As for the whole college degree is necessary, there are plenty of opportunities elsewhere - the trades are deeply lacking, and as such can pay extremely well. 6 figures is not beyond the realm of possibility, and while it's not an office job, it's still a respectable job, just one where one might get their hands actually dirty.
The amazing thing is how long that BS has been going on. Personal anecdote here:
In the early 70's I took both Academic and Electronics, which was considered Vocational/Technical. It wasn't easy, because the calendar was filled with no spare time. No lunch, no study halls, nothing but classes.
I even got called into the principle's office - "You're a smart boy Ol - why would you want to take such a strange set of courses?"
I explained - it was good to have more options.
"But people will think you are stupid!"
I never regretted my dual major for a moment. It has served me very well, both in career and financially.
Now another trade that people might look into Machinist. By the time you become a master machinist, you are doing pretty darn well.
It is rather an odd thing, because men are always called out for all of us being shallow. But looking at the bucket lists that so many women have, it becomes obvious real quickly that they will have to lower their standards, or get pets to keep them company.
Really, there is only one qualification for men on most of these sites: the size of your bank account.
Well..... yeah.
Women are very likely to have had evolutionary pressure to seek out the fittest mate. It isn't unreasonable for a female to seek out security. Now generally speaking.
Today, one of the best markers for security is a male that has wealth. This brings up some conflicts though.
At one time, the best mate for a female was likely the strongest and boldest male she could find. Tallness was related to strength and health.
Today however, the qualities that made for a desireable male are often quite different. The stable and mild mannered male, while usually making wealth that is seen as stability, often is not sexually desirable to many women. And the bold guy - perhaps the musician or barkeep at the club, arouses many, but isn't much of a catch. And there aren't nearly enough wealthy alpha males to go around.
So women are in an evolutionary bind. The men they want to mate with are not the men who can support them in a secure lifestyle. So very often they compromise. They mate with the bad boy, and have the stable guy raise the bad boy's children.
Sounds crazy, but DNA tests argue otherwise. Except in France, where a man can be incarcerated for DNA testing his children. https://www.ibdna.com/paternit... You have to have a Judge order a test, ant they are not likely to do that.
I'll wager that not only won't they check women's weight, they will eventually demand proof of the men's penis length.
Well, they could kill two birds with one stone here - I mean, the guys are going to be standing next to buildings and getting photographed already so...
Beyond just being on the Internet, Tinder is a hookup site. There have always been more men available for hookups than women, for rational biological reasons. Hooking up is higher-risk for women, and if women want a family, they need to start earlier. There's less time for curiosity. Unfair, but true.
Oh gawd - the let's wait until the fertility window is closing aspect of so many. There are gioong to be a lot of sad ladies about.
Tinder? It's a great way to get free food and drinks though.
Makes no difference except at each extreme end of the spectrum. Don't be so insecure. Size or girth does not create instant orgasms.
Can't imagine why you would think I'm insecure. I don't care at all whet some woman on Tinder thinks of my package. I only point out different expectations and rules.
If they demand men's height, they might demand anything.
If you find the idea of majoring in philosophy ridiculous, then I submit that you have no idea what a university--or a university education--is for. Apparently you think it's a fancy trade school. That attitude is every bit as destructive to real education as credentialism is.
Unless you are independently wealthy, or happy to take a job that involves dishing out French Fries at the Drive through window, Your choices are pretty limited. Your best hope is to become the next professor of philosophy after hitting a couple different Universities and coming back with your Doctorate.
The instillation of knowledge is a worthy goal. The world needs philosophers. Just not very many.
Ah yes - you handed me the old Fuck Jobs - we're here to expand minds! Well, that's nice and all. But for some reason Universities have interns who want to supplement some practicality into the almost useless stuff you pour into their heads.
Your version of a University would have 200 students, no scholarships, and everyone having wealthy parents to support them forever.
And your dispargement of trades to the point of including the disciplines that people can make a living out of is duly noted.
Yet you *chose* to go off on this stupid strawman rant!
Exactly. whoever it was didn't appear to have a problem with women demanding men's heights, and even stooped so low as to make weird veiled accusations of impotence.
Those badonkadonk ballon tit overstyled plastic women can't even kiss my ass. Totally unattractive. Styling is only another word for LYING!
But I'm German. And I can see tits just by going to the next park/lake/beach in the summer. So maybe it's a Murican thing.
I know a lot of people, and almost none of them like the bolted on Grapefruit half look - fake boobs women. Only a couple I know like that. And you can spot silicone a mile away. Just some insecure women who thiink they know what men like. And lest we grow too complacent, some are enlarging their buttocks now. Time will not be kind to these ladies.
