> but they tend to use far less compatible interfaces that are far more expensive than Thunderbolt.
That's an interesting way of describing industry standard interfaces that are not effectively limited to a single hardware vendor. The kinds of expensive things that Mac Pros already employ are the same kinds of things that everyone else uses.
Ironically when you measure it against serious workstation and server gear, the main advantage Thunderbolt may have is being the "cheap" option.
> He publicized information that was tagged as Top Secret
That's not "betraying" democracy, that's DEFENDING it.
He broke some law. Conflating that with "betraying democracy" is just retarded. You could say that he betrayed the current regime. Whether or not he betrayed the nation is a matter of dispute.
GUI's tend to be made with the implicit assumption that all people are morons and will always remains so. More interesting use cases are generally ignored because everyone is chasing that grandma who is using a computer for the very first time.
It doesn't matter that GUIs can provide a superset of the command line because pretty much no one is interested in delivering that. Theory versus practice.
It's a policy problem more than a technology problem.
What I am talking about is not an ssh server. It's a type of ssh client. It's a bit of sleight of hand that derives from the whole "it's all just files" approach.
It's the slick sort of integration that Windows is supposed to be good at or MacOS is supposed to be known for.
Retrofit your target Windows server and you still need to address the client side of the equation.
We have a long tradition of ignoring rules as it suits us. This began with Saul of Tarsus picking and choosing which bits of Jewish Legal Tradition would be followed by future Xians.
Someone in this very thread suggested that we should ignore such rules. Inevitably you will have a like mined person declare that the crime was so horrible that a child must be declared as an adult. Then the whole mob mentality will kick in. If the judge doesn't have enough of a backbone or a sufficient respect for the law, then the mob will get what it wants.
If you need software then your taxes are already too complex for a mere program. You need a real accountant, preferably one that is an IRS veteran. Anything less is just pissing money down the drain (or inviting an audit).
That still sounds inferior to the available Linux options. If I don't like the command line with SCP, then I can just use the Linux file manager to make that connection and access the remote files just like local ones.
This even works for Android devices and jailbroken Apple devices.
Only when I want to do something quicker than I could with the usual shiny happy interfaces or when no shiny happy interface exists at all on any platform.
When you want something done 22 times the same way, the command line rocks.
That's funny because just the other day I had trouble with a spreadsheet in a genuine copy of Excel that didn't display right until I took that file and converted into a CSV.
If it's so important that you would worry about some other program buggering things, then you can't trust it to the real thing either. Problems between Microsoft products are so common that an actual LibreOffice issue won't be recognized as such.
> The way things have unfolded, X11 will become a library on top of Wayland. And that's perfectly fine.
Sounds like X running on Windows.
If you don't understand what's wrong with that, or you try to claim there is nothing wrong with that, then you really have no clue why people are resisting Wayland.
Create some relatively small but interesting (to you) application. Being able to build a small application with a properly normalized database will put you head and shoulders above most people that call themselves DBA (especially the sql server crowd).
Use it. Manage it. Trust it with important data. Get burned when you don't back it up properly.
You can make a lot of useful mistakes on your own that you can learn from.
You bring up a good point. It's good to know the jargon. You don't have to necessarily have direct experience with all of that stuff or even expertise. But it is useful to know what nonsense is being thrown at you.
> I've never met a CEO who wanted to base his/her business on unsupported software
Then you've not been around much. Plenty of companies outside of a very small set of "glamourous" ones will happily trade a little risk for a really big discount.
Don't try to conflate the Fortune 100 with everyone because it's simply not the case.
Hell. You don't even have to focus on what the Nazis did to the Jews. You could completely ignore the Jews and just focus on what the Nazis did to EVERYONE ELSE.
The Nazis were genocidal dirt bags even if you ignore the Holocaust completely.
That's the astounding part of idiots that try to conflate the Nazis and Israel. They don't just have no clue, they have a negative clue.
> I assume the tweets will come strictly from an Israeli perspective.
Are any of the other parties at Liberty to do so? Since this was a humiliating loss for everyone else, I could see why a lot of the other countries might not be too keen to remember it?
If you wanted to, could you tweet on the other side without getting shot?
Will you make excuses for those countries if the answer is no?
Although the Syrians are probably too busy worried about getting gassed right about now.
No. But it does equate to a double standard. A different standard is applied to Israel than to everyone else. What's worse is that the other Arab countries are treating their own people like shit.
That's like you pissing on your family. That's actually WORSE than some stranger doing it.
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> but they tend to use far less compatible interfaces that are far more expensive than Thunderbolt.
That's an interesting way of describing industry standard interfaces that are not effectively limited to a single hardware vendor. The kinds of expensive things that Mac Pros already employ are the same kinds of things that everyone else uses.
Ironically when you measure it against serious workstation and server gear, the main advantage Thunderbolt may have is being the "cheap" option.
>> incompatible rare expensive *external* interface is simply not a solution
>
> Said the idiot.
Who are you trying to kid? You're just some lame conspicous consumer wannabe.
> There is no express right to privacy in the US Constitution.
That would be a lot more convincing if the US were a Roman Law or Napoleonic Law nation but it's not.
It is the powers of government that are limited under US Law.
