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Blockbuster Trying To Woo Disgruntled Netflix Customers

jfruhlinger writes "'Netflix Customers, Say Hello to Blockbuster' is the subject line of an email making the rounds trying to convince customers to switch services in the wake of Netflix's contentious price hike. The bankrupt video store chain is now owned by DirectTV and has its own streaming service. How did Blockbuster even get these email addresses? Are its services really going to be cheaper and/or better than Netflix's in the long run? Is 'You'll hate us less than Netflix' really a viable business model?" Relatedly, reader assertation asks, "Can anyone suggest a streaming movie service that has a selection comparable to Netflix and will run on a computer using GNU/Linux?"

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  1. Linux support by m2vq · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can anyone suggest a streaming movie service that has a selection comparable to Netfix and will run on a computer using GNU/Linux?

    No. There isn't one because Linux market share on desktop is so incredibly small that no one wants to put up with the cost of supporting those few users. Most normal people run either Windows, set-top box or some console like PS3. Even if someone were to make such service they would immediately get huge backslash for the need of DRM (demanded by copyright owners). Yes, continue to use Linux, I do too. But if you are not willing to come even a little bit forward (like, accepting DRM or closed binaries) don't cry about it when companies don't want to support it.

    1. Re:Linux support by Skarecrow77 · · Score: 0

      I second the ps3. Technically it can still run linux! yes yes, I know, lame joke.

      In all seriousness though, couldn't you VMware/virtualbox windows for that purpose?
      In fact, don't you already? I did... until I switched back to windows when win7 came out and was actually worth a damn as an OS.

    2. Re:Linux support by leoplan2 · · Score: 1

      Not comparable, but Amazon Instant Video should work well under GNU/Linux

    3. Re:Linux support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Amazon Prime Instant is 100% compatible with Linux.

    4. Re:Linux support by fat_mike · · Score: 1

      I have a MythTV setup in my basement (I'm still wondering when I'm going actually sit down and watch 50+ hours of A-Team and Greatest American Hero) and I totally agree with you.

      Get one of these, they have one for less than $50 bucks.

      Use the money you saved on buying a new Windows computer and send it to the Mono project.

      And both our points proven in 3...2...1...

    5. Re:Linux support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No. There isn't one because Linux market share on desktop is so incredibly small that no one wants to put up with the cost of supporting those few users... (snip)...companies don't want to support it.

      You mean like Hulu and Amazon video ?

    6. Re:Linux support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, yeah... Guy, please, don't talk BS. Guitar Pro, id Software, OilRush, and pretty much everything that makes money off Linux (RedHat/SLES notwithstanding) is closed source. Not really that many people are ideologic in terms of userland software, even in Linux.

    7. Re:Linux support by Riceballsan · · Score: 2

      Just because the market share isn't there does not force explicit denial of linux the way netflix does. Hulu, amazon etc... work just fine in linux. Netflix is actually sitting on a linux compatible player (whatever roku box uses). While it isn't purely netflix's fault (it's the content providers that have huge fears that if the player runs on an open system, someone might reverse engineer it to download them). IMO it is a flat out silly fear, not that it isn't possible to do, but odds are it is just as easy to do on a windows box, just simply not worth the work (the pirate community has most likely already ripped both the blu ray and the DVD and posted it to every filesharing medium in the month lag before it can be streamed, what motivation would they have to rip the stream after that).

    8. Re:Linux support by yincrash · · Score: 1

      Yup, works fine on machines running flash. Supposedly Netflix is making a player for ChromeOS machines though.

    9. Re:Linux support by PickyH3D · · Score: 1

      Not even remotely comparable. I have Amazon Prime, and since I get access to their instant video catalog, I decided to give it a shot. I literally cannot remember a single video that I actually wanted to watch.

      The current collection is terrible. I am sure that there are some niches filled there, but they have few, if any licenses to stream online for now.

    10. Re:Linux support by Xtravar · · Score: 1

      I have not found VMWare video/sound to be up to par in the past, but it's great for VPN to work, remote desktop, and whatnot.

      Personally, I just have a machine for each purpose. Windows HTPC, Linux general workstation, Windows DAW, Linux file server...

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    11. Re:Linux support by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      They have all of Dr. Who up to the next to last season. They made a huge deal with one of the big networks last week and if you really can't find a single video to watch you are one picking bastard.

    12. Re:Linux support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      ... While it isn't purely netflix's fault ...

      Netflix CEO sits on Microsoft board. The reason for Linux mishap is purely political.

      Amazon Prime works fine on Linux. I hope that Blockbuster will not shun our business either.

    13. Re:Linux support by airfoobar · · Score: 1

      I believe they've already announced they are working on HTML5 support.

    14. Re:Linux support by m2vq · · Score: 1

      That's not the point really. Entertainment is something that is hard to fulfill with the next best thing. Yeah yeah, people could probably get the same entertainment value from some other movie, game or music. But in the real world, when one wants to see thing x, he or she wants to see exactly that and not pick something else.

    15. Re:Linux support by kelemvor4 · · Score: 1

      Can anyone suggest a streaming movie service that has a selection comparable to Netfix and will run on a computer using GNU/Linux?

      No. There isn't one because Linux market share on desktop is so incredibly small that no one wants to put up with the cost of supporting those few users. Most normal people run either Windows, set-top box or some console like PS3. Even if someone were to make such service they would immediately get huge backslash for the need of DRM (demanded by copyright owners). Yes, continue to use Linux, I do too. But if you are not willing to come even a little bit forward (like, accepting DRM or closed binaries) don't cry about it when companies don't want to support it.

      Funny, the fanboys modded you down for speaking honestly about the situation. Free speech as long as you say what I want to hear, I guess.

    16. Re:Linux support by Medievalist · · Score: 2

      ..if you are not willing to come even a little bit forward (like, accepting DRM or closed binaries) don't cry about it when companies don't want to support it.

      Alternative formulation: "if you are not willing to be dragged even a little bit backward (like, giving up on free open source software) don't cry about it when companies that hate and fear FOSS don't want to support you."

      I like the alternate form better.

    17. Re:Linux support by FxChiP · · Score: 1

      But if you are not willing to come even a little bit forward (like, accepting DRM or closed binaries) don't cry about it when companies don't want to support it.

      The problem is that DRM is actually totally backwards, and closed binaries will eventually wind up breaking with lack of vendor support or in really subtle ways as the libraries they depend on change, grow, update and improve -- although if the vendor is sufficiently proactive in their development process, the latter need not be true. However, DRM simply doesn't do what it's intended to do, and instead winds up harming the consumer by imposing largely artificial restrictions on them that pirates -- you know, the ones that DRM is supposed to prevent in the first place -- just don't have. What you wind up with, then, is media that is substantially and fundamentally broken in silly and stupid ways to harm the consumer who paid good money to enjoy their content legally vs. the criminal who paid absolutely nothing to enjoy the same content as they wish in any form they want it!

    18. Re:Linux support by JWW · · Score: 1

      It baffles me however why DRM even matters for Netflix.

      It is easier for me to watch something on Netflix than it is for me to download it illegally and watch it. Therefore, why would I download anything illegally that is available on Netflix.

      Hell, I've watched things on Netflix that I own on DVD because I'm too lazy to find the disk and put it in the player.

      If Netflix had no DRM, I know for a fact that it would run on Linux, as I've gotten sliverlight to run on Linux.

      DRM for Netflix is completely unnecessary. Why would I want to waste disk storage for something I could stream whenever I want?

    19. Re:Linux support by m2vq · · Score: 1

      It doesn't matter to Netflix, it matters to media companies, and if you want to make their content available you have to play by their rules. Arguably also, it is about the common barrier. Nothing you do will ever make it 100% secure, but if you get the threshold high enough most casual users will not bother.

    20. Re:Linux support by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      The question is why does it matter to the media companies. Everything that you can stream has already been released on DVD. It has already been ripped. It has already been uploaded to myriad file sharing site. Anyone who wants to get at it illegally can do so, with minimal effort. Adding DRM on the streaming version gives them absolutely nothing, it just makes the Netflix implementation more complex and means that it's harder for legitimate customers to use it (no cheap Netflix streaming boxes with little embedded Linux on ARM installs, for example).

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    21. Re:Linux support by Skarecrow77 · · Score: 1

      I certainly agree. My house sports no less than 6 computers between myself and my wife, without even counting limited use computers like smartphones, tablets, consoles, etc. That includes at least one computer whose primary function is netflix and facebook (because it sits next to my wife's work computer).

      I figured that for people that already have a grip with spending money (note, i'm not referring to all linux users by any stretch of the imagination, just the ones above bitching about the cost of windows), recommending an entire second system isn't too fesible.

    22. Re:Linux support by TrancePhreak · · Score: 1

      Because companies like Disney only want their movies available for a certain time. So they are only available on Netflix for X number of months. I don't agree with it, but there's the conditions.

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    23. Re:Linux support by HermMunster · · Score: 1

      I'm running netflix on my Android tablet. It is the same drm found on netflix, albeit without silverlight. I am also running it my Barnes and Noble Nook Color with the cyanogenmod nightlies. I am able to run the netflix app without problems. On each linux box I have I am able to play videos from HULU and that has drm.

      In each of these scenarios others are doing the same thing. You don't hear them screaming about drm.

      So what's your point? You intentionally trying to mislead people?

      And please remember android is linux.

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    24. Re:Linux support by kimvette · · Score: 1

      I have Amazon Prime too (for the shipping benefits) and I haven't explored the video offerings too much because what I was interested in was also available on Netflix, and since Netflix is support by my iPhone, my laptop (if booted to Windows, grrrrr), my xBox, my blu-ray player, and so on.

      Amazon is supported by my TV, but my Samsung supports only their first generation apps so the app interface is s-l-o-w so I use either the blu-ray player or xbox to watch netflix.

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    25. Re:Linux support by HermMunster · · Score: 1

      Strawman argument.

