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Oregon Is Growing A Mystery Bulge
nedwolf writes "LiveScience is reporting that a 100 square mile bulge has been rising in Oregon. First observed from a satellite using a relatively new technology called 'radar interferometry', some believe this to be the formation of a new volcano. I think it's just happy to see me."
To put things into perspective here's recent quakes throught the US, notice the activity in the state of California, to the south.
Back in the late 90's there were swarms of minor earthquakes around the Long Valley Caldera, the vicinity of California where Mammoth Lakes and Mammoth Mountain are located. Swarms of earth quakes, 4.0 (Richter) and lower, most lower than 2.0, were up to 600 per 24 hours for a period of about two weeks, and ground elevations were observed changing (similarly to those in Oregon) slightly, but as you can see all is quiet and nothing happened. Long Valley is the caldera of a very large, dormant volcano.
Here is a good example of a swarm of aftershocks.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
When asked for comment, Oregon said, "I can't help it! California's been rubbing against me for millions of years!"
But I thought America's wang was Florida.
Good afternoon, gentlemen. As you are all no doubt aware, I have perfected a device capable of generating volcanoes at my whim. Even now I have raised a titanic bulge of liquid hot mag-ma under the state of Oregon. This device, which I've dubbed 'The Erupteron', has passed its field test with flying colors, I'm sure you'll agree...
You see, gentlemen, 'The Erupteron' will be used to generate bulges under one of your major cities every six hours, causing them to sink into firey hot mag-ma, utterly destroying them...that is...unless you pay me...
One hundred billion trillion fafillion dollahs!!!
(cue dramatic music)
Gentleman, you have my demands...peace out.
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~ |rip/\/\aster /\/\onkey
The U.S. hit puberty and Oregon got the country's first zit
A shield volcano is formed when a large pool of magma forms and pushes the land above it upwards. These types are not likely to erupt, though they will erupt violently if the magma is able to push through the surface (kind of like a giant geologic pimple). These volcanos are great for tourism because of the typically accompanying hot springs and year-round greenery.
I like Oregon a lot. I just wish it were easier to get to.
Jesus saved me from my past. He can save you as well.
Now a vulcano... God is really starting to dislike America.
perpetually dwelling in the -1 pits
A volcano in your pocket?
Ichi
Is it really abnormal? Or is it just another as-yet-unheard-of natural phenomena? Or is it just another glitch in computers running Micro$oft crap?
Not only "land of the free" but "land of the lawyers" who love a good old 1st amendment smackdown. Shihar 153932
After all, somebody could be hiding WMDs down there!
I think I saw this on TV once. Fortunately, at the end of the episode, they reveal it really wasn't a volcano, but only a goider or something like that.
Just as long it's not a giant pimple.
There'll be hell to pay when that thing bursts.
Summation 2
Major earthquake exercise under way in Russian Far East
According to research conducted by the International Institute of Earthquake Prediction Theory and Mathematical Geophysics, there is at least a 30% probability of an earthquake with a 7.2-magnitude or higher in the area of Kamchatka and the Kuril Islands before mid-December.
The ministry's regional forces have been on alert since early August.
In looking at the map on the IRIS Seismic Monitor web site, it appears that the Kamchatka peninsula and the volcanic activity in Oregon may have something in common: both regions lie along the same fault line. The Indonesian tsunami, quakes near Taiwan and Japan, and recent earthquakes in Alaska and California all seem to lie along the same fault line.
There's supposed to be one in Yellowstone Park (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4326987 .stm)which has been bulging for some time now. If this is indeed another one, then the fallout from Katrina is going to seem mild in comparison.
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silas
People write volumes about the possibility of a meteor impact, and what could be done to prevent it, while ignoring the larger threat that lies beneath us.
If we knew a giant volcano was likely to form somewhere, what could possibly be done about it?
Aside from moving people out of harm's way, would it be possible to, say, drill a bunch of holes in it and relieve pressure?
