This looks like this will just be a low profile PC tailored to gaming and Linux. In other words, it will pretty much be another variation on the ION nettops that some of us have already been using for quite some time now.
It will be nice to get some fresh blood in this area. If the kit is reasonably priced, some of us might just buy it for our own purposes.
Any organization is a mob. That is the rampaging kind. It has no awareness. The fact that it is composed of entities that are self aware does not magically grant the aggregate any self awareness.
Wishful thinking and simpleminded arguments really don't change this.
If anything, "people" become immediately less aware and in control as soon as they become part of a larger collective.
Trying to conflate an organization with a person is just retarded.
...except there is a considerable issue of jurisdiction you are ignoring.
The Feds don't control the local governments that determine whether or not you have suitable permits or a professional license. The State and City control that. They have their own fiefdoms and likely won't appreciate anyone else trying to encroach upon their power.
Battling beaurocracy.
The AMA may have a different idea as may your own State Attorney General.
There were not-quite-real-time games before Myst. Myst just exploited the available hardware of the time. Of course a newer game is going to look better than an older game.
The same goes for everything that followed Myst.
The not-quite-real-time aspect just got buried by games that were real-time.
There's no Amish community as large as the smallest modern farm community you can conceive of. Your ideals really haven't been put to the test if you haven't seen them scale to the size towns we had in ancient Babylon.
When I think of this "Utopia", I usually contemplate the fact that Dr. Bashir's parents had to flee off world in order to get his son's learning disability treated. There is clearly still an underclass and people interested in fleeing for various reasons.
Those Maquis are out on the Cardassian frontier for a reason.
Chances are, they're very much like the browncoats from Serenity.
> Perhaps it is the fact that the people Tata uses can do the same skills needed as the in-house IT people for a fraction of the price and actually be better in quality?
There are far too many of us that know that this simply isn't the case. Even American outsourcing outfits are total frauds when it comes to the skill level of they people they hire.
Chances are that your own people that you already have now will be the best people you could possibly ever have handle your stuff.
IT is part of making the better mousetrap. That may not necessarily be obvious to the customer but it factors in how well a company can do it's business. Unless something is a total commodity (like payroll processing), that IT infastructure is part of the company's competitive advantage.
Most IT just isn't mature enough to be that much of a commodity.
What you're talking about is a simpleminded approach to business that treats anything other than sales as a cost center to be subject to Eugene Krabs style corner cutting.
> Yes they do, as do many other contractors from other companies, especially since a lot of them are veterans.
This is a leadership issue, not a labor issue.
I would expect the same out of Haliburton that I would expect out of any variety of outsourcing operation. They seek to "manage expectations" rather than to excel.
They are their own organization. They have their own agenda. Their agenda doesn't align with yours.
There are professional associations in tech. They just tend to be very academic. So they seem less relevant to the rank and file IT people working in the trenches.
No. It's the inverse of that. There are no legacy apps trapping people on the new platform. No one has any 20 year old Microsoft apps tying them to Microsoft's tablet.
It's an open field and Microsoft has to compete on it's own merits including all of the ill will they have generated over the last 30 years.
A modern console isn't that far removed from a PC shoebox with liquid cooling.
If anything, the shoebox would likely have the advantage of not cooking itself. The consumer mentality can be a double edged sword when it comes to electronics.
The main thing that keeps bog standard PC parts from being living room friendly is the fact that most of the defined form factors are too deep.
> This is amazing technology. All we need now is some graphics drivers and it could be a working console.
You mean the drivers they are already focusing on for the desktop version of Steam on Linux? These are the same drivers that allow you to play BluRays on a machine that can barely load Windows.
Distributed processing requires an application that won't crap itself when you try to scale it on a larger piece of single hardware. A poorly written app doesn't need a cluster in order to fall apart.
> The uber duber turbine-sounded high end desktop doesn't get much of a use if you don't have some kind of time-management disorder or addiction
Not everyone is a couch potato.
There will always be people that need to get something done or are interested in something a little better. The fashionista mentality that tries to insult anyone with more than half a brain cell will help ensure that average consumer computing devices don't fit that description.
However "enthusiast" machines are going nowhere. The definition of "going of the reservation" is being widened by the fashionistas ensuring that more flexible machines will always be around for real work and interesting things.
The PC going away? Puleeeze. The mainframe didn't even go away.
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I can already do that now. Just run Steam on the same kind of hardware that this thing is likely to be built with.
This looks like this will just be a low profile PC tailored to gaming and Linux. In other words, it will pretty much be another variation on the ION nettops that some of us have already been using for quite some time now.
It will be nice to get some fresh blood in this area. If the kit is reasonably priced, some of us might just buy it for our own purposes.
Any organization is a mob. That is the rampaging kind. It has no awareness. The fact that it is composed of entities that are self aware does not magically grant the aggregate any self awareness.
Wishful thinking and simpleminded arguments really don't change this.
If anything, "people" become immediately less aware and in control as soon as they become part of a larger collective.
Trying to conflate an organization with a person is just retarded.
...except there is a considerable issue of jurisdiction you are ignoring.
The Feds don't control the local governments that determine whether or not you have suitable permits or a professional license. The State and City control that. They have their own fiefdoms and likely won't appreciate anyone else trying to encroach upon their power.
