After Xmas (according to Carmack), you'll be able to download the binaries for each version. So I wouldn't worry about that too much.
Buy the Linux version, and yoink the Windows binaries from someone else if you really need to in the meantime. That should be possible, and hopefully that doesn't violate any laws.
8) To the other that say it is unfunny. That is because the humor level of the comic is more than likely over your head.
Sorry, no. It's more like I have to lower my intelligence to appreciate the humour of the comic.
Case in point: The recent NT bash/Gap parody. It's been done before. Better. And the subjects haven't been beaten to death.
I found User Friendly funnier back a long time ago. I liked the SWAT assault on Microsoft. That was funny. The crud puppy was funny. Complaining about NT is not.
I prefer Roomies (roomies.org) and PvP (www.mpog.com/pvp) for online comics. Penny-Arcade gets the tip of the hat too (www.penny-arcade.com).
Perhaps you'd like Brandon instead to just say "If UT cores, please let me know". After all, isn't that what id Software says? And nobody complains about them.
Any dead sound app has a tendency to lock/dev/dsp. It's happened to me with Q2 and a couple other apps. rmmod won't even work:(
It looks like Brandon was trying to be positive and give helpful suggestions. Instead you slagged him over his wording. This is poor form, and this is NOT the way to attract developers to Linux.
Do you want your world domination guys? If so, then this is not the way to do it. Fill out bug reports. We do it for other dev software, this is no different. For those of you lucky enough to have 3DFX cards. For those who don't, keep pushing for XFree86 4.0:)
Oh, and id has pretty much said the same thing so don't take Epic to task on it.
Games will attract more users to Linux. Make no doubt about it. Apple pushed the Mac as a gaming solution again for a reason. I spend a great deal of my time booted into Win95 just for these games without ports. If we could only get a couple of these killer apps (games), then this could be the push we need to really get the ball rolling.
Oh, and what exactly are you doing thinking about running the CLIENT on a SERVER? It's the client that has problems (understandably, it's ^x times more complex than the server).
And finally, moderators, please... Moderate the post overrated at least.
The person was referring to the client. It has problems with sound, audio and such. The server is not nearly as buggy (crossing fingers:)
I think people are not being fair. This was probably one of Brandon's first shots at programming under Linux. It took id several years to get it right for crying out loud.
And I'm suddenly looking forward to XFree86 v4 more than ever.
Oh, and thanks haven, for not taking any time to understand just what you were reading.
Pixelon is quite possibly the most pretentious site I've ever visited. It AUTOMATICALLY takes over your entire screen, and won't let you view the site in a window. They only give you a Close button to work with *SIGH*
Then Pixelon's video player has the gall to go fullscreen too (fortunately it can be windowed). And contrary to what it says, an aborted download for me did not allow a resumption of the video download.
It also doesn't stream the video. You have to wait for the entire segment to download.
Thank goodness I wasn't trying to do any serious work, otherwise I'd be really angry:)
Actually, Linux is even one step up on that count. I'm using my Logitech Mouseman USB Wheelmouse at the moment. Sure the USB isn't fully here, but it's a LOT further along than non-existant.
I also remember there being a PNP option in the kernel config. I couldn't find much documentation on it though.
This article is making me feel sick. But it's good to see Microsoft is scared.
Try installing Slackware as a newbie!
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That's what I tried to do waaay back. Now THAT was a challenge. With no documentation, and like 100 odd floppies. I learned how to use fdisk and mount, got it up and running, and was then baffled for an hour, looking how to start XWindows (XDM? Is that it?)
Of course, I'd like to think I've progressed past that stage today. Now all my downtime is related to hardware problems (says sadly as newly fried 8.5 GB HD sits on desk uselessly).
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I may be wrong, but I've heard of this system from my former place of work (student) so I may be able to comment a bit on it.
The card merely contains a login/session id or something similar. So, by swiping the card, you automagically log in and your current work session just pops up. So if you want to switch terminals where you're working at, just take your card and swipe it at a different terminal. Bingo, done.
It's similar to VNC in a way I suppose.
I think thin client/server is a good idea for a school setting, but client/server where everything is kept in NIS/NFS/you name it is valid too.
Well, looks like Microsoft has their hand in the cookie jar again. The faked grassroots support campaign earlier was bad, since it came from the consumer's viewpoint. Now they've played the academics for fools. I bet those academics that said the antitrust case was a bad idea will look at their arguments again now:) That's quite a slap in the face to defend a company, and have them influence you indirectly. I'm glad my CIS labs don't use MS (knock on wood, see earlier story re: MS in Academic Use).