(This is a very interesting read, if you haven't stumbled across it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supervolcano)
since when are volcanos square? must be some giant square monolith planted by aliens years ago rising out of the ground
Pretty cool either way though. If there is a correlation it could be very useful predictive data.
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
Maybe it's an omen that in the near future, something near Redmond, WA will FINALLY challenge Mt. Whistler! ;)
Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something. -Heinlein
Ahnold: It's not a tumoh!
The days of the digital watch are numbered.
...using a relatively new technology called 'radar interferometry'..."
Wow WW2 technology is new?
Don't be surpriesed when you hear from 'LASER interferometry'
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Queue the order for a giant Rolaid, clothespin, or can of Lysol.
This might be another super volcano? I don't know enough about the subject, but I've read about it in the past here
May this post be indexed by spiders, and archived for all to see as my Internet epitaph.
Locusts are next...
"Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
Yellowstone National Park has the same problem, only it's many thousand times more problematic for the region. Even lake shorelines have been altered due to the rising crust.
I would say moving people out of harms way is probably not even possible either. The whole world would be effected. Also, I'd rather not do anything. Any attempts to relieve pressure would probably result in the volcanoe blowing up. All we can do is wait for the magma chamber to move underneath a mountain.
Ooo man the floppy drive is broken. No wait. The computer is just upside down.
After all, now there's just more of it to love.
My comments are my own, and do not represent the views of my employer, my spouse, my children, or my cats.
Boioioioioioioinnnnnng!
Welcome our new molten overlords
Threatened by everything these days, eh?
Meteorites, Volcanoes, Whirlwinds, Porn and Evil...
It sure must suck to have to watch US television.
I don't care about a volcano poping up in my backyard, as long as the Bush administration is not in charge of evacuating my ass.
IF I recall a documentry I watched a few years ago correcly, then Yellowstone park is a giant super volcano, that many hundresds of thousnads or millions of years ago was much much further north (I forget which present day state), could this be a new super volcano forming in the same orginal area?
(rember if yellostone blows it's top, say bye bye to life in North America)
It's where they stash their weed.
...Longhorn. Or Blackcomb.
You can hold down the "B" button for continuous firing.
Is the land available for commercial development?
Based on where developers seem to like to put housing and commercial developments this would be perfect!
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We've invaded a country for trumped up reasons in order to settle a personal debt our Chief Executive Officer has about a conflict his father had with the leader of said nation.
And we're proceeding to screw over the invaded nation and our own society to line corporate pockets.
And we've done it all without having any kind of an understanding of the local populace or how to get a stable government up and running.
If the Muslims have it right and the Jews and Christians have it wrong, then God is going to be PISSED. Hell, he'll probably be pissed either way. This is starting to look like the next round in a divine smack down.
Remember, he only promised to never use a flood to destroy the entire Earth. No guarantees were made about using floods to destroy parts of it, or using other means to wipe the Earth clean.
"Live Free or Die." Don't like it? Then keep out of the USA
... Arnold could say "It's not a tumah!"
Be sure to remember the Programmers Prayer
Unfortunetly I know the cause of the bulge around my waist. The end of summer cookouts should help.
Seriously though, if you have ever been to the Three Sisters Wilderness you quickly see that the whole area is one huge mass of old cones and lava flows. It is like hiking on the moon in some places.
It is by the juice of the coffee bean that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains. The stains become a warning
It's the Chinese commies who dig a tunnel (yeah, it's that big!) through Earth to attack the U.S. from it's least defended spot... Oregon.
Isn't that amazing. Anybody want to buy my vacation property at Black Butte Ranch?
BTM
That was the turning point of my life--I went from negative zero to positive zero.
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
I am afraid of when the wet dreams begin.
No, a shield volcano is formed when low-viscosity basaltic magma gradually erupts from vents or fissures. Shield volcanoes only explode when large amounts of water get involved. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield_volcano for a nice brief writeup.
