You may have missed the part where it said that this is a development release. Also, installing a development release of the next Windows might brick your system AND get you sued.;-)
He is an alarmist. But his alarmism tends to generate a lot of discussion on whatever subjects seem to set him off. For that reason alone, I hope he never changes.
Well, it's not. No, it's not supposed to replace those applications where you put in your credit card info or social security number (whatever the hell that is). It might claim that it can but why would you do that?
Lots of sensible people would heartily agree. Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who are not sensible as well. Of course, using it as a mirror for your open source development or other collaborations is great. But it could very easily turn into another www.facebook.com, where users don't realize how much personal or sensitive info they're putting out until after they get burned by it.
I do hope Cloud Computing does take off to some degree, but only as long as users will educate themselves about what it is and what it's used for first. And also as long as nobody comes to depend on it too much.
I disagree. My understanding of "net neutrality" is that all packets will be treated identically, regardless of where they came from, or where they are going. It has nothing to do with providing cheap service. It's about not censoring access (such as Comcast giving nbc.com packets low priority).
I know what you mean, there's many different definitions of NN. Yours is essentially the same as mine, if a bit more specific (which is good). When I say free, I meant more free as in speech; it'd be kind of silly to make ISPs non-profit organizations.
It's just the gatekeepers. The ISPs become gatekeepers to the Internet. If you don't deal with the ISPs directly, then it's your local Internet Cafe or Library etc; that become gatekeepers. My point is, NN should be about limiting the number of gatekeepers to deal with, giving everybody one Internet, not just several different versions of the Internet depending on who you're paying or not paying. The Internet Cafe in one city should give you the same Internet as you would get from a home connection in a different city, and so on.
I like your definition of NN, but not all packets are treated equally. Depending on their size and nature, they will be treated different, and not because of third party interference. Whether this actually implies anything about the feasability of NN remains to be seen.
The problem is that this idea undermines one of the main points of net neutrality, to make as many parts of the Internet as free and easily accessible as others.
I agree that P2P is holding us back, and unfortunatley current P2P systems aren't "smart" enough to prefer local connections over long distance ones (which might actually be a trivial fix, but I don't know enough about the inner workings of Bittorrent and others.
Plus, it kind of fits with one of the main truths of the Internet's capacity; demand will always meet or exceed availablity.
I'm only be rated as off topic because this board is filled with Linux zealots...
You were probably modded down because it wasn't quite clear what you meant in your first post. It looked like you were referring to Vista as a 'client', but upon re-reading it's clear that you're talking about its mail client.
I'm kind of hopeful that this could also mean easier access to third-party apps for Windows users. More Internet-based distribution could lead to more variety, especially if it was a repository system similar to apt-get or pacman. But then again, we are talking about Microsoft. If they make any sort of gesture towards any third-party open source apps, it would likely be an extend-embrace-extinguish scenario. Still, it's nice to dream.
I for one welcome this chance for other spam vendors to engage in a little competition. It will be a wholly new playing field if/when Intercage re-emerges online, after previously holding a dominant position. Hopefully the free-market nature of Internet business will only encourage the production of more quality spam. The recipients of spam can only benefit from this new development.
Yeah, most of the things that have been removed have just been either repetetive information or difficult sounding promises (ie: being able to protect your kids and your rights at the same time.)
You know, you can call them Americans. Strictly speaking, everyone in the western hemisphere is a person from the Americas, but only people from the United States are called Americans. Everyone else would just be offended by the implications of being called American;-)
Well, it's interesting nonetheless. Otherwise, I simply wouldn't have posted that link, Sherlock;-)
And if you must know, I've spent the better part of an hour, "actually" reading different articles on that blog, although now I'm just getting off-topic.
Good point, but there would also be great advantages in forking OpenGL if you were making a specialist derivative for a particular card, (which always would have the possibility of being reintroduced into upstream OpenGL).
Strictly speaking, the games themselves would still be proprietary. But I've never met a free software advocate who had very strong principles against closed source games.
But this is very good news for free games and compositing managers. Hopefully it will also encourage more development and patches on OpenGL, as well; which helps everyone and not just the people building a free system.
Slashdot Mirror
You have nothing to worry about, this article is referring to a development release of Linux, you won't see it in a normal distro...
**braces himself for the imminent whoosh
Its threads like these that absolutely cement /.'s place as the worlds dominant UBER NERD site.
ummm... good?
Just buy a copy of Windows and get on with it.
You may have missed the part where it said that this is a development release. Also, installing a development release of the next Windows might brick your system AND get you sued. ;-)
He is an alarmist. But his alarmism tends to generate a lot of discussion on whatever subjects seem to set him off. For that reason alone, I hope he never changes.