I saw this at Comdex 99 (Toronto, ON) and it was truly great. You could not tell at all what was on the screen, except when looking through the special glasses. Although this isn't entirely new (I've heard about it for over a year) it was nice to see it in person.
Of course, people would start getting frustrated. Why, you could be viewing porn right on the subway and no one would notice;)
There are various proxy apps for Windows now, ones that can use either a dialup connection or a second net card (i.e. ADSL, cable modem, etc.) Sygate is a good example. I don't particularly recommend it, I just use it and it works fine.
I've known about remote host for a while, and I don't find it to be a particularly good solution for me. Quake doesn't run nearly as well:)
But yes, if it's just web browsing/mail, that's fine. You could use Unix or Windows (with an X server, there are free ones here and there) on the second PC.
Windows CAN do this, try X-WinPRO for example. It works beautifully. No offense, but that was just plain bad research.
Yes, the time is almost upon us. I'd like to see nVidia pick up the ball and run with it now. I have to make a decision sometime soon for a new vid card, and I would love to have a couple choices. Voodoo3, G400, or TNT2/Ultra. Hmmm, choices choices...
I'd like to see what a DRI driver can do for Q3Test, as this is what was holding back cards like the TNT2 and G400 from performing well.
With LAN tournaments coming up, I would love to be able to compete with Q3Test/Q2 native on Linux. That would certainly raise eyebrows for the Windows folk:)
If it was accurate, it wouldn't be much of a movie:
Scientist 1: Okay, so let's start this... Brilliant yet psycho scientist: NO YOU'LL FORM A BLACK HOLE! Scientist 2: Be quiet psycho! Let's start.. Scientist 1: Okay, all readings normal. OH SHI...
This debate is getting tiresome. Remember, 70 fps is the AVERAGE. While you're right on with the refresh thing, there will be sections of the game where a 70 FPS average will include, say, 130+ FPS staring at a wall (good) or 30 FPS in a heated fight (bad).
Going from 70 FPS down to 30 FPS is quite a visible jolt (to me anyways). The way around this is to have enough CPU power available to keep the frame rate as high as possible in complex scenes.
One way is to boost the CPU power dramatically. Another (similar) way is to use SMP, which is what the yet-to-be-released new version of Q3Test has.
Do what I do. Don't watch T.V. Really, it's boring. True crap. I can't stand most of it nowadays. The only channels I can dare watch are the Nature channel and sometimes The Movie Network.
As for Internet, yup you're kind of in a bind there. Lesson learned: Resnet cannot be beat:)
On a tangent, did anyone watch "The 700 Club" as a kid while you were searching for cartoons? I did, and for the longest time I found it the most boring show. I couldn't understand what it was supposed to be. I saw it again today (they were vilifying Internet p0rn too), and realized what it is. *SIGH* That could explain a lot...:)
On another note, has anyone seen Bawls in Canada? I've heard Blue talking about it for ages, yet I've never seen it anywhere here. Not that I'm going to cry over it, I'm just curious.
Actually, it's Solaris. There have been stories of failed migrations from Solaris to NT all over the net, take a look around.
And besides, they weren't shutdown after all. A *GASP* MS employee said otherwise. I was impressed to actually receive a response:) So nevermind, my speculations were wrong.
Well, Brian Hook has always had quite a mouth on him. From facing off against Alex St. John on OGL and DirectX, to his benchmarking controversies vs. Tom's Hardware, to basically any comment made in his plan, he's managed to piss someone off. I liked that:)
Brian Hook has given plenty to the community. If you haven't read Ask GMB over at www.voodooextreme.com, now would be a good time to go check it out. It's become part of my routine, plus I've picked up some hot advice on everything from programming, to attitude, to women. It's rare for a programmer to give as much back as Brian has.
I'm sure Brian won't be going far (perhaps some graphics company? He did work for 3DFX for a while). Good luck Brian, you will be missed at id, and by the Quake community. Don't stray too far, Paul Steed can only stir up so much controversy.
As for id, they still have fine programmers in John Carmack & John Cash. They'll hardly miss a beat. Plus, the Q3 engine is looking pretty solid as it is.
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After Xmas (according to Carmack), you'll be able to download the binaries for each version. So I wouldn't worry about that too much.
Buy the Linux version, and yoink the Windows binaries from someone else if you really need to in the meantime. That should be possible, and hopefully that doesn't violate any laws.
What's especially scary is the Microsoft guy off to the left who seems to be enjoying the view :)
It's been announced that Xatrix (makers of Kingpin) have been licenced by id to create Wolf2000, using the Quake3 engine.
:)
Close enough?
8) To the other that say it is unfunny. That is because the humor level of the comic is more than likely over your head.
