.au isn't the only one with problems. Consider this traceroute from Toronto back to the IP at step 1...
traceroute to 210.8.36.1 (210.8.36.1), 48 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 ica-gw1.tor2.uunet.ca (205.150.154.41) 132 ms 209.167.167.253 (209.167.167.253) 415 ms 74 ms
2 152.63.129.85 (152.63.129.85) 400 ms 364 ms 368 ms
3 295.ATM2-0.TR1.TOR2.ALTER.NET (152.63.128.42) 97 ms 64 ms 64 ms
4 137.at-7-3-0.TR1.DCA8.ALTER.NET (146.188.141.209) 168 ms 119 ms 85 ms
5 197.at-4-0-0.XR1.TCO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.32.193) 501 ms 510 ms 458 ms
6 193.ATM11-0-0.GW1.DCA3.ALTER.NET (146.188.161.61) 90 ms 93 ms 89 ms
7 Teleglobe-DC2-gw.customer.ALTER.NET (157.130.39.90) 101 ms 105 ms 101 ms
8 if-3-0.core1.Washington.Teleglobe.net (207.45.221.226) 99 ms 97 ms 93 ms
9 if-1-0.core2.Newark.Teleglobe.net (64.86.80.21) 101 ms 118 ms 102 ms
10 if-9-1.core2.NewYork.Teleglobe.net (207.45.223.194) 99 ms 150 ms 115 ms
11 if-3-0.core1.Scarborough.Teleglobe.net (207.45.222.106) 542 ms 526 ms 561 ms
12 if-1-2.core1.Burnaby.Teleglobe.net (207.45.223.89) 632 ms 628 ms 556 ms
13 if-1-0.core2.LakeCowichan.Teleglobe.net (207.45.223.174) 196 ms 179 ms 185 ms
14 if-11-0-0.bb3.LakeCowichan.Teleglobe.net (207.45.222.110) 260 ms 346 ms 225 ms
15 FastEthernet0-0-0.pad21.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.13.69) 496 ms 550 ms 510 ms
16 GigabitEthernet5-0.pad-gw1.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.13.66) 510 ms 498 ms 526 ms
17 FastEthernet0-0-0.pad-core2.Sydney.telstra.net (139.130.249.227) 898 ms 826 ms 933 ms
18 GigabitEthernet5-0-0.chw-core1.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.129) 1241 ms 1062 ms 1146 ms
19 GigabitEthernet5-0.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.13.54) 1141 ms 1095 ms 1138 ms
20 Pos4-0.exi-core1.Melbourne.telstra.net (203.50.6.18) 1104 ms 1074 ms 1187 ms
21 GigabitEthernet6-0.lon-core3.Melbourne.telstra.ne (203.50.6.153) 619 ms 723 ms 691 ms
22 FastEthernet0-0-0.lon6.Melbourne.telstra.net (139.130.239.232) 1277 ms 766 ms 676 ms
23 consat1.lnk.telstra.net (139.130.49.178) 744 ms 696 ms 679 ms
24 atm6-1-0-2.bdr1.ade.connect.com.au (203.63.112.70) 630 ms 648 ms 655 ms
25 fastethernet0-0.cor2.ade.connect.com.au (203.63.113.66) 615 ms 735 ms 687 ms
26 jas22981-3.gw.connect.com.au (203.63.119.241) 709 ms 712 ms 844 ms
Basically, tunnels through Toronto a bit (understandable), to the United States (also understandable, North-South pipes (to the US) are _generally_ larger in Canada than East-West ones). Then the surprise: it comes BACK to Toronto (Scarborough) and thence across Canada to the west Coast (Burnaby), and finally on a fairly tolerable Sydney-Melbourne-Adelaide routing.
Depending on the ISP du jour, packets from my home machine to a machine at work (about 4.5 km straightline distance) get routed through Chicago and/or West Orange. Or used to. I think they finally resurrected the Toronto peering point that had died a miserable death a while back.
If they do try this trick, I imagine it'll backfire considerably. By having to expose their source for J++' (under the GPL), they'll expose valuable information about the hidden calls used to make it dependent on windows, as well as give other information about those undocumented features. Give a good hand to Wine, as well as to those simply trying to get the J++' to work on other OSen.
What's the difference between taking a cabinet a carpenter slaved over for weeks and code a programmer slaved over.
