The only way to prevent attacks like this is to be a nice country, and to make sure that anybody who ever does something like this is shortly in very serious pain. We haven't done much of the first, and should possibly rethink how we deal with the world. The second is absolutely necessary for our continued freedom.
As Teddy Roosevelt said "Walk softly and carry a big stick."
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eBay won because they were big, established, and profitable. They also had clear non-infringing uses of their service established.
Napster was percieved as an upstart pirate of a company, and that's why they lost.
I don't think it has a great deal to do with the letter of the law here, but how the companies were percieved by the respective judges.
MASS is a physical quantity. "kilogram" is a "unit" of that quantity. defining it in terms of the "mass of a proton" makes no sense because thats essentially a *circular* argument.
if you;re gonna construct a vast edifice of science, the foundation better be damn rigorous! this isnt just semantics, its essential, the way that we have to be absolutely sure that 2 + 2 = 4 (which can be derived from the Completeness property of the Real number Set). A good reference for basic units and quantities is here [amazon.com].
So, this means that you think the mass of a proton is going to change?
Using atomic fountains it's actually feasible to get well known number of protons together in a group that's possible to accurately measure the mass of. I think that basing it on something like this is an excellent way to define it. Simple, easy to intuitively grasp, and doesn't involve any hairy adjustments for gravity.
You could define a kilogram as the amount of water in a cubic decimeter. Or, you could define it as the mass of 6.02 * 10^23 protons, or any number of other ways. I don't understand how this measurement they intend to make with the device they have will be any more accurate or easier to deal with.
You could even define it as the energy in some huge number of photons of a particular wavelength.:-)
I'm betting that he did use PGP and they just used surveilance to crack his private key password, or (less likely) he chose a bad private key password.
I'm betting it's a surveilance, keystroke logging thing again.
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Digital Rights Management, like Smart Tags, is a feature that is not enabled by default and is very easy to change. In Windows Media Player, for example, one can easily turn off the copyright protection on WMA files with a checkbox. I'm assuming you have never used Windows Media Player 7.0 and above?
So, will it ignore copyright tags in files you get from other places. Sure it won't include them in stuff you create, but how about in other files? Even if it does, what's to say this feature won't go away, and the original software stop working at some point in the future?
I'll have to look into that. It seems like I'd have to get a tunnelled address anyway if I wanted to both be on the 6bone and use 6to4. If I wanted the best IPV6 connectivity I could get, that sounds like the way to go.
Interestingly enough, I can use that same SLA and interface addresses in both the 6bone, and the 6to4 address space. That's kinda neat.:-)
Since I'm going to be doing lots of NAT anyway to make this all work, maybe I'll just use site addressing inside my network, and translate the 48 bit prefix address to make it look like I'm on whatever network I happen to be talking to.
I want an IPV6 address. I'm going to run my internal home network on IPV6 and run a translator to make my IPV4 addresses translate to internal IPV6 ones. Where do I get a number space? I know the lower 8 bytes are suppose to be a MAC address, but what about the upper 8?
Using smaller features and lower voltages, you could probably get a 6502 to run at 2GHz. It would even be designed to do so. Would you want to? Wouldn't it end up being several times slower than even a P4 at the same clock?
To me, if a chip is slower and does less, even at a higher clock, it's a less advanced, more poorly designed chip.
Intel designed the P4 largely so they could boast higher clock rates than the Athlon. I don't believe the popular press is buying it, and while this lack of stupidity in the press surprises me, it is quite welcome.
The other thing to think about is IE 6 is going to be released soon. How long has it been since IE 5 was released? And they didn't write it from scratch. Do you think they were sitting on their arse the entire time?
This is interesting, because after thinking about it, I start wondering why Microsoft keeps a seperate version number for IE if it's such an integral part of the OS. I mean, why does IE 6 exist as a version number apart from 'XP'?
Seems to me that even Microsoft doesn't buy it's own BS about IE being an integral part of the OS.
If you have to play with the settings that much, it's a bad board IMHO. There should be settings it WILL work at, and those should be the default settings.
Board instability is a horrible problem. I have an unstable board now. Darned if I'm going to sit there and settings tweak until it doesn't freeze on me. I'm going to go out and get a motherboard that doesn't freeze and slam the vendor that gave me the unstable one.
Sure it is for, say, Quake, but it isn't too bad for typing. That's what I do over SSH. If I were playing something like 'hunt' I guess it'd be a problem, but I never have yet played twitch games over ssh.
When I first started using ssh, I thought of this. I mentioned the idea as a security vulnerability to a friend, and he dismissed it. I should've written it up, but I felt I should do tests first.
A good way to defeat this is to have ssh send packets every tenth of a second unless it hasn't gotten any data to send in more than 15 seconds, or if it has a lot of data to send. In the first case (no data for 15 seconds) it should stop sending, and in the second case it should send as soon as it has x (where x is probably something like 256) bytes of data to send.