      He wasn't modded down. He should have been because he isn't telling the truth by any stretch. Plenty of linux users use HULU. Netflix on android is available, and it is Linux.

      And the market share for linux is near 100 million. So please cry me a river.

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    26. Re:Linux support by josepha48 · · Score: 1
      Actually netflix does run on linux, because Tivo runs linux and Tivo has netflix.

      I think the issue I have with the price split / hike is it was not too long ago that I was paying 8.99 for this plan and then it went to 9.99 and the just streaming was 8.99. So they actually lowered the just streaming price, but almost doubled my original streaming plus 1 at a time plan.

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    27. Re:Linux support by hedwards · · Score: 1

      No, it's a BS excuse. Netflix chose to create a site that doesn't comply with known standards and as a result the site doesn't allow for streaming to Linux computers. The whole notion that one should have to use an approved OS is really just evidence that the DoJ hasn't been aggressive enough in punishing antitrust violations.

    28. Re:Linux support by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      I presume it matters because there are people who don't know about the other ways of getting the content.

      Heck, I wouldn't doubt if some people would put the output of a netflix stream into a VCR and record it, so that they would have their own copy. (As has annoyed many people, the licenses DO run out. Netflix doesn't have everything streaming forever.)

    29. Re:Linux support by RobbieThe1st · · Score: 1

      So, in that case, you just find any divx/xvid-streaming site. That'll work on Linux. Same with anything flash based.

    30. Re:Linux support by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Presenting... Da Da Da Daaaaa... The cheap Netflix streaming box with little embedded Linux on ARM installs. Ok I don't think it runs Linux and I don't know if it's ARM, but it's a pretty small box, and only draws 2 Watts while streaming an HD movie, so I guarantee it's not x86. And the cheapest one is about $60. I don't think you can expect much cheaper than that. Sure you can't run a bittorrent client on it at the same time, but for $60 most people can afford a dedicated device. This is all assuming they don't already have a Wii/XBox360/PS3/BlueRay/WinPC already under their TV and don't require a dedicated device for running Netflix.

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    31. Re:Linux support by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I'd suggest mega video

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    32. Re:Linux support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They did and still do. They don't appear to be operating a streaming service operable through the web browser. They have a MS Windows download for the "computer". I suspect this is mostly a combination of stupidity and a lack of actual customers. Period.

    33. Re:Linux support by icebraining · · Score: 1

      Because some people would record the Netflix stream and distribute it to non-Netflix users.

      Not that they don't do it anyway, because there's plenty of sources and DRM is always cracked.

    34. Re:Linux support by timbo234 · · Score: 1

      The BBC iPlayer is available on Linux, DRM support and all. Just because the OS is open source doesn't mean you can't write closed-source software on it, including software that implements DRM.

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    35. Re:Linux support by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Can anyone suggest a streaming movie service that has a selection comparable to Netfix and will run on a computer using GNU/Linux?

      No. There isn't one because Microsoft traded a seat on the board and other unspecified benefits in exchange for Netflix using Silverlight instead of Flash, which would have meant it would work fine on Linux.

      FTFY, HTH, HAND

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    36. Re:Linux support by Johnny+O · · Score: 1

      I haven't installed windows since 3.11. I have been totally *nix/Linux. I buy proprietary software over the years. I don't need source for everything. I buy my games (both Linux and Windows/Wine). I bought WineX/Cedega back when it was better than Wine for my needs. I bought my scanner software. Before OpenOffice I used to buy all the WordPerfect/WPOffice versions. I bought every version of VMware Workstation since it came out, although I have qemu working quite well, I prefer VMware. I still prefer my paid-for version of xingmp3enc over the other free encoders. I can go on but needless to say I will open my wallet if there is a need.

      Why do idiots still use that argument that we all want the source or just go away!? Some of us will pay for a quality product or for a specific need.

      Hell, some people still pay for Windows and Windows products instead of downloading them, don't they?

    37. Re:Linux support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Closed binaries run fine on linux. DRM is being worked on; dvd went in shortly after the format was released, I hear work on blu-ray is ongoing, flash streaming is supported, there was even a spotify client at one point (not sure if it's still out there somewhere).

    38. Re:Linux support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know, I know it's not ideal, but most Linux users, like myself, have learned to be practical. I have exactly one Windows box in my home--my wife prefers it, so luckily this isn't it's only purpose--and it has a copy of PlayOn. PlayOn is nice little piece of software. While not the highest quality, it allows anything that can access http to have view netflix instant, and even be ripped with a simple wget command.

    39. Re:Linux support by chrisinspace · · Score: 1

      Yeah...VM is not ideal for graphic intensive tasks like streaming video. I had the same dilemma until I got a TV with Netflix built in. If you want to stay open source and not surrender your money to M$ for one specific task, then you might look into something like a Boxee Box or Roku. They are build on Linux, can potentially cost less (base Roku model is $60), and offer a lot of cool features. It sucks that you can get Netflix on a machine running a Linux kernel, but not in a mainstream distro, but as mentioned previously, it comes down to DRM. I don't buy the market-share argument. There's now way you can say that they are more people with these linux-based devices than self-installed distros.

    40. Re:Linux support by dhj · · Score: 1

      News flash: There is nothing preventing companies from developing DRM or closed binaries on linux. nVidia already has closed binaries, hulu (with drm obviously) runs on a linux OS. The reason companies don't support linux desktop is solely because the linux desktop market is so small that companies do not see a profit benefit in supporting it. So email your favorite(?) company and let them know you are a linux user and you would like for them to support linux.

    41. Re:Linux support by PickyH3D · · Score: 1

      Interesting. I didn't notice those, but I'll admit that I gave up after a few pages.

    42. Re:Linux support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go for you, but his was much less trollish.

      PS: I still consider it trolling if, even though I agree with the point it makes, a post rebuts in a disagreeable manner.

  2. Yes I can by Hatta · · Score: 1

    But it's not legal.

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    1. Re:Yes I can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it's not legal.

      Usenet. Nuff said.

    2. Re:Yes I can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Usenet + SABnzbd + NZBMatrix.com to be more precise. Then CouchPotato or Sick Beard as front ends. Very nice automatic setup.

    3. Re:Yes I can by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Not what I was thinking of. But just to make sure, is there a nice front end for streaming off of USENET? A plugin for XBMC would be awesome.

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    4. Re:Yes I can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go on. that wasn't stipulated.

    5. Re:Yes I can by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "What is 'can you kill my wife?'"... I'll take Obvious Answers that end in "But it's not legal" for $400.

  3. in much the same way by nimbius · · Score: 2

    disgruntled chrysler drivers are being chased by a zombie car salesman offering yugos and fiats.

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    1. Re:in much the same way by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 1

      Netflix: screws you in one single orifice
      Blockbuster: Screws you in all available orifices and attempts to create additional ones

  4. DirecTV does not own Blockbuster by revjtanton · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dish Network picked up Blockbuster. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/06/us-blockbuster-dishnetwork-idUSTRE7351VA20110406 Also note the "Subsidiary of Dish Network" part here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockbuster_Inc.

    1. Re:DirecTV does not own Blockbuster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dish, directTV, doesn't matter, no one cares.

      -BB Employee

    2. Re:DirecTV does not own Blockbuster by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      It was also in the FIRST SENTENCE of the article the submitter referenced. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the submitters don't read the articles before submitting any more than the editors do before posting.

    3. Re:DirecTV does not own Blockbuster by rbrausse · · Score: 1

      read

      is this some new technology? please explain it to us, maybe the concept will fitting in the whole "stuff that matters" thingy /. is so proud of :)

    4. Re:DirecTV does not own Blockbuster by Hummdis · · Score: 1

      You'd think that jfruhlinger would have picked up on that given that it's in the first sentence in TFA.

      Blockbuster, the former DVD rental powerhouse that went bankrupt and was purchased by Dish Network in April,....

    5. Re:DirecTV does not own Blockbuster by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 1

      There's an app for that. I hope.

    6. Re:DirecTV does not own Blockbuster by AlamedaStone · · Score: 1

      read

      is this some new technology? please explain it to us, maybe the concept will fitting in the whole "stuff that matters" thingy /. is so proud of :)

      I don't think there's linux support yet

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  5. DVDs yes, streaming no, poor timing... by neurocutie · · Score: 4, Informative

    As an alternative, in some ways even better than Netflix, Blockbusters is a viable choice for DVDs by mail, particularly if you have a store that is (still) close to you (despite the massive store closures). But as a streaming service, no... BB streaming is still only a competitor to PayPerView, which is pretty much what BB's streaming service is... BB DOES NOT do streaming subscriptions, which is what Netflix is and really has no competition. With Netflix you give up new releases for a subscription that gives you unlimited viewing of admittedly older content that also doesn't match DVDs in breadth, but the price is right-ish. With BB, you get new releases for streaming at the high (to consumers, not to studios) prices. BB *will* have to change to compete... but its really all in the hands of the studios...

    1. Re:DVDs yes, streaming no, poor timing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Netflix has a wider selection of DVDs than blockbuster. My original reason for joining Netflix was because it had stuff I wanted to see which nobody else had.

    2. Re:DVDs yes, streaming no, poor timing... by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Well we don't really do streaming. We've had the Blockbuster DVD-by-mail service for 3 years or more, and it meets our needs very well. They tried to raise the monthly price on us once a year or so ago, so we cancelled and started looking at the NetFlix options, but before we did anything, Blockbuster emailed us with an offer at an even lower monthly price that we were paying before, sans the return-it-to-the-local-rental-store option. We never did that anyway, so we re-upped with Blockbuster for that deal.

      Yea, I get that everybody else loves NetFlix and loves to bash Blockbuster. I was never much of a fan of their stores, and almost never used their streaming / on-line purchase services, but the service we have is fine, and works great for us, and is less than the comparable service from NetFlix, not to mention the wait-30-days-for-new-releases issue that we never dealt with. So BB does have happy customers, in spite of the vast amount of noise claiming otherwise.

