I have mixed feelings (and I live in Germany) about this. On the one hand, I agree that work time is work time and what I do with company property is the company's business. I can do my personal stuff at home.
But I also agree that what I do in my personal time (i.e. facebook) is my business and that has no connection to my work life. People getting fired for what they have on FB isn't right.
If I were Google I'd start exploring a drop in replacement for everything Oracle made
Now that's the best idea I've heard yet. Google's market power and money.... if they even mention the idea of creating an Oracle compatible DB or get behind EnterpriseDB with the same goal, it would have a serious impact on Oracles stock price. What a great idea!
I'm sorry, but I'm afraid you are SEVERELY out of date.
I spoke recently to a local computer shop about upgrading my Vista laptop to Win7. They offer that service and what they told me (and they do this a lot so I guess they would know) is that they need the better part of the morning to get Win 7 up and running with the correct drivers for the hardware and so on. This was one reason I decided it would be easier and cheaper to just get a new laptop than to upgrade the old one.
As far as relying on the CLI, all of my admin functions on Ubuntu 10.04 I've done with a GUI. There may still be things that are done with the CLI, but you generally don't need it. But, that argument is like saying a user should never have to deal with the Registry on windows. It's still required especially when something goes wrong. Not exactly something your typical grandfather is going to be good at. If you are still doing everything via the CLI you are not up-to-date.
Make it easy for guys like me to sell and support your product and we will.
It's not actually my product and I don't associate myself with Linux or with Windows. I just use what works. I have 60 linux boxes I manage at work (remotely). You set them up and they run until there is a hardware failure or a network issue (like someone unplugs the switch). My job is to write software and I spend 95% of my time doing that. The linux boxes just don't bother us.
We have about 15 Windows boxes and a full time windows administrator for those 15 boxes. He's constantly running around updating anti-virus, calling MS with issues and so on. Windows is a real headache when it comes to administration. And I've heard similar stories (regarding the high cost of administering windows machines) from others as well.
And Linux will STILL have lower than the margin for error desktop numbers.
Since linux is downloaded and copied, the installed base is probably higher. But, it won't reach Windows market-share or probably Mac market share anytime soon for a lot of reasons. True, it's not as polished, but basically it's a chicken-and-egg problem.
updates breaking hardware
I've never seen that happen. Not at home and not on the 60 linux boxes we have at work.
Sorry to hear that. My ubuntu installed out of the box with WUBI. Though, I know that's not always the case, if you have esoteric hardware. But if you have pretty standard hardware, it works pretty well.
My laptop, which had Win 7 already installed, required a whole lot more than just three questions to "personalize" the installation. I had to reboot it more than three times. Sheesh. That statement alone shows you are an unfortunate windows fanboy who must justify his investment.
I think Windows 7 has its pluses and minuses and I do use it along with Ubuntu but, for those of us who use and know both, your post is simply way off-base.
My laptop has a dual-boot. My wifi sometimes doesn't work under Windows 7 but it always works on Ubuntu. Go figure.
There are some things I like better about Win 7 than Ubuntu, but, support for hardware is easier with Ubuntu. All I had to do to install my Brother HL-5050 printer was to plug it in. Shortly after plugging it in, a message comes that my printer "Brother HL-5050" is installed and ready to use.
These are people who buy a PC with Windows installed and assume that Windows installation is where you enter your PC name and login name.
A windows fanboy friend of mine used to deride Linux. Until his PC stopped working and he reloaded Windows (XP at the time). The PC couldn't even recognize his network card. So he called me up so I could download the driver for his network card, which I did on my Ubuntu box.
He was also quite impressed with Linux's virtual desktops, though he had a hard time admitting it after failing to find a Windows equivalent. But, being a Windows fanboy, they will never concede that linux is better at anything, so he promptly showed that Windows can do that just as well, all you need it a dual-port video card and two monitors!
You know, I probably shouldn't feed the coward, but what the fuck, I'm bored. Show me ANY Linux where I can take a mix of totally random hardware thrown together and hand my 67 year old clueless dad the disc and have him install it PERFECTLY, without a SINGLE fuckup or hardware issue, and then we'll talk.
Ok, I'll bite...
Try taking a Windows CD and doing that with any random set of hardware. You will literally spend hours downloading drivers. What I can say is that my hardware PC, Network card, Video Card, Printer installed out of the box in 10 minutes with Ubuntu. I couldn't even access the network with Windows XP (I haven't tried it with Vista or Win 7 which are probably better). In any case, my Windows 7 notebook did not support my printer out of the box (had to download the driver).
Window itself has very poor device support. Since it is so widespread, however, most hardware vendors have drivers for it, which is not always the case with Linux.
I ran the Live-CD on my laptop with only Wifi. I didn't install it that way. I used Wubi so I couldn't say the it would install, but it supported my Wifi out of the box on the Live-CD so the driver is definitely there.
