But nowadays it just seems to be riddled with problems. It crashes constantly. I keep getting weird segfaults from it.
I saw crashes allthetime when I was using the Flash 9 (and later 10) plugin. I replaced it with Gnash and have yet to see an issue.:D
Full disclosure: Gnash 0.8.4 doesn't work for ~50% of the Flash out there. However, if Gnash ever freaks out, it *will* *not* take Firefox down with it... Gnash runs as a separate process that's embedded in the chrome.:D
I don't like having to use extensions for things that use to be configurable but that developers decided to push by disabling that option for the sake of their own agenda.
IDK if you're a software developer. If you are, then I'm sure that you're acutely aware of the significant testing and maintenance burden that additional configurable behaviours add. The core Firefox team cannot possibly maintain and test *everyone's* pet behaviour. It is for this reason that the Extension and Add-on systems were built into Firefox. These systems allow the Firefox team to indirectly support *everyone's* pet behaviour by offloading the testing and maintenance burden to the third-party devs who are willing to take up the cause of marginalized users such as yourself.
I suppose you're suggesting you've never ever made a mistake visiting a site you shouldn't have, or installing something you shouldn't have?
IDK about the PP, but I daresay that I fit this description. Safe computing is not hard, when you put some thought into it.
I also don't accept that "most people" like awesomebar. I've seen no evidence of that whatsoever. Take a look at the complaints all over the net...
Consider us the silent majority who use Awesomebar to get our browsing done faster and get back to work.
You haven't provided one concrete solution to address any of my concerns.
That's 'cause you've already provided the concrete solutions that address your concerns. You have two extensions that -when used in concert- give you the Firefox behaviour that you desire. There's nothing more to be said.
There... things about [Firefox that have]... left me feeling quite bitter about it. I've only reported these things here.
Did you discuss these things in the Firefox IRC channel or mailing lists? If deemed appropriate, did you file bugs against the bad behaviour? If not, then why not?
What's worse is version 1.0 of this tool was great...
It's not hard to ask google about "disabling AwesomeBar". It directs you to resources that tell you just what to do.
Also, you're using a shit-load of hyperbole in this thread... you're coming across as a *really* big whiner. If you're a troll, you're a *really* bad one.
None of this was explained when the upgrade instantly happened.
Wot? A) IIRC, one has *always* been able to disable Firefox's automatic update feature. At the very least, one is required to *restart* Firefox. ii) If you really wanted to know what was in the upgrade, you could have read the Release Notes.
...constantly switching profiles takes time and effort that's essentially wasted.
Must be nice to have an employer that lets you "waste" time with surfing that you'd rather not let your cow-orkers and/or customers see.:)
Isn't it fantastic that you have the OPTION of using Awesomebar since you like it so much?
Yes.
...an address bar that takes up twice as much room as any sane bar needs to.
* Your definition of "sane" seems to be different from mine. * If you actually *used* the Awesomebar, you'd probably want to look into [1] and [2]. (Please don't remind me that you don't want to screw around with Firefox configuration settings. *I* already know this. These links are more for the benefit of those who might come across this thread via google.)
...but I don't understand why upgrading my browser should subject me to this!!!
Create a separate "cow-orker" profile, downgrade, or install one of the add-ons that you mentioned earlier. *Many* of us *really* like the Awesomebar. I'm sorry that you don't. It's a good thing that you have the option to replace it with something that you like better.:D
The only solution is... to install [software]... which is asking a lot for most people (really, I am not kidding, it is asking a lot).
My father has a Zune (one of the flash-memory models). To use the device on a particular machine, one must insert the Zune software disc and install the Zune software on an internet-connected machine. The software *must* call home before use; this installation *can not* happen on an offline machine. Also, one cannot drag and drop media to the Zune, one *must* install the Zune software.
The iPod similarly requires one to install iTunes before using it with a PC. (Granted, this can be an offline install, so yey! for that.)
I would think that most consumers are very familiar with the "Insert the CD and run setup before using this device." step.:)
Great call. If there's one group of people who need a hand in this economic downturn, it's the ISP execs.