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    3. Re:DVDs yes, streaming no, poor timing... by crackspackle · · Score: 1

      As an alternative, in some ways even better than Netflix, Blockbusters is a viable choice for DVDs by mail, particularly if you have a store that is (still) close to you (despite the massive store closures).

      Up until a month ago, I had a Blockbuster 3 at a time with in store exchange at the same time I carried a 3 at a time by mail with Netflix. Even though I turned discs around on the same day of receipt. I ended up getting more discs per month from Netflix. I'd say the amount of unusable discs I got from Blockbuster was about 1 in 3 where Netflix was 1 in 20. That cuts down the value a lot. Add to that, Blockbuster intentionally staggers disc receipt and shipments. In store returns do not clear immediately even though they no longer show in your queue. They have to be received by mail. This is the theory at least because the actual receipt date for 3 discs returned to store always stagger over 3 days. Then, they do the same with the new shipments. It seems they want to supply no more than 3 by mail and 3 by store every seven days. With Netflix, I get two shipments a week during a non-holiday week. When you factor in the broken discs, Blockbuster by mail can't compare to Netflix at all.

    4. Re:DVDs yes, streaming no, poor timing... by hedwards · · Score: 1

      Netflix has competition, and the competition is largely free. Crackle and Hulu for instance.

      Plus, the streaming library that Netflix has sucks, I mean seriously it does, it's got only a small fraction of the titles that Netflix and BB have available as DVDs and most of the ones they do offer for streaming are obscure or old and they cycle in and out relatively frequently without any sort of warning about when they're about to be removed.

    5. Re:DVDs yes, streaming no, poor timing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But they have GAME rental!!!! I'm serious this is Netflix+GameFly in one!

    6. Re:DVDs yes, streaming no, poor timing... by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Hulu's selection sucks ass. And Netflix's streaming library is BY FAR the best of any service online. It's not even close. And I say that as someone who has used about every streaming service there is at one time or another. Nothing else is even in the same league as Netflix streaming. I can watch an incredible amount of stuff in HD on Netflix that most streaming services don't even have in SD. I can sit and watch every season of Battlestar Galactica (HD), Firefly (HD), South Park, Family Guy, and tons of other shows on Netflix. What do you get with Hulu, the last 5 episodes (if you're lucky)? And does Hulu even support HD? How does Hulu's movie selection compare to Netflix?

      $7.99 a month is a fucking STEAL for Netflix streaming. You're a spoiled brat if you're complaining about something you're getting for that cheap not being abolsutely perfect.

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  6. They probably got the emails... by bennomatic · · Score: 1

    ...from the roles of their customers who suddenly stopped coming in as Netflix' client base skyrocketed. I haven't gotten the email, but I know Blockbuster has it, and wouldn't be surprised if they figured out that my rental dollars were going to Netflix, not some little corner video shop. Especially considering most of those corner shops are out of business because of the likes of Blockbuster....

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  7. I'm not disgruntled by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm too happy paying $16 for Netflix/Roku, as opposed to $50 for cable.

    1. Re:I'm not disgruntled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm too happy paying $16 for Netflix/Roku, as opposed to $50 for cable.

      No shit. I don't understand these disgruntled idiots. Go back to paying an arm and a leg on ever-increasing cable bills. (Charter Comm. has been continually increasing rates once or twice a year here, for example.)

    2. Re:I'm not disgruntled by ThatCanadianGuy · · Score: 1

      Having no cable is one thing, but what of the people who also like to get news, sports and other Live feeds? Netflix can't offer you that. I'd be bitching too. But then again, I'm one of those who like my cable service and all the many live coverage events it offers me. (and I hate streaming movies. Quality sucks monkey balls) So in any case... its $50 (or whatever you're paying) plus the extra $16 for a streaming service that keeps jacking the price with no new releases.

    3. Re:I'm not disgruntled by s4ndm4n · · Score: 1

      I'm happy all around. Switched to streaming for $7.99. Heck we forget about the dvds we have around for months anyway. We have basic cable through our apartment complex anyway and so we're set. The stupid movie channels suck anyway and I find there are no comparable services anywhere. What is is with everyone, not wanting to pay for companies that actually do give them great stuff!?

    4. Re:I'm not disgruntled by blair1q · · Score: 2, Interesting

      6 months ago, if you had a Netflix DVD account, you were paying $0 to stream through your Roku, plus $8 for the DVD. Then you were paying $11 for them both. Now you're paying $17 for the same thing.

      There's no happy there. Just the gouging anyone could have predicted once Netflix had put both Hollywood Video and Blockbuster out of business.

    5. Re:I'm not disgruntled by blair1q · · Score: 1

      I can get 3D 1080p content over DirecTV. Over Netflix streaming, it's 720i, and maybe it runs all the way through without buffering.

      If I wanted pirate-video quality, I would have bought the movie for $0.99 in Chinatown.

    6. Re:I'm not disgruntled by publiclurker · · Score: 2

      Same here, between Netflix, OTA and the very basic $10.00 cable, I have more than enough to watch. then again, I'm one of those people in the long tail who actually likes watching old TV series and off-beat DVD's

    7. Re:I'm not disgruntled by mzs · · Score: 1

      My DSL company has a deal with ESPN and I get ESPN3 online, which is much of the stuff that is on ESPN and ESPN2 on cable/satellite. It has had a good selection of hockey and soccer at least for me. It's live and has replays whenever you want as well. Also news is online as well at the TV web sites, maybe an hour later or so the clips are up. But really what's the point of TV news and it's sensationalism when you can just read news online sooner? What other live events do you miss? CSPAN stuff is online (like USA federal government goings ons), NASATV as well, even boith local cable access channels stream online and have archived clips online here. Maybe it's worse in Canada, sorry. I do also have an antenna on my roof.

    8. Re:I'm not disgruntled by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 1

      I swore off $0.99 Chinatown movies because they kept trying to upsell me hookers or mogwai with my DVD's.

    9. Re:I'm not disgruntled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      6 months ago, if you had a Netflix DVD account, you were paying $0 to stream through your Roku, plus $8 for the DVD. Then you were paying $11 for them both. Now you're paying $17 for the same thing.

      There's no happy there. Just the gouging anyone could have predicted once Netflix had put both Hollywood Video and Blockbuster out of business.

      You're right, of course.

      Except that now my streaming goes to my PC, PS3, Wii, Xbox (if I owned one), my droid phone, my 3ds, as well as any set top boxes I might have. Their selection is huge in comparison to where it was, and there's access to hundreds of hours of T.V. that I want to watch. I'm not saying doubling the price is a good thing, but with everything that I've been given at 17$ a month, I'm not bitter.

      BTW, the 17$ service includes blu-ray discs, something else that wasn't part of the original 8$ cost.

    10. Re:I'm not disgruntled by Sancho · · Score: 1

      BTW, the 17$ service includes blu-ray discs, something else that wasn't part of the original 8$ cost.

      To be fair, I can't find a way to get anything out of Netflix for $17. What I see is an $8 plan for streaming and an $8 plan for 1 DVD out at a time. IIRC, Blu-ray costs $(disc+1), and has since the last price increase[1]. So previously, I suppose, it was $11/mo for 1 disc+streaming, or $13 for 1 disc+bluray+streaming. And now it's $16 for 1 disc+streaming, or $18 for 1 disc+bluray+streaming.

      It's probably all irrelevant. Netflix is still a very good deal, but it's still very irritating to have the prices raised by such a large percentage with no perceived increase in service.

      [1] I can't verify this without adding discs to my plan. Netflix makes it fairly hard to know how much their services are going to cost.

    11. Re:I'm not disgruntled by hedwards · · Score: 1

      That's something that a lot of folks seem to be forgetting. The price has increased drastically and according to Netflix the money isn't going to pay licensing fees. The CEO had his salary doubled during a recession and in the mean time the cost to the consumer for absolutely nothing extra has skyrocketed.

      Sure it is probably still a good deal at $16 a month, but the price is unlikely to stay there as the studios demand more money for licensing content. And folks like myself have totally lost any confidence in Netflix's ability to treat us fairly or respectfully.

    12. Re:I'm not disgruntled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      seems more like 6 months ago you were getting amazing value for your entertainment dollar, and now (starting in september?), you'll be getting very only pretty good value for that same dollar. loss of value-per-dollar? absolutely. but it's still a pretty good deal. people just like to kvetch...

    13. Re:I'm not disgruntled by blair1q · · Score: 1

      I get all kinds of shit for free over the Internet. And the stuff Netflix delivers that way is degraded. No 1080, weak selection, sometimes misformatted, balky, and, in at least one case, an entire season of a TV show was reversed so that when i selected episode 1 of season 2 I got the season finale (and all its spoilers) first. They're 3X the catalog and 100% improvement in reliability and quality away from being worth money at all.

  8. Blockbuster is even more expensive than Netflix? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    From the article the Blockbuster price is:

    $9.99 a month for one disc at a time

    The price for netflix is $7.99 for one disk a time.

    Why would customers who are upset about a price increase leave Netflix for a service that charges even more?

  9. viable business model by rbrausse · · Score: 1

    Are its services really going to be cheaper and/or better than Netflix's in the long run? Is 'You'll hate us less than Netflix' really a viable business model?"

    in a way this describes the model of Google+ compared to Facebook. so yes, this can be a successful basis

    1. Re:viable business model by neurocutie · · Score: 1

      big DIFF to Facebook/Google: the CONTENT holders... it is very unlikely that there will be a cheaper service to Netflix. On the contrary, it is nearly certain that ALL such streaming movie services will be MORE expensive than Netflix is now, INCLUDING Netflix itself. This is simply because, as Netflix and the like get MORe successful, then the other ways in which people watch movies will decrease. The studios want at least CONSTANT if not increasing revenue. Hence price increases for Netflix and the like. If a studio makes a movie for $100mil... it expects a good chunk of the return to come from DVDs and other "secondary" sources (PayPerView, Netflix, TV, cable, etc). As DVDs go DOWN, other sources go down, prices must go up to compensate (so goes the thought process at the studios...)