Battling beaurocracy.
The AMA may have a different idea as may your own State Attorney General.
The demonization of tax collectors goes way back.
There's the Sheriff of Nottingham.
Then there's Judas Iscariot.
People really don't like the tax man.
> Why did we sneer at Myst?
We don't sneer at Myst. We sneer at hipsters trying to put it on some kind of pedestal. It's the mindless hype machine we sneer at.
Serial drama? Sounds a lot like Babylon 5.
There's probably a lot of stuff in between too...
Plus there's the King (or rather Queen) of all serial drama. Beats them all to the punch by decades. Probably shouldn't call it out by name.
The hipsters will spontaneously combust.
There were not-quite-real-time games before Myst. Myst just exploited the available hardware of the time. Of course a newer game is going to look better than an older game.
The same goes for everything that followed Myst.
The not-quite-real-time aspect just got buried by games that were real-time.
There's no Amish community as large as the smallest modern farm community you can conceive of. Your ideals really haven't been put to the test if you haven't seen them scale to the size towns we had in ancient Babylon.
When I think of this "Utopia", I usually contemplate the fact that Dr. Bashir's parents had to flee off world in order to get his son's learning disability treated. There is clearly still an underclass and people interested in fleeing for various reasons.
Those Maquis are out on the Cardassian frontier for a reason.
Chances are, they're very much like the browncoats from Serenity.
We all know what Kirk thought of "Utopia".
> Perhaps it is the fact that the people Tata uses can do the same skills needed as the in-house IT people for a fraction of the price and actually be better in quality?
There are far too many of us that know that this simply isn't the case. Even American outsourcing outfits are total frauds when it comes to the skill level of they people they hire.
Chances are that your own people that you already have now will be the best people you could possibly ever have handle your stuff.
IT is part of making the better mousetrap. That may not necessarily be obvious to the customer but it factors in how well a company can do it's business. Unless something is a total commodity (like payroll processing), that IT infastructure is part of the company's competitive advantage.
Most IT just isn't mature enough to be that much of a commodity.
What you're talking about is a simpleminded approach to business that treats anything other than sales as a cost center to be subject to Eugene Krabs style corner cutting.
> Yes they do, as do many other contractors from other companies, especially since a lot of them are veterans.
This is a leadership issue, not a labor issue.
I would expect the same out of Haliburton that I would expect out of any variety of outsourcing operation. They seek to "manage expectations" rather than to excel.
They are their own organization. They have their own agenda. Their agenda doesn't align with yours.
There are professional associations in tech. They just tend to be very academic. So they seem less relevant to the rank and file IT people working in the trenches.
Hostess didn't come back, they liquidated.
All of the rivals of Hostess that didn't go bankrupt are the ones ressurecting the brands that were put in limbo by their failure.
IT talent in New England still have to pay New England rent prices and still have some money left over for food.
> If a system can barely load Windows, its probably not suitable for games anyway.
Yes. Because any Linux PC is going to be restricted to an outdated CPU.
The original FUD talking point was that Linux doesn't have suitable device drivers. What Linux can do with ION kit quite handily destroys that idea.
So does Valve's own comments on the matter.
That only works for the single viewing use case.
Plus it requires an ugly tradeoff both in terms of quality and usability.
For anything you touch more than once, local storage easily trumps "streaming".
Some people even have bandwidth caps to consider.
No. It's the inverse of that. There are no legacy apps trapping people on the new platform. No one has any 20 year old Microsoft apps tying them to Microsoft's tablet.
It's an open field and Microsoft has to compete on it's own merits including all of the ill will they have generated over the last 30 years.
Enough to choke SQLite with if you have a big enough media horde to throw at Plex or XBMC.
Putting that "meta" prefix on the front doesn't make it any less interesting.
A modern console isn't that far removed from a PC shoebox with liquid cooling.
If anything, the shoebox would likely have the advantage of not cooking itself. The consumer mentality can be a double edged sword when it comes to electronics.
The main thing that keeps bog standard PC parts from being living room friendly is the fact that most of the defined form factors are too deep.
> This is amazing technology. All we need now is some graphics drivers and it could be a working console.
You mean the drivers they are already focusing on for the desktop version of Steam on Linux? These are the same drivers that allow you to play BluRays on a machine that can barely load Windows.
Only 2 years ago? And you're seriously going to brag about it?
You're bringing a knife to a gunfight and you think it's a mini-gun.
Distributed processing requires an application that won't crap itself when you try to scale it on a larger piece of single hardware. A poorly written app doesn't need a cluster in order to fall apart.
> The uber duber turbine-sounded high end desktop doesn't get much of a use if you don't have some kind of time-management disorder or addiction
Not everyone is a couch potato.
There will always be people that need to get something done or are interested in something a little better. The fashionista mentality that tries to insult anyone with more than half a brain cell will help ensure that average consumer computing devices don't fit that description.
However "enthusiast" machines are going nowhere. The definition of "going of the reservation" is being widened by the fashionistas ensuring that more flexible machines will always be around for real work and interesting things.
The PC going away? Puleeeze. The mainframe didn't even go away.
> Grandma also doesnt't need the hassle of worrying about anti-virus updates,
All grandma needs to avoid that is to just buy an non-Windows PC.
Just ask Apple.