If you are a parent, please talk to your children about this!
mod parent up ;-)
Well, it's not. No, it's not supposed to replace those applications where you put in your credit card info or social security number (whatever the hell that is). It might claim that it can but why would you do that?
Lots of sensible people would heartily agree. Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who are not sensible as well. Of course, using it as a mirror for your open source development or other collaborations is great. But it could very easily turn into another www.facebook.com, where users don't realize how much personal or sensitive info they're putting out until after they get burned by it.
I do hope Cloud Computing does take off to some degree, but only as long as users will educate themselves about what it is and what it's used for first. And also as long as nobody comes to depend on it too much.
I disagree. My understanding of "net neutrality" is that all packets will be treated identically, regardless of where they came from, or where they are going. It has nothing to do with providing cheap service. It's about not censoring access (such as Comcast giving nbc.com packets low priority).
I know what you mean, there's many different definitions of NN. Yours is essentially the same as mine, if a bit more specific (which is good). When I say free, I meant more free as in speech; it'd be kind of silly to make ISPs non-profit organizations.
It's just the gatekeepers. The ISPs become gatekeepers to the Internet. If you don't deal with the ISPs directly, then it's your local Internet Cafe or Library etc; that become gatekeepers. My point is, NN should be about limiting the number of gatekeepers to deal with, giving everybody one Internet, not just several different versions of the Internet depending on who you're paying or not paying. The Internet Cafe in one city should give you the same Internet as you would get from a home connection in a different city, and so on.
I like your definition of NN, but not all packets are treated equally. Depending on their size and nature, they will be treated different, and not because of third party interference. Whether this actually implies anything about the feasability of NN remains to be seen.
wow, thank you for sharing that article, it was pretty awesome.
The problem is that this idea undermines one of the main points of net neutrality, to make as many parts of the Internet as free and easily accessible as others.
I agree that P2P is holding us back, and unfortunatley current P2P systems aren't "smart" enough to prefer local connections over long distance ones (which might actually be a trivial fix, but I don't know enough about the inner workings of Bittorrent and others.
Plus, it kind of fits with one of the main truths of the Internet's capacity; demand will always meet or exceed availablity.
Say, friend, you got any more of that good sassparilla?
I'm only be rated as off topic because this board is filled with Linux zealots...
You were probably modded down because it wasn't quite clear what you meant in your first post. It looked like you were referring to Vista as a 'client', but upon re-reading it's clear that you're talking about its mail client.
I'm kind of hopeful that this could also mean easier access to third-party apps for Windows users. More Internet-based distribution could lead to more variety, especially if it was a repository system similar to apt-get or pacman. But then again, we are talking about Microsoft. If they make any sort of gesture towards any third-party open source apps, it would likely be an extend-embrace-extinguish scenario. Still, it's nice to dream.
I have no karma threshold. Does that count?
I for one welcome this chance for other spam vendors to engage in a little competition. It will be a wholly new playing field if/when Intercage re-emerges online, after previously holding a dominant position. Hopefully the free-market nature of Internet business will only encourage the production of more quality spam. The recipients of spam can only benefit from this new development.
Yeah, most of the things that have been removed have just been either repetetive information or difficult sounding promises (ie: being able to protect your kids and your rights at the same time.)
You know, you can call them Americans. Strictly speaking, everyone in the western hemisphere is a person from the Americas, but only people from the United States are called Americans. Everyone else would just be offended by the implications of being called American ;-)
http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=dna&L=0
mod parent up.
If parent is marked flamebait, then I guess Albert Einstein is my favourite troll ever.
Well, it's interesting nonetheless. Otherwise, I simply wouldn't have posted that link, Sherlock ;-)
And if you must know, I've spent the better part of an hour, "actually" reading different articles on that blog, although now I'm just getting off-topic.
I must admit, these trollish little first posts do make good place holders.
TFA should probably be http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7621013.stm. Interestingly enough, it makes use of the increasingly ubiquitous "vet".
Right on, but also with the previously lisence-encumbered bits. Heck, they might merge some of those bits into ES as well.
Actually, that's just in case you have transparency turned on. And if the opacity is less than 50%, then you need more than two polygons.
Good point, but there would also be great advantages in forking OpenGL if you were making a specialist derivative for a particular card, (which always would have the possibility of being reintroduced into upstream OpenGL).
Strictly speaking, the games themselves would still be proprietary. But I've never met a free software advocate who had very strong principles against closed source games.
But this is very good news for free games and compositing managers. Hopefully it will also encourage more development and patches on OpenGL, as well; which helps everyone and not just the people building a free system.
What are you talking about? Hibernation requires you to draw two large black polygons to cover your screen to save power.
Mwa ha ha, I knew I'd get some more reaction with a false promise of donuts! My evil plan worked.