Excuse me, but that was uncalled for. Contribute if you wish, but keep your comments to yourself if you have nothing really constructive to say.
On the topic of the question at hand, there are a whole bunch of issues to consider:
- Man hours. Make no mistake, even Unix veterans will have to spend a significant amount of time migrating the system from Novell/NT to Linux.
- In some cases, setting up Samba similar to NT permissions can be troublesome. Definitely look into a good tool to configure Samba. SWAT, the web frontend is nice, but may not be enough.
- If the LAN is just serving user home dirs and such, that's not difficult. If you have web based apps using MS propietary tech, you'll be in for a rough time porting that stuff. I hope you've gone with standards.
What are the short term benefits? Well here's a couple:
- No more per seat licensing/connection garbage.
- Very efficient use of hardware. I've seen NT servers slow down significantly when screen savers start. *SIGH* Of course, the screen saver should not have been enabled in the first place and it was promptly disabled but still...
- Bug updates are free, frequent, and if one has a bit of programming knowledge, possible to do/aid debug on one's own. Try that with MS Service Packs.
- Free software everywhere. Nuff said.
- Easy remote configuration, with X Servers, Telnet, FTP and other very useful methods. PCAnywhere just doesn't compare.
- Proven, useful web tech.
- With this more efficient hardware, you can have failover systems implemented (if you don't already, I hope you do). I have a little AMD 586 133 (P75 equivalent) with 16 MB of RAM and an ISA 10 MB Ethernet that can push 750+ KB/s to multiple clients over Samba.
Make no mistake, this isn't going to be a week-long thing. Plus, Netware is a nice NOS to start with. But there are several good reasons why Linux is gaining steam, and acceptance in the IT biz is another indicator of it.
Like other people have suggested, start small and work up.
Hasn't anyone considered for a second that perhaps their definition of test goals is "determine which OS is a faster web server in a RAID/SMP system" or some other criteria?
Not to defend the report (it's not Scottish, so it's craaaaaaaap:) but I read that sentence in a completely different way.
There was a discussion about SMP and heavy I/O limitations in Linux 2.0.X a while ago on Slashdot, so yes it was a valid problem. This was corrected in 2.2.X.
For more info, search for "Ring 3 Scaling problems" I believe.
I was just about to say. Why aren't they suing Acclaim either?
Looks like they just decided to sue the big three game makers without any research. Why nail the (relatively) poor game designers when you can go for the publishers?
Please, this reeks of cluelessness (like those people who call every video game "Nintendo"). I'd like to see a press release like
"Yes, we're suing the boy's parents for bad parenting"
Then the world will have become a better place (well, kinda:)
Microsoft could learn something from id Software
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There were mostly just gameplay issues, although there were a few rare serious bugs. One cute one, fire up the power armour with 50+ cells, start firing the BFG and have someone smack you around... You'll be able to fire with less than 50 cells...
This FUD is quite possibly the most dangerous. The few compliments and insults to Microsoft fool the reader into believing the writer is being fair and impartial. Then when the FUD hits, they accept it without questioning it. The reader loses all ability to tell what is real and what is FUD.
I'd probably prefer outright FUD, because at least it's easy to spot, even for the newbies...
I was referring to the freedom of being able to stay in Linux and not having to reboot everytime I want to run one or two specialized apps Wine dies on. Like you said, this increases reliance on Windows. It will have to do in the meantime though.
I hope everyone here has seen the AVI/MOVs "Bad Day" and "Rage". Watch them, you'll feel better.
I find slapping my CPU around like it's my ho makes it run faster, puts a shine on it and puts a sparkle in my eye. I need to, the bastard refuses to OC.
In the 2nd pic (the one with a realtime demo of an old man's face in the top-left corner) does anyone think that looks strikingly familiar? It looks like the FF8 movie preview that was out a while ago.
Wow, that would be impressive if the FF8 animation could be done on the PSX2.
Adding on to that, the people who run TUCOWS are Unix gurus. TUCOWS was started to serve users of an ISP Internet software. Guess what OS most users use?
When this happens, this will be amazing. Source code to a really high quality game. I can't wait, I want to poke around the OpenGL code, rendering code, etc. It will be interesting to see how a game as complex as Quake is coded.
Too bad the network code will be rather old and crusty, but even then it'll be a pleasure to look at:)
A trained monkey can ace a CS class - agreed
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'Tis true, it is easy. But I never said it was hard.
I actually attempted to take a minor in Physics to boot and was doing quite well, but scheduling conflicts have pretty much blown that option away.
I've been in the real world for a bit. I know, I'm not going to make any outrageously foolish claims like the previous AC.
Still, it would be nice to think that for a while:)
salary = experience + proven value
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Wow, I guess someone has a set of cajones here...
I'm in a similar boat. Being 20 and at the top of my CS classes (bastard arts courses on the other hand...;) I feel I'm going to bring a great amount to an employer. I already have on several occasions (It's nice to be offered a perm job after just working the summer...) but I've turned them down as I want to continue my education.
On the other hand, I'm not going to demand an outrageous salary. I'm going to want to live nicely, but I'm going to be looking for challenges and *GASP* a fun place to work. As in MS and Intel can kiss my #@$.
