My point is that you (and those that believe that the government will ever do anything correctly and/or with our best interests in mind) have now given said nutjobs authority to do just that. Many in our government have been chomping at the bit for years wanting to find a way to establish more control over the internet. This is the beginning of that end game. Just wait and see.
I also hate to be the one to inform you, but many in that "moral majority" have also been liberals. Remember Tipper Gore?
As far as who's side I'm on...neither. I think Bob Dylan has a song about something similar.....
What will happen when the FCC decides to use the new powers to "clean up" (i.e. censor) the Internet the same way it's done to TV and Radio? Am I the only person who believes the government will fuck this up the same way they've fucked up everything else they meddle with? People are so very shortsighted.
Is installation of cameras just plug and play? I've heard that you have to mess around with baluns. Is that right? How far should the low-voltage camera lines be from medium voltage (120 and 220 volt) lines to not cause interference?
There are a lot of ways to answer this. Much is dependant on the types of cameras you are installing. Standard video cameras (which will be the cheapest) simply require a CCTV grade coaxial cable (RG59 or RG6) and an 18 Ga. 2 conductor. There is specially made cable that has both these combined together, called Siamese cable. You will be able to get approx 1000' out of RG59 and 1200-1400' out of RG6. At those extreme lengths, being anywhere closer than 2' to HV lines (especially 220V) may cause interference. Shorter lengths will not matter so much, and intermittent contact with power cords and the like should have little to no effect.
Baluns are used to convert from coaxial cable to UTP cable such as CAT5 or 6, and bring their own problems to the table. Using them allows for easier switching to an IP camera solution in the future, since there will already be Ethernet rated cable in place. NVT has many devices of this type, as well as many others. http://www.nvt.com/
IP cameras are subject to the same limitations as any ethernet device (320ft) and PoE devices change that some as well. There are ways to lengthen an ethernet run through the use of mid-range bridges. IP cameras will be the easiest to install (especially if you will be using PoE), and will offer the most future proof solution, as they will be the standard for many more years to come. They are are anywhere from 2-4x the cost of standard video cameras, and I don't mean the cheap chinese ones. Spending money on good cameras up front is a worthwhile investment. Axis cameras, while somewhat pricey, are universally accepted by most if not all NVR's, and will set up very quickly and easily. http://www.axis.com/
Also, what cameras to get? IR? Dome cameras or bullet? What mm should they be? How do you know?
This will all depend on the conditions of the site. Do you expect vandalism? Get a rugged dome. Is it an area that has low lighting at night? Get an IR-equipped camera but don't expect too much from it at any real distance. The camera type is mostly aesthetic unless vandal resistance is a big issue. Then height is your friend. Here is a site I just found that can calculate what lenses you will need based on viewing distance and field of view. http://www.cctvlenscalculator.com/
What about viewing over the Internet? Also, how easy is it to hack them? Any additional security recommended?
I do not recommend putting these devices directly on the internet, as they are proprietary (mostly Windows based) systems and as such may have holes you won't know about. Put it behind a good firewall and gateway, and then VPN into the network to connect to it. They can be configured for direct internet access in most cases though, to be accessed by their client software by internet IP. Good luck to you if you try it.
Many commercial DVR/NVR's will have this functionality built in. Motion recording, motion event triggering, motion search, and motion search by area are rather common features in commercial CCTV software. I have never seen anything approaching this in open source or free software.
There are several brands I would recommend. Any of these can sell standalone servers or just the server software.
Exacq (www.exacq.com)
milestone (milestonesys.com)
Avigilon (avigilon.com)
Of those three, Avigilon has the better video handling, IMHO. Especially when working with 3, 5, or 16MP cameras.
For decent cameras on the cheap, go to supercircuits.com and browse their collection of recorders and cameras. They have a pretty large array of IR-boosted cameras as well.
Outside of that though, one of the best things you can do to increase both the effectiveness of your cameras and the security of your porperty is to install lighting over as much of your property as possible. Night/Motion-sensing lights can be had very cheaply and will do more to deter nighttime theft and/or break-ins than anything else you can do.
