You seem to think that your impression of the prevailing/. opinion on a topic is the opinion that all/. readers and posters should have.
I, as an individual, am not being inconsistent.
I think Apple products are largely dumbed down and lame. I think they're a collection of jerks who wanted to be monopolists, but didn't have the business savvy in the 1980's to pull it off, and have been culturing an underdog, hippie image ever since.
I dissent from what you see as the prevailing/. opinion, but that does not make me inconsistent. It means I actually think for myself instead of swallowing whatever people say.
Do not confuse individual thought and dissent within a group with inconsistency.
I still don't get why people are so enamored with Apple. For every piece of FUD Microsoft spews, Apple tosses out a lawsuit.
People forget that Apple sued Microsoft to keep non Apple GUIS off the market. If they had their way, everything would be text mode or Apple. No Windows, no X, no nothing. The only up shot to this I can think of is we'd have been spared the silly KDE vs GNOME battles. OF course that's because if Apple had their way, neither would exist.
They're no better than Microsoft, SUN or even SCO, but because they're considered an underdog in the hardware and OS wars, shenanigans like this are given a free pass.
What gives?
We're talking about a company who took until version TEN to have a decent OS, and still ships their laptops with one frigging mouse button, even though they cram as much functionality into the alternate mouse buttons as any Windows developer.
Your seem to have lost your ability to detect snarky sarcasm. You should have this loss examined. Perhaps the sarcasm detection segments of your brain require retraining.
I do not "assume the victims of natural disasters are heretics suffering gods wrath," but I'm impressed with the responses from my obvious and blatant trolling.
We've invaded a country for trumped up reasons in order to settle a personal debt our Chief Executive Officer has about a conflict his father had with the leader of said nation.
And we're proceeding to screw over the invaded nation and our own society to line corporate pockets.
And we've done it all without having any kind of an understanding of the local populace or how to get a stable government up and running.
If the Muslims have it right and the Jews and Christians have it wrong, then God is going to be PISSED. Hell, he'll probably be pissed either way. This is starting to look like the next round in a divine smack down.
Remember, he only promised to never use a flood to destroy the entire Earth. No guarantees were made about using floods to destroy parts of it, or using other means to wipe the Earth clean.
I have at least three former bosses who, upon seeing the site, will have their purchasing department order one ASAP.
Even if they read the rest of the site.
And anyone who tells them it's a hoax will be permanently discredited in the eyes of said PHBs
If this is a scam, I know exactly the kind of "Manage IT by magazine articles" twits they're targeting. If it's a hoax, their targets are the same set of PHBs.
It could be a psychology study in human gullibility, or the tendency to believe unconfirmed sources if the news is what you want to hear. Let's be blunt, we'd all be thrilled if this were true, and if someone less technologically inclined were to see this many would believe it.
I was trying to use sarcasm to point out that using open formats is NOT a death knell for a company or product, and can actually be a massive benefit.
PKWare used to be the ZIP King, until Winzip came out. PKWare has fallen by the wayside, and Winzip continues despite there being a massive number of free competitors.
At least, I didn't have it until I installed a licensed copy of Adobe Acrobat Standard.
The Adobe PDF printer you're seeing was added by a third party application, probably some flavor of Adobe Acrobat Standard or Professional. I don't know what other Adobe products also add a PDF printer driver. Photoshop might, and I'm pretty sure Illustrator does as well.
No, it's not part of Windows XP, and the only way to (legally) get it is to buy the necessary software from Adobe.
Some demo versions of Adobe software may have a bug that results in the PDF Printer remaining behind after an uninstall, or after the demo expires. That could be another way you got the option.
But no, the rank and file Windows XP users do not have a PDF Printer available by default in either the Home or Professional editions.
They will support the format just enough that they can tick the box on the list of features, but not enough that it will be reliably compatible with any other implementation
What do you think their XML format is all about?
The data is still an obfuscated binary, it's just crammed into pseudo XML to bloat the file a bit more.
They get to check off "XML" support, and yet it's completely useless unless you're using Microsoft development tools for anything outside of Office itself.
MS will offer the state some discounts on Microsoft Office. If they're desperate they'll push RTF as a document format instead.
As we've seen far too many times in the past, government bodies tend to use moves like this as a way to force a better deal out of the existing vendor.
This isn't about using Open Source to build a better solution. It's about leveraging Open Source to get a better deal on the existing solution
Yes, there are numerous alternatives to Winzip available for little to no cost that are, in my experience, more stable, flexible and worth learning to use.