If there is one thing I can't stand about the CS/Engineering field, it's the outrageous arrogance some people have. I imagine a lot of people I know in CS would not be good project managers/contributors, mainly because they think they are superior to everyone else. I would probably NEVER work for you either.
I agree, Q2 for Linux is good. But the previous poster was right, 3DFX for Linux does suck. I've had the 3DFX (RVFlash, Voodoo1 based) not give up the pass-through when Q2 crashes (or, when trying to use another VT while Q2 is running). This is pretty sloppy work here.
The framerate decrease is horrible. You'd prefer losing 1/3 of your framerate? Okay, maybe you aren't as picky as some of us but that is a HUGE framerate drop where I come from. It annoys me to no end.
And no, I can't help with Glide porting. Not yet at least. I do have respect for D. Strauss, don't get me wrong. I'm thankful to have support for 3DFX. But saying Linux supports 3DFX as well as Windows is total B.S., and anyone who says otherwise is lying. That's why I have my Win95 partition.
Great, I guess when I get dragged to a Geocities site now it'll open up two commercial banners, one to Yahoo and one to it's other advertisers.
On the other hand, I guess it's good to see a bit of support/interest for one of the largest free web hosting services. I did have a web page on Geocities once, a long time ago...
Ahh, Slackerware. At least that's what us guys with nothing better to do than spend days installing an OS called it:)
I actually like Slackware's install from 3.2 way better than Redhat's. I remember being able to mount anything I needed during the install, really handy for installing off FAT drives that you downloaded the distro to (yes, downloading Linux is the only way:) I haven't seen what the later versions are like, I hope they haven't dumbed it down.
It was pretty high quality too. Redhat 5.1 has given me more headaches in a week than slackware gave me in a year.
Redhat RPMs are making people lazy. I just feel like a simpleton when I install an RPM. I find myself querying packages all the time. Perhaps it's paranoia, but give me.tar.gz any day:)
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Excuse me, but that was uncalled for. Contribute if you wish, but keep your comments to yourself if you have nothing really constructive to say.
On the topic of the question at hand, there are a whole bunch of issues to consider:
- Man hours. Make no mistake, even Unix veterans will have to spend a significant amount of time migrating the system from Novell/NT to Linux.
- In some cases, setting up Samba similar to NT permissions can be troublesome. Definitely look into a good tool to configure Samba. SWAT, the web frontend is nice, but may not be enough.
- If the LAN is just serving user home dirs and such, that's not difficult. If you have web based apps using MS propietary tech, you'll be in for a rough time porting that stuff. I hope you've gone with standards.
What are the short term benefits? Well here's a couple:
- No more per seat licensing/connection garbage.
- Very efficient use of hardware. I've seen NT servers slow down significantly when screen savers start. *SIGH* Of course, the screen saver should not have been enabled in the first place and it was promptly disabled but still...
- Bug updates are free, frequent, and if one has a bit of programming knowledge, possible to do/aid debug on one's own. Try that with MS Service Packs.
- Free software everywhere. Nuff said.
- Easy remote configuration, with X Servers, Telnet, FTP and other very useful methods. PCAnywhere just doesn't compare.
- Proven, useful web tech.
- With this more efficient hardware, you can have failover systems implemented (if you don't already, I hope you do). I have a little AMD 586 133 (P75 equivalent) with 16 MB of RAM and an ISA 10 MB Ethernet that can push 750+ KB/s to multiple clients over Samba.
Make no mistake, this isn't going to be a week-long thing. Plus, Netware is a nice NOS to start with. But there are several good reasons why Linux is gaining steam, and acceptance in the IT biz is another indicator of it.
Like other people have suggested, start small and work up.
Hasn't anyone considered for a second that perhaps their definition of test goals is "determine which OS is a faster web server in a RAID/SMP system" or some other criteria?
:) but I read that sentence in a completely different way.
Not to defend the report (it's not Scottish, so it's craaaaaaaap
Some soundcards under Windows 95/98 can do this.
:(
My Monster Sound M80 could for instance.
Using E, I believe you can do something like this
(using esddsp). I wish Linux had support for the M80, it's a bit old but still an amazing card
There was a discussion about SMP and heavy I/O limitations in Linux 2.0.X a while ago on Slashdot, so yes it was a valid problem. This was corrected in 2.2.X.
For more info, search for "Ring 3 Scaling problems" I believe.
I was just about to say. Why aren't they suing Acclaim either?
:)
Looks like they just decided to sue the big three game makers without any research. Why nail the (relatively) poor game designers when you can go for the publishers?
Please, this reeks of cluelessness (like those people who call every video game "Nintendo"). I'd like to see a press release like
"Yes, we're suing the boy's parents for bad parenting"
Then the world will have become a better place (well, kinda
There were mostly just gameplay issues, although there were a few rare serious bugs. One cute one, fire up the power armour with 50+ cells, start firing the BFG and have someone smack you around... You'll be able to fire with less than 50 cells...
This FUD is quite possibly the most dangerous. The few compliments and insults to Microsoft fool the reader into believing the writer is being fair and impartial. Then when the FUD hits, they accept it without questioning it. The reader loses all ability to tell what is real and what is FUD.
