This kind of exploit was common in the first generation of MMORPGs, we had overlaid maps that show the movement, and threat level of all NPCs & PCs, invisible or otherwise in DAOC, movement cheats in EQ1 iirc, tradskill bots in EQ & SWG.
Blizzard is pitching itself against the second generation MMOPRGs (of which EQ2 is the first) and it is interesting that it should fall into the same traps as the previous generation. Part of my decision to play EQ2 was the fact that Sony/Verant have had years of experience therefore hopefully the game will benefit from this whereas WoW is a new player.
As the first two weeks of my EQ2 pass by I can say that I am pleased with my decision. Good luck to WoW perhaps I'll play it when I'm bored of EQ2 in six months time.
Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore,if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it.
my least favourite in internet explorer is that if you have a site that is delivered chunked via mod_gzip and press refresh IE decides that you only wanted the last chunk !
Ok, what about finding that if you led a mob down a certain path that it got stuck behind rocks out of melee range and you could spell it to death with zero risk ? (The Overthere - Everquest)
What about finding that you could should mobs with bleed shots and run out of their range before they fired back, repeat until they die ? (SWG)
Is this cheating? Is this morally rupugnent?
It certainly reduces the challenge of the game.
From my perspective unless you are using an external program to manipulate the packets or inputs then everything is fair game.
if it's just to run IE you might want to look into booting over PXE making your windows installations somewhat read only when it comes to programs and certainly takes the headache out of administering 200 installations
but hey, you made a bad choice tying yourself to Windows, pay the price
The same world where crapflooding, flaming, trolling, spelling correction and even just writing stuff that no-one really cares about all passes for entertainment.
The band members were scanned in, two of which you can see pilotting the plane in this shot
however the tiger in this one I rotated and scanned in by hand on a flatbed scanner and then used photoshop to build profiles and then used the extruder to make it 3d, took me about 8 hours !
What should be done is to simply put pressure on the ISPs hosting these spammers
perhaps a co-ordinated ddos on their networks resulting in higher bandwidth costs for them as deliverers of spam and thus blocking their mail and web servers that sell the goods.
An Act to make provision for securing computer material against unauthorised access or modification; and for connected purposes.
Be it enacted by the Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:--
Computer misuse offences
Unauthorised access to computer material.
1.--
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if--
(a) he causes a computer to perform any function with intent to secure access to any program or data held in any computer;
(b) the access he intends to secure is unauthorised; and
(c) he knows at the time when he causes the computer to perform the function that that is the case.
(2) The intent a person has to have to commit an offence under this section need not be directed at--
(a) any particular program or data;
(b) a program or data of any particular kind; or
(c) a program or data held in any particular computer.
(3) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or to both.
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So it could be argued that authorisation is required *before* attempting to access. Leaving the gates unlocked is not an invitaion to enter.
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This kind of exploit was common in the first generation of MMORPGs, we had overlaid maps that show the movement, and threat level of all NPCs & PCs, invisible or otherwise in DAOC, movement cheats in EQ1 iirc, tradskill bots in EQ & SWG.
Blizzard is pitching itself against the second generation MMOPRGs (of which EQ2 is the first) and it is interesting that it should fall into the same traps as the previous generation. Part of my decision to play EQ2 was the fact that Sony/Verant have had years of experience therefore hopefully the game will benefit from this whereas WoW is a new player.
As the first two weeks of my EQ2 pass by I can say that I am pleased with my decision. Good luck to WoW perhaps I'll play it when I'm bored of EQ2 in six months time.
you could at least attribute it :
Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore,if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it.
-- Brian W. Kernighan
more here
my least favourite in internet explorer is that if you have a site that is delivered chunked via mod_gzip and press refresh IE decides that you only wanted the last chunk !
Ok, what about finding that if you led a mob down a certain path that it got stuck behind rocks out of melee range and you could spell it to death with zero risk ? (The Overthere - Everquest)
What about finding that you could should mobs with bleed shots and run out of their range before they fired back, repeat until they die ? (SWG)
Is this cheating? Is this morally rupugnent?
It certainly reduces the challenge of the game.
From my perspective unless you are using an external program to manipulate the packets or inputs then everything is fair game.
I have to disagree that it was a bad dicision
well, stop moaning about it then
if it's just to run IE you might want to look into booting over PXE making your windows installations somewhat read only when it comes to programs and certainly takes the headache out of administering 200 installations
but hey, you made a bad choice tying yourself to Windows, pay the price
Sounds great, so about switching my company to Linux
Is that what it would take, some minor contractual quibble over some software you don't really want ?
hey, ackbar, it's a trap !!
The same world where crapflooding, flaming, trolling, spelling correction and even just writing stuff that no-one really cares about all passes for entertainment.
lets look at other stuff
jigsaws
crosswords
walking
bird watching
they aren't call pastimes for nothing !
And everyone at slashdot bitches when they do!
for some values of everyone
nonsense
The human brain can process about 37 individual "pictures" per second..
then how come I can see a single field error in video running at 50 fields per second ?
sony do a video camera with an extra channel for depth information
real world models need to be shot from 360degrees and thus are usually recorded while static, the camera revolves around them
we used such a system for our Boo Radleys video
The band members were scanned in, two of which you can see pilotting the plane in this shot
however the tiger in this one I rotated and scanned in by hand on a flatbed scanner and then used photoshop to build profiles and then used the extruder to make it 3d, took me about 8 hours !
Could you explain to me how a spell checker would help spot "coral" as a mistake ?
What should be done is to simply put pressure on the ISPs hosting these spammers
....
perhaps a co-ordinated ddos on their networks resulting in higher bandwidth costs for them as deliverers of spam and thus blocking their mail and web servers that sell the goods.
oh wait
drag and drop !!!
fuck off back to windows, thanks
Here's our UK legislation :
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Computer Misuse Act 1990
An Act to make provision for securing computer material against unauthorised access or modification; and for connected purposes.
Be it enacted by the Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, in this present Parliament assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:--
Computer misuse offences
Unauthorised access to computer material.
1.--
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if--
(a) he causes a computer to perform any function with intent to secure access to any program or data held in any computer;
(b) the access he intends to secure is unauthorised; and
(c) he knows at the time when he causes the computer to perform the function that that is the case.
(2) The intent a person has to have to commit an offence under this section need not be directed at--
(a) any particular program or data;
(b) a program or data of any particular kind; or
(c) a program or data held in any particular computer.
(3) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale or to both.
------------------
So it could be argued that authorisation is required *before* attempting to access. Leaving the gates unlocked is not an invitaion to enter.
if you have to ask, you never will
lol, you fucking idiot
I can't even be bothered
I consider it worthy.
E17 has been one of those packages you had to annoyingly build by hand and keep another working WM handy once you'd finished having a look.
*you* might not be nerdy enough if you think this isn't interesting.
you do know that it was a 7 PC sandbox test that went wrong yes ?
if it was Linux / Unix the sensible thing would be boot via PXE
rolling back would then be a relatively simple process
lol, you *must* work for a govt. agency, perhaps education ?
incedents : incidents
insuring : ensuring
usuall : usual
or 0.01 meters as we say in science
thats a neat system but there are more covert ways of sending data