  10. Huh? by pz · · Score: 1

    Relatedly, reader assertation asks, "Can anyone suggest a streaming movie service that has a selection comparable to Netfix and will run on a computer using GNU/Linux?"

    Is this a serious question? Does the person asking think that any service with a video library as large as Netflix might somehow have escaped notice? Might not have been in the news like Netflix, Blockbuster, iTunes, Pandora, and other large streaming services? Might not have been extensively discussed on Slashdot already?

    Really?

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    1. Re:Huh? by h4rr4r · · Score: 2

      Considering he clearly does not know about Amazon Prime video I guess so. Works fine on linux, and just added several thousand more videos. If they keep that up I will be canceling netflix eventually.

    2. Re:Huh? by TheRealFixer · · Score: 1

      That last sentence is what's known as a "Slashdot Cred Enhancer". It's +1 credibility point for proclaiming that you run Linux as your only OS, and +2 credibility points for actually calling it GNU/Linux.

    3. Re:Huh? by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 2

      By "just added several thousand more videos", they actually mean "added about 2,000 episodes from fewer than 20 television shows, most of which Netflix also has".

      Amazon Prime is nice, but it's basically a subset of Netflix.

    4. Re:Huh? by neurocutie · · Score: 1

      my understanding is that Amazon is still FAR FAR FAR behind Netflix in title depth, in fact not even close to competing... I'll look again, but...

    5. Re:Huh? by psyclone · · Score: 1

      Most of the "desirable" content on Amazon streaming is still pay-per-show. Prime lets you stream only the "lowest" end of the catalog for free. On the Amazon Prime about page, they link to steaming movies and TV shows. On those first pages, only Monty Python is available for free. Netflix's streaming-only plan is only $17 dollars more per year than Amazon Prime, but Netflix's catalog dwarfs Amazon's.

      That said, it would be great if Amazon could offer itself as a viable competitor to Netflix. Like other's have mentioned, it seems more in the Studio's hands than anyone else's...

    6. Re:Huh? by neurocutie · · Score: 1

      so I checked again... nope Amazon Prime doesn't even rate... its movie selection is like 5% that of Netflix... forget it... Amazon Prime is only a teaser bone thrown in to sweeten the whole "Prime" offering (shipping, etc).

    7. Re:Huh? by Dan667 · · Score: 1

      hulu shows what happens when the studios get their way, it is not performing well and is for sale. They have no idea what they are doing.

    8. Re:Huh? by blair1q · · Score: 1

      My toilet flusher runs GNU/Linux. I run whatever came in the computer. Because I'm not limited like the computer is.

    9. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol -- I read OP and was literally thinking the exact same words "Is this a serious question" when I read it. What a ridiculous posting; I find myself wondering why soulskill would even post up assertation's "related question."

    10. Re:Huh? by Jerslan · · Score: 1

      Hulu was created *by* the studios, so yeah, they got "their way" (whatever that means).

      That said Hulu had, and still has, a lot going for it. In terms of TV Shows available Hulu Plus is fairly competitive with Netflix, plus they usually get new shows within a week of the original airing with many available the next day (there are a handful that are 30-days after original air, but these are few and far between). All you had to deal with was the occasional 1-2 commercials at the regular commercial intervals. Occasionally you had a video that gave you the option of one longer commercial at the beginning for no commercials later. This was a great trade-off for a free service. Hulu Plus gave you the ability to stream it to your TV easier, and enhanced their business model by keeping episodes available longer and in some cases offering past seasons for streaming.

    11. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But there is one. It's called Megavideo. (For those not in the know, Megaupload is one of those filehosting outfits used extensively, though not exclusively, for piracy. Megavideo is another site by the same company that offers a Flash interface for reduced-bandwidth streaming of most .avis (and some other containers) on Megaupload, but of course doesn't stream the contents of rars, etc. A few of the other filehosting outfits have a similar feature, but in my experience, Megavideo seems to have the best selection...)

      Or for an even wider selection, and given the ability to stop saying "streaming" like it matters, just use all the filehosting site (filestube.com is a good search engine for all the popular ones), start a file downloading, and play it. Unlike Bittorrent, which grabs the file in random order, http and ftp transfers are in-order, so you can play straight through as long as it downloads faster than realtime. Unless you have really sucky internet (and so need adaptive bitrate), streaming is highly overrated.

      Or you can go the true Linux/pirate/pimply-basement-dweller route and roll your own. Set up bittorrent on a VPS (preferably in another country -- won't stop a criminal inquest, but it does eliminate the hassles of infringement letters), get on a good private tracker or a few, and bittorrent stuff down in minutes, then sftp it to that multi-TB RAID in your home machine, or just stream it with VLC (or whatever) if hoarding's not your style...

      Wait, what, you wanted legal options? YMBNH.

  11. Hey, Google's doing it too... by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    "you'll hate us less than Facebook" is the Google+ slogan, right?

    It's this year's marketing paradigm. You know, like how animals and pre-humans selling insurance became so popular last decade.

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    1. Re:Hey, Google's doing it too... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      More recent marketing confusion...

      "Slashdot - you'll hate us 50% less than Reddit, or your money back!"

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    2. Re:Hey, Google's doing it too... by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 1

      I'll bet you're going to get modded down even though what you said is true.

    3. Re:Hey, Google's doing it too... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "you'll hate us less than Facebook" is the Google+ slogan, right?

      It's this year's marketing paradigm. You know, like how animals and pre-humans selling insurance became so popular last decade.

      Actually that marketing paradigm has been going for a while... "you'll hate us less than Bush" was the Democrat's slogan, right? (or was it just "change", I forgot, it's been so many trillions of dollars and thouands of deaths ago, I may have been paraphrasing a bit)...

  12. but WHY? by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

    I've never taken a business or economics class in my life, so maybe this is a dumb question, but why isn't DirectTV just spinning off the streaming portion of Blockbuster and letting the dead weight die, or at least changing the name? Are there really people who think "Ooh, blockbuster, now there's a name I know and DON'T associate with bad selection, higher than reasonable prices, and terrible service! Sign me up!"

    (Full disclosure: Long ago, I worked at a Blockbuster. We did have a bad selection, the prices were higher than the mom-and-pop stores they were shutting down, and I did my part to ensure they had terrible service. I'm sure there were stores where the workers -didn't- hate their manager and -weren't- trying to sink the store out there somewhere, but I never saw them.)

    1. Re:but WHY? by hawguy · · Score: 1

      Are there really people who think "Ooh, blockbuster, now there's a name I know and DON'T associate with bad selection, higher than reasonable prices, and terrible service! Sign me up!"

      Because for many many people, they equate the name Blockbuster with the convenient video store where they've rented movies for years. Not everyone is a moviephile that things Blockbuster's mainstream movie selection is lacking.

    2. Re:but WHY? by vlm · · Score: 1

      There's a couple brain cells floating around thinking Blockbuster is still the ONLY way to watch at home. A hangover from the era after Blockbuster destroyed all other video rental operations, but before netflix and cabletv ondemand destroyed Blockbuster. Until those memories fade, the brand will still have some minimal viability.

      "Blockbuster? Thats the only way to watch at home, isn't it?"

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    3. Re:but WHY? by tepples · · Score: 1

      why isn't DirectTV just spinning off the streaming portion of Blockbuster and letting the dead weight die, or at least changing the name?

      DirecTV still can't beat the cable companies when it comes to home Internet access, a requirement for VOD over IP.

  13. Brandten is like you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CULVER CITY, CAâ"Nathan Brandten, the last remaining male heir to a rich genetic lineage stretching dozens of generations into the dim and distant past, watched a movie alone on his laptop late Friday evening, sources reported.

    Brandten, 32, the final product of a dwindling bloodline that his proud forebears fought relentlessly to advance even before the dawn of history, decided to spend his free time after work watching the 1989 Tom Hanks comedy film The 'Burbs.

    "I think I'll just stay in tonight," said Brandten, whose scared and frostbitten ancestors traversed the icy Bering Strait into a bewildering and perilous new world so that his precious genetic material might one day flourish. "Thank God for Netflix streaming."

    "I remember Hanks being pretty funny in this," continued the man whose storied surname will very likely end with him. "You got to love his early stuff."

    According to the descendant of Bronze Age Nordic boatmen who sailed fearlessly across the North Sea in a tireless quest for self- preservation, he was initially torn between watching The 'Burbs and the 1995 showbiz farce Get Shorty.

    However, after remembering that he had actually watched Get Shorty fairly recently, the man who has thus far failed to extend the survival of his ancestryâ"a heritage that miraculously spans unbroken across 200,000 years of human strife and perseveranceâ"decided to watch The 'Burbs instead.

    "The mixture of slapstick and gothic horror parody actually holds up surprisingly well," said the only child and sole remaining link to the Germanic serfs whose blood still courses through his veins. "You can tell [actor Bruce] Dern probably had a ball making this, too."

    While claiming that watching a film in solitude without any female to fulfill his male biological imperative was a "pretty nice night," Brandten was momentarily deterred when his Internet connection slowed down significantly for a period of almost 10 minutes.

    "This thing is buffering at a crawl tonight," said Brandten, whose 19th-century namesake Nathaniel Lee Brandten once led his kin across barren wilderness in a tragic half-decade trek from Boston to the Pacific Northwest. "I'm not even watching it in full-screen mode. Why is it so slow?"

    "And you'd think a movie like this would be available in HD, too," added the great-great-grandson of wounded World War I flying ace Wilbur Brandten, who vowed to make it home from the war alive no matter what the cost so he could pass on the Brandten family name. "Not sure what that's all about."