It's only a volcano if stuff squirts out of the top.
You never really know how close to the edge you can go until you fall off.
Has anyone looked toward their Garbage Removal manager? is Oregon going to be picking up & moving to Washington?
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~me~
Silly slashdot wants comment bodies.
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The natives keep removing the signs pointing to the state.
Remember; Don't Californicate Oregon.
You ever get the feeling that we are on the receiving end of someone that got tired of playing Sim City and is now just unleashing disasters and seeing what will happen.
A week and a half ago, I climbed South Sister for the first time. Again, no sacrificial maiden (they're hard to find in Oregon.) The clock is ticking.
Is that a precipice in your pocket, or are you just pleased to see me?
At 1.4 inches a year, and growing since 1997, that puts it at a whopping 11.2 inches. I'd say that qualifies as being VERY happy to see you.
George Bush.
i mean, seriously.
Who was the one that directed the storms to cruch the beloved city of debauchery to placate Baby Jesus?
George Bush.
Who causes the Great Barrier Reef to be destroyed from pollutants coming mainly from Asia?
George Bush.
Who caused the Challenger and the Discovery to blow up over WHERE!!!!! Florida and Texas?!??!?!
George Bush.
damn skippy.
guns kill people like spoons make Rosie O'Donnell fat.
If I was under three sisters I'd be bulging too.
Q: How many Californians does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Six. One to turn the bulb, one for support, and four to relate to the experience.
Q: How many Oregonians does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: Five. One to change the bulb and four more to chase off the Californians who have come up to relate to the experience
--From the The Cannonical [sic] Collection of Light Bulb Jokes, Usenet, October 1983 Edition
Welcome to the Panopticon. Used to be a prison, now it's your home.
After going dormant, it changed its name to the Long Valley SCO Group. Then it started suing all the other volcanos for emitting greenhouse gases, which its predecessor in interest, Mt. St. Helens, invented.
Please try to get your facts straight next time, ok?
Raise your children as if you were teaching them to raise your grandchildren, because you are.
Younger readers may need an explanation of this phrase. The idea is that when a male sees someone to whom they are sexually attracted they may become aroused and one aspect of arousal is penile erection. This can result in a (sometimes embarassing) bulge in the pants. The author of this story is implying that Oregon, or at least part of it, is sexually aroused by them, and that this bulge is analogous to that caused by an erection. It may come as a shock to you that a story posted on /. that is ostensibly about volcanos contains references to penile erections. You may have thought that only immature individuals would make penis jokes as part of a scientific story. But actually adults do this all the time and now that you have read this you too can join other adults in making penis jokes at seemingly inappropriate times.
Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
They can fix any natural disaster and have tons of foresight.
What does this make Cuba then ?
How is this news? I remember reading about this in 2000 or so, and they don't seem to have much more information now than they did then. Why did this get posted? Don't get me wrong, I think this is an extremely interesting little bit of geologic investigation, but the article doesn't have anything new other than that it "is still growing".
Also, given the number of volcanos we've actually seen form (none), and given that vulcanology is not an exact science, it would be premature to assume that volcanos can't form rapidly. All we can really say is that the data implies that slow formation is by far the most common form.
What is needed, for an explosive volcanc eruption, is a massive buildup of pressure and a blockage such that the pressure cannot be released gradually. There is absolutely nothing to say that this could not happen in a new volcano, if the geology of the area is such that seeping to the surface is impossible.
Most regular explosive eruptions are caused by lava solidifying and blocking the throat of the volcano, followed by a massive rise in pressure that will destroy the blockage (and often part of the volcanic cone). Mount St. Helens was a good example of this. So was Krakatoa.
This only applies when the lava has a very high silica content, so that the lava flows poorly. In areas like Hawaii, where the lava is "thin" and runs relatively easily, you don't generally get many cones and those won't generally block often. This, in some ways, is worse because lava flows will be more common, cover a larger area and therefore be more destructive.