Every study on the subject of female attractiveness has demonstrated that the vast and overwhelming majority of men care mostly about the proportions of a woman's figure. You guys are the first two statistical anomalies I have ever come accords that obsess over a woman's weight.
Oh really? I don't care if a woman is "curvy", but Weight is often interchangeable with obese. And no sir, I do not find fat chicks attractive at all. Show me where the overwhelming majority of men prefer fat chicks.
Is there like a certain fixed amount of female body mass where you experience abrupt erectile failure or is it more of a gradient where you slowly move into the realm of impotence as a function of the mass of the female?
Is there like a certain levelof disruption of your narrative that makes you resort to silly male shaming like accusations of impotence?
With that - good day, and Jezabel called - they like the way you think.
Definitely -- they need a weight verification tool for women as well. Maybe some combination of advanced image analysis utilizing gravitational lensing and/or bathroom scale selfies.
Calling out the double standard is hilarious as well.
height? women can be picky/shitty about this one -- men can't do anything but chant "grow, grow, grow" and hope c'thulu hears their prayer
weight? men asking women their weight is a bit taboo for some reason, despite it being 100% under their control.
It is rather an odd thing, because men are always called out for all of us being shallow. But looking at the bucket lists that so many women have, it becomes obvious real quickly that they will have to lower their standards, or get pets to keep them company.
. I'd love to see their math on how the know the debris will drop out in 45 days. Ohh wait they "expect" it to drop out. These must be smart people that know the pats of all the debris.
Moving from a low orbit to a higher orbit typically requires two delta-Vs. The first one changes your circular low orbit into an ellipse whose perigee (lowest altitude of the orbit) is the same as the original orbit, but whose apogee (highest altitude in the orbit) is at a higher orbit. The second delta-V is done at apogee and converts the elliptical orbit back into a circle, now at the higher orbit.
Elliptical or not, there might be another satellite that ends up intercepting the debris.
I was watching a woman reporter interviewing James Comey, who is pretty tall. She was a pretty liberal person, and would normally be pretty antagonistic toward some damage he might have done. But she was entranced - even giddy around him.
Indeed. Gender studies seems to teach nothing of use and seems to be a "modern" feminist replacement for the traditional "home economics" studies were the primary purpose was to allow women to find a husband with academic education.
Definitely one of the opinion majors. I watched a video in which a woman in one of these classes launced into a scathing dismissal of critical thinking and science as one of the tools of the white male patriarchy, and was a racist and sexist concept that must be eliminated. She spent the time not spouting her nonsense looking at her smartphone. When some of the people started laughing at the kook, the instructor threatend to kick them out.
They seem to have replaced that with the opposite in the "modern" variant, making it even less useful as the traditional one.
Home economics is so desperately needed again, as well as civics classes. It doesn't have to be gender specific, but people should not graduate High school with no idea of how to live and work with money, or to understand how government "works".
Tinder is pretty garbage for men. You're far better off using traditional dating methods than dealing with that hyper competitive world of ultra ridiculous expectations in men where women receive hundreds of responses a day. No thanks, unless you're looking exclusively for hookups, then it's somewhat ok.
Seriously, mere rejection isn't enough, apparently there is a need to actively abuse men.
One of the problems with Tinder is that if a woman is looking for an intelligent male, mere use of Tinder disqualifies him.
Looks like the men have been violating the number one qualification for women on Tinder.
Honesty is the best policy? How about you clean up the ladies bios and pictures? Oh - the picture looks like you weigh 100 pounds less? Must be the camera angle.
Philosophy graduates often earn way more than engineers, and unlike engineers, have no ceiling for their salaries.
only dumbshit classless culture-less friendless engineers think philosophy is ridiculous, and ironically philosophy reserves the notion of absurdity just for them.
A yes, that would be "those" programmers. I have cleaned up a few of the messes they routinely make because of lack of insight and talent.
Amazing how that coward seems to think that someone who spends 100K on a gender studies degree simply "becomes a programmer". When the very things that cause a person to select that major are more likely to interfere with the intellectual ability to think like a programmer than augment it.
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As for the whole college degree is necessary, there are plenty of opportunities elsewhere - the trades are deeply lacking, and as such can pay extremely well. 6 figures is not beyond the realm of possibility, and while it's not an office job, it's still a respectable job, just one where one might get their hands actually dirty.
The amazing thing is how long that BS has been going on. Personal anecdote here:
In the early 70's I took both Academic and Electronics, which was considered Vocational/Technical. It wasn't easy, because the calendar was filled with no spare time. No lunch, no study halls, nothing but classes.
I even got called into the principle's office - "You're a smart boy Ol - why would you want to take such a strange set of courses?"
I explained - it was good to have more options.
"But people will think you are stupid!"