    The direct result of several million years of evolution in which tree-dwelling primates moved to the land and began walking upright in order to take advantage of available resources told reporters he had not seen the film since his childhood, when he watched it frequently, and added that he "really enjoyed" the scene where Tom Hanks ate the sardines.

    The last relative of countless mammalian and non-mammalian animals forced to kill other members of their own species just to ensure their genetic survival also cited the scene where Rick Ducommun's character accidentally gets electrocuted as his "favorite."

    After finishing the movie, Brandten, who has been single since 2007, rummaged through his refrigerator for an aluminum tray of leftover Mexican takeout food, consumed a half-eaten enchilada in near darkness, and made his way to bed.

    "Man, I am exhausted," said the collection of specialized eukaryotic and symbiotic prokaryotic cells that have evolved over eons, giving rise to a complex, sentient organism capable of surviving and reproducing in even the harshest of environments. "Glad I took it easy tonight."

    From The Onion

  14. In-store exchange: taken away and given back? by Morris+Thorpe · · Score: 1

    FTFA
    >>Both plans come with a 30-day free trial and include "unlimited in-store exchanges of by-mail rentals."

    So the in-store exchange is back?
    Bastards! I used to be a fairly happy Blockbuster customer until they cancelled in-store exchange. I moved to Netflix and, evidently, I was not alone. At the time, Blockbuster said stores were losing money because of this.
    So why did they bring the plan back? Seems to me they tried to see just how much they could get out of their customers and miscalculated. Badly.

    Of course, it's not the first time Blockbuster has made a dumb mistake. Remember the "No Late Fees" fiasco?

    1. Re:In-store exchange: taken away and given back? by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      I too left when they ended the free in-store exchanges.

      Even if they do bring it back, where is a Blockbuster store still open?

    2. Re:In-store exchange: taken away and given back? by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      So the in-store exchange is back?

      It's been back for years (literal years, not hyperbole) now. At least 2.6ish.

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    3. Re:In-store exchange: taken away and given back? by Sancho · · Score: 1

      Add me to the list of people who cancelled when they ended in-store exchange. The Blockbuster debacle was a huge boon for Netflix. BB raised prices, Netflix lowered them. BB canceled in-store exchange, Netflix added streaming for free. I knew several people who were displeased with Blockbuster for tihs.

    4. Re:In-store exchange: taken away and given back? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently you weren't the only person who left when the canceled in-store exchange. If they lost enough customers that way, maybe they brought it back to try to get them back.

  15. Not while respecting copyright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Relatedly, reader assertation asks, "Can anyone suggest a streaming movie service that has a selection comparable to Netfix and will run on a computer using GNU/Linux?"

    Linux lacks a standard DRM solution. Thus, no company that is licensing content from movie studios is able to ship their product on non-closed (like Tivo or individual Android handsets) Linux platforms. Moonlight might be able to solve this, but it would involve Microsoft being willing to give Linux their DRM solution, which so far they are loathed to do.

    1. Re:Not while respecting copyright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The how is Amazon Instant Prime doing it?

    2. Re:Not while respecting copyright by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      Hulu and Amazon Instant Video pretty much prove you wrong.

    3. Re:Not while respecting copyright by tepples · · Score: 1

      Linux lacks a standard DRM solution.

      Then what's this? That sure looks like DRM.

      But seriously: Netflix could just cook up its own digital restrictions management solution. Why hasn't it? Is it the fact that anybody can modify an X server to tee the raw pixels into a transcoding process?

    4. Re:Not while respecting copyright by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why hasn't it?

      Netflix CEO sits on board at Microsoft, that's why.

    5. Re:Not while respecting copyright by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      Why does that matter?
      They mail you blu-rays and DVDs and those are much easier to copy. The Blu-ray would also be higher quality.

    6. Re:Not while respecting copyright by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Does it use special software? Or just let you take it using something you compiled yourself?

    7. Re:Not while respecting copyright by Kalriath · · Score: 1

      That stands for "Direct Rendering Manager", not "Digital Rights Management". Nice try though.

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    8. Re:Not while respecting copyright by leoplan2 · · Score: 1

      Flash Player (proprietary)

  16. Re:I am Canadian. I have no options. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am a Canadian. I have no options.

    Marijuana is decriminalized up there, right?

    WTF are you doing watching movies? You should be listening to Pink Floyd or something.

  17. What about your local library ... by MacTO · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm mentioning this because a lot of people forget that many public libraries have excellent video collections. It won't always be the latest and sometimes you'll have to wait for a popular movie, but most libraries also seem to share the same philosophy that GNU/Linux users share: the are advocates of freedom.

    1. Re:What about your local library ... by Radical+Moderate · · Score: 1

      Ours has a pretty good selection, but chances are everything you want is already checked out. Sure you can try to reserve titles I guess, but not worth the hassle for me. YMMV, of course.

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    2. Re:What about your local library ... by glwtta · · Score: 2

      The selection is pretty good, but I've never been able to get the streaming working.

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    3. Re:What about your local library ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shhhh. Are you crazy?!

    4. Re:What about your local library ... by MacTO · · Score: 1

      Agreed. It depends upon your interests, your library's resources, and your patience.

      But the summary mentioned GNU/Linux so I figured that freedom may have been an element. Most of the librarians I've encountered are supportive of the freedom to read (e.g. resources should be free, censorship is evil) and some libraries are very proactive in making whatever resources they do have widely available regardless of where you live (e.g. some of the earliest big online resources were assembled by librarians, many digitization projects are at least partially run by major libraries, they are fighting to keep the publishers in line in this digital age).

      If you are a freedom lover like those librarians, then you have to be willing to make some compromises -- and hopefully be willing to contribute as much as they do too.

    5. Re:What about your local library ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm mentioning this because a lot of people forget that many public libraries have excellent video collections. It won't always be the latest and sometimes you'll have to wait for a popular movie, but most libraries also seem to share the same philosophy that GNU/Linux users share: the are advocates of freedom.

      I think it pretty much says it all when someone offers up the public library as an alternative source of movies to a once massively lucrative movie distribution company.

      Next someone well be telling me I can just use the public library to get books now that Borders has collapsed.

    6. Re:What about your local library ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Libraries with freakin' movies? Only in the USA.

  18. $200 per device for the Windows license by tepples · · Score: 2

    couldn't you VMware/virtualbox windows for that purpose?

    Yes, at a cost of $200 per device for the Windows license.

    1. Re:$200 per device for the Windows license by masshuu · · Score: 1

      Windows 7 home OME is like $100 on newegg.

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    2. Re:$200 per device for the Windows license by tepples · · Score: 1

      If by OME you mean OEM, this page explains that OEM licenses are for computers that you plan to sell to an unrelated party, not computers that you plan to use.

    3. Re:$200 per device for the Windows license by masshuu · · Score: 1

      Yes I meant OEM. I looked and a normal copy is only like $120 on newegg if you want to get anal over licencing terms.

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    4. Re:$200 per device for the Windows license by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      Thats not anal that is just following the licenses. Either pay for it or use something else.

    5. Re:$200 per device for the Windows license by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why bother paying for an invalid license? If you're not going to get a license that actually legally entitles you to use the software as you intend, then you may as well pirate. It's equally legal and has the advantage of costing less. Paying $120 and still being liable for $750+ damages (plus legal fees) for wilful copyright infringement just seems a bit stupid.

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    6. Re:$200 per device for the Windows license by masshuu · · Score: 1

      What legal fees revolve around having a proper licence and not an OEM(The normal version was $120, OEM was $100)

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    7. Re:$200 per device for the Windows license by Xtravar · · Score: 1

      Why bother paying for an invalid license?

      Windows Update is easier if you have a valid-looking license. Not that I am recommending one way or the other.

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    8. Re:$200 per device for the Windows license by CTU · · Score: 0

      Sell it to yourself. A cheap way to bypass that restriction, but it should be good enough.

    9. Re:$200 per device for the Windows license by tepples · · Score: 1

      Sell it to yourself.

      Good luck defending that as an arm's length transaction should you get audited.

    10. Re:$200 per device for the Windows license by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      You would probably be throwing a fit if someone were copying GPLed code in a released product and not releasing the source.

      Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

    11. Re:$200 per device for the Windows license by bluegreen997 · · Score: 1

      I agree that your overall point is valid but do you really think MS is going to 'audit' home users anytime soon?

      Don't get me wrong, MS is evil but they are not stupid...well not that stupid.

    12. Re:$200 per device for the Windows license by Captain+Hook · · Score: 1

      MS aren't auditing a home user, they are auditing a someone/some company which is selling their licenses to a 3rd Party (at least thats what the license you are buying says you are doing).

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    13. Re:$200 per device for the Windows license by greap · · Score: 1

      OEM is a device license, the full version is a user license. Also the full version includes x86 & amd64 while OEM targets a specific architecture. You can buy an OEM license and use it but the terms do not permit you to move it to a different machine.

    14. Re:$200 per device for the Windows license by Eponymous+Hero · · Score: 1

      paying for operating systems is for suckers. i never have. and no, my stone cold heart feels nothing for the poor starving microsoft execs.

      there's a dilbert for that: http://www.perturb.org/display/462_Dilbert___Unix.html

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  19. Re:I am Canadian. I have no options. by Mikkeles · · Score: 1

    'Marijuana is decriminalized up there, right?'

    No :(

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  20. A Chrysler is a Fiat by tepples · · Score: 1

    Are you referring to Fiat licensing its platform to Zastava and later buying Chrysler?

    1. Re:A Chrysler is a Fiat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fiat is actually now owner of Zastava too.

  21. Let's see.... by MBCook · · Score: 1

    I'm a Netflix user. Let's see what I think.

    • Netflix - Company that's been great to me, and still has rather reasonable prices. That $9 plan seemed to good to be true, I'm not surprised it didn't last long.
    • Blockbuster - Famous for being rented out, poor service, high prices, and going bankrupt because Netflix was so much better all their customers ran away.
    • DirectTV - Provided nice satellite service to me, but not known for great customer service. I left them because they ditched their great DirecTiVo boxes for their own in-house garbage to save $1/month/subscriber. Hint: I would have gladly paid $2 to get a real TiVo.