You may think that the video quality of a non-megapixel camera is bad, but the reality is that the majority of commercial systems in use today simply don't use them. The general idea commercially is to put as many cameras out there as economically possible, give them adequate lighting (ALL cameras need good lighting, unless you start talking about very pricey ones), and choose a recording system that provides an adequate storage duration (usually 30 days) with a decent framerate and image quality.
A decent quality 4-8 camera networkable and motion-sensing video system can be had easily these days for well under $2000. Now, if someone else is doing the installation, that price can go way up. It's far cheaper to do it yourself.
After just taking a look at Real's market cap (a whopping $831 Million! - my gawd is it really worth that much?!), and Q4 revenue of $125 Million (!), the 10k they would spend on them is a tiny little drop in the bucket compared to what they should already be spending on heavy pentesting anyway. 10k wouldn't even cover the cost of Mt. Dew and Cheetos for a year of a highly qualified pentesters time.....
How much would it damage Real if they (Gleg) just released the exploit into the wild? Far more than 10k's worth, assuredly.
Ah, this brings back memories. In 1978 a scrawny, poor, 8 year old kid (me) was given a TRS80 Model I by the wonderful proprietor of my local Radio Shack. I was in the store every day gawking over the thing and writing the simplest BASIC programs I could learn. When the Model II Came out, he game me the display model of the Model 1 he had (complete with tape recorder interface!). At that point he became a god to me, and I still went there every day to help out in whatever way I could. I'd sweep the floors, clean windows, etc. anything I could do to show my gratitude. I was in little geek heaven.
By the time I was 11 I had given him back the model I in favor of the display model Model III. He was selling them pretty well at that point, and I continued to do lots of work for him. I was already using editor/assembler by then (4 bit - woohoo!) to write routines. I vividly remember the 8" floppy disk with the UNGODLY 1MB of storage it had. I had only 2 disks, and I was never able to fill either of them.
By the time I was 14, I had moved away. I mowed what seemed like 3000 damn yards to earn the money for my next aquisition, a Tandy 1000. It had 128k of RAM (128K OMG so much!!) and 2 of the new fangled 360k 5.25 floppies. Not to mention the graphics. RGB at 320x240 16color, and a whopping 640 x 200(!) at 4 color. When I got that, I thought I was a geek god.:D I still have the 1000 packed up somewhere, and I bet it still works....though the RGB monitor was toast long ago.
I never cared much for the C64, It seemed to me to be a slightly improved version of the Model 1. I did envy all the premade software for it though. I got most of the games I played from magazines...typing in all the code for hours on end just to get to play them. My parents wouldn't let me connect a modem to it. After War Games came out they thought I'd end the world or something with it.:D
Google "Dr. George Carlo", you may learn something.
Much like Dr. Carlo's situation, there are far more "studies" proclaiming how *safe* it all is than his one meager voice. But then, look who's paying for the bulk of them. I really don't believe that short term exposure will do much damage. Nor do I think that long distance exposure to low powered sources has as much effect. But I do believe that the true long term effect of microwave exposure hasn't even begun to be discovered.
More and more people are running around with microwave-emitting blobs on the side of their head every day, for over 12+ hours a day, and to me that is the height of stupidity. But by all means, keep believing what you're told. Far be it from me to stop you or anyone from slowly killing themselves.
Like I said, why would they lie?
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." - Albert Einstein
I have two friends that worked on radar vessels in the Navy, and both lost their nads to Cancer. The subsequent payments they recieve do nothing to reverse the loss of thier nads, but they do very well nonetheless.
I can't count the number of cops that contracted cancer in the days of the (2.4GHz) radar gun, as well. They used to lay it on their laps, the fools....
Me, I fully expect to see many cases of cancer on the side of the head for all the fools that wear a goddamned earpiece on their friggin heads 24/7. It may take years, but I expect to see it nonetheless. The human body reacts badly to microwave energy. It has been proven time and time again. Sure the average Wi-fi or Bluetooth device is small and weak, but long term exposure (we haven't seen that...yet) I guarantee will bring up cancer rates. And when you have to have a portion of your skull removed (like the cops who lost large chunks of their legs and pelvis to radar guns) you probably won't be able to hear me say "I told you so".
Fearmongering? Maybe. Reality? Very likely. Weather I care if your ignorance give you a better chance of getting cancer? Not even a little bit. The difference between 2.4Ghz and 700-900MHz is very significant, and you obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about.