The plugs in highly viscous lava volcanos only form when there is a long period of dormacy. So, for example, Mount Vesuvius is unlikely to explode. The temperature remains high enough for plugs not to form. Mount Hood, on the other hand, has been dormant for a couple of hundred years. Not long enough to form a massive plug, but long enough that when it goes, it'll make Mount St. Helens look like a sunday school outing.
The (possibly active) volcanos on Mars may not have erupted in the past thousand years. The plug that will have formed in that time will be considerable, so the pressure required to blast it out must also be considerable. If any were to go off, it will likely destroy the entire cone, as per Krakatoa, and will create seismic shockwaves infinitely worse than those from the 26th December earthquake.
(In fact, it would be good to know if those volcanos are due to explode, as we could learn a lot about the interior of Mars from the shockwaves.)
Back to Earth, though - it depends on the forces required to cause the bulge detected. Igneous rock doesn't flex too easily. It also depends on the breaking point. If the rock is such that to cause a bulge of the size and height detected, energy comparable to a major volvanic eruption would be required, AND the rock will catastrophically fail on flexing beyond a critical point, THEN a sudden and major eruption is entirely possible.
The seismic data others have linked to indicate that this is NOT the case, that there is no major pressure buildup, and none of the earthquakes associated with such a buildup. Most likely, this is magma rising to the surface, much as it did in places like Dartmoor, England. No big deal, but will be a good source of granite in a few million years.
The important point, though, is that sudden explosive events CAN happen, that there is nothing impossible about them, that they will be confined to very specific physical and geological conditions, which means they'll be rare, but because they are possible, we should recognize and accept that fact. It is only by accepting it, and then investing in the physical sciences to better understand the geologic processes involved, that we'll be able to prevent volcanos being a threat in the future.
Ignorance and denial are the two biggest killers, when it comes to volcanos and earthquakes. The geological processes themselves are merely the blunt instruments of choice.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Will this new "Buldge" be included in the next version of "The Oregon Trail"?
i don't care
Now we know where they dump all the damaged or otherwise unsalable Viagra. Took awhile to leach into the groundwater, but there you have it.
I am pretty sure that Canada will gladly cede Saskatchewan to the US to make the map of North America look really cool!
If the lightning starts I'm headed for the mountains.
Go fig.
What the fuck are you babbling about? Off your meds today?
"Who are in control, they are not in control of anything - they don't even control themselves!" - Glen Beck
You don't need a source of lava. Google for "ground source heat pumps". Far more efficient than direct electric or gas heating and AC.
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His Noodily Appendage works in awesome and mysterious ways.
If His Noodliness says Oregon needs a bulge, then it shall be so.
Many years ago I took a geology class to fill in some needed credits so I may not be remembering this correctly, but I think I remember that fissure volcanoes are long cracks that spill magma and that they've never been seen in modern times. These are what created the basalt cap that covers much of eastern Washington and Oregon millions of years ago. Could we be getting ready to see another one of these?
...the girls are looking quick perky this time of year. I hear cold weather does a bit of good... lol
-- Game Developers: Stop porting badly-textured games from crappy console systems!
Remember; Don't Californicate Oregon.
Saw the same thing in Seattle. It is curious to see these former lumberjacks basking in their wealth complaining about the Californians who made that wealth possible in the first place.
As they say, you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink...
The sad thing is how true this is.. My house has raised in value 40% in one year in Oregon.. (I live about 20 minutes from the California Border). This is because people are selling their $600,000 2 bed, 1 bath, no garage house in CA, and moving up to Oregon. They think our houses are a steal at their current prices.. (no, this is not flamebait, I have 3 coworkers that have sold 2-3 bedroom houses in suburbia down there, and have bought ranches here)
What are we going to do tonight Brain?