I never regretted my dual major for a moment. It has served me very well, both in career and financially.
Now another trade that people might look into Machinist. By the time you become a master machinist, you are doing pretty darn well.
My mistake, Ol. I shouldn't have dismissed your criticism. That hasn't been my experience working in higher education.
No problem - yup, people do have a range of experiences.
That should probably be *which* smartass. But it might not even be a smartass at all.
In any case, I haven't figured it out yet.
I dunno - which of us is the bigger smartass? Guys are so competitive yaknow.
It is rather an odd thing, because men are always called out for all of us being shallow. But looking at the bucket lists that so many women have, it becomes obvious real quickly that they will have to lower their standards, or get pets to keep them company.
Women both live longer
Men die before their wives beacuse they want to.
Really, there is only one qualification for men on most of these sites: the size of your bank account.
Well..... yeah.
Women are very likely to have had evolutionary pressure to seek out the fittest mate. It isn't unreasonable for a female to seek out security. Now generally speaking.
Today, one of the best markers for security is a male that has wealth. This brings up some conflicts though.
At one time, the best mate for a female was likely the strongest and boldest male she could find. Tallness was related to strength and health.
Today however, the qualities that made for a desireable male are often quite different. The stable and mild mannered male, while usually making wealth that is seen as stability, often is not sexually desirable to many women. And the bold guy - perhaps the musician or barkeep at the club, arouses many, but isn't much of a catch. And there aren't nearly enough wealthy alpha males to go around.
So women are in an evolutionary bind. The men they want to mate with are not the men who can support them in a secure lifestyle. So very often they compromise. They mate with the bad boy, and have the stable guy raise the bad boy's children.
Sounds crazy, but DNA tests argue otherwise. Except in France, where a man can be incarcerated for DNA testing his children. https://www.ibdna.com/paternit... You have to have a Judge order a test, ant they are not likely to do that.
Do you really want to see it all shriveled up?
Actually, I don't want to see it at all.
I'll wager that not only won't they check women's weight, they will eventually demand proof of the men's penis length.
Well, they could kill two birds with one stone here - I mean, the guys are going to be standing next to buildings and getting photographed already so...
This is going to take two rulers now.
Beyond just being on the Internet, Tinder is a hookup site. There have always been more men available for hookups than women, for rational biological reasons. Hooking up is higher-risk for women, and if women want a family, they need to start earlier. There's less time for curiosity. Unfair, but true.
Oh gawd - the let's wait until the fertility window is closing aspect of so many. There are gioong to be a lot of sad ladies about. Tinder? It's a great way to get free food and drinks though.
Makes no difference except at each extreme end of the spectrum. Don't be so insecure. Size or girth does not create instant orgasms.
Can't imagine why you would think I'm insecure. I don't care at all whet some woman on Tinder thinks of my package. I only point out different expectations and rules.
If they demand men's height, they might demand anything.
If you find the idea of majoring in philosophy ridiculous, then I submit that you have no idea what a university--or a university education--is for. Apparently you think it's a fancy trade school. That attitude is every bit as destructive to real education as credentialism is.
Unless you are independently wealthy, or happy to take a job that involves dishing out French Fries at the Drive through window, Your choices are pretty limited. Your best hope is to become the next professor of philosophy after hitting a couple different Universities and coming back with your Doctorate.
The instillation of knowledge is a worthy goal. The world needs philosophers. Just not very many.
Ah yes - you handed me the old Fuck Jobs - we're here to expand minds! Well, that's nice and all. But for some reason Universities have interns who want to supplement some practicality into the almost useless stuff you pour into their heads.
Your version of a University would have 200 students, no scholarships, and everyone having wealthy parents to support them forever.
And your dispargement of trades to the point of including the disciplines that people can make a living out of is duly noted.
And aren't attracted by "thinspiration"
Yet you *chose* to go off on this stupid strawman rant!
Exactly. whoever it was didn't appear to have a problem with women demanding men's heights, and even stooped so low as to make weird veiled accusations of impotence.
Those badonkadonk ballon tit overstyled plastic women can't even kiss my ass. Totally unattractive. Styling is only another word for LYING!
But I'm German. And I can see tits just by going to the next park/lake/beach in the summer. So maybe it's a Murican thing.
I know a lot of people, and almost none of them like the bolted on Grapefruit half look - fake boobs women. Only a couple I know like that. And you can spot silicone a mile away. Just some insecure women who thiink they know what men like. And lest we grow too complacent, some are enlarging their buttocks now. Time will not be kind to these ladies.
Every study on the subject of female attractiveness has demonstrated that the vast and overwhelming majority of men care mostly about the proportions of a woman's figure. You guys are the first two statistical anomalies I have ever come accords that obsess over a woman's weight.