If someone takes the cabinet from the carpenter, the carpenter no longer has the use of the cabinet. When someone copies a program, the author still has the use of the program.
(See other earlier posts on finite resources)
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I haven't found the right one yet
I've tried quite a few, and found IceWM to be the closest. It seemed easy enough to get it to do the right things and to be told not to get in the way of things like the gnome panel, etc. It's been stable for me, and hasn't caused any problems.
Sawmill also showed a lot of promise, but the versions I looked at (a way back) weren't quite ready for daily use.
I have Gnome on one machine, and KDE on another. I find myself tending towards Gnome, but KDE is quite acceptable. The important point is: I can WORK with either.
If the "I got here first" chest-beating posture becomes irrelevant, so will the cachet of one 'stealing' the idea and 'claiming' that one 'got there first'.
The emphasis (perhaps subtly) changes from "here's an idea and worship me for it (offering appropriate sacrifices) because I have control of it" to "here's an idea and here's what I'm doing with it".
The bablefish takes a peice of text and changes the language that it is written in. The content, and more importantly, the context of the message is unchanged.
You've apparently have never seen a Babelfish translation then.:)
As you say, Andover probably doesn't need your money.
But others do.
Since you're willing to give it, why not give it to the EFF so they have it available when someone without the funds needs support in this kind of situation?
(I have no affiliation with the EFF aside from being a member and noting (sadly) that there is a need for such an organization)
Hmmm. The SSDS page is also useful. I'm not sure why MS needs to build a big deal out of it.
Oh wait, I think I do, but I'm not going to get on that topic today (and no, it's not a MS rant, but more generally. If you were at CFP and saw Diffie's address, you'll have some idea).
Making it to *Mars* would have a dramatic effect on interstellar travel. This sounds great but imagine how much we could learn if only we could put some of these arm-chair Jean Luc Picard's in space!
I can see the papers now: "Sudden Decompression and Its Effects on Sedentary Viewers of Science Fiction Television".
Really. I don't see it pushing the planet around on its axis, do you? Or around the sun for that matter. I learned in school that this was all happening before humans were walking on the Earth. Obviously this was all a conspiracy by those nasty teachers.
Either that, or you have a non-literal interpretation of 'literally'.
(cue Monty Python) You can keep your Marxist ways For it's only just a phase Accountancy makes the world go 'round.
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This definitely sounds like a candidate for the We Love the SCO Information Minister page.
I like the notion of having words for this concept!
How about "balanced" then?
You honestly think "New Labour" is a major shift to the left?
Not quite what you're looking for, but a start: GTKSwing.
Actually, better yet is Java-Gnome.
Amazing what you can find on Google with a couple of well chosen keywords, isn't it?
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It appears to have its head screwed on correctly when considering what to do where.
Of course, now people will complain about CORBA.
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traceroute to 210.8.36.1 (210.8.36.1), 48 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 ica-gw1.tor2.uunet.ca (205.150.154.41) 132 ms 209.167.167.253 (209.167.167.253) 415 ms 74 ms
2 152.63.129.85 (152.63.129.85) 400 ms 364 ms 368 ms
3 295.ATM2-0.TR1.TOR2.ALTER.NET (152.63.128.42) 97 ms 64 ms 64 ms
4 137.at-7-3-0.TR1.DCA8.ALTER.NET (146.188.141.209) 168 ms 119 ms 85 ms
5 197.at-4-0-0.XR1.TCO1.ALTER.NET (152.63.32.193) 501 ms 510 ms 458 ms
6 193.ATM11-0-0.GW1.DCA3.ALTER.NET (146.188.161.61) 90 ms 93 ms 89 ms
7 Teleglobe-DC2-gw.customer.ALTER.NET (157.130.39.90) 101 ms 105 ms 101 ms
8 if-3-0.core1.Washington.Teleglobe.net (207.45.221.226) 99 ms 97 ms 93 ms
9 if-1-0.core2.Newark.Teleglobe.net (64.86.80.21) 101 ms 118 ms 102 ms
10 if-9-1.core2.NewYork.Teleglobe.net (207.45.223.194) 99 ms 150 ms 115 ms
11 if-3-0.core1.Scarborough.Teleglobe.net (207.45.222.106) 542 ms 526 ms 561 ms
12 if-1-2.core1.Burnaby.Teleglobe.net (207.45.223.89) 632 ms 628 ms 556 ms
13 if-1-0.core2.LakeCowichan.Teleglobe.net (207.45.223.174) 196 ms 179 ms 185 ms
14 if-11-0-0.bb3.LakeCowichan.Teleglobe.net (207.45.222.110) 260 ms 346 ms 225 ms
15 FastEthernet0-0-0.pad21.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.13.69) 496 ms 550 ms 510 ms