But what do I know? I've only had my Doctorate in Electronic Engineering for 10 years now....
Let me think....what reason would a multi-billion dollar industry have to deny such accusations like that? Damn if I can figure it out....
Well, who knows what servers they used. Like the other guy's reply, I had no interruption of service. One day it was intermedia@home, the next it was comcast. Hell, it was like 7 years ago. Trying to report it now would just seem kinda useless.
I don't really have any problem with Comcast. I've had cable broadband going on 10 years now. There's nothing else out here in the sticks where I live. DSL is nowhere near available. Before this, I had to pay crazy high prices ($65/mo for the line and $45/mo for the ISP) for an ISDN line just to get something better than 34k or so dialup. I regularly see 10-12Mbps now. There's so few poeple on my node that I rarely if ever see a slowdown. Most of my neighbors are cows.:D
In my area, @home was simply absorbed by Comcast. Comcast isn't going anywhere anytime soon here. They're the only game in town in 3/4 of the state (TN).
I have had cable internet since it was Intermedia back in 1999. FIOS isn't even available in my state (AFAIK, I tried many addresses, even in urban areas, and none came up as available), let alone in my rural area. I regularly get 12Mbps down and 768k up today. The slowest I've ever seen my connection is 4Mbps, and that was years ago. I live so far out that DSL (as slow and wonky as it is) isn't even available to me.
Yes, their customer service is a bit crappy, but after going through the hell that is Verizon Wireless for a year (CANCELLED!), Comcast seems like a pretty field, where naked women tend to my every need.
Besides, the downstream bandwith I get on my cable modem is equivalent to the FIOS package that would cost me twice what I pay now. I don't really use the up much, so I'm not bothered in the least by it. Sub 30ms latency to 3/4 of the U.S. is pretty nice, too.
Was this article written by someone who works for Verizon? They obvioulsly haven't seen anything related to DOCSIS 3. Can't wait for that nice fat pipe to be opened up, for sure....
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My point is that you (and those that believe that the government will ever do anything correctly and/or with our best interests in mind) have now given said nutjobs authority to do just that. Many in our government have been chomping at the bit for years wanting to find a way to establish more control over the internet. This is the beginning of that end game. Just wait and see.
I also hate to be the one to inform you, but many in that "moral majority" have also been liberals. Remember Tipper Gore?
As far as who's side I'm on...neither. I think Bob Dylan has a song about something similar.....
Mark my words....this will not end well.
What will happen when the FCC decides to use the new powers to "clean up" (i.e. censor) the Internet the same way it's done to TV and Radio? Am I the only person who believes the government will fuck this up the same way they've fucked up everything else they meddle with? People are so very shortsighted.
There are several tools which allow you to put an RTSP stream on a webpage using VLC and other tools. The Hikvision camera you have will support that.
Is installation of cameras just plug and play? I've heard that you have to mess around with baluns. Is that right? How far should the low-voltage camera lines be from medium voltage (120 and 220 volt) lines to not cause interference?
There are a lot of ways to answer this. Much is dependant on the types of cameras you are installing. Standard video cameras (which will be the cheapest) simply require a CCTV grade coaxial cable (RG59 or RG6) and an 18 Ga. 2 conductor. There is specially made cable that has both these combined together, called Siamese cable. You will be able to get approx 1000' out of RG59 and 1200-1400' out of RG6. At those extreme lengths, being anywhere closer than 2' to HV lines (especially 220V) may cause interference. Shorter lengths will not matter so much, and intermittent contact with power cords and the like should have little to no effect.
Baluns are used to convert from coaxial cable to UTP cable such as CAT5 or 6, and bring their own problems to the table. Using them allows for easier switching to an IP camera solution in the future, since there will already be Ethernet rated cable in place. NVT has many devices of this type, as well as many others. http://www.nvt.com/
IP cameras are subject to the same limitations as any ethernet device (320ft) and PoE devices change that some as well. There are ways to lengthen an ethernet run through the use of mid-range bridges. IP cameras will be the easiest to install (especially if you will be using PoE), and will offer the most future proof solution, as they will be the standard for many more years to come. They are are anywhere from 2-4x the cost of standard video cameras, and I don't mean the cheap chinese ones. Spending money on good cameras up front is a worthwhile investment. Axis cameras, while somewhat pricey, are universally accepted by most if not all NVR's, and will set up very quickly and easily. http://www.axis.com/
Also, what cameras to get? IR? Dome cameras or bullet? What mm should they be? How do you know?