    So I like Netflix, still hate BB, and I'm still mad at DirecTV. I think I'll stick with Netflix. Besides, if I really want it now, there's always RedBox.

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    1. Re:Let's see.... by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Netflix could have got away with maybe a 20-30% price hike. 60% is going to hurt them more than they anticipated.

    2. Re:Let's see.... by silas_moeckel · · Score: 1

      Lets not forget the icing on the directTV tivo stupidity they release a 1k HD tivo and a year later announced it would not be compatible with the new HD streams (mpeg 2 only and they switched to 4 I believe) coming out that fall. Switched to series 3 with cable cards as long as the fcc is mandating they work the box works.

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    3. Re:Let's see.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a Netflix user. Let's see what I think.

      • Netflix - Company that's been great to me, and still has rather reasonable prices. That $9 plan seemed to good to be true, I'm not surprised it didn't last long.
      • Blockbuster - Famous for being rented out, poor service, high prices, and going bankrupt because Netflix was so much better all their customers ran away.
      • DirectTV - Provided nice satellite service to me, but not known for great customer service. I left them because they ditched their great DirecTiVo boxes for their own in-house garbage to save $1/month/subscriber. Hint: I would have gladly paid $2 to get a real TiVo.

      So I like Netflix, still hate BB, and I'm still mad at DirecTV. I think I'll stick with Netflix. Besides, if I really want it now, there's always RedBox.

      My local Blockbuster (and I presume all Blockbuster's) has reduced/changed the price of many of it's movies to $1/day (effectively turning becoming a quasi-redbox. "Quasi" because most of these are older movies). I ALWAYS thought BB older movies should have been cheaper than new releases (a policy they held during the VHS days.) IMO I think having the same price for old and new DVD's ultimately hurt BB (still can't believe they did that--the love of money is the root of all evil).

      So, in short, BB has become more attractive to me. I'm also a Netflix customer and I'm thinking of going back to BB because I'm NOT going to pay for streaming AND DVD's. It really comes down to how bad I want to see New releases. I'm leaning toward keeping Netflix streaming (it's soooo convenient and my kids like it) and just running out to Redbox (or now maybe BB) when I want a new release or non-streamed movie. Decisions, decisions.

    4. Re:Let's see.... by MBCook · · Score: 1

      That's what I did. I held on to my DirecTiVo for a little while, until I purchased an HD TV and a Series 3 the same day. I signed up for Comcast, who are only incompetent and haven't actively made me hate them any more than I expected.

      I'm glad the Cable Card mandate is there, but it's still a horrid system. I wish Google (et. al.) would get their way with their video-over-ip in the home system where the cable company is only responsible for a gateway box on the edge of the network and any device on the home network could receive video. It would be so much nicer.

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    5. Re:Let's see.... by silas_moeckel · · Score: 1

      The only way that will happen is with a mandate precluding DRM. I realy liked the old firewire mandate it gave you the raw mpeg2 stream, and fire wire had the potential to be the perfect AV interconnect.

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  22. No ESPN by tepples · · Score: 1

    And most heads of household that I've spoken to are too happy paying $50 for ESPN, something Netflix can't match.

    1. Re:No ESPN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And most heads of household that I've spoken to are too happy paying $50 for ESPN, something Netflix can't match.

      I would be happy to keep my cable and drop all espn, but i have to pay for the package for the wifes cooking channels, and to get speedvision network. Espn is never on at my house.

    2. Re:No ESPN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ESPN3 was the catalyst for me to give up cable. I am often more interested in out of market games anyway, so most of what I want from ESPN is available there. I generally only miss the stuff that is also regionally broadcast, in my case SEC stuff I don't care much about anyway.

  23. Re:Blockbuster is even more expensive than Netflix by neurocutie · · Score: 1

    BB's allows renting of new, new releases via mail, not wait for 30 days. Also in my experience, BB really doesn't throttle and you can, if you time correctly, get true new releases and a cycle in less than a week (complete mail cycle from receipt to send to next receipt, sometimes even in 4 days. What I hear of Netflix is that although it is good for depth, better than Blockbusters, it is often impossible to get the "new stuff" (new within the past couple months), and they throttle seriously, and of course no new releases (same timing as PayPerView). BB of course also does in store exchanges, which I like a lot... the real main reason I do BB...

  24. I would switch back if they offered subscription by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I dropped Blockbuster and subscribed to Netflix last month, and in many ways, I'm regretting it. Netflix is good for streaming some TV shows (as long as you are OK with watching last year's episodes) and a few movies, but it is waaaaay behind in streaming worth-while New Film Releases, and their user interface is horrible. When you go to New Releases, it shows you anything new to THEM, not new to the market. Unless someone can tell me where it exists on NetFlix's site, one cannot just look for "movies released in the last week or last month or last year". It just shows everything that NetFlix added to its list. Makes it incredibly frustrating having to go to someone else's site to find movies that were released, then go back and search Netflix to find out that they don't even have it. And if you want the new releases, you can only get them in the mail, in which case, how is that better than Blockbuster? Some people probably like just browsing through B-movies, speghetti westerns, and 50s-80s flicks, but I watch a lot of movies and seeing the latest straight-to-DVD Val Kilmer movie isn't my idea of a Friday night. Blockbuster missed the boat when it came to streaming and NOT having a subscription streaming service left them sinking in their dingy. I have no interest paying per-movie. If Blockbuster offered subscription streaming, I'd probably dump Netflix, because they don't have the selection or the interface.

  25. Viable Business Model? by dmomo · · Score: 1

    Since when is a marketing tactic the same as a business model?

    No. That is not a viable business model. It is, however a viable marketing ploy if the cost of sending the message is less than the benefit received having sent it, which is likely given the low cost of email marketing (leaving room, of course for knowing how much that email list cost).

    1. Re:Viable Business Model? by blair1q · · Score: 2

      Since when is a marketing tactic the same as a business model?

      When you see the ad.

  26. Re:Blockbuster is even more expensive than Netflix by Xenx · · Score: 0

    It might have something to do with the fact that a 1 dvd at a time (+streaming) subscription costs $15.98/mo for Netflix. If they don't care about the streaming, Blockbuster's subscription is cheaper.

  27. Re:Blockbuster is even more expensive than Netflix by xeromist · · Score: 1

    Netflix charges an extra $3/mo for Blu-Ray while BB does not. Combine that with the ability to swap in store with BB (one about a mile away from me) and BB is cheaper with an extra feature.

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  28. I, for one, welcome... by Legal.Troll · · Score: 0

    ... any player out there that is capable of punching these jerkhats right in the junk. Much as cable companies suck, I'm shocked by how poor Netflix's billing practices are and even more shocked that they're legal.

    For reference, the only way to cancel your account, without paying for extra membership time that you're not able to use, is to cancel your account ON THE REBILL DATE but BEFORE THEY REBILL.

    Yeah, you heard right. If you cancel your subscription, they immediately stop providing the streaming service, but still charge you for the whole month. You can't simply tell them to refrain from rebilling you when next billing cycle comes. If you wait until the billing cycle ends, you're taking the risk that they'll bill you for a whole extra month that you don't want.

    There is no customer service for billing issues. You cannot even talk to anybody that has the authority to issue you any form of refund. This company is like Sprint, only without the same level of honesty and good manners.

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    1. Re:I, for one, welcome... by eharvill · · Score: 1

      For reference, the only way to cancel your account, without paying for extra membership time that you're not able to use, is to cancel your account ON THE REBILL DATE but BEFORE THEY REBILL.

      Yeah, I was a little surprised about that when I canceled. I'd be curious about the legality of it, but honestly I'm too lazy to care at this point.

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  29. Re:Blockbuster is even more expensive than Netflix by damiangerous · · Score: 1

    If you have an Blockbuster store nearby each mailed rental you turn in at the store is a free rental. You also get two coupons per month for in store rentals. At least that's how it used to work

  30. Re:I would switch back if they offered subscriptio by neurocutie · · Score: 1

    IF BB offered subscription streaming...
    Netflix has poor new release selection...

    You've answered your own question here... the REASON that BB doesn't offer subscription streaming is that it would have to GIVE UP good new release offerings. And the reason for that is that the STUDIOS will not allow cut rate, unlimited streaming of new releases at a cheap price. If BB offered subscription streaming WITH new releases, the cost would be easily $100/mo or MORE.

    This is the choice... pretty much controlled by the studios, not BB or Netflix. Now maybe BB could do something clever, like old stuff for $10/mo and 4 new ones a month for an add'n $10/mo. Otherwise, this is why DVDs are still relevant, as they are the ONLY way that studios have let consumers view new stuff at the $1-2/view or $10/mo "unlimited" (actually 4-6/mo given mail delays). And Redbox fought a HUGE battle to keep the $1/day pricing (the studios sued), the compromise being, no truly new stuff, must wait 30 days.

    The answer to your question, that which blocks what you want to happen, is at the studios and their revenue stream business models...

  31. why doesn't BB have streaming subs? THE STUDIOS by neurocutie · · Score: 1

    "IF BB offered subscription streaming...
    Netflix has poor new release selection..."

    You've answered your own question here... the REASON that BB doesn't offer subscription streaming is that it would have to GIVE UP good new release offerings. And the reason for that is that the STUDIOS will not allow cut rate, unlimited streaming of new releases at a cheap price. If BB offered subscription streaming WITH new releases, the cost would be easily $100/mo or MORE.

    This is the choice... pretty much controlled by the studios, not BB or Netflix. Now maybe BB could do something clever, like old stuff for $10/mo and 4 new ones a month for an add'n $10/mo. Otherwise, this is why DVDs are still relevant, as they are the ONLY way that studios have let consumers view new stuff at the $1-2/view or $10/mo "unlimited" (actually 4-6/mo given mail delays). And Redbox fought a HUGE battle to keep the $1/day pricing (the studios sued), the compromise being, no truly new stuff, must wait 30 days.