This will add latency, up to a whole 100 milliseconds worth, but that would greatly reduce the problem.
Except, I don't want to willy-nilly accept cookies from this site. Mozilla has that option too, but I don't use it for this site. I wish I had a 'they're only allowed to modify already accepted cookies' option.
If copyright didn't exist, the GPL would be largely necessary. Yeah, the GPL turns the idea of copyright against itself. What of it? I'm tired of hearing this non-argument.
These are actions of civil disobedience, not choice in the free society sense. They are actions pursued because of a lack of freedom.
People who share software with their friends risk high fines and jailterms. People who reverse engineer software to get the source code face lawsuits, and, if UCITA passes, high fines and jailterms. These things may then also be viewed as acts of civil disobedience.
The existance of software cannot take away freedom. Users of software can take away their own freedom. Governments can take away freedom. The DMCA is a perfect example. Software in and of itself is morally neutral. It's a set of bits!
The existence of software does not take it away. The existence of copyrights, liscenses and a government to enforce them does.
I think the DMCA is useful because it shows something close to the ultimate end of blindly enforcing copyright laws past the time they make sense. They no longer make sense. The freedoms they traded away were once rather pointless, and are now vital.
No, they differ in a lot more than just that. The two situations are incomparable. Slavery results in the removal of freedoms from people. Developing proprietary software does not. Users still have the choice of whether or not to actually purchase and/or use the software. Victims of slavery have no choice in their situation.
They had the choice of death. And they had the choice of refusing to work and being whipped or starved. Those sound like choices to me, even if they seem rather unpleasant.
They could even have refused to have children so that no children would've been born slaves. Some even made that choice.
I think the choices that users have in an environment dominated by proprietary software are similarily unpalatable.
All the government has to do is stop using the force of the gun, political power, to help companies enforce their proprietary liscenses. The government can let them write all the pretty little pieces of legal paper they want, but if the government won't help them by using its muscle to enforce the liscenses, they're just pretty little pieces of paper.
He is not talking about denial of the rights of the software itself, but denial of the rights of those who would use it. He feels that if you try to control the distribution of software in certain ways, you are violating the fundamental rights of the people who use it. I happen to agree with him.
I find your attempt to twist the issue to be amusing and annoying at the same time.
As for determining the outcome of your own work, that is a fundamental right that you currently and always will have. You're doing the work. What is created is under your control, and always will be. It can't possibly be otherwise. Attempting to say that simply because you originally created something, that other people should be restricted in what they can do with it is wrong. Once you let something out into the world, your fundamental control is lost, and the only control you have is a legal fiction who's enforcement both the FSF and I consider unethical.
I happen to be one of the biggest Open Source boosters I know of aside from the famous ones.:-) And, I agree with the poster above. Games are more like music or other one-shot, no-improvement creative efforts than they are like software. Games, paintings, books (fiction), and music all fall into the 'art/entertainment' category, and the Open Source model isn't a big help.
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The only way to prevent attacks like this is to be a nice country, and to make sure that anybody who ever does something like this is shortly in very serious pain. We haven't done much of the first, and should possibly rethink how we deal with the world. The second is absolutely necessary for our continued freedom.
As Teddy Roosevelt said "Walk softly and carry a big stick."
eBay won because they were big, established, and profitable. They also had clear non-infringing uses of their service established.
Napster was percieved as an upstart pirate of a company, and that's why they lost.
I don't think it has a great deal to do with the letter of the law here, but how the companies were percieved by the respective judges.
How much campaign contribution money would it take to get you to change your mind?
So, this means that you think the mass of a proton is going to change?
Using atomic fountains it's actually feasible to get well known number of protons together in a group that's possible to accurately measure the mass of. I think that basing it on something like this is an excellent way to define it. Simple, easy to intuitively grasp, and doesn't involve any hairy adjustments for gravity.
You could define a kilogram as the amount of water in a cubic decimeter. Or, you could define it as the mass of 6.02 * 10^23 protons, or any number of other ways. I don't understand how this measurement they intend to make with the device they have will be any more accurate or easier to deal with.
You could even define it as the energy in some huge number of photons of a particular wavelength. :-)
I'm betting that he did use PGP and they just used surveilance to crack his private key password, or (less likely) he chose a bad private key password.
I'm betting it's a surveilance, keystroke logging thing again.
So, will it ignore copyright tags in files you get from other places. Sure it won't include them in stuff you create, but how about in other files? Even if it does, what's to say this feature won't go away, and the original software stop working at some point in the future?
I'll have to look into that. It seems like I'd have to get a tunnelled address anyway if I wanted to both be on the 6bone and use 6to4. If I wanted the best IPV6 connectivity I could get, that sounds like the way to go.
Interestingly enough, I can use that same SLA and interface addresses in both the 6bone, and the 6to4 address space. That's kinda neat. :-)
Since I'm going to be doing lots of NAT anyway to make this all work, maybe I'll just use site addressing inside my network, and translate the 48 bit prefix address to make it look like I'm on whatever network I happen to be talking to.