This will all depend on the conditions of the site. Do you expect vandalism? Get a rugged dome. Is it an area that has low lighting at night? Get an IR-equipped camera but don't expect too much from it at any real distance. The camera type is mostly aesthetic unless vandal resistance is a big issue. Then height is your friend. Here is a site I just found that can calculate what lenses you will need based on viewing distance and field of view. http://www.cctvlenscalculator.com/
What about viewing over the Internet? Also, how easy is it to hack them? Any additional security recommended?
I do not recommend putting these devices directly on the internet, as they are proprietary (mostly Windows based) systems and as such may have holes you won't know about. Put it behind a good firewall and gateway, and then VPN into the network to connect to it. They can be configured for direct internet access in most cases though, to be accessed by their client software by internet IP. Good luck to you if you try it.
Many commercial DVR/NVR's will have this functionality built in. Motion recording, motion event triggering, motion search, and motion search by area are rather common features in commercial CCTV software. I have never seen anything approaching this in open source or free software.
There are several brands I would recommend. Any of these can sell standalone servers or just the server software.
Exacq (www.exacq.com)
milestone (milestonesys.com)
Avigilon (avigilon.com)
Of those three, Avigilon has the better video handling, IMHO. Especially when working with 3, 5, or 16MP cameras.
All are somewhat comparable in price.
For decent cameras on the cheap, go to supercircuits.com and browse their collection of recorders and cameras. They have a pretty large array of IR-boosted cameras as well.
Outside of that though, one of the best things you can do to increase both the effectiveness of your cameras and the security of your porperty is to install lighting over as much of your property as possible. Night/Motion-sensing lights can be had very cheaply and will do more to deter nighttime theft and/or break-ins than anything else you can do.
You may think that the video quality of a non-megapixel camera is bad, but the reality is that the majority of commercial systems in use today simply don't use them. The general idea commercially is to put as many cameras out there as economically possible, give them adequate lighting (ALL cameras need good lighting, unless you start talking about very pricey ones), and choose a recording system that provides an adequate storage duration (usually 30 days) with a decent framerate and image quality.
A decent quality 4-8 camera networkable and motion-sensing video system can be had easily these days for well under $2000. Now, if someone else is doing the installation, that price can go way up. It's far cheaper to do it yourself.
After just taking a look at Real's market cap (a whopping $831 Million! - my gawd is it really worth that much?!), and Q4 revenue of $125 Million (!), the 10k they would spend on them is a tiny little drop in the bucket compared to what they should already be spending on heavy pentesting anyway. 10k wouldn't even cover the cost of Mt. Dew and Cheetos for a year of a highly qualified pentesters time.....
How much would it damage Real if they (Gleg) just released the exploit into the wild? Far more than 10k's worth, assuredly.
Ah, this brings back memories. In 1978 a scrawny, poor, 8 year old kid (me) was given a TRS80 Model I by the wonderful proprietor of my local Radio Shack. I was in the store every day gawking over the thing and writing the simplest BASIC programs I could learn. When the Model II Came out, he game me the display model of the Model 1 he had (complete with tape recorder interface!). At that point he became a god to me, and I still went there every day to help out in whatever way I could. I'd sweep the floors, clean windows, etc. anything I could do to show my gratitude. I was in little geek heaven.
By the time I was 11 I had given him back the model I in favor of the display model Model III. He was selling them pretty well at that point, and I continued to do lots of work for him. I was already using editor/assembler by then (4 bit - woohoo!) to write routines. I vividly remember the 8" floppy disk with the UNGODLY 1MB of storage it had. I had only 2 disks, and I was never able to fill either of them.
By the time I was 14, I had moved away. I mowed what seemed like 3000 damn yards to earn the money for my next aquisition, a Tandy 1000. It had 128k of RAM (128K OMG so much!!) and 2 of the new fangled 360k 5.25 floppies. Not to mention the graphics. RGB at 320x240 16color, and a whopping 640 x 200(!) at 4 color. When I got that, I thought I was a geek god. :D I still have the 1000 packed up somewhere, and I bet it still works....though the RGB monitor was toast long ago.