    The answer to your question, that which blocks what you want to happen, is at the studios and their revenue stream business models...

  32. But do they accept Bitcoin by bigsexyjoe · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would use Blockbuster if they accepted payment in Bitcoin.

  33. Re:Blockbuster is even more expensive than Netflix by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

    I dropped Netflix mail DVDs after waiting 4 months for a "newish" DVD. The price was OK, but if you can't get anything remotely new, it is not worth it. I recently dropped Netflix streaming as well. Stuff in my queue kept disappearing. A TV series disappeared in the middle of watching a season. The price was OK, but when even the very limited content disappears so quickly and randomly, it is not worth it. That makes it more like watching broadcast without a DVR: catch it while you can because who knows if it will be there tomorrow.

  34. Re:Blockbuster is even more expensive than Netflix by pavon · · Score: 1

    They doesn't make sense. If they don't care about streaming, then they would just cancel it and get the DVD-only option from Netflix. All the subscribers got emails telling them about this new option, so it's not like anyone would be unaware of it.

    The people that only care about streaming or DVDs aren't upset about the recent price changes (or shouldn't be) - their prices decreased compared to when the services had to be combined. It is the people who care about both that are upset, and Blockbuster isn't any cheaper for them. Their DVD plan is more expensive than Netflix. Their streaming is pay-per-view which quickly adds up to be more than Netflix and is almost always more expensive than Amazon's pay-per-view.

    If people switch it is because they think Blockbuster has better service of some sort (probably selection), or just because they are pissed, not because it is cheaper.

  35. Linux Support by ReverendLoki · · Score: 1

    Relatedly, reader assertation asks, "Can anyone suggest a streaming movie service that has a selection comparable to Netfix and will run on a computer using GNU/Linux?"

    Actually, since Roku (and the new Roku2 as I understand) are powered by Linux, then yes, you can stream Netflix on Linux.

    If that doesn't work for you (and I wouldn't be surprised if "buy new hardware" isn't advice you want to follow), it looks like Boxee can run on Ubuntu, and can also stream Netflix. So, now the answer is "yes, but you need to add HTPC software to your computer to do it".

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  36. Distros aversion to DRM has nothing to do with it by rwade · · Score: 1

    Even if someone were to make such service they would immediately get huge backslash for the need of DRM (demanded by copyright owners). Yes, continue to use Linux, I do too. But if you are not willing to come even a little bit forward (like, accepting DRM or closed binaries) don't cry about it when companies don't want to support it.

    Whether it's part of the base Windows distribution or not, a user will end up installing/updating Silverlight or Flash before watching Netflix, Hulu, or youtube.

    The community of *nix users so ideologically averse to proprietary binaries and DRM is very small. I'm sure that any *nix user that wants to use Netflix watch-it-now would set-aside his desire for a fully open-source desktop and install whatever browser plug-ins to get it to work. After all, there are a lot of *nix users out there using proprietary video drivers from nVidia. There's just no real reason not to.

  37. a href is your friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dish Network picked up Blockbuster. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/06/us-blockbuster-dishnetwork-idUSTRE7351VA20110406 [reuters.com] Also note the "Subsidiary of Dish Network" part here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockbuster_Inc [wikipedia.org].

    Make it look like this, please.

  38. It's a math problem by Jim+Hall · · Score: 1

    I'm also a happy Netflix customer, and will remain so - as long as the math works out. For me, it's a math problem: We dropped cable TV a year ago, subscribed to Netflix, and use Amazon Instant Video for current shows.

    The math:

    Cable TV in my area ... about $80 per month, for the channels I'd want to watch.

    Netflix (new price) ... $16 per month. We watch movies and catch up on some TV series (that we didn't watch the first time around) using Netflix. Streaming is great for shows and some movies, but they don't have everything available on streaming, so the "DVD + streaming" plan is a must-have for us.

    That leaves $64 per month to spend on Amazon, before we break even with cable TV.

    TV on Amazon ... $2 per episode. Assume a weekly show gives 4 episodes per month, so $8 per month per show. That works out to 8 shows per month until we break even with the cost of cable TV. That's a lot of TV, and we just don't watch that much TV.

    1. Re:It's a math problem by Jerslan · · Score: 1

      You can also use Hulu Plus for many current shows at another $7.99/month, which would still leave you with 7 shows on top of that from Amazon to break even with spending on Cable.

    2. Re:It's a math problem by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      8 shows/month is a lot of TV? That's obviously a bit more than 1/day.

      You watch VASTLY less TV than others do.

    3. Re:It's a math problem by Jim+Hall · · Score: 1

      8 shows/month is a lot of TV? That's obviously a bit more than 1/day. You watch VASTLY less TV than others do.

      I refer you to earlier in my comment, where I noted that we also watch movies and past seasons of TV via Netflix. So 8 shows of current TV is a lot for us, because we're also watching other stuff.

      That said, we probably do watch less TV than most people. I think we watch 2 hours a night, maybe 3. The rest of the time we talk to one another.

  39. Linux & watching streaming video by wukka · · Score: 1

    I tried Netflix before...I was able to fake the browser User Agent & OS, then Netflix video successfully streamed...perhaps it'll work for Blockbuster or whatever too. I can not remember the Firefox addon I used, perhaps this one...use it until it displays Windows or MAC OS...maybe it'll still fool into streaming. https://code.google.com/p/randomuseragent/ cheers!

    1. Re:Linux & watching streaming video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you didn't. That never happened, stop lying.

  40. Google TV is Android by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    If not Linux, the Android is just fine, too. Practically any HW running Linux can instead run Android. Google TV is Android, and is HW designed for exactly this kind of app. And it's cheap and relatively easy for just TV/movies/websurfing.

    So how about a streaming movie service with as good or better a selection as Netflix (which might be hard, but not impossible)?

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    1. Re:Google TV is Android by Compaqt · · Score: 1

      Speaking of which, is there a .deb or something that you can install in order to be able to run Android on, say, desktop Ubuntu?

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  41. Well.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    https://thepiratebay.org/

    There. All the movies you might want.

  42. Free/Libre Movies at Archive.org by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Informative

    Archive.org has over 2600 feature films in addition to many more other kinds of videos. All public domain, all $free, to their webpage embedded player or download as MPEG4, Ogg Video or WMV.

    Donate to this 501(c)(3) nonprofit and deduct the gift from your taxes.

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    1. Re:Free/Libre Movies at Archive.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there a reason..ANY REASON AT ALL...why people continue to use "Free/Libre?" Did we all suddenly become bilingual?

    2. Re:Free/Libre Movies at Archive.org by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2

      Yes, because in English the word "free" means either "without (important) restriction" as in GPL, and "without paying for it". When you say "free" it's ambiguous whether you mean one, the other, or both. So people continue to use "free/libre" to mean both.

      Evidently you are not keeping up with advances in English, which has many words taken from other languages to indicate meanings more precisely.

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    3. Re:Free/Libre Movies at Archive.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Except they're all films no one wants to watch. And can we please stop saying "free/libre"? Such an obnoxious term.

    4. Re:Free/Libre Movies at Archive.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like you get what you pay for.

  43. All Streaming Services in One GUI? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    How about if we're going the other way, and want all of Netflix, Blockbuster, Amazon Prime streaming subscriptions, even at the crappy total price of all of them per month? Is there a single app that runs on Linux or Android (Google TV) with a consistent GUI that's TV-easy (or close), even if each remote library has its own "style" of presenting titles (but all in-movie controls are the same)? That combo would seem to be worth dropping cable TV, especially when cable TV costs $50+ and doesn't have nearly as much worthwhile (and certainly not on demand) content included at that price.

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    1. Re:All Streaming Services in One GUI? by QuasiSteve · · Score: 1

      Pick up a Roku? Or is the "runs on my Linux" a solid prerequisite? 'cos I think it's torrents for you as far as that goes, I'm afraid.

  44. Streaming not included in blockbuster prices by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you want to "rent" a movie to stream, its $1.99 and up. PER FILM. Or you can "buy" them. If you "rent" a streaming movie, its one of those 24 hour windows. Nice catch, assholes.

    So, it may be $9.99 to have one out at a time, but if you switch to blockbuster and you want to stream video, you are going to pay through the nose. (unless you torrent)

    I'll still stick to Netflix cause for the price you can't beat it.(except for pirating) $7.99 for one disc at a time, compared to $9.99 @ BB, $7.99 for unlimited streaming compared to $1.99 (AND UP) to "rent", after 4 of those I'd be over the price of Netflix and I'd have to keep paying to watch more. No thanks, I watch 2 or 3 episodes of TV shows on Netflix per day, and usually a documentary or a movie 2 or 3 times a week. I'd pay 4 times as much with blockbuster and have to torrent all the TV shows I want to watch, which doesn't sit well with me.

    I'd still say netflix is the much better deal

  45. Can't Find Blockbusters Price! by doodaddy · · Score: 2

    I considered Blockbuster and went to check their prices. When I reached their site, they had a big block teasing Netflix and inviting me to join. I spent 20 minutes trying to find how much it would cost to use Blockbuster. I couldn't do it.

    So while I hope Blockbuster will turn a new leaf, I'm guessing that it wasn't an accident that prices were obscured. Come on Vice Presidents of Big Companies, the rules have changed!

    1. Re:Can't Find Blockbusters Price! by eharvill · · Score: 2

      Umm. Google "Blockbuster" and click the 2nd sponsored ad - here.

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  46. Re:Blockbuster is even more expensive than Netflix by hedwards · · Score: 2

    BB throws in Blurays, PS3, Wii and Xbox 360 discs for that price and if you happen to live next to one of the last dozen BB stores you can exchange your discs there as often as you like.