A shield volcano is formed when a large pool of magma forms and pushes the land above it upwards. These types are not likely to erupt, though they will erupt violently if the magma is able to push through the surface (kind of like a giant geologic pimple). These volcanos are great for tourism because of the typically accompanying hot springs and year-round greenery.
Um, no. Not even close.
A shield volcano is formed by eruptions of basalt, a very fluid magma, creating a gently-sloping broad-based volcano.
For example, all the Hawaiian islands are shield volcanoes. Newberry caldera in Oregon is a shield volcano.
USGS info page on shield volcanoes.
I like Oregon a lot. I just wish it were easier to get to.
We make difficult on purpose.
"Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives" should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
At least according to Strong Bad
Who said Freedom was Fair?
Q: How many Californians does it take to scew in a lightbulb?
A: None. Californians don't screw in lightbulbs; they screw in hot tubs.
The end of microsoft is near! That bulge will erupt into a giant fountain of lava...raining down death and destruction to the evil corporation once and for all. I might have to buy some stock in microsoft once the market is "hot"...har har har
Damn that Utah really gets around.
Associating natural disasters with the will of some deity is the same non-thinking tripe that got us a world of fear and oppressive myths in the first place. "Oh no, what did we do to make god mad. God must not be mad at me because I wasn't affected by the disaster, and you must have done some horrendous sin to suffer so greatly."
(speaking mostly to grandparent)
If your mind can't handle the fact that these things just happen, without any true overarching reason, then maybe you should board yourself in your church and just stay there, where you can live out a life associating arbitrary catastophre with the will of a deity. The rest of us will be living in the real world, where we don't assume the victims of natural disasters are heretics suffering gods wrath.
Q: How many Oregonians does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: Five. One to change the bulb and four more to write environmental impact statements.
Posting a dupe once every 5 years would be a HUGH improvement for the /. editors.
This doesn't look like the kind of thing that would scale well into a power plant. I was thinking more of mid-scale electricity generation.
You can never go home again... but I guess you can shop there.
Two Wild and Crazy Guys-
Georg Festrunk: We cruised for them in our tight slacks which give us great bulges!
The US needs tights slacks again!
Throw me a frick'n bone here.
A Californian a Texan and an Oregonian are sittin around a fire sipping their evening beverage.
Texan pulls out a 45 caliber hog leg, tosses his empty of Lone Star Beer up in the air, and plugs it dead center.
Californian finishes his mulled Petite Sara, tosses the wine bottle in the air and shatters it with one round from a Saturday night special.
The Oregonian takes a last sip of his bottled Starbucks Late`, tosses it in the air, grabs his deer rifle, plugs the Californian and catches the bottle
"Why'd ya go and do THAT?" says the Texan.
"Because", says the Oregonian, "We have plenty of those up here" gesturing at the dead Californian, "and this", holding up the bottle, "is worth FIVE CENTS!"
- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, minutus carborata descendum pantorum.
Q. How many Oregonians does it take to change a light bulb?
A. None, because they have have somebody come out to do it for them.
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
What's the "Bulge's" positional relationship to The Grand Canyon? It appears evident that it's obviously taking an approach to the Missionary Position...
-my inner racer is pointing at him and laughing.-
News Flash: "New technology has recently uncovered long thought lost texts from Pompeii. Records of the days preceeding catastrophic eruption of Mount Vesuvius indicate that it was a failure on the part of the Bush (ancient ancestor of the current US president) Administration and FEMA (Feudal Emergency Management Authority) to act in the weeks prior to the fatal occurance, even though the indications were clear that a catastrophe was imminent."
It doesn't. It's for domestic space/water heating and air conditioning. Most electricity is used for space/water heating and air conditioning. Heat pumps are just a 300%-400% more efficient way of doing it.
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This was news two years ago. It isn't news now.
At the time the Portland (read: ignorant city people) TV stations were saying, "The South Sister is getting ready to blow! Details at 11 pm."
But no, it isn't getting ready to erupt. Well, MAYBE... sometime in the next 100 years... IF the pool of magma keeps moving...