:)
Sorry, no. It's more like I have to lower my intelligence to appreciate the humour of the comic.
Case in point: The recent NT bash/Gap parody. It's been done before. Better. And the subjects haven't been beaten to death.
I found User Friendly funnier back a long time ago. I liked the SWAT assault on Microsoft. That was funny. The crud puppy was funny. Complaining about NT is not.
I prefer Roomies (roomies.org) and PvP (www.mpog.com/pvp) for online comics. Penny-Arcade gets the tip of the hat too (www.penny-arcade.com).
Oh, and Red Meat (www.redmeat.com) too
Perhaps you'd like Brandon instead to just say "If UT cores, please let me know". After all, isn't that what id Software says? And nobody complains about them.
/dev/dsp. It's happened to me with Q2 and a couple other apps. rmmod won't even work :(
:)
Any dead sound app has a tendency to lock
It looks like Brandon was trying to be positive and give helpful suggestions. Instead you slagged him over his wording. This is poor form, and this is NOT the way to attract developers to Linux.
Do you want your world domination guys? If so, then this is not the way to do it. Fill out bug reports. We do it for other dev software, this is no different. For those of you lucky enough to have 3DFX cards. For those who don't, keep pushing for XFree86 4.0
Oh, and id has pretty much said the same thing so don't take Epic to task on it.
Games will attract more users to Linux. Make no doubt about it. Apple pushed the Mac as a gaming solution again for a reason. I spend a great deal of my time booted into Win95 just for these games without ports. If we could only get a couple of these killer apps (games), then this could be the push we need to really get the ball rolling.
Oh, and what exactly are you doing thinking about running the CLIENT on a SERVER? It's the client that has problems (understandably, it's ^x times more complex than the server).
And finally, moderators, please... Moderate the post overrated at least.
The person was referring to the client. It has problems with sound, audio and such. The server is not nearly as buggy (crossing fingers :)
I think people are not being fair. This was probably one of Brandon's first shots at programming under Linux. It took id several years to get it right for crying out loud.
And I'm suddenly looking forward to XFree86 v4 more than ever.
Oh, and thanks haven, for not taking any time to understand just what you were reading.
Pixelon is quite possibly the most pretentious site I've ever visited. It AUTOMATICALLY takes over your entire screen, and won't let you view the site in a window. They only give you a Close button to work with *SIGH*
:)
Then Pixelon's video player has the gall to go fullscreen too (fortunately it can be windowed). And contrary to what it says, an aborted download for me did not allow a resumption of the video download.
It also doesn't stream the video. You have to wait for the entire segment to download.
Thank goodness I wasn't trying to do any serious work, otherwise I'd be really angry
Actually, Linux is even one step up on that count. I'm using my Logitech Mouseman USB Wheelmouse at the moment. Sure the USB isn't fully here, but it's a LOT further along than non-existant.
I also remember there being a PNP option in the kernel config. I couldn't find much documentation on it though.
This article is making me feel sick. But it's good to see Microsoft is scared.
That's what I tried to do waaay back. Now THAT was a challenge. With no documentation, and like 100 odd floppies. I learned how to use fdisk and mount, got it up and running, and was then baffled for an hour, looking how to start XWindows (XDM? Is that it?)
Of course, I'd like to think I've progressed past that stage today. Now all my downtime is related to hardware problems (says sadly as newly fried 8.5 GB HD sits on desk uselessly).
Think in Octal, and then you'll get it:
0x01B6 = 438 base 10 = 666 base 8 aka octal
chmod xxx file uses xxx as an octal argument.
I must admit, that one was nice.
I may be wrong, but I've heard of this system from my former place of work (student) so I may be able to comment a bit on it.
The card merely contains a login/session id or something similar. So, by swiping the card, you automagically log in and your current work session just pops up. So if you want to switch terminals where you're working at, just take your card and swipe it at a different terminal. Bingo, done.
It's similar to VNC in a way I suppose.
I think thin client/server is a good idea for a school setting, but client/server where everything is kept in NIS/NFS/you name it is valid too.
Well, looks like Microsoft has their hand in the cookie jar again. The faked grassroots support campaign earlier was bad, since it came from the consumer's viewpoint. Now they've played the academics for fools. I bet those academics that said the antitrust case was a bad idea will look at their arguments again now :) That's quite a slap in the face to defend a company, and have them influence you indirectly. I'm glad my CIS labs don't use MS (knock on wood, see earlier story re: MS in Academic Use).
r_smp 1 enables SMP in Quake3
Sorry, it's too easy to fake the ID and/or MAC. Besides, what if you had say an AMD CPU and only a modem? What would you do then?