Hell, Windows XP and 2003 Server have a good deal of built in ZIP support!
Winzip had branding, which is incredibly valuable. It also has a bit of glitz.
Just because you have the ability to chain together a series of utilities ported form Unix, to produce an elegant, simple and reliably backup solution, doesn't mean the rank and file Windows admins can.
You'd be astounded how many people there are who can't use a command line to save their life, don't want to and are administering Windows Active Directory domains.
For example:
At a previous job, the hosting site was a half hour drive away, and the PC Anywhere host dies. We need to get into the server to change a few things around.
I'd set up a secure shell, so I SSH in, restart the PC Anywhere host form the command line, and have the admin try again.
He knew about the Secure Shell, but the first thing he did when he went in was not to fix the problem we were having, but unistall everything related to SSH, because he didn't want any "Back Doors" into the servers, and because he'd read that Telenet was bad, and should be removed.
Yes, he equated and encrypted Secure Shell running over a VPN with using telnet over the raw Internet.
My point is, Winzip is, to a certain extent, for people who are afraid of the alternatives.
And that doesn't even touch the business mentality that anything worth using is going to cost money.
Yeah, the old versions were less than spectacular.
If context menus were the main barrier for you, then you might want to give it another try. There are now "Add to Archive" and "Extract To" context menus that work nicely in Windows.
Tell you what, I'll give IZarc a fair shot if you try 7-zip again.:)
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I never said MS was better than Apple, just that Apple wasn't any better than MS.
You;re suffering form a common delusion.
/. opinion on a topic is the opinion that all /. readers and posters should have.
/. opinion, but that does not make me inconsistent. It means I actually think for myself instead of swallowing whatever people say.
You seem to think that your impression of the prevailing
I, as an individual, am not being inconsistent.
I think Apple products are largely dumbed down and lame. I think they're a collection of jerks who wanted to be monopolists, but didn't have the business savvy in the 1980's to pull it off, and have been culturing an underdog, hippie image ever since.
I dissent from what you see as the prevailing
Do not confuse individual thought and dissent within a group with inconsistency.
So it's OK to be a slimeball, as long as your product is good.
Google and Pixar?
You got it there.
Apple would OWN the GUI, and real graphics work would be next to impossible without it, because everything necessary would be patented.
Apple wanted to be what Microsoft is, they just have some good marketing pushing a neuvo Hippie image.
I still don't get why people are so enamored with Apple. For every piece of FUD Microsoft spews, Apple tosses out a lawsuit.
People forget that Apple sued Microsoft to keep non Apple GUIS off the market. If they had their way, everything would be text mode or Apple. No Windows, no X, no nothing. The only up shot to this I can think of is we'd have been spared the silly KDE vs GNOME battles. OF course that's because if Apple had their way, neither would exist.
They're no better than Microsoft, SUN or even SCO, but because they're considered an underdog in the hardware and OS wars, shenanigans like this are given a free pass.
What gives?
We're talking about a company who took until version TEN to have a decent OS, and still ships their laptops with one frigging mouse button, even though they cram as much functionality into the alternate mouse buttons as any Windows developer.
my boss thinks "wireless security" is an oxymoron.
Smart Person.
He/She probably saves a lot of time and money by sticking to technology that can be locked down properly.
Yes, but does it run under Windows?
Oh, I know there are plenty of free options. My point was that there are no PDF creators built into XP and installed by default.
Dear Sir or Madame,
Your seem to have lost your ability to detect snarky sarcasm. You should have this loss examined. Perhaps the sarcasm detection segments of your brain require retraining.
I do not "assume the victims of natural disasters are heretics suffering gods wrath," but I'm impressed with the responses from my obvious and blatant trolling.
We've invaded a country for trumped up reasons in order to settle a personal debt our Chief Executive Officer has about a conflict his father had with the leader of said nation.
And we're proceeding to screw over the invaded nation and our own society to line corporate pockets.
And we've done it all without having any kind of an understanding of the local populace or how to get a stable government up and running.
If the Muslims have it right and the Jews and Christians have it wrong, then God is going to be PISSED. Hell, he'll probably be pissed either way. This is starting to look like the next round in a divine smack down.
Remember, he only promised to never use a flood to destroy the entire Earth. No guarantees were made about using floods to destroy parts of it, or using other means to wipe the Earth clean.
I have at least three former bosses who, upon seeing the site, will have their purchasing department order one ASAP.