16 GigabitEthernet5-0.pad-gw1.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.13.66) 510 ms 498 ms 526 ms
17 FastEthernet0-0-0.pad-core2.Sydney.telstra.net (139.130.249.227) 898 ms 826 ms 933 ms
18 GigabitEthernet5-0-0.chw-core1.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.6.129) 1241 ms 1062 ms 1146 ms
19 GigabitEthernet5-0.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net (203.50.13.54) 1141 ms 1095 ms 1138 ms
20 Pos4-0.exi-core1.Melbourne.telstra.net (203.50.6.18) 1104 ms 1074 ms 1187 ms
21 GigabitEthernet6-0.lon-core3.Melbourne.telstra.ne (203.50.6.153) 619 ms 723 ms 691 ms
22 FastEthernet0-0-0.lon6.Melbourne.telstra.net (139.130.239.232) 1277 ms 766 ms 676 ms
23 consat1.lnk.telstra.net (139.130.49.178) 744 ms 696 ms 679 ms
24 atm6-1-0-2.bdr1.ade.connect.com.au (203.63.112.70) 630 ms 648 ms 655 ms
25 fastethernet0-0.cor2.ade.connect.com.au (203.63.113.66) 615 ms 735 ms 687 ms
26 jas22981-3.gw.connect.com.au (203.63.119.241) 709 ms 712 ms 844 ms
Basically, tunnels through Toronto a bit (understandable), to the United States (also understandable, North-South pipes (to the US) are _generally_ larger in Canada than East-West ones). Then the surprise: it comes BACK to Toronto (Scarborough) and thence across Canada to the west Coast (Burnaby), and finally on a fairly tolerable Sydney-Melbourne-Adelaide routing.
Depending on the ISP du jour, packets from my home machine to a machine at work (about 4.5 km straightline distance) get routed through Chicago and/or West Orange. Or used to. I think they finally resurrected the Toronto peering point that had died a miserable death a while back.
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What's the difference between taking a cabinet a carpenter slaved over for weeks and code a programmer slaved over.
If someone takes the cabinet from the carpenter, the carpenter no longer has the use of the cabinet. When someone copies a program, the author still has the use of the program.
(See other earlier posts on finite resources)
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I've tried quite a few, and found IceWM to be the closest. It seemed easy enough to get it to do the right things and to be told not to get in the way of things like the gnome panel, etc. It's been stable for me, and hasn't caused any problems.
Sawmill also showed a lot of promise, but the versions I looked at (a way back) weren't quite ready for daily use.
I have Gnome on one machine, and KDE on another. I find myself tending towards Gnome, but KDE is quite acceptable. The important point is: I can WORK with either.
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From APOD...
Considerably more than 13.
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The emphasis (perhaps subtly) changes from "here's an idea and worship me for it (offering appropriate sacrifices) because I have control of it" to "here's an idea and here's what I'm doing with it".
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You've apparently have never seen a Babelfish translation then.
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But others do.
Since you're willing to give it, why not give it to the EFF so they have it available when someone without the funds needs support in this kind of situation?
(I have no affiliation with the EFF aside from being a member and noting (sadly) that there is a need for such an organization)
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(with apologies to Monty Python)
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Oh wait, I think I do, but I'm not going to get on that topic today (and no, it's not a MS rant, but more generally. If you were at CFP and saw Diffie's address, you'll have some idea).
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I can see the papers now: "Sudden Decompression and Its Effects on Sedentary Viewers of Science Fiction Television".
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DARWIN from Europe, and Kepler another proposal from the US.
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And this is a pretty good job?
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Really. I don't see it pushing the planet around on its axis, do you? Or around the sun for that matter. I learned in school that this was all happening before humans were walking on the Earth. Obviously this was all a conspiracy by those nasty teachers.
Either that, or you have a non-literal interpretation of 'literally'.
(cue Monty Python)
You can keep your Marxist ways
For it's only just a phase
Accountancy makes the world go 'round.
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Putty (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putt
Not perfect, but good.
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