And no, we can't tap it for geothermal energy. It's in a Wilderness area, and no matter how much the Environmentalist Wackos scream about their glo-bull warming myth, there's no way they're going to allow a geothermal plant in a Wilderness area.
In times of universal deceit, telling the truth gets you modded -1 Troll
I know what it is.. Its the Chinese poking through!!! HOLY CRAP!
Yeah, but Nintendo of America is there too! I need to satisfy my addiction!
Has there been any strange electrical storm activlity in the area? Hmm
Slashdot - Where the slash is most definitely to the left.
In Michigan people use the palm of their hand to reference where a place is.
How true.
I used to joke that you could tell people from Michigan because they always carried their maps with them.
Figured out how to do the U.P, Traverse Bay, and Ontario (both in scale with the other' hand's L.P. map using thumb and folded in index finger, or full size using a "thumbs down".)
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
lol
Damn, that's gonna take one big ass stridex pad.
:P
But then I guess we could always try popping it if you don't mind making a crater.
DEAD DEAD DEAD DELETE ME
Starbucks? I've heard this one a hundred times... where the hell did Starbucks come from?
Damn near ruined the joke. We're beer central, and your telling jokes about us drinking coffee? (If so it shoulda been something actually good, like Dutch Bros or something.)
Usually the Texan has a generic beer like bud or coors. The Californian has a bottle of wine. And the Oregonian is drinking some good stuff, like a bottle of Black Butte Porter, or another of the fantastic local brews.
Can you stick one under New Orleans, it's a bit damp at the moment and we'd like to dry it out.
Also: 10 cm is a pretty wimpy bump. Could you maybe jack it up about 25 feet so we can get rid of those darn fragle levies and avoid this problem in the future?
Thanks.
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
At the 98th Annual Meeting of the Cordilleran Section of the Geological Society of America (May 13-15, 2002), in Corvallis, Oregon, there were several papers on this bulge in the "Hazards and Risks from Cascade Volcanoes" session. Apparently it was discovered in April 2001; the GSA even sent out a press release about the bulge in May 2002.
I've been growing a Mystery Bulge for years. No matter how much I sit in front of my computer drinking pop, it just keeps getting bigger.
And they're both in Washington, where as Bend is in Oregon and a fair distance from Microsoft & Nintendo of America's offices. So nothing to worry about... for you. Or for me either, as I live a fair distance away from Bend,
Zagreus sits inside your head, Zagreus lives among the dead, Zagreus sees you in your bed and eats you in your sleep.
Everybody run! The Giant Fungus is rising! It will consume your very soul!
Aaraggghhh!
Don't act like you're not impressed!
Just walking off a situation here...
You mande me laugh out loud in the computer room. I'm ashamed now.
(This will make sense if read completely.) A simple observation of the white tailed deer may offer an insight into the current events of the natural world. The deer, when their herds become to large, often experience wide spread disease. The question we must ask ourselves: Why do the deer become ill if the population grows to large? There must be some mechanism in nature which responds to the growing population and causes the disease. This mechanism is the lack of food. The theory of evolution suggests that the less novel (less original ways of getting food) and weaker (cannot fight for the food) deer will be the ones who starve and become more vulnerable to disease. If unchecked the disease will eventually become so serious the deer die. Then the population is reduced. I propose that there are multiple mechanisms which regulate the population of all life. I will also propose that if one mechanism is not successful in controlling the population of a given species that another method will then prevail. I will finally state the obvious: 1) humans are an animal species, 2) we are vulnerable to disease, however we can treat disease, 3) because we can treat disease nature now responds with natural destruction. I must make perfectly clear that this is not a Gaia theory, I do not propose that the planet is alive. The supernatural need not explain this behavior. The Earth is merely a self-regulating system, and nothing more.
Is that hot volcanic mag-mah under your mountain range, or are you just happy to see me?
....for the state and local employees in the PERS state retirement program.