    On top of that the issue for most folks, myself included, wasn't the cost, it was that the cost was being increased for no particular reason and there wasn't even an attempt to placate the subscriber base. On top of that they made disrespectful comments about how it was only the cost of a couple lattes during a down economy and have so far completely refused to even acknowledge that they insulted their subscribers.

  47. DVR the cooking shows on PBS by tepples · · Score: 1

    i have to pay for the package for the wifes cooking channels

    Can you DVR the cooking shows on your local PBS station? WFWA (the PBS affiliate in Fort Wayne) carries Create TV on a subchannel.

    and to get speedvision network.

    So you pay $50 for Speed.

  48. Online news replaces newspapers, not TV news by tepples · · Score: 1

    My DSL company has a deal with ESPN and I get ESPN3 online

    Does it include Monday Night Football? And how much does a device to watch ESPN3 cost, compared to the monthly rental of a cable box?

    But really what's the point of TV news and it's sensationalism when you can just read news online sooner?

    Because some people don't like to get their news by reading. They want to sit on a sofa and watch, or stand in front of an ironing board and listen, instead of sitting at a computer desk and reading. If they wanted to read, they'd open the newspaper.

    What other live events do you miss?

    Hardball with Chris Matthews, The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell, and The Rachel Maddow Show.

  49. Why hate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what has Netflix done so wrong other than moderately increase the prices after seveal years? Blockbuster's gotta give me something big when I'm perfectly happy where I am.

  50. Re:Blockbuster is even more expensive than Netflix by Xenx · · Score: 0

    I can only speak for what I see. I have two options for my Netflix membership. Streaming for $7.99 or Streaming + DVD for $15.98.

  51. Google+ by wasabii · · Score: 1

    "You'll hate us less than Facebook" seems to be working for Google+.

  52. hulu is the best you're gonna get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "Can anyone suggest a streaming movie service that has a selection comparable to Netflix and will run on a computer using GNU/Linux?"

    Hulu. See here:

    http://www.hulu.com/labs/hulu-desktop-linux

    But that's all you're gonna get. Clearly calling it gnu/linux when it's just linux, shows you're part of the stallman army. No it won't be open sourced. Yes it will be a binary that you'll get.

    This is because of the cluster fuck that linux is with its development tools. There is no standard libraries ever. No version that all distros stick with. That's why all of them have vast repositories of software that they need to compile for their distro. You can't ever compile once and give that out.

    You wanted choice? Fine. But software development requires some kind of consistency. If you can't provide that, then you get what you get.

  53. not just disney - perspective from a European by QuasiSteve · · Score: 1

    For months I've been reading how great this Netflix thing is, unlimited movies, TV series, for just a few bucks a month, it'll do away with piracy, blabla.

    So I arrive at a place that has Netflix, through a Roku box - quite nice, and find that the movie selection is... well it's a bit like U.S. TV channels isn't it? There's hundreds of titles, but none of them you feel like watching at the time.

    If I'm lucky, the title is available through Amazon - and preferably in SD because the HD prices are ridiculous for renting - but more often than not, it's not there either.

    Don't get me wrong, I didn't expect every single title listed on IMDB to be available on demand via Netflix (how cool would that be, though?), but right now for example they offer X-Men 3, but not X-Men 1/2. Cube 2 is on there, but not the original nor the later prequel. All Star Trek series are on there, but not DS9 (news articles announcing Trek coming to Netflix included DS9, but apparently that has moved down to October 1st).
    On the other hand, it does have 'gems' like "Run! Bitch Run!" and "Battle of Los Angeles". No, not the already underperforming 'blockbuster' without the "of", the mockbuster version.

    Now it does have good movies on there, but it's hardly the panacea that some comments here have made it out to be.

    I'm not a fan of pirating, but I can see the hiccups in available services that make people a little more inclined to go that route.

    1. Re:not just disney - perspective from a European by goldspider · · Score: 1

      That's EXACTLY the impression I got when I signed up with Netflix. I finally cut the cable (and still don't miss it), and signed up with Netflix, only to be massively underwhelmed by their streaming selection and quality (most movies don't even have 5.1 surround).

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  54. Netflix is coming to Linux, immenantly by brunes69 · · Score: 1

    ... thanks to Chome OS.

    Netflix has comitted support to Chrome OS. Chrome OS is simply Linux. In fact there is a Netflix Chrome plugin floating around in the wild right now that supposedly works.

  55. amazon.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    amazon.com streaming works just fine on Linux. And the selection is massive. It is not as cheap as netflix, though.

  56. WGA also stands for We Get Audited by tepples · · Score: 1

    Microsoft has been using background processes to audit home users since day one of Windows Genuine Advantage.

  57. Re:Blockbuster is even more expensive than Netflix by Belial6 · · Score: 1

    Netflix does not throttle. They never have throttled. The reports of "throttling" by Netflix were universally people using a definition for "throttle" that does not exist in the English language.

    If you want to see throttling. Sign up for Gamefly.

  58. Zediva by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Zediva provides current movies for $1.99 or 10 for $10. Uses Adobe Flash. Works on Linux and everything that is supported by Flash. Quality is ok but not great.

    It's not all you can eat like Netflix, but the movie selection is comparable to a Redbox as are the prices.

    http://www.zediva.com
    Link without waitlist for up to 10 people. However, I get up to 10 free movies if it is used by 10 people.
    http://www.zediva.com/user/register/UgtMeX4btz

  59. New Releases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Granted, I'm not a Netflix user, but what's the big deal about new releases? What fraction of all the movies you might want to ever see, are new? As a percentage of all the good movies ever made, it's barely worth thinking about. Seems to me, that by the time a new movie actually gets to the front of your queue, it won't be new anymore.

    I'm not saying there won't be anything in 2011 worth watching, just that by the time you finish watching the best movies of 2008, it'll be 2014, and 2011 movies won't be new releases anymore.

    To put it another way, you mentioned what your idea of a friday night isn't. So what is it? Imagine it. Picture it in your head. There you are, a bottle of your favorite beer in your hand, your lady is waiting for you to recover for another BJ, your dog is behaving in a calm submissive state, your enemies are all dead (and with their final screams, they knew their doom came by your hand, and that they had been wrong and you had been right), your kid came home with a report card of straight As, it's raining donuts outside, and you won the lottery and quit your job, so every night is friday night. And you're watching 2011's best movie, having a great time. Now that's a friday night. Pan the image over a little, and notice the calendar on the wall. It says July 2014. Did the image suddenly become less enjoyable?

  60. Uninformed Consumer Syndrome by helios17 · · Score: 1

    From what I see, people who still rent at only blockbuster are the ones that get their computer and tech advice from Best Buy/Geek Squad. There is always a market niche for the uniformed.

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  61. Linux Movie & TV Sites by protektor · · Score: 1

    Yes you can get several options for Linux. The first point about not having DRM support on Linux is complete crap. The idea that Linux users won't pay for closed source programs is also complete and total crap that people just make up with no evidence to support it. If you have any doubt about that look at the Humble Indie Bundle and see how Linux users pay more per user for closed source games than Linux or Mac by a large percentage. There are multiple set top boxes running Linux that offer DRM movie and video streaming without any problems. So it isn't an issue of a technical problem. It's an issue of a political one with companies. You have Roku, Tivo, Neuros, Boxee, MeeGo, Videoscape, WD Live TV and the list just keeps on going. So clearly streaming movies/video even DRM videos on Linux is possible and is done all the time.

    If you want to look at your current options under Linux. You can look at Hulu, Hulu Plus, Crackle, YouTube Movie rentals, WB tv show site, Slash Control, Veoh, CBS, NBC, ABC, TNT, Zediva, SyFy, Cartoon Network, South Park, usanetwork.com, tvland.com, jaman.com, Fear.net, PBS Frontline, Uncle Earl's Classic Television, Shocker Internet Drive-In, mevio.com, mylifetime.com, Free Film Source, MGM.com, asiapacificfilms.com, current.com, movieflix.com, cinemanow.com, joost.com, truveo.com, vudu.com, documentarystorm.com, blinkbox.com, mubi.com, ireel.com, and memocast.com just to name a few of the options out there.

  62. amazon prime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    amazon prime ~ $80/year has a fairly good selection (not as much as netflix) and works fine in Linux. It also gives you free second day shipping on most of the stuff shipped by amazon.

  63. Wrong Owner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Blockbuster was recently purchased by Dish Network, not DirectTV.

    http://investor.echostar.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=562197

  64. Is renting movies online also for suckers? by tepples · · Score: 1

    paying for operating systems is for suckers.

    Now back to the subject of the article: Is renting movies online also for suckers? Because Netflix chooses not to serve users of free PC operating systems, in either sense of the word free.

    1. Re:Is renting movies online also for suckers? by Eponymous+Hero · · Score: 1

      netflix streams movies to my cracked copy of windows xp just fine. i don't know what you're talking about. i'll test the linux assertion though. i've never tried to stream movies on my linux netbook, that's not what i use it for.

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    2. Re:Is renting movies online also for suckers? by tepples · · Score: 1

      netflix streams movies to my cracked copy of windows xp just fine.

      In that case it's a $750 to $30,000 copy of Windows XP.

    3. Re:Is renting movies online also for suckers? by Eponymous+Hero · · Score: 1

      actually it was $free.99. 2600 magazine explained how to create your own self-validating copy of winxp about a decade ago. as i said above, i have never paid for an operating system.

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  65. Who's pushing the DRM? Netflix, actually.... by Rozzin · · Score: 1

    It doesn't matter to Netflix, it matters to media companies, and if you want to make their content available you have to play by their rules.

    Netflix was the one demanding DRM for `Sita Sings the Blues', which ultimately kept the film out of the `on demand' line-up even though it's in Netflix's DVD-rental library.

    When Netflix approached the author (and copyright-holder) and asked for a streaming deal, the response they got was `yes, but only if there's no DRM'. Netflix wouldn't budge.

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