I'd probably prefer outright FUD, because at least it's easy to spot, even for the newbies...
I was referring to the freedom of being able to stay in Linux and not having to reboot everytime I want to run one or two specialized apps Wine dies on. Like you said, this increases reliance on Windows. It will have to do in the meantime though.
I guess we'll have to wait for some mirrors. I've been looking forward to this for quite a while. Please, make the bad Bill go away :)
I'm not as annoyed at Rob as I am at those asses who use lose/loose incorrectly all the time. Sheesh.
I hope everyone here has seen the AVI/MOVs "Bad Day" and "Rage". Watch them, you'll feel better.
I find slapping my CPU around like it's my ho makes it run faster, puts a shine on it and puts a sparkle in my eye. I need to, the bastard refuses to OC.
Hmmm, but wouldn't it be cute to have Tux warbling at you as your document is chewed up and spit out?
If M$ ever moves its headquarters to Canada, there will be a disaster unlike this world has ever seen.
:)
It's your crappy company, you keep it
You think so? :)
I'm a dumbass, rpgamer.com confirms it right in the article. Sorry.
In the 2nd pic (the one with a realtime demo of an old man's face in the top-left corner) does anyone think that looks strikingly familiar? It looks like the FF8 movie preview that was out a while ago.
Wow, that would be impressive if the FF8 animation could be done on the PSX2.
Then again, it's a console. ehhh......
Adding on to that, the people who run TUCOWS are Unix gurus. TUCOWS was started to serve users of an ISP Internet software. Guess what OS most users use?
Of course, it has exploded since then...
When this happens, this will be amazing. Source code to a really high quality game. I can't wait, I want to poke around the OpenGL code, rendering code, etc. It will be interesting to see how a game as complex as Quake is coded.
:)
Too bad the network code will be rather old and crusty, but even then it'll be a pleasure to look at
'Tis true, it is easy. But I never said it was hard.
:)
I actually attempted to take a minor in Physics to boot and was doing quite well, but scheduling conflicts have pretty much blown that option away.
I've been in the real world for a bit. I know, I'm not going to make any outrageously foolish claims like the previous AC.
Still, it would be nice to think that for a while
Wow, I guess someone has a set of cajones here...
;) I feel I'm going to bring a great amount to an employer. I already have on several occasions (It's nice to be offered a perm job after just working the summer...) but I've turned them down as I want to continue my education.
I'm in a similar boat. Being 20 and at the top of my CS classes (bastard arts courses on the other hand...
On the other hand, I'm not going to demand an outrageous salary. I'm going to want to live nicely, but I'm going to be looking for challenges and *GASP* a fun place to work. As in MS and Intel can kiss my #@$.
If there is one thing I can't stand about the CS/Engineering field, it's the outrageous arrogance some people have. I imagine a lot of people I know in CS would not be good project managers/contributors, mainly because they think they are superior to everyone else. I would probably NEVER work for you either.
"I would rather choose to have my leg bitten off than to buy NT", DNA Plant Technologies Corp. Sysadmin
:)
Heh, this sysadmin sounds a tiny bit bitter
I agree, Q2 for Linux is good. But the previous poster was right, 3DFX for Linux does suck. I've had the 3DFX (RVFlash, Voodoo1 based) not give up the pass-through when Q2 crashes (or, when trying to use another VT while Q2 is running). This is pretty sloppy work here.
The framerate decrease is horrible. You'd prefer losing 1/3 of your framerate? Okay, maybe you aren't as picky as some of us but that is a HUGE framerate drop where I come from. It annoys me to no end.
And no, I can't help with Glide porting. Not yet at least. I do have respect for D. Strauss, don't get me wrong. I'm thankful to have support for 3DFX. But saying Linux supports 3DFX as well as Windows is total B.S., and anyone who says otherwise is lying. That's why I have my Win95 partition.
Great, I guess when I get dragged to a Geocities site now it'll open up two commercial banners, one to Yahoo and one to it's other advertisers.
On the other hand, I guess it's good to see a bit of support/interest for one of the largest free web hosting services. I did have a web page on Geocities once, a long time ago...
Kryotech made a modified PC cooling system case, and Anandtech reviewed it a while ago.
m ?document=343
http://www.anandtech.com/html/review_display.cf
So, this cooling has been done, better. Well, if it wasn't for the fact the cooling system was so damn expensive and it was limited to Socket 7 CPUs.
Ahh, Slackerware. At least that's what us guys with nothing better to do than spend days installing an OS called it :)
:) I haven't seen what the later versions are like, I hope they haven't dumbed it down.
.tar.gz any day :)
I actually like Slackware's install from 3.2 way better than Redhat's. I remember being able to mount anything I needed during the install, really handy for installing off FAT drives that you downloaded the distro to (yes, downloading Linux is the only way
It was pretty high quality too. Redhat 5.1 has given me more headaches in a week than slackware gave me in a year.
Redhat RPMs are making people lazy. I just feel like a simpleton when I install an RPM. I find myself querying packages all the time. Perhaps it's paranoia, but give me