I happened to walk into Fry's Electronics during the two week period when the Pippen was actually being pushed.
Pippen was not sold as a game console. It was demonstrated as an Internet box similar to WebTV. I think there was also some CD-ROM type shovelware titles for it and maybe some edutainment software. WebTV + CD-i.
Yes, it probably was developed originally as some sort of game box, but somewhere along the way Apple woke up.
Well, the only other reasonable alternative is that the General Counsel of Microsoft is lying about this. He might be calling Adobe's bluff or something, but it doesn't seem likely that he would just completely invent this "threat".
I believe Display Postscript was licensed per copy shipped, which is one of the big reasons that OpenStep was so expensive. It was also reported that Apple wrote Quartz only after negotiations with Adobe over DPS broke down.
Actually the US courts found Microsoft innocent of "bundling", IE is still bundled (as you may have noticed), and MS can legally bundle whatever they'd like as long as they don't leverage their OEM contracts illegally.
Of course, that's why the suit is being threatened in the EU.
What a pointless nitpick. Obviously MS expects a lawsuit because Adobe threatened them with one. I can't imagine any sort of legal suit that don't involve threats of some sort, can you?
Sure, if it really is cheaper. But the biggest direct cost in using Windows is the CALs/seat licences (which unlike Novell are per-organization, not per-server). So in order to have any significant cost reduction, one needs to figure out a way to entirely remove ActiveDirectory (and Exchange) from their organization and stop buying CALs.
When I had a ColecoVision, all the game magazines told me I was cool because I had a "Third Generation System".
Now Wikipedia has downrated my poor Coleco to "Later second generation". BOO.
I figure the consoles that caused the Video Game Crash deserve their own "generation". (Plus the graphics were sigificantly better than the previous systems. A Coleco/5200 is closer to a NES than a 2600.)
NetWare was very very good at File+Print, sure, but it was also not very cheap to run. Server licenses, connection licences, the administrative skillset, supporting the client software, in some cases supporting an IPX WAN, etc. Depending on the situation, buying extra NT servers to replace Novell could well have been cheaper.
You are making a common error seen in the open source world -- Open Code is not the same as Open Standards.
For example, ODF is an open standard that can be implemented by anyone (I think), but the old StarOffice file format wasn't a standard, it just had an open source implementation.
While that might have been true, there was a standards brawl called the "UNIX Wars" right before Windows NT showed up. So clearly some people were frustrated with the state of standardization in the Unix world.
UNIX vendors also basically stopped workstation development (X11, Motif, CDE etc) in the early 90s when NT showed up, giving up the desktop without much of a fight.
If Apple wanted to licence "Plays For Sure" WMP-DRM, do you really think Microsoft would turn them down? I think you need to re-evaluate who is preventing Macs from supporting this.
I'm glad to hear people are thinking pragmatically about this, but even the link you provided is trying to drum up "popular and political support for the Space Elevator".
The "blogosphere" tried to make this thing into a Blogs vs Journalist issue, but the fact is that it's more of a news site than a "blog". The guy reports Mac news and rumors for a living.
(Although I notice that since this thing started, he started using blog-like publishing software. http://www.powerpage.org/)
Sorry for being slightly off topic, but a non-scifi-fan, wouldn't commercially-viable nanotubes have many many more obvious applications than a "space elevator"?
It seems to me that if we had these things, society would spend decades building taller buildings, longer bridgers. lightweight automobiles and so on. And after all that, then maybe it would be feasible to build a space elevator.
It just seems that the advocates of this thing are trying to "shoot the moon" (parden), when perhaps if they weren't so startreky about the application, there would be much more commercial R&D.
ZIP was on the market at least a year or two before LS-120, so it had time to get established.
The Mac Graphics world was previously standardized the 5.25" 52MB Syquest format, where each disk cost about $100. So they rushed headfirst into ZIP when it came out. Also, the early LS-120 drives I used were connected to the slow floppy cable and were almost unusable for large files.
Its called Marketing Speak 101. OMG Look!!! We have ONE MILLION ROWS!!! SOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN THE 65K IN THE PREVIOUS VERSION.
I remember people complaining about Excel's row limits in like 1992. It's been the #1 complaint for years, and we're long past the point where you could pretend that it is a hardware issue or something. This single thing is going to sell more upgrades than the last 200 feature combined.
Bottom line is that "marketing speak" (give the users what they want) is better than "programmer speak" --- OMG! INTERNAL LIMITS!!! TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE!!! USE A DB LOLOLOLOL!!!
Good question. I am thinking that a database table probably is not the most effiencent format for the only mildly structured spreadsheet data.
I could care less about how people use Excel, but one thing that's always bothered me is that the database-like functions (HLOOKUP, VLOOKUP,etc) are very slow compared to a SQL query. It would be nice to be able to select a range and push a "Make DB Table" button and then be able to write SELECT type SQL statements. I'm a database developer and even I think building a schema is overkill for many tasks.
But setting up a system whereby users come out of AD/LDAP and can edit (or not) different areas corresponding to their department/group,
For this reason, we used the Perspective Wiki -- IIS based, uses integrated AD authentication. Probably not the greatest Wiki software, but in my opinion any system that requires another password is a system that people aren't going to want to use.
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I happened to walk into Fry's Electronics during the two week period when the Pippen was actually being pushed.
Pippen was not sold as a game console. It was demonstrated as an Internet box similar to WebTV. I think there was also some CD-ROM type shovelware titles for it and maybe some edutainment software. WebTV + CD-i.
Yes, it probably was developed originally as some sort of game box, but somewhere along the way Apple woke up.