>> Privacy has *long* been established as a natural right and is codified in the highest legal document in the nation.
>
> Citation please.
You're really going to go there?
Try Roe v Wade for a start.
> That depends on your definition of right.
> Acting without a common definition is anarchy.
We have such a framework:
Common Sense
The Declaration of Independence
The Federalist Papers
The US Constitution.
Civil Disobedience
> He publicized information that was tagged as Top Secret
That's not "betraying" democracy, that's DEFENDING it.
He broke some law. Conflating that with "betraying democracy" is just retarded. You could say that he betrayed the current regime. Whether or not he betrayed the nation is a matter of dispute.
GUI's tend to be made with the implicit assumption that all people are morons and will always remains so. More interesting use cases are generally ignored because everyone is chasing that grandma who is using a computer for the very first time.
It doesn't matter that GUIs can provide a superset of the command line because pretty much no one is interested in delivering that. Theory versus practice.
It's a policy problem more than a technology problem.
What I am talking about is not an ssh server. It's a type of ssh client. It's a bit of sleight of hand that derives from the whole "it's all just files" approach.
It's the slick sort of integration that Windows is supposed to be good at or MacOS is supposed to be known for.
Retrofit your target Windows server and you still need to address the client side of the equation.
We have a long tradition of ignoring rules as it suits us. This began with Saul of Tarsus picking and choosing which bits of Jewish Legal Tradition would be followed by future Xians.
Someone in this very thread suggested that we should ignore such rules. Inevitably you will have a like mined person declare that the crime was so horrible that a child must be declared as an adult. Then the whole mob mentality will kick in. If the judge doesn't have enough of a backbone or a sufficient respect for the law, then the mob will get what it wants.
Mob mentality -> bad precident.
No. He's saying that you should not let a place turn to shit like a primitive hunter-gatherer and then move only to let that place turn to shit to.
Eventually, you will run out of places to neglect.
> Windows does not suck like it once did.
Windows 8 fixed that.
If you need software then your taxes are already too complex for a mere program. You need a real accountant, preferably one that is an IRS veteran. Anything less is just pissing money down the drain (or inviting an audit).
That still sounds inferior to the available Linux options. If I don't like the command line with SCP, then I can just use the Linux file manager to make that connection and access the remote files just like local ones.
This even works for Android devices and jailbroken Apple devices.
> linux command line much?
Only when I want to do something quicker than I could with the usual shiny happy interfaces or when no shiny happy interface exists at all on any platform.
When you want something done 22 times the same way, the command line rocks.
If they really are that stupid than 99.9% of the features in all of the "killer apps" you drool over are entirely irrelevant.
Thus the rise of tablets...
That's funny because just the other day I had trouble with a spreadsheet in a genuine copy of Excel that didn't display right until I took that file and converted into a CSV.
If it's so important that you would worry about some other program buggering things, then you can't trust it to the real thing either. Problems between Microsoft products are so common that an actual LibreOffice issue won't be recognized as such.
> There are far more Windows boxes too.
Ironically, you Wayland fanboys are going to make sure that the remote access features that have been adopted by Windows are ripped out of Linux.
> The way things have unfolded, X11 will become a library on top of Wayland. And that's perfectly fine.
Sounds like X running on Windows.
If you don't understand what's wrong with that, or you try to claim there is nothing wrong with that, then you really have no clue why people are resisting Wayland.
> Install some critical app
Create some relatively small but interesting (to you) application. Being able to build a small application with a properly normalized database will put you head and shoulders above most people that call themselves DBA (especially the sql server crowd).
Use it. Manage it. Trust it with important data. Get burned when you don't back it up properly.
You can make a lot of useful mistakes on your own that you can learn from.
You bring up a good point. It's good to know the jargon. You don't have to necessarily have direct experience with all of that stuff or even expertise. But it is useful to know what nonsense is being thrown at you.
> I've never met a CEO who wanted to base his/her business on unsupported software
Then you've not been around much. Plenty of companies outside of a very small set of "glamourous" ones will happily trade a little risk for a really big discount.
Don't try to conflate the Fortune 100 with everyone because it's simply not the case.
Everything is more expensive in those places.
That's one of the problems in living in such places. If you are here to whine about it then you're an idiot. Move or suck it up.
You don't have to flee to Bhopal either. You can just go to Idaho.
Hell. You don't even have to focus on what the Nazis did to the Jews. You could completely ignore the Jews and just focus on what the Nazis did to EVERYONE ELSE.
The Nazis were genocidal dirt bags even if you ignore the Holocaust completely.
That's the astounding part of idiots that try to conflate the Nazis and Israel. They don't just have no clue, they have a negative clue.
> I assume the tweets will come strictly from an Israeli perspective.
Are any of the other parties at Liberty to do so? Since this was a humiliating loss for everyone else, I could see why a lot of the other countries might not be too keen to remember it?
If you wanted to, could you tweet on the other side without getting shot?
Will you make excuses for those countries if the answer is no?
Although the Syrians are probably too busy worried about getting gassed right about now.
No. But it does equate to a double standard. A different standard is applied to Israel than to everyone else. What's worse is that the other Arab countries are treating their own people like shit.
That's like you pissing on your family. That's actually WORSE than some stranger doing it.