Even if they read the rest of the site.
And anyone who tells them it's a hoax will be permanently discredited in the eyes of said PHBs
If this is a scam, I know exactly the kind of "Manage IT by magazine articles" twits they're targeting. If it's a hoax, their targets are the same set of PHBs.
It could be a psychology study in human gullibility, or the tendency to believe unconfirmed sources if the news is what you want to hear. Let's be blunt, we'd all be thrilled if this were true, and if someone less technologically inclined were to see this many would believe it.
No I didn't. My timing was perfect.
I was trying to use sarcasm to point out that using open formats is NOT a death knell for a company or product, and can actually be a massive benefit.
PKWare used to be the ZIP King, until Winzip came out. PKWare has fallen by the wayside, and Winzip continues despite there being a massive number of free competitors.
"Real" "Butter" (TM)
Dude, that wasn't a movie.
They sell that stuff at the local supermarket.
At least, I didn't have it until I installed a licensed copy of Adobe Acrobat Standard.
The Adobe PDF printer you're seeing was added by a third party application, probably some flavor of Adobe Acrobat Standard or Professional. I don't know what other Adobe products also add a PDF printer driver. Photoshop might, and I'm pretty sure Illustrator does as well.
No, it's not part of Windows XP, and the only way to (legally) get it is to buy the necessary software from Adobe.
Some demo versions of Adobe software may have a bug that results in the PDF Printer remaining behind after an uninstall, or after the demo expires. That could be another way you got the option.
But no, the rank and file Windows XP users do not have a PDF Printer available by default in either the Home or Professional editions.
MA GOV Cries LINUX. MS discounts expected ASAP.
They will support the format just enough that they can tick the box on the list of features, but not enough that it will be reliably compatible with any other implementation
What do you think their XML format is all about?
The data is still an obfuscated binary, it's just crammed into pseudo XML to bloat the file a bit more.
They get to check off "XML" support, and yet it's completely useless unless you're using Microsoft development tools for anything outside of Office itself.
MS HAD to offer that in Apple for the MAC. It's an OS level feature on the MAC, and refusing to support i would have pissed a lot of people off.
You can emulate this on the PC by installing PDFCreator or Adobe Acrobat Standard or Professional. The PDF creator is added as a printer in Windows.
Yeah, because supporting an Open Format really killed Winzip. They haven't been heard from in AGES.
MS will offer the state some discounts on Microsoft Office. If they're desperate they'll push RTF as a document format instead.
As we've seen far too many times in the past, government bodies tend to use moves like this as a way to force a better deal out of the existing vendor.
This isn't about using Open Source to build a better solution. It's about leveraging Open Source to get a better deal on the existing solution
"we must buy all software even if it's WORTHLESS"
Actually, you answered your own question.
Yes, there are numerous alternatives to Winzip available for little to no cost that are, in my experience, more stable, flexible and worth learning to use.
Hell, Windows XP and 2003 Server have a good deal of built in ZIP support!
Winzip had branding, which is incredibly valuable. It also has a bit of glitz.
Just because you have the ability to chain together a series of utilities ported form Unix, to produce an elegant, simple and reliably backup solution, doesn't mean the rank and file Windows admins can.
You'd be astounded how many people there are who can't use a command line to save their life, don't want to and are administering Windows Active Directory domains.
For example:
At a previous job, the hosting site was a half hour drive away, and the PC Anywhere host dies. We need to get into the server to change a few things around.
I'd set up a secure shell, so I SSH in, restart the PC Anywhere host form the command line, and have the admin try again.
He knew about the Secure Shell, but the first thing he did when he went in was not to fix the problem we were having, but unistall everything related to SSH, because he didn't want any "Back Doors" into the servers, and because he'd read that Telenet was bad, and should be removed.
Yes, he equated and encrypted Secure Shell running over a VPN with using telnet over the raw Internet.
My point is, Winzip is, to a certain extent, for people who are afraid of the alternatives.
And that doesn't even touch the business mentality that anything worth using is going to cost money.
Yeah, the old versions were less than spectacular.
:)
If context menus were the main barrier for you, then you might want to give it another try. There are now "Add to Archive" and "Extract To" context menus that work nicely in Windows.
Tell you what, I'll give IZarc a fair shot if you try 7-zip again.
That's all I've got.
Thank you.
/me bows
Thank you very much.
How'd I know that's how you'd respond?
I assume you'll be posting a link to my picture on a regular basis. Well, have fun. Let me know if you ever get a life.