That'll get confusing in DNS though. :-(
Thanks! I discovered my ISP is on the 6bone though. :-) They'll give me a /64, which I really don't need, but hey! :-)
I want an IPV6 address. I'm going to run my internal home network on IPV6 and run a translator to make my IPV4 addresses translate to internal IPV6 ones. Where do I get a number space? I know the lower 8 bytes are suppose to be a MAC address, but what about the upper 8?
Using smaller features and lower voltages, you could probably get a 6502 to run at 2GHz. It would even be designed to do so. Would you want to? Wouldn't it end up being several times slower than even a P4 at the same clock?
To me, if a chip is slower and does less, even at a higher clock, it's a less advanced, more poorly designed chip.
Intel designed the P4 largely so they could boast higher clock rates than the Athlon. I don't believe the popular press is buying it, and while this lack of stupidity in the press surprises me, it is quite welcome.
This is interesting, because after thinking about it, I start wondering why Microsoft keeps a seperate version number for IE if it's such an integral part of the OS. I mean, why does IE 6 exist as a version number apart from 'XP'?
Seems to me that even Microsoft doesn't buy it's own BS about IE being an integral part of the OS.
If you have to play with the settings that much, it's a bad board IMHO. There should be settings it WILL work at, and those should be the default settings.
Board instability is a horrible problem. I have an unstable board now. Darned if I'm going to sit there and settings tweak until it doesn't freeze on me. I'm going to go out and get a motherboard that doesn't freeze and slam the vendor that gave me the unstable one.
BTW, the unstable one is an ABit KT7A, non-RAID.
Sure it is for, say, Quake, but it isn't too bad for typing. That's what I do over SSH. If I were playing something like 'hunt' I guess it'd be a problem, but I never have yet played twitch games over ssh.
It's easy to say that, I know, but it's true. :-)
When I first started using ssh, I thought of this. I mentioned the idea as a security vulnerability to a friend, and he dismissed it. I should've written it up, but I felt I should do tests first.
A good way to defeat this is to have ssh send packets every tenth of a second unless it hasn't gotten any data to send in more than 15 seconds, or if it has a lot of data to send. In the first case (no data for 15 seconds) it should stop sending, and in the second case it should send as soon as it has x (where x is probably something like 256) bytes of data to send.
This will add latency, up to a whole 100 milliseconds worth, but that would greatly reduce the problem.
I am, and I don't think you got fp. The new comment numbers make determining this much harder. *grin* I like that.
Except, I don't want to willy-nilly accept cookies from this site. Mozilla has that option too, but I don't use it for this site. I wish I had a 'they're only allowed to modify already accepted cookies' option.
If copyright didn't exist, the GPL would be largely necessary. Yeah, the GPL turns the idea of copyright against itself. What of it? I'm tired of hearing this non-argument.
People who share software with their friends risk high fines and jailterms. People who reverse engineer software to get the source code face lawsuits, and, if UCITA passes, high fines and jailterms. These things may then also be viewed as acts of civil disobedience.
The existence of software does not take it away. The existence of copyrights, liscenses and a government to enforce them does.
I think the DMCA is useful because it shows something close to the ultimate end of blindly enforcing copyright laws past the time they make sense. They no longer make sense. The freedoms they traded away were once rather pointless, and are now vital.
They had the choice of death. And they had the choice of refusing to work and being whipped or starved. Those sound like choices to me, even if they seem rather unpleasant.
They could even have refused to have children so that no children would've been born slaves. Some even made that choice.
I think the choices that users have in an environment dominated by proprietary software are similarily unpalatable.
All the government has to do is stop using the force of the gun, political power, to help companies enforce their proprietary liscenses. The government can let them write all the pretty little pieces of legal paper they want, but if the government won't help them by using its muscle to enforce the liscenses, they're just pretty little pieces of paper.
He is not talking about denial of the rights of the software itself, but denial of the rights of those who would use it. He feels that if you try to control the distribution of software in certain ways, you are violating the fundamental rights of the people who use it. I happen to agree with him.
I find your attempt to twist the issue to be amusing and annoying at the same time.
As for determining the outcome of your own work, that is a fundamental right that you currently and always will have. You're doing the work. What is created is under your control, and always will be. It can't possibly be otherwise. Attempting to say that simply because you originally created something, that other people should be restricted in what they can do with it is wrong. Once you let something out into the world, your fundamental control is lost, and the only control you have is a legal fiction who's enforcement both the FSF and I consider unethical.
I happen to be one of the biggest Open Source boosters I know of aside from the famous ones. :-) And, I agree with the poster above. Games are more like music or other one-shot, no-improvement creative efforts than they are like software. Games, paintings, books (fiction), and music all fall into the 'art/entertainment' category, and the Open Source model isn't a big help.