Since with 30 yrs in at 52 years young, you can retire at 108% of base pay, forever.
Yes, here in Oregon, you can retire from govt, but we will continue to pay you forever.
America, what a country!!!
There's also a large part of Yosemite National Park in California (state just below Oregon) that has been bulging as well. And scientists have conclusive proof that it is due to volcanic pressure centered under a large lake there in the park. What if the Oregon bulge and the Yosemite bulge were to trigger each other? Or even worse, what if they became one giant bulge? Wanna talk super-volcanoes? lol. I dont think there'd be anything left of half the United States if it were to blow under those circumstances.
It takes just a moment and an action to destroy. It takes some time and thought to create.
Perhaps the state saw the latest Scarlett Johanson movie... rawr!
Actually, When I said that. I was referring to yellowstone . Sorry about that.
Ooo man the floppy drive is broken. No wait. The computer is just upside down.
Hehe.
It's better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.
- E. Debs
Is he a dream (ahh ...), or is he a dud?
Open the door for your Mystery Bulge!
She is learning the lesson from New Orleans.
And from the tsunami. Scary times.
"Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
This is Oregon, land of potheads, we're talking about.
They say the mind is the first thing to
All the adolescent "bulge" jokes aside, if you're interested in the technology used in this sort of situation, I may have a few links of interest. And while the technology is *relatively* new, it's not *brand* new. ASF alone has been doing this since 1991, and we aren't the first.
The Alaska Satellite Facility (ASF) - This is where I work. We gather SAR data (Synthetic Aperture Radar) and do a lot of interferometric processing. Certainly cool stuff. This data can be used to create DEMs (Digital Elevation...Maps? Models? Can't remember which), among other things. Definitely good to check out. Grab the Antarctica Mosaic! It's huge, and we have one of all of Alaska, as well! Check out the facility's page here: http://www.asf.alaska.edu/ and the SAR FAQ can be found here: http://www.asf.alaska.edu/3_1.html
The second one is the Geographic Information Network of Alaska (GINA) which is a more general source of geo-information. If you go to the SwathViewer, there is a ton of data available, everything from road maps to DEMs to SAR data to "Blue Marble"...definitely worth a look-see. Right here: http://www.gina.alaska.edu/
There is a *ton* of information out there, and those two places are a great start. Check 'em out!
Their may be a grammatical error, misspeling, or evn a typo in this post.
These people might:
:)
http://www.rense.com/earthchanges/emfmind.htm
Google search for HAARP and weather modification.
Never mind that if we had that kind of power available to us, we wouldn't have an energy crisis.
Just because it CAN be done, doesn't mean it should!
Its just some magma on its way to the big blow out being planned in Yellowstone....complete with fireworks!!!!!
Yes, but that's not what he was talking about. He was talking about this kind of thing, as should have been transparently clear.
And the brethren went away edified.
It's Bush's fault!!!!!! The draft dodging chimp!!!!
Clearly he has reaimed his evil weather machine from the Gulf to the West Coast!!!
Damn him, this can only be because his Halliburton puppet masters plan to profit from the reconstruction after they explode Oregon!!
It's Bush and Rove who cut bulge funding!! When we had President Clinton he tried to control bulging in the White House, but the Evil Newt kept pushing interns at him.
We need to elect Hillary. With her on TV everyday there will be an end to all bulging in this country.
You can tell that's a joke from Oregon because no other state would think of putting and oregonian in one of their jokes.
-pyrrho
The myth isn't whether the Earth is warming. There IS a slight (very slight) warming ever since the Little Ice Age ended a hundred or so years ago. No responsible climatologist disputes that.
It's the rest of the environmentalist mythmaking that is causing serious havoc in our nation & world: That the warming is human-caused, that it will continue increasing for a century or more, and that it will have devastating effects on Earth's ecosystems and climates.