Well, the only other reasonable alternative is that the General Counsel of Microsoft is lying about this. He might be calling Adobe's bluff or something, but it doesn't seem likely that he would just completely invent this "threat".
I believe Display Postscript was licensed per copy shipped, which is one of the big reasons that OpenStep was so expensive. It was also reported that Apple wrote Quartz only after negotiations with Adobe over DPS broke down.
Actually the US courts found Microsoft innocent of "bundling", IE is still bundled (as you may have noticed), and MS can legally bundle whatever they'd like as long as they don't leverage their OEM contracts illegally.
Of course, that's why the suit is being threatened in the EU.
What a pointless nitpick. Obviously MS expects a lawsuit because Adobe threatened them with one. I can't imagine any sort of legal suit that don't involve threats of some sort, can you?
Sure, if it really is cheaper. But the biggest direct cost in using Windows is the CALs/seat licences (which unlike Novell are per-organization, not per-server). So in order to have any significant cost reduction, one needs to figure out a way to entirely remove ActiveDirectory (and Exchange) from their organization and stop buying CALs.
When I had a ColecoVision, all the game magazines told me I was cool because I had a "Third Generation System".
Now Wikipedia has downrated my poor Coleco to "Later second generation". BOO.
I figure the consoles that caused the Video Game Crash deserve their own "generation". (Plus the graphics were sigificantly better than the previous systems. A Coleco/5200 is closer to a NES than a 2600.)
CDE is a monument to that brief moment during the Reagan administration when pastels were the trendyest, most high-tech colors.
Apple dropped A/UX development soon after Windows NT came out.
NetWare was very very good at File+Print, sure, but it was also not very cheap to run. Server licenses, connection licences, the administrative skillset, supporting the client software, in some cases supporting an IPX WAN, etc. Depending on the situation, buying extra NT servers to replace Novell could well have been cheaper.
You are making a common error seen in the open source world -- Open Code is not the same as Open Standards.
For example, ODF is an open standard that can be implemented by anyone (I think), but the old StarOffice file format wasn't a standard, it just had an open source implementation.
While that might have been true, there was a standards brawl called the "UNIX Wars" right before Windows NT showed up. So clearly some people were frustrated with the state of standardization in the Unix world.
UNIX vendors also basically stopped workstation development (X11, Motif, CDE etc) in the early 90s when NT showed up, giving up the desktop without much of a fight.
The NY Times always spells out pronouncable acronyms as if they were a word, so feel free to take it up with them.
Hitler, thank you. The world's a better place
If Apple wanted to licence "Plays For Sure" WMP-DRM, do you really think Microsoft would turn them down? I think you need to re-evaluate who is preventing Macs from supporting this.
I'm glad to hear people are thinking pragmatically about this, but even the link you provided is trying to drum up "popular and political support for the Space Elevator".
I've seen software which does this -- Except it's a TIFF file, and the plain text is captured directly from the print file rather than OCR.
Also, FWIW, the story is incorrect -- one can copy-paste the text using Windows Adobe Reader 7.
The "blogosphere" tried to make this thing into a Blogs vs Journalist issue, but the fact is that it's more of a news site than a "blog". The guy reports Mac news and rumors for a living.
(Although I notice that since this thing started, he started using blog-like publishing software. http://www.powerpage.org/)
Sorry for being slightly off topic, but a non-scifi-fan, wouldn't commercially-viable nanotubes have many many more obvious applications than a "space elevator"?
It seems to me that if we had these things, society would spend decades building taller buildings, longer bridgers. lightweight automobiles and so on. And after all that, then maybe it would be feasible to build a space elevator.
It just seems that the advocates of this thing are trying to "shoot the moon" (parden), when perhaps if they weren't so startreky about the application, there would be much more commercial R&D.
ZIP was on the market at least a year or two before LS-120, so it had time to get established.
The Mac Graphics world was previously standardized the 5.25" 52MB Syquest format, where each disk cost about $100. So they rushed headfirst into ZIP when it came out. Also, the early LS-120 drives I used were connected to the slow floppy cable and were almost unusable for large files.
It worked great if you had the IBM 8131 SCSI Controller. What's a SoundBlaster?
Actually probably the worst installation experience was old IBM ThinkPads running MS Windows 3.1. Major voodoo involved.
Its called Marketing Speak 101. OMG Look!!! We have ONE MILLION ROWS!!! SOOOO MUCH BETTER THAN THE 65K IN THE PREVIOUS VERSION.
I remember people complaining about Excel's row limits in like 1992. It's been the #1 complaint for years, and we're long past the point where you could pretend that it is a hardware issue or something. This single thing is going to sell more upgrades than the last 200 feature combined.
Bottom line is that "marketing speak" (give the users what they want) is better than "programmer speak" --- OMG! INTERNAL LIMITS!!! TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE!!! USE A DB LOLOLOLOL!!!
Good question. I am thinking that a database table probably is not the most effiencent format for the only mildly structured spreadsheet data.
I could care less about how people use Excel, but one thing that's always bothered me is that the database-like functions (HLOOKUP, VLOOKUP,etc) are very slow compared to a SQL query. It would be nice to be able to select a range and push a "Make DB Table" button and then be able to write SELECT type SQL statements. I'm a database developer and even I think building a schema is overkill for many tasks.
My boss sent me a XLS "mockup", and I was shocked to learn that Excel contains a pretty complete paint program.
But setting up a system whereby users come out of AD/LDAP and can edit (or not) different areas corresponding to their department/group,
For this reason, we used the Perspective Wiki -- IIS based, uses integrated AD authentication. Probably not the greatest Wiki software, but in my opinion any system that requires another password is a system that people aren't going to want to use.