The lawyers here are Boies, Schiller & Flexner - the same ones that handled the SCO case's IP side. That went well for them. *fall into fits of derisive laughter*.
Actually, I think the whole purpose of that battle was to create FUD and on that front they had some success. That's why they keep appealing it and dragging it out. They want to create an environment where people in high places making decisions involving a lot of money are at least going to wonder about the legal implications.
Interesting information. I don't trust MS and I don't trust MS but it appears from that that for micro applications the.net framework is just as "free" or more "free" than the java me framework.
the patents themselves mean pretty much nothing, (hello? Bilski scotus ruling?)and also because Java is licensed under the GPL. So unless google is breaking GPL (very unlikely), it'll be hard to get a clear picture of what is going on at all until this case moves forward.
The GPL doesn't cover all of Java (there are parts that proprietary) which is why the license grant is necessary and, apparently, there is an exception to the license grant on java ME.
Ellison is cerifiably nuts. Gates' little brother cannot stand being out of the news. He better be careful or this could be the end of Java, already carrying a "get-off-my-lawn" level of obsolescence.
My thoughts exactly. We are heavily invested in Java and Ellison is making me very nervous. Basically he's making everyone think twice about going with the Java runtime on their platform. Wonder how long it will be before Google comes out with a "Go" like language or makes "Go" applicable for mobile platforms.
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What I find interesting is that even having cartoons of child porn is illegal. Not sure I understand why that is.
I agree. Making this a criminal act seems wrong to me. It might be cause for dismissal from his work but he didn't cause or try to cause any damage.
Where it's a little grey is that he is essence didn't give up control of the passwords and therefor the devices. Not sure about what to do there. Perhaps a fine, if that really did cause the city to have extra expenses, but I'm not sure about that claim either.
They are talking about router passwords and the like which he administered. My point was that the direction not to give your password to your supervisor doesn't apply to router passwords and admin passwords to databases, etc.
For example, the city's court filings claim that police found an ID badge and access card of one of Childs' colleagues in his house, and that Childs had lists of usernames and passwords of other city employees, including his direct supervisor, Herb Tong. Childs' having these materials is difficult to justify, if true.
Almost every modern system stores passwords encrypted. Being system administrator wouldn't give you access to those passwords in unencrypted form. That seems odd.
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I have mixed feelings (and I live in Germany) about this. On the one hand, I agree that work time is work time and what I do with company property is the company's business. I can do my personal stuff at home.
But I also agree that what I do in my personal time (i.e. facebook) is my business and that has no connection to my work life. People getting fired for what they have on FB isn't right.
However, using another language will present all kinds of issues - which language do they use?
"Go" perhaps?
If I were Google I'd start exploring a drop in replacement for everything Oracle made
Now that's the best idea I've heard yet. Google's market power and money .... if they even mention the idea of creating an Oracle compatible DB or get behind EnterpriseDB with the same goal, it would have a serious impact on Oracles stock price. What a great idea!
This kind of makes we want to cover my laptop lens with tape, just in case.
Now that's funny. Have you copyrighted that?
I'm sorry, but I'm afraid you are SEVERELY out of date.
I spoke recently to a local computer shop about upgrading my Vista laptop to Win7. They offer that service and what they told me (and they do this a lot so I guess they would know) is that they need the better part of the morning to get Win 7 up and running with the correct drivers for the hardware and so on. This was one reason I decided it would be easier and cheaper to just get a new laptop than to upgrade the old one.
As far as relying on the CLI, all of my admin functions on Ubuntu 10.04 I've done with a GUI. There may still be things that are done with the CLI, but you generally don't need it. But, that argument is like saying a user should never have to deal with the Registry on windows. It's still required especially when something goes wrong. Not exactly something your typical grandfather is going to be good at. If you are still doing everything via the CLI you are not up-to-date.
Make it easy for guys like me to sell and support your product and we will.
It's not actually my product and I don't associate myself with Linux or with Windows. I just use what works. I have 60 linux boxes I manage at work (remotely). You set them up and they run until there is a hardware failure or a network issue (like someone unplugs the switch). My job is to write software and I spend 95% of my time doing that. The linux boxes just don't bother us.
We have about 15 Windows boxes and a full time windows administrator for those 15 boxes. He's constantly running around updating anti-virus, calling MS with issues and so on. Windows is a real headache when it comes to administration. And I've heard similar stories (regarding the high cost of administering windows machines) from others as well.
And Linux will STILL have lower than the margin for error desktop numbers.
Since linux is downloaded and copied, the installed base is probably higher. But, it won't reach Windows market-share or probably Mac market share anytime soon for a lot of reasons. True, it's not as polished, but basically it's a chicken-and-egg problem.
updates breaking hardware
I've never seen that happen. Not at home and not on the 60 linux boxes we have at work.
Sorry to hear that. My ubuntu installed out of the box with WUBI. Though, I know that's not always the case, if you have esoteric hardware. But if you have pretty standard hardware, it works pretty well.
He had to answer a grand total of THREE questions
What planet are you living on?
My laptop, which had Win 7 already installed, required a whole lot more than just three questions to "personalize" the installation. I had to reboot it more than three times. Sheesh. That statement alone shows you are an unfortunate windows fanboy who must justify his investment.
I think Windows 7 has its pluses and minuses and I do use it along with Ubuntu but, for those of us who use and know both, your post is simply way off-base.
My laptop has a dual-boot. My wifi sometimes doesn't work under Windows 7 but it always works on Ubuntu. Go figure.
There are some things I like better about Win 7 than Ubuntu, but, support for hardware is easier with Ubuntu. All I had to do to install my Brother HL-5050 printer was to plug it in. Shortly after plugging it in, a message comes that my printer "Brother HL-5050" is installed and ready to use.
These are people who buy a PC with Windows installed and assume that Windows installation is where you enter your PC name and login name.
A windows fanboy friend of mine used to deride Linux. Until his PC stopped working and he reloaded Windows (XP at the time). The PC couldn't even recognize his network card. So he called me up so I could download the driver for his network card, which I did on my Ubuntu box.
He was also quite impressed with Linux's virtual desktops, though he had a hard time admitting it after failing to find a Windows equivalent. But, being a Windows fanboy, they will never concede that linux is better at anything, so he promptly showed that Windows can do that just as well, all you need it a dual-port video card and two monitors!
You know, I probably shouldn't feed the coward, but what the fuck, I'm bored. Show me ANY Linux where I can take a mix of totally random hardware thrown together and hand my 67 year old clueless dad the disc and have him install it PERFECTLY, without a SINGLE fuckup or hardware issue, and then we'll talk.
Ok, I'll bite ...
Try taking a Windows CD and doing that with any random set of hardware. You will literally spend hours downloading drivers. What I can say is that my hardware PC, Network card, Video Card, Printer installed out of the box in 10 minutes with Ubuntu. I couldn't even access the network with Windows XP (I haven't tried it with Vista or Win 7 which are probably better). In any case, my Windows 7 notebook did not support my printer out of the box (had to download the driver).
Window itself has very poor device support. Since it is so widespread, however, most hardware vendors have drivers for it, which is not always the case with Linux.
I ran the Live-CD on my laptop with only Wifi. I didn't install it that way. I used Wubi so I couldn't say the it would install, but it supported my Wifi out of the box on the Live-CD so the driver is definitely there.
The lawyers here are Boies, Schiller & Flexner - the same ones that handled the SCO case's IP side. That went well for them. *fall into fits of derisive laughter*.
Actually, I think the whole purpose of that battle was to create FUD and on that front they had some success. That's why they keep appealing it and dragging it out. They want to create an environment where people in high places making decisions involving a lot of money are at least going to wonder about the legal implications.
Eh ... sorry I meant "I don't trust MS and I don't trust Oracle".
Interesting information. I don't trust MS and I don't trust MS but it appears from that that for micro applications the .net framework is just as "free" or more "free" than the java me framework.
the patents themselves mean pretty much nothing, (hello? Bilski scotus ruling?)and also because Java is licensed under the GPL. So unless google is breaking GPL (very unlikely), it'll be hard to get a clear picture of what is going on at all until this case moves forward.
The GPL doesn't cover all of Java (there are parts that proprietary) which is why the license grant is necessary and, apparently, there is an exception to the license grant on java ME.
Ellison is cerifiably nuts. Gates' little brother cannot stand being out of the news. He better be careful or this could be the end of Java, already carrying a "get-off-my-lawn" level of obsolescence.
My thoughts exactly. We are heavily invested in Java and Ellison is making me very nervous. Basically he's making everyone think twice about going with the Java runtime on their platform. Wonder how long it will be before Google comes out with a "Go" like language or makes "Go" applicable for mobile platforms.
What I find interesting is that even having cartoons of child porn is illegal. Not sure I understand why that is.
Thanks, didn't know that.
We're talking NY here. Is anyone surprised?
I agree. Making this a criminal act seems wrong to me. It might be cause for dismissal from his work but he didn't cause or try to cause any damage.
Where it's a little grey is that he is essence didn't give up control of the passwords and therefor the devices. Not sure about what to do there. Perhaps a fine, if that really did cause the city to have extra expenses, but I'm not sure about that claim either.
They are talking about router passwords and the like which he administered. My point was that the direction not to give your password to your supervisor doesn't apply to router passwords and admin passwords to databases, etc.
IMO it's not a valid argument.
I use icetea which is an apache project.
Good point.
For example, the city's court filings claim that police found an ID badge and access card of one of Childs' colleagues in his house, and that Childs had lists of usernames and passwords of other city employees, including his direct supervisor, Herb Tong. Childs' having these materials is difficult to justify, if true.
Almost every modern system stores passwords encrypted. Being system administrator wouldn't give you access to those passwords in unencrypted form. That seems odd.