A lie, no matter how often repeated, no matter how popularly it is believed, is still a lie. The FACTS remain that THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS that the recent short-term temperature fluctuations are human-caused, and history shows that there are no devastating effects from global warming.
Indeed, if the 200-year-long Medieval Warming Period of a thousand years ago (when global temperatures rose a little bit higher than is forcasted for our time) is any indication -- and it is -- then we are in for a period of peace, social progress, and calmer weather. Check your history books: there were some significant advances in human culture during that time, and none of the global catastophes that are being predicted by the left-wing doomsayers ever happened.
That's why I'm not a Leftist any more. Lies are all they have to offer -- in any debate in which they engage.
In times of universal deceit, telling the truth gets you modded -1 Troll
has actually been around for quite ahile...check out the Jet Propulsion site on it. They've been using it for years to do terrain modeling.
the only place I have ever seen with a 360 view of a completely roadless area
Then you haven't spent much time in the Oregon Cascades, have you?
I have. I've gone backpacking in the area of the bulge. Just got back a week ago from another wilderness trip, in fact. Go to my website to see some stunning photos of various Oregon wilderness areas.
Yeah, I'm a Wilderness user -- AND I vehemently oppose the environmentalist agenda. Guess what? I'm not a "black-or-white" thinker.
But this is all beside the point. The point is that the environmentalists have no concept of the wise use of resources.... that their self-contradictory absolutism is creating problems, not solving them.
In times of universal deceit, telling the truth gets you modded -1 Troll
You need to watch those people when they move to florida.
That's less than a foot bulge in 8 years. The Earth's shape changes daily due to gravitational pull of the moon. How due they know its not just the Earth not quite returning to its original shape on subsequent passes of the moon over the years?
If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people
the end is near! Repent of your sins! Bring out your dead!
Tell fema to start planning now, maybe by then they will be able to save someone or maybe even get water to the victims!
He should replace Zonk. Seriously, he could really do something great for slashdot. Bring back its golden years or something.
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Bonk the Zonk!
Trolling all trolls since 2001
They did say America was getting fatter. Silly me, I thought they meant the citizens!
jeez... we get all worked up over a little swelling, which 90% of adolescents have experienced. it's called PUBERTY people! meanwhile, we've got crazy ol' Aunt Floe workin her magic down south and leavin us to deal with her mood swings. has anyone noticed just how crazy this country is?
there've been many many "sightings" of possible volcanoes for years... hell, they just a few years ago announced that Yellowstone was about ready to blow, but you don't hear anything more about that...hmm. wonder why?
I know exactly what he was talking about. However this is just as much geothermal as that and is far cheaper, more practical and useful.
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or are you just happy to see me...
You see, Oregon and I have been...freinds for a long time now, and recently we took our relationship to the next level. Despite our best contraceptive precautions (me wearing latex and her being, um, inanimate) we have concieved a magma-based bastard lovechild which, it is assumed, will be ostracized by the other kids in Oregon's public school system. This will probably be due to their single-minded "earth-science" courses, which can't possibly explain the existence of the overwhelming variation seen in today's geology! However, for now there are more pressing matters than the fight for Intelligent Topography.
According to modern psychogeological child-rearing theory, this peer rejection may set a course for him/her to become a raging, city-destroying monster. Or a stoned computer afficionado. As Kermit said, it's not easy being a glowing mass of illegitimate molton earth-spume.
Any help you can give will be appreciated. We will be registered at Saks Fifth Avenue and the Yellowstone Gift Shop.
If you knew what he was talking about, why did you insist on twisting it in a different direction?
And the brethren went away edified.
Look at this comment and some of the responses. The story is 99% jokes about oregonians and 1% highly informative diatribes on volcanoes and vulcanism. It stands out like a vien of gold in a big wall of quartz.
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
my best cousin lives there...
but you know how brother's trash talk.
cheers.
PS: send. more. wood.
-pyrrho
Tehama California used to have a super-volcano. Things like Mt. Lassen are leftovers from its explosion.
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