Oh really? I don't care if a woman is "curvy", but Weight is often interchangeable with obese. And no sir, I do not find fat chicks attractive at all. Show me where the overwhelming majority of men prefer fat chicks.
Is there like a certain fixed amount of female body mass where you experience abrupt erectile failure or is it more of a gradient where you slowly move into the realm of impotence as a function of the mass of the female?
Is there like a certain levelof disruption of your narrative that makes you resort to silly male shaming like accusations of impotence?
With that - good day, and Jezabel called - they like the way you think.
Definitely -- they need a weight verification tool for women as well. Maybe some combination of advanced image analysis utilizing gravitational lensing and/or bathroom scale selfies.
Calling out the double standard is hilarious as well. height? women can be picky/shitty about this one -- men can't do anything but chant "grow, grow, grow" and hope c'thulu hears their prayer weight? men asking women their weight is a bit taboo for some reason, despite it being 100% under their control.
It is rather an odd thing, because men are always called out for all of us being shallow. But looking at the bucket lists that so many women have, it becomes obvious real quickly that they will have to lower their standards, or get pets to keep them company.
Moving from a low orbit to a higher orbit typically requires two delta-Vs. The first one changes your circular low orbit into an ellipse whose perigee (lowest altitude of the orbit) is the same as the original orbit, but whose apogee (highest altitude in the orbit) is at a higher orbit. The second delta-V is done at apogee and converts the elliptical orbit back into a circle, now at the higher orbit.
Elliptical or not, there might be another satellite that ends up intercepting the debris.
Anyway, it is pretty sad that something so shallow as height will drive people's dating decisions.
Women in general prefer taller men, and the taller the better. https://www.lovepanky.com/men/... And for an actual study, Rice University: http://news.rice.edu/2014/02/1...
I was watching a woman reporter interviewing James Comey, who is pretty tall. She was a pretty liberal person, and would normally be pretty antagonistic toward some damage he might have done. But she was entranced - even giddy around him.
It's just a shitty marketing campaign..
We're into understatement today! 8^)
If they check women weight they'll have to check men length...
I'll wager that not only won't they check women's weight, they will eventually demand proof of the men's penis length. Maybe circumfrence as well.
Indeed. Gender studies seems to teach nothing of use and seems to be a "modern" feminist replacement for the traditional "home economics" studies were the primary purpose was to allow women to find a husband with academic education.
Definitely one of the opinion majors. I watched a video in which a woman in one of these classes launced into a scathing dismissal of critical thinking and science as one of the tools of the white male patriarchy, and was a racist and sexist concept that must be eliminated. She spent the time not spouting her nonsense looking at her smartphone. When some of the people started laughing at the kook, the instructor threatend to kick them out.
They seem to have replaced that with the opposite in the "modern" variant, making it even less useful as the traditional one.
Home economics is so desperately needed again, as well as civics classes. It doesn't have to be gender specific, but people should not graduate High school with no idea of how to live and work with money, or to understand how government "works".
Tinder is pretty garbage for men. You're far better off using traditional dating methods than dealing with that hyper competitive world of ultra ridiculous expectations in men where women receive hundreds of responses a day. No thanks, unless you're looking exclusively for hookups, then it's somewhat ok.
https://www.mrctv.org/blog/tin...
Seriously, mere rejection isn't enough, apparently there is a need to actively abuse men. One of the problems with Tinder is that if a woman is looking for an intelligent male, mere use of Tinder disqualifies him.
Honesty is the best policy? How about you clean up the ladies bios and pictures? Oh - the picture looks like you weigh 100 pounds less? Must be the camera angle.
I think you should talk to some people who have actually spent time at university.
Only at University (employed status) for 35 years, and been called back because they want my skillset. Believe or not, it is your choice.
You usually aren't so insulting. A bad day?
If you wish to have an actual discussion on how I have come to an opinion that you think is a lie or just wrong, let me know. Elsewise, good day sir.
I think you should talk to some people who have actually spent time at university.
Only at University (employed status) for 35 years, and been called back because they want my skillset. Believe or not, it is your choice.
You usually aren't so insulting. A bad day?
Philosophy graduates often earn way more than engineers, and unlike engineers, have no ceiling for their salaries.
only dumbshit classless culture-less friendless engineers think philosophy is ridiculous, and ironically philosophy reserves the notion of absurdity just for them.
Coo story bro!
A yes, that would be "those" programmers. I have cleaned up a few of the messes they routinely make because of lack of insight and talent.
Amazing how that coward seems to think that someone who spends 100K on a gender studies degree simply "becomes a programmer". When the very things that cause a person to select that major are more likely to interfere with the intellectual ability to think like a programmer than augment it.
Take your anger issues elsewhere my dear coward.