I think that you missed it. The government buys up most (all?) of the fiber from the various telcos in the nation, then allows *ANY* ISP to use it, for a nominal fee. (Yanno, much like the power company or the water company operates.)
Some telco ISPs (ATnT, Sprint, etc.) will get a shitload of money out of the deal but -in the end- they'll have to pay the same rate to use the fiber as anyone else.
I've always felt that if you didn't start with either when they were first written in the 70s and kept on with each new version, there is no way to get started.
IDK. I wasn't around for the 70's. I got started with ViM when a respected programmer friend said to me: "This is the best editor in the world and you should use it." At the time, I hadn't used anything but EDIT and Notepad, so I gave it a whirl, figured out how to press the 'i' and ':' keys, and have been using it for more than six years now.
Fucking wow. That's insane. Whaddya want to bet that the cypherpunks who refuse to surrender their passphrases and/or keys to investigators are likely to spend the rest of their lives behind bars?
IOW, if you release a piece of code under CC0 and I use it as a basis to write a program which I then am marketing, you cannot revoke your CC0 designation and stop me from selling my program.
*nods* Licenses are *very* different from promises and covenants.:D
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Errm, make that read: "At the very least, one is required to *restart* Firefox after an update has been applied."
Errm. Replace GUID with UUID in my previous comment. (whoops)
But nowadays it just seems to be riddled with problems. It crashes constantly. I keep getting weird segfaults from it.
I saw crashes allthetime when I was using the Flash 9 (and later 10) plugin. I replaced it with Gnash and have yet to see an issue. :D
Full disclosure: Gnash 0.8.4 doesn't work for ~50% of the Flash out there. However, if Gnash ever freaks out, it *will* *not* take Firefox down with it... Gnash runs as a separate process that's embedded in the chrome. :D
The "encryption" is a GUID. In theory, each extension and add-on has its own GUID. Does this search help you narrow down the faulty component?
google.com/search?q=Failed+to+load+XPCOM+component%3A+{DDC359D1-844A-42a7-9AA1-88A850A938A8}
(Sorry for omitting the protocol part of the URL. Slashdot's linkifier doesn't know WTF to do with an open curly-brace.)
I don't like having to use extensions for things that use to be configurable but that developers decided to push by disabling that option for the sake of their own agenda.
IDK if you're a software developer. If you are, then I'm sure that you're acutely aware of the significant testing and maintenance burden that additional configurable behaviours add.
The core Firefox team cannot possibly maintain and test *everyone's* pet behaviour. It is for this reason that the Extension and Add-on systems were built into Firefox. These systems allow the Firefox team to indirectly support *everyone's* pet behaviour by offloading the testing and maintenance burden to the third-party devs who are willing to take up the cause of marginalized users such as yourself.
I suppose you're suggesting you've never ever made a mistake visiting a site you shouldn't have, or installing something you shouldn't have?
IDK about the PP, but I daresay that I fit this description. Safe computing is not hard, when you put some thought into it.
I also don't accept that "most people" like awesomebar. I've seen no evidence of that whatsoever. Take a look at the complaints all over the net...
Consider us the silent majority who use Awesomebar to get our browsing done faster and get back to work.
You haven't provided one concrete solution to address any of my concerns.
That's 'cause you've already provided the concrete solutions that address your concerns. You have two extensions that -when used in concert- give you the Firefox behaviour that you desire. There's nothing more to be said.
There ... things about [Firefox that have] ... left me feeling quite bitter about it. I've only reported these things here.
Did you discuss these things in the Firefox IRC channel or mailing lists? If deemed appropriate, did you file bugs against the bad behaviour? If not, then why not?
What's worse is version 1.0 of this tool was great...
Why aren't you still using Firefox 1.0? Do you not know where to go to download a copy?
Look here:
ftp://archive.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/
But before you *use* any of those browsers, be sure to read this:
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/README
Is there anything more that we can do for you tonight, sir?
Not easy solutions. Hard to come by workarounds.
It's not hard to ask google about "disabling AwesomeBar". It directs you to resources that tell you just what to do.