I never cared much for the C64, It seemed to me to be a slightly improved version of the Model 1. I did envy all the premade software for it though. I got most of the games I played from magazines...typing in all the code for hours on end just to get to play them. My parents wouldn't let me connect a modem to it. After War Games came out they thought I'd end the world or something with it. :D
Good times...Good times. :)
Google "Dr. George Carlo", you may learn something.
Much like Dr. Carlo's situation, there are far more "studies" proclaiming how *safe* it all is than his one meager voice. But then, look who's paying for the bulk of them. I really don't believe that short term exposure will do much damage. Nor do I think that long distance exposure to low powered sources has as much effect. But I do believe that the true long term effect of microwave exposure hasn't even begun to be discovered.
More and more people are running around with microwave-emitting blobs on the side of their head every day, for over 12+ hours a day, and to me that is the height of stupidity. But by all means, keep believing what you're told. Far be it from me to stop you or anyone from slowly killing themselves.
Like I said, why would they lie?
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." - Albert EinsteinWell, let's see...
I have two friends that worked on radar vessels in the Navy, and both lost their nads to Cancer. The subsequent payments they recieve do nothing to reverse the loss of thier nads, but they do very well nonetheless.
I can't count the number of cops that contracted cancer in the days of the (2.4GHz) radar gun, as well. They used to lay it on their laps, the fools....
Me, I fully expect to see many cases of cancer on the side of the head for all the fools that wear a goddamned earpiece on their friggin heads 24/7. It may take years, but I expect to see it nonetheless. The human body reacts badly to microwave energy. It has been proven time and time again. Sure the average Wi-fi or Bluetooth device is small and weak, but long term exposure (we haven't seen that...yet) I guarantee will bring up cancer rates. And when you have to have a portion of your skull removed (like the cops who lost large chunks of their legs and pelvis to radar guns) you probably won't be able to hear me say "I told you so".
Fearmongering? Maybe. Reality? Very likely. Weather I care if your ignorance give you a better chance of getting cancer? Not even a little bit. The difference between 2.4Ghz and 700-900MHz is very significant, and you obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about.
But what do I know? I've only had my Doctorate in Electronic Engineering for 10 years now....
Let me think....what reason would a multi-billion dollar industry have to deny such accusations like that? Damn if I can figure it out....
Well, who knows what servers they used. Like the other guy's reply, I had no interruption of service. One day it was intermedia@home, the next it was comcast. Hell, it was like 7 years ago. Trying to report it now would just seem kinda useless.
I don't really have any problem with Comcast. I've had cable broadband going on 10 years now. There's nothing else out here in the sticks where I live. DSL is nowhere near available. Before this, I had to pay crazy high prices ($65/mo for the line and $45/mo for the ISP) for an ISDN line just to get something better than 34k or so dialup. I regularly see 10-12Mbps now. There's so few poeple on my node that I rarely if ever see a slowdown. Most of my neighbors are cows.In my area, @home was simply absorbed by Comcast. Comcast isn't going anywhere anytime soon here. They're the only game in town in 3/4 of the state (TN).
I have had cable internet since it was Intermedia back in 1999. FIOS isn't even available in my state (AFAIK, I tried many addresses, even in urban areas, and none came up as available), let alone in my rural area. I regularly get 12Mbps down and 768k up today. The slowest I've ever seen my connection is 4Mbps, and that was years ago. I live so far out that DSL (as slow and wonky as it is) isn't even available to me. Yes, their customer service is a bit crappy, but after going through the hell that is Verizon Wireless for a year (CANCELLED!), Comcast seems like a pretty field, where naked women tend to my every need. Besides, the downstream bandwith I get on my cable modem is equivalent to the FIOS package that would cost me twice what I pay now. I don't really use the up much, so I'm not bothered in the least by it. Sub 30ms latency to 3/4 of the U.S. is pretty nice, too. Was this article written by someone who works for Verizon? They obvioulsly haven't seen anything related to DOCSIS 3. Can't wait for that nice fat pipe to be opened up, for sure....