I saw this at Comdex 99 (Toronto, ON) and it was truly great. You could not tell at all what was on the screen, except when looking through the special glasses. Although this isn't entirely new (I've heard about it for over a year) it was nice to see it in person.
;)
Of course, people would start getting frustrated. Why, you could be viewing porn right on the subway and no one would notice
There are various proxy apps for Windows now, ones that can use either a dialup connection or a second net card (i.e. ADSL, cable modem, etc.) Sygate is a good example. I don't particularly recommend it, I just use it and it works fine.
:)
I've known about remote host for a while, and I don't find it to be a particularly good solution for me. Quake doesn't run nearly as well
But yes, if it's just web browsing/mail, that's fine. You could use Unix or Windows (with an X server, there are free ones here and there) on the second PC.
Windows CAN do this, try X-WinPRO for example. It works beautifully. No offense, but that was just plain bad research.
Yes, the time is almost upon us. I'd like to see nVidia pick up the ball and run with it now. I have to make a decision sometime soon for a new vid card, and I would love to have a couple choices. Voodoo3, G400, or TNT2/Ultra. Hmmm, choices choices...
:)
I'd like to see what a DRI driver can do for Q3Test, as this is what was holding back cards like the TNT2 and G400 from performing well.
With LAN tournaments coming up, I would love to be able to compete with Q3Test/Q2 native on Linux. That would certainly raise eyebrows for the Windows folk
If it was accurate, it wouldn't be much of a movie:
:)
Scientist 1: Okay, so let's start this...
Brilliant yet psycho scientist: NO YOU'LL FORM A BLACK HOLE!
Scientist 2: Be quiet psycho! Let's start..
Scientist 1: Okay, all readings normal. OH SHI...
*POOF*
Fin
Now, how could that possibly be exciting?
This debate is getting tiresome. Remember, 70 fps is the AVERAGE. While you're right on with the refresh thing, there will be sections of the game where a 70 FPS average will include, say, 130+ FPS staring at a wall (good) or 30 FPS in a heated fight (bad).
Going from 70 FPS down to 30 FPS is quite a visible jolt (to me anyways). The way around this is to have enough CPU power available to keep the frame rate as high as possible in complex scenes.
One way is to boost the CPU power dramatically. Another (similar) way is to use SMP, which is what the yet-to-be-released new version of Q3Test has.
Do what I do. Don't watch T.V. Really, it's boring. True crap. I can't stand most of it nowadays. The only channels I can dare watch are the Nature channel and sometimes The Movie Network.
:)
:)
As for Internet, yup you're kind of in a bind there. Lesson learned: Resnet cannot be beat
On a tangent, did anyone watch "The 700 Club" as a kid while you were searching for cartoons? I did, and for the longest time I found it the most boring show. I couldn't understand what it was supposed to be. I saw it again today (they were vilifying Internet p0rn too), and realized what it is. *SIGH* That could explain a lot...
Anyways, back to slav^H^H^H^Hwork!
Definitely Quakers here :)
On another note, has anyone seen Bawls in Canada? I've heard Blue talking about it for ages, yet I've never seen it anywhere here. Not that I'm going to cry over it, I'm just curious.
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Actually, it's Solaris. There have been stories of failed migrations from Solaris to NT all over the net, take a look around.
:) So nevermind, my speculations were wrong.
And besides, they weren't shutdown after all. A *GASP* MS employee said otherwise. I was impressed to actually receive a response
It would seem that Microsoft got hit really hard.
:)
I can't even get into HoTMaiL at the moment (yeah
sue me, we're firewalled badly at work).
All it says is it could not validate my login.
I somewhat doubt I've mistyped that login 4 times
so far
Even if they are taking precautions, this garbage
is starting to get annoying.
Cute.
Well, Brian Hook has always had quite a mouth on him. From facing off against Alex St. John on OGL and DirectX, to his benchmarking controversies vs. Tom's Hardware, to basically any comment made in his plan, he's managed to piss someone off. I liked that :)
Brian Hook has given plenty to the community. If you haven't read Ask GMB over at www.voodooextreme.com, now would be a good time to go check it out. It's become part of my routine, plus I've picked up some hot advice on everything from programming, to attitude, to women. It's rare for a programmer to give as much back as Brian has.
I'm sure Brian won't be going far (perhaps some graphics company? He did work for 3DFX for a while). Good luck Brian, you will be missed at id, and by the Quake community. Don't stray too far, Paul Steed can only stir up so much controversy.
As for id, they still have fine programmers in John Carmack & John Cash. They'll hardly miss a beat. Plus, the Q3 engine is looking pretty solid as it is.