Also, you're using a shit-load of hyperbole in this thread... you're coming across as a *really* big whiner. If you're a troll, you're a *really* bad one.
None of this was explained when the upgrade instantly happened.
Wot?
A) IIRC, one has *always* been able to disable Firefox's automatic update feature. At the very least, one is required to *restart* Firefox.
ii) If you really wanted to know what was in the upgrade, you could have read the Release Notes.
If you don't need an account, they can't make you agree to terms of service, then how can they enforce them?
By buying off a couple of well-placed judges.
Do you also have satellite internet? If not, I've found the "Graphical Forecasts" and CONUS products at weather.org to be *really* good.
I see no way they could replicated this without FAT support
Agreed. Sounds like the TomTom folks would have to include installation media if they stopped using FAT inside their devices.
...constantly switching profiles takes time and effort that's essentially wasted.
Must be nice to have an employer that lets you "waste" time with surfing that you'd rather not let your cow-orkers and/or customers see. :)
Isn't it fantastic that you have the OPTION of using Awesomebar since you like it so much?
Yes.
...an address bar that takes up twice as much room as any sane bar needs to.
* Your definition of "sane" seems to be different from mine.
* If you actually *used* the Awesomebar, you'd probably want to look into [1] and [2]. (Please don't remind me that you don't want to screw around with Firefox configuration settings. *I* already know this. These links are more for the benefit of those who might come across this thread via google.)
[1] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.urlbar.maxRichResults
[2] http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=685365
...but I don't understand why upgrading my browser should subject me to this!!!
Create a separate "cow-orker" profile, downgrade, or install one of the add-ons that you mentioned earlier. *Many* of us *really* like the Awesomebar. I'm sorry that you don't. It's a good thing that you have the option to replace it with something that you like better. :D
Lack of desire, probably. Why the fuck should we waste our time improving MSFT's operating system? :)
The only solution is ... to install [software] ... which is asking a lot for most people (really, I am not kidding, it is asking a lot).
My father has a Zune (one of the flash-memory models). To use the device on a particular machine, one must insert the Zune software disc and install the Zune software on an internet-connected machine. The software *must* call home before use; this installation *can not* happen on an offline machine. Also, one cannot drag and drop media to the Zune, one *must* install the Zune software.
The iPod similarly requires one to install iTunes before using it with a PC. (Granted, this can be an offline install, so yey! for that.)
I would think that most consumers are very familiar with the "Insert the CD and run setup before using this device." step. :)
Windows NT was designed to be portable...
As was Linux. :)
Great call. If there's one group of people who need a hand in this economic downturn, it's the ISP execs.
I think that you missed it.
The government buys up most (all?) of the fiber from the various telcos in the nation, then allows *ANY* ISP to use it, for a nominal fee. (Yanno, much like the power company or the water company operates.)
Some telco ISPs (ATnT, Sprint, etc.) will get a shitload of money out of the deal but -in the end- they'll have to pay the same rate to use the fiber as anyone else.
I've always felt that if you didn't start with either when they were first written in the 70s and kept on with each new version, there is no way to get started.
IDK. I wasn't around for the 70's. I got started with ViM when a respected programmer friend said to me: "This is the best editor in the world and you should use it." At the time, I hadn't used anything but EDIT and Notepad, so I gave it a whirl, figured out how to press the 'i' and ':' keys, and have been using it for more than six years now.
Maaaan. I wish I had mod points right now. :D
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I drink your milkshake. I drink it up!
Am I missing anything?
They (probably) don't yet own the utilities that provide the power to their equipment!
Fucking wow. That's insane.
Whaddya want to bet that the cypherpunks who refuse to surrender their passphrases and/or keys to investigators are likely to spend the rest of their lives behind bars?
What's the make and model of your stereo headset?
Cite?
IOW, if you release a piece of code under CC0 and I use it as a basis to write a program which I then am marketing, you cannot revoke your CC0 designation and stop me from selling my program.
*nods* Licenses are *very* different from promises and covenants. :D
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Toot toot.
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