I'm old and I'll tack my reminiscence onto this thread since Byte was mentioned. I was working at my first job out of college and Byte was delivered to the office each month. It was their serialization of De Re Atari that convinced me to buy an Atari 800. Before I ever even owned the machine, I had read a thorough explanation of display lists, player-missile graphics, and so on. I bought my system from a tiny hole-in-the-wall Mom & Pop shop where I eventually ended up working part time to be able to afford more stuff (mostly Infocom games, but that's another story). Like many of my approximate age, I cut my teeth on 6502 assembler, and I bought the DOS source code listing book that was available. I spent hours poring over that code.
I still have the 800 tucked into a closet in a back room, I should hook it all up and see what happens...
Meh. Along the same lines as what I said in the COBOL thread yesterday, your compiled code probably contains a lot of whatever JMP gets to be at the machine code level, and that's nothing but a goto spelled differently.
Anything can be used incorrectly and/or incomprehesibly, even comments. I'd rather just get my programs to work and be maintainable than articially limit my toolbox.
Why not? Ultimately, the compiler is going to produce the machine language equivalent of a goto anyway, so what difference does it make if you have to hand code the initialize, test, iterate portions of a loop or if the language has it all packaged up for you?
Granted it's been over 20 years since I worked on a COBOL program, but the last guy I worked for had developed some pretty decent coding standards that let us use a fair amount of structure in our programs. It wasn't perfect, but I know for a fact that the number of late night phone calls I got went way down after learning to do it George's way.
It was used to change to target of a GOTO to something completely different, and that change would happen during program execution, typically in some convoluted nested IF statement. Thus, reading a program is only half the battle.
ALTER has long been obsolete in various of the later COBOL specifications, but given what we've heard about the California codebase, it could very well be in there.
I was under the impression that most of those airphones were being decommissioned because they weren't making any money to begin with. However, looks like Verizon just sold that business, and perhaps the new owner, JetBlue's LiveTV, will do something interesting.
I'm not sure where you got your list from, but I noticed it leaves off Webb (D-VA), and further searching reveals it doesn't seem to match up with the Senate's own records at all.
Although TFS is poorly written (hello, I must be new here), the "two-episode Watchmen series" mentioned would be the subsequently discussed games, not the movie, of which there will be just one. Not counting the Black Freighter stuff, noted elsewhere.
My only worry at this point is that they've spent so much time and money recreating the look that they will have forgotten the story.
> The registration process is very easy, and it will take you only a couple of minutes
Not really anything more to say than that. They provide a useful free product. The synthesized voice telling me "virus DAtabase has been UP DAted" makes me smile.
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This isn't an End User License Agreement, it's a license agreement. For, ummmm, the end users.
You might want to check on just who owns who up there in Canada, eh.
Can you tell the difference between the editor who posted an item and the text sent in by the submitter? CrackedButter is an idiot.
Me too! </aol>
But it was 1968. And I was all set to go with the "insensitive clod" meme.
Ah memories . . . slamming the phone down into an acoustic coupler, typing programs in on a model 33 Teletype, saving them on yellow paper tape . . .
> "I have here a coffee mug. It gets all of the internet [for my particular definition of all of the internet]".
I'll bet your coffee mug runs Java, though, something the iPhone can't do.
Go ahead and pick one host over the other, but the jokes on MST3K were always written by a large staff, including head writer Mike Nelson.
And Mike, Bill Corbett and Kevin Murphy are also working on The Film Crew.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have hear the rare double-whoosh. Please, no flash photography.
I'm old and I'll tack my reminiscence onto this thread since Byte was mentioned. I was working at my first job out of college and Byte was delivered to the office each month. It was their serialization of De Re Atari that convinced me to buy an Atari 800. Before I ever even owned the machine, I had read a thorough explanation of display lists, player-missile graphics, and so on. I bought my system from a tiny hole-in-the-wall Mom & Pop shop where I eventually ended up working part time to be able to afford more stuff (mostly Infocom games, but that's another story). Like many of my approximate age, I cut my teeth on 6502 assembler, and I bought the DOS source code listing book that was available. I spent hours poring over that code.
I still have the 800 tucked into a closet in a back room, I should hook it all up and see what happens...
Meh. Along the same lines as what I said in the COBOL thread yesterday, your compiled code probably contains a lot of whatever JMP gets to be at the machine code level, and that's nothing but a goto spelled differently.
Anything can be used incorrectly and/or incomprehesibly, even comments. I'd rather just get my programs to work and be maintainable than articially limit my toolbox.
> Because obviously everyone has to nick-pick every fact...
Umm, yeah, that would be "nit-pick".
> Unless you consider GOTO a loop constructor...
Why not? Ultimately, the compiler is going to produce the machine language equivalent of a goto anyway, so what difference does it make if you have to hand code the initialize, test, iterate portions of a loop or if the language has it all packaged up for you?
Granted it's been over 20 years since I worked on a COBOL program, but the last guy I worked for had developed some pretty decent coding standards that let us use a fair amount of structure in our programs. It wasn't perfect, but I know for a fact that the number of late night phone calls I got went way down after learning to do it George's way.
One word -- one keyword, actually -- ALTER.
It was used to change to target of a GOTO to something completely different, and that change would happen during program execution, typically in some convoluted nested IF statement. Thus, reading a program is only half the battle.
ALTER has long been obsolete in various of the later COBOL specifications, but given what we've heard about the California codebase, it could very well be in there.
Akshully, it looks fine in IE6 on XP pro. (I'm at work, I don't have a choice!!!!)
University of Maryland mascot = Terrapin.
Terrapin = Turtle.
World's first submarine used in battle = Turtle
QED.
I was under the impression that most of those airphones were being decommissioned because they weren't making any money to begin with. However, looks like Verizon just sold that business, and perhaps the new owner, JetBlue's LiveTV, will do something interesting.
I always got a chuckle out of alt.support.jockstrap
Less filling.
> ['windscreen' is what you across the pond call the 'windshield']
Oh thank god, I can finally understand that Depeche Mode song.
I'm not sure where you got your list from, but I noticed it leaves off Webb (D-VA), and further searching reveals it doesn't seem to match up with the Senate's own records at all.
Although TFS is poorly written (hello, I must be new here), the "two-episode Watchmen series" mentioned would be the subsequently discussed games, not the movie, of which there will be just one. Not counting the Black Freighter stuff, noted elsewhere.
My only worry at this point is that they've spent so much time and money recreating the look that they will have forgotten the story.
HTML entities FTW: < becomes <
don't forget the semicolon
There were Mac clones. Then Jobs came back to Apple and killed them off. I don't think they got any significant market share at the time.
> The registration process is very easy, and it will take you only a couple of minutes
Not really anything more to say than that. They provide a useful free product. The synthesized voice telling me "virus DAtabase has been UP DAted" makes me smile.
It's hardly "nagware".
Avast.
It's not just for Talk-Like-A-Pirate Day any more!
My thoughts exactly. Luckily, Brian Krebs at the Washington Post wrote about this in his Security Fix blog.