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Correct. I'm not threatened by your willingness to pick up a gun to defend what you perceive as your rights. There are very few of you, your numbers are shrinking, and should your kind actually start firing that gun, your lives will be shortened quickly.
In our presently insecure society, the security meme propagates extremely well. It is outcrowding, and will continue to outcrowd, the privacy meme. People need to be led. They're willing to give their lives for security, never mind their privacy. Once the privacy meme has been effectively neutralized and a secure society established, there'll be a few stragglers, but they'll be recognized as paranoids or sociopaths, and given medical treatment to help them overcome their affliction.
You sir, scare the Hell out of me. I hope for the sake of the Republic that your kind is in the minority, or at least that the courts won't agree with you.
No matter how little crime there might be in a police state it is not somewhere I want to live.
I am more than willing to accept insecurity in exchange for freedom. I do not need to have my every breath and step monitored by the police, my employer, my insurance company, my parents, my wife, my neighbor, or even some random salesman.
Please, go study the tactics used by repressive governments throughout history. Now please tell me why being able to track someones every movement, possible associates, and purchase is a good thing?
I suppose people like you won't be convinced of the dangers until it is already too late. When you get automatic tickets in the mail every time you violate a traffic law, when your health insurance rates go up because you are buying too many big macs, or you get rounded up in the latest police drag net because the owner of the kabob shop you buy lunch at every day is a suspected "enemy of the state".
Anonymity (or even Slashdotesque pseudonymity) does not mean that you are not accountable to others for your actions, words, or thoughts. Privacy is not a shield for lawlessness; anonymity is not a shield for privacy.
Alas student performance in home schooling depends on the same thing as student performance in private or public schools, the parents.
Also the parent's educational level seems to make a big difference. Both in home schooling and public schools.
While a majority of people who home school do so for religious or similar reasons, there are a growing number of educated professionals who are opting to home-school their children.
I really don't know where the educator community gets off implying that you have to have an education degree in order to be able to effectively instruct your own children.
If money does buy justice you really shouldn't go around picking on people with more of it than you.
$50 million is pocket change for IBM.
Of course "don't get involved in an intellectual property lawsuit with IBM" is right up there with "don't get involved in a land war in Asia" for things not to do.
Funny thing is every time I've had a major problem due to somebody FSCKing something it was always a major backbone. Specificly Verio is run by a bunch of monkeys. Over the last 4 years I've had endless problems with them fscking routing or DNS for my company or my customers. To get them to acknowledge there is even a problem much less fix it has always been a major struggle.
While a single poorly managed mail server can cause a certain amount of problems for the rest of us, J. Random Bozo setting up a broken DNS server or fscking up his BGP peering is fairly easy to deal with. On the other hand when a major network backbone has bogus zone delgation data or is passing bad routing tables it effects at the very least all of that backbone's downstream customers and in the case of routing quite possibly a fair chunk of the net. Unfortuately as it is a major backbone you can't really just drop BGP peering to fix the problem or get all of their customers to point their DNS lookups elsewhere.
Do you know where these data centers are located? Didn't think so. "Easier" is relative. Everybody knew where the WTC was, and the towers were close together... it will take a bit of digging to find out where the root DNS servers are, and the sites are physically disparate - you can't expect the same type of attack to succeed for each site
This is really not that hard. Except for the servers run by Network Solutions, UUNET, and the US Army the rest should be fairly easy to find. It's typically not that hard to find the physical location of university data centers.
Even for NetSol, UUNET, and US Army root servers there are quite a few people around who know the exact buildings these servers are in. A little careful research could probably dig the locations up.
Not exactly true, while there are 13 IP addresses associated with the root DNS servers there is no reason these need to map to 13 physical boxes in 13 locations.
Witness the trick UWisc used to deal with the NTP traffic floods they were getting from NetGear routers.
Someone like the Army or UUNET could make their root "server" actually be clusters of load balanced servers distributed around their network.
As for taking out the internet with a co-ordinated bomb attack, I can think of much better places to put 13 or so bombs that would disrupt much more than DNS lookups or Internet traffic. The worlds telecommunications infrastructure has some well-known choke points that are quite vulnerable to attack. The North American electric power grid has similar problems.
One wonders how things might have been different without Jon's untimely passing from this world.
No ICCAN, and someone with the power to tell VeriSign where to go shove it.
Also someone who singlehandedly probably could have pushed more widespread adoption of IPv6.
Alas, Paul Vixie is probably the closest we have to Jon these days. While Paul is a good guy he doesn't have nearly the universal respect and authority that Jon did.
This has already happened. The US Military has it's own worldwide TCP/IP networks that are separate from the "Internet" of VeriSign, Slashdot, etc.
In reality all you need are a bunch of computers in various locations with TCP/IP stacks, some method of sending data between them, and DNS servers so you don't have to remember IP addresses or distribute hosts files.
Multiple business extranets are essentially a form of private "internet". Two or more businesses who's computers may be able to access the "big" internet as well set up a private TCP/IP network between themselves via either dedicated communications links or VPN.
There is a third type of monopoly that works as well. It's what is known as a "regulated monopoly". This is what the old Bell system was or what most retail power companies were before deregulation became all the rage 10 years ago.
In a regulated monopoly the infrastructure is privately owned and the owners raise capital for investment in the infrastructure privately. However the deal a regulated monopoly cuts with the government is they are allowed a guarenteed rate of return (ie profit) in exchage for government regulation of many aspects of their business. The state utility commissions and Federal regulators dictate prices, reliablity, levels of service, and where infrastructure investments are made.
This model has worked very well for most business and residential power customers and residential and small business telecommunications services. Unfortunately the private utilities want the monopoly control without the corresponding government regulation.
Second, who says we're going to let you just flit off on an adventure? You are NOT an 'individual.' You're part of a biome, and you can pretend you can just up and leave, but that's your fantasy.
Check out some of NASA's reasearch on the Earth's environment, space has done quite a lot to further our understanding of how the biosphere of our own planet works.
Heck I'd wager the simple PR value for international peace and environmental causes provided by the photos of the Earth taken by the Apollo astronauts far outweighs any money that has been "wasted" on manned or unmanned space flight by all countries combined.
It is by daring to dream that man reaches his greatest heights, not by staring down into the mud and refusing to think about anything other than the immediate future.
If so, it will be interesting to see whether history judges it to have been worth it. I would think that there are immediate problems down here on earth that need to be solved and spending lots of money on a really interesting dream may not be the best way to allocate scarce resources...
By that same rationale we shouldn't spend a bunch of money on faster computers, improved cell phones, undersea fiber optic cables, or improved recreational equipment because there are more pressing problems deserving the money.
Feh!
If the Chinese government wishes to spend money in this way who are we to tell them not to?
Besides without a space race we aren't likely to develop the technology necessary to be able to do something about the next big rock or comet that decides it wants to use Earth for target practice.
They already have first and second placers and the rest have yet to start. They're not racing against anybody.
Not really since the space "race" hasn't ended yet.
The US manned program is at a standstil post-Columbia. It is unclear at this point if NASA will send anyone up anytime soon on a US built spacecraft.
The Russians while still posessing a current manned launch capacity aren't really advancing their technology or capablities very rapidly at the moment.
According to the articles I've read on the Chinese program they are going to have a small space station very soon (part of each manned capsule stays in orbit and are designed to hook together). They are planning to return to the moon within the next 10 years and to do a manned Mars mission in the next 25.
I'd say there is a good chance the US and Russia could end up getting "passed" in the space race by the Chinese.
Of course there is also a fairly good chance based on the US and USSR space program that the Chinese plans beyond the next 10 years or so will not come to pass.
Yes, but that's done through cell tower location, not GPS. GPS doesn't work in buildings, rendering it useless for that application.
Well the cell towers do have GPS receivers on them (needed with digital service for accurate time synchronization).
In any case the service providers, handset makers, and media have taken to calling the E911 handset location function "GPS" even if strictly speaking it isn't.
I suspect given the revenue problems many states are facing that it is simply a matter of time before somebody starts doing it, particularly for cars doing well in excess of the posted limit.
To the powers that be new automated ticketing technologies eventually prove irresistable. Witness the proliferation of photo-radar speed traps and red-light cameras.
I'll leave my transponder inthe trash then, thanks, as I'm sure thousands of others will do. (Everyone speeds on the Mass Pike, even the cops known this and honestly don't really care, as long as you're not reckless and as long as you dont' ride the left lane) If it becomes required then the bastard who legalized it gets voted out and the only person i vote for agrees to repeal it.
Mass pike may not be the proverbial "camel's nose" used to get tracking capablity into most cars. It could be the state DMV for purposes of collecting road taxes based on distance driven (see Oregon). It could be your auto insurance company for the purpose of tracking your driving habits for setting insurance rates (see AXA Ireland). Or it could be a super-national body for who knows what purpose (EU requirement for location transponders in all vehicles by 2010).
Big Brother is watching and has plans to make it even easier for him to watch.
Besides which do you expect is going to be easier to pass: automatic speeding tickets issued whenever a car registered in a particular state speeds or raising sales, property, income, gas and vehicle taxes?
You *can* get phones with GPS, but they cost a fortune. What on earth would a mobile phone need to have GPS for?
Wrong, Federal Law requires all cell phones to have location tracking capablities for E911 service. Once you have some system for that in place it isn't too hard to have the phone know where it is and the network to know where the phone is at all times the phone is on and in communication with the network.
All jokes aside, I believe that the truth is, we are morally messy thinking meat. We are not supposed to know some things, for our own good. These types of technologies will someday threaten the very foundations of our society.
In Mass we have the FastLane tags to automatically pay tolls on the highway. NY and surrounding states have E-Z Pass. Never once have I gotten a speeding ticket on the Mass Pike, and indeed never from FastLane. There is technology already in place to do this, and they don't. It's far too big a pain in the ass.
One wonders how long it will be before the toll paying transponders, the road tax transponder, or the insurance company transponder will be used to automaticly issue speeding tickets. Think of it as a new form of the red-light camera or photo radar that works on all roads all the time.
I seriously doubt local authorities will be able to pass up such a lucrative revenue source for long.
"Left-wing freak Lieberman?" Joe Lieberman's the closest thing the Dems have to a neo-con in the party. Civil libertarians and people who seek peace and international consensus should NOT consider Lieberman a "left wing freak."
I think you misparsed that. The parent post was saying "Dean isn't the left-wing freak Lieberman is claiming he is"
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Correct. I'm not threatened by your willingness to pick up a gun to defend what you perceive as your rights. There are very few of you, your numbers are shrinking, and should your kind actually start firing that gun, your lives will be shortened quickly.
In our presently insecure society, the security meme propagates extremely well. It is outcrowding, and will continue to outcrowd, the privacy meme. People need to be led. They're willing to give their lives for security, never mind their privacy. Once the privacy meme has been effectively neutralized and a secure society established, there'll be a few stragglers, but they'll be recognized as paranoids or sociopaths, and given medical treatment to help them overcome their affliction.
You sir, scare the Hell out of me. I hope for the sake of the Republic that your kind is in the minority, or at least that the courts won't agree with you.
No matter how little crime there might be in a police state it is not somewhere I want to live.
I am more than willing to accept insecurity in exchange for freedom. I do not need to have my every breath and step monitored by the police, my employer, my insurance company, my parents, my wife, my neighbor, or even some random salesman.
Please, go study the tactics used by repressive governments throughout history. Now please tell me why being able to track someones every movement, possible associates, and purchase is a good thing?
I suppose people like you won't be convinced of the dangers until it is already too late. When you get automatic tickets in the mail every time you violate a traffic law, when your health insurance rates go up because you are buying too many big macs, or you get rounded up in the latest police drag net because the owner of the kabob shop you buy lunch at every day is a suspected "enemy of the state".
Anonymity (or even Slashdotesque pseudonymity) does not mean that you are not accountable to others for your actions, words, or thoughts. Privacy is not a shield for lawlessness; anonymity is not a shield for privacy.
Fortunately the US Supreme Court doesn't agree with you see McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission (93-986), 514 U.S. 334 (1995). The right to speak anonymously is fundamental to free speech. Look no further than The Federalist Papers, or Thomas Payne for examples.
Alas student performance in home schooling depends on the same thing as student performance in private or public schools, the parents.
Also the parent's educational level seems to make a big difference. Both in home schooling and public schools.
While a majority of people who home school do so for religious or similar reasons, there are a growing number of educated professionals who are opting to home-school their children.
I really don't know where the educator community gets off implying that you have to have an education degree in order to be able to effectively instruct your own children.
Doh! (in Homer Simpson voice)
Money can't buy justice!
Err... um, money didn't always buy justice!/I.
If money does buy justice you really shouldn't go around picking on people with more of it than you.
$50 million is pocket change for IBM.
Of course "don't get involved in an intellectual property lawsuit with IBM" is right up there with "don't get involved in a land war in Asia" for things not to do.
Funny thing is every time I've had a major problem due to somebody FSCKing something it was always a major backbone. Specificly Verio is run by a bunch of monkeys. Over the last 4 years I've had endless problems with them fscking routing or DNS for my company or my customers. To get them to acknowledge there is even a problem much less fix it has always been a major struggle.
While a single poorly managed mail server can cause a certain amount of problems for the rest of us, J. Random Bozo setting up a broken DNS server or fscking up his BGP peering is fairly easy to deal with. On the other hand when a major network backbone has bogus zone delgation data or is passing bad routing tables it effects at the very least all of that backbone's downstream customers and in the case of routing quite possibly a fair chunk of the net. Unfortuately as it is a major backbone you can't really just drop BGP peering to fix the problem or get all of their customers to point their DNS lookups elsewhere.
Do you know where these data centers are located? Didn't think so. "Easier" is relative. Everybody knew where the WTC was, and the towers were close together... it will take a bit of digging to find out where the root DNS servers are, and the sites are physically disparate - you can't expect the same type of attack to succeed for each site
This is really not that hard. Except for the servers run by Network Solutions, UUNET, and the US Army the rest should be fairly easy to find. It's typically not that hard to find the physical location of university data centers.
Even for NetSol, UUNET, and US Army root servers there are quite a few people around who know the exact buildings these servers are in. A little careful research could probably dig the locations up.
Not exactly true, while there are 13 IP addresses associated with the root DNS servers there is no reason these need to map to 13 physical boxes in 13 locations.
Witness the trick UWisc used to deal with the NTP traffic floods they were getting from NetGear routers.
Someone like the Army or UUNET could make their root "server" actually be clusters of load balanced servers distributed around their network.
As for taking out the internet with a co-ordinated bomb attack, I can think of much better places to put 13 or so bombs that would disrupt much more than DNS lookups or Internet traffic. The worlds telecommunications infrastructure has some well-known choke points that are quite vulnerable to attack. The North American electric power grid has similar problems.
One wonders how things might have been different without Jon's untimely passing from this world.
No ICCAN, and someone with the power to tell VeriSign where to go shove it.
Also someone who singlehandedly probably could have pushed more widespread adoption of IPv6.
Alas, Paul Vixie is probably the closest we have to Jon these days. While Paul is a good guy he doesn't have nearly the universal respect and authority that Jon did.
This has already happened. The US Military has it's own worldwide TCP/IP networks that are separate from the "Internet" of VeriSign, Slashdot, etc.
In reality all you need are a bunch of computers in various locations with TCP/IP stacks, some method of sending data between them, and DNS servers so you don't have to remember IP addresses or distribute hosts files.
Multiple business extranets are essentially a form of private "internet". Two or more businesses who's computers may be able to access the "big" internet as well set up a private TCP/IP network between themselves via either dedicated communications links or VPN.
There is a third type of monopoly that works as well. It's what is known as a "regulated monopoly". This is what the old Bell system was or what most retail power companies were before deregulation became all the rage 10 years ago.
In a regulated monopoly the infrastructure is privately owned and the owners raise capital for investment in the infrastructure privately. However the deal a regulated monopoly cuts with the government is they are allowed a guarenteed rate of return (ie profit) in exchage for government regulation of many aspects of their business. The state utility commissions and Federal regulators dictate prices, reliablity, levels of service, and where infrastructure investments are made.
This model has worked very well for most business and residential power customers and residential and small business telecommunications services. Unfortunately the private utilities want the monopoly control without the corresponding government regulation.
Second, who says we're going to let you just flit off on an adventure? You are NOT an 'individual.' You're part of a biome, and you can pretend you can just up and leave, but that's your fantasy.
Check out some of NASA's reasearch on the Earth's environment, space has done quite a lot to further our understanding of how the biosphere of our own planet works.
Heck I'd wager the simple PR value for international peace and environmental causes provided by the photos of the Earth taken by the Apollo astronauts far outweighs any money that has been "wasted" on manned or unmanned space flight by all countries combined.
It is by daring to dream that man reaches his greatest heights, not by staring down into the mud and refusing to think about anything other than the immediate future.
If so, it will be interesting to see whether history judges it to have been worth it. I would think that there are immediate problems down here on earth that need to be solved and spending lots of money on a really interesting dream may not be the best way to allocate scarce resources...
By that same rationale we shouldn't spend a bunch of money on faster computers, improved cell phones, undersea fiber optic cables, or improved recreational equipment because there are more pressing problems deserving the money.
Feh!
If the Chinese government wishes to spend money in this way who are we to tell them not to?
Besides without a space race we aren't likely to develop the technology necessary to be able to do something about the next big rock or comet that decides it wants to use Earth for target practice.
They already have first and second placers and the rest have yet to start. They're not racing against anybody.
Not really since the space "race" hasn't ended yet.
The US manned program is at a standstil post-Columbia. It is unclear at this point if NASA will send anyone up anytime soon on a US built spacecraft.
The Russians while still posessing a current manned launch capacity aren't really advancing their technology or capablities very rapidly at the moment.
According to the articles I've read on the Chinese program they are going to have a small space station very soon (part of each manned capsule stays in orbit and are designed to hook together). They are planning to return to the moon within the next 10 years and to do a manned Mars mission in the next 25.
I'd say there is a good chance the US and Russia could end up getting "passed" in the space race by the Chinese.
Of course there is also a fairly good chance based on the US and USSR space program that the Chinese plans beyond the next 10 years or so will not come to pass.
Whoa dude, methinks you need to up the prozac dosage a tad and stay off freerepublic.com.
Of course, the obvious solution is, don't buy a fucking cell phone
If you are a law abiding citizen you shouldn't have anything to worry about. Unless you have something to hide?
Yes, but that's done through cell tower location, not GPS. GPS doesn't work in buildings, rendering it useless for that application.
Well the cell towers do have GPS receivers on them (needed with digital service for accurate time synchronization).
In any case the service providers, handset makers, and media have taken to calling the E911 handset location function "GPS" even if strictly speaking it isn't.
I suspect given the revenue problems many states are facing that it is simply a matter of time before somebody starts doing it, particularly for cars doing well in excess of the posted limit.
To the powers that be new automated ticketing technologies eventually prove irresistable. Witness the proliferation of photo-radar speed traps and red-light cameras.
I'll leave my transponder inthe trash then, thanks, as I'm sure thousands of others will do. (Everyone speeds on the Mass Pike, even the cops known this and honestly don't really care, as long as you're not reckless and as long as you dont' ride the left lane) If it becomes required then the bastard who legalized it gets voted out and the only person i vote for agrees to repeal it.
Mass pike may not be the proverbial "camel's nose" used to get tracking capablity into most cars. It could be the state DMV for purposes of collecting road taxes based on distance driven (see Oregon). It could be your auto insurance company for the purpose of tracking your driving habits for setting insurance rates (see AXA Ireland). Or it could be a super-national body for who knows what purpose (EU requirement for location transponders in all vehicles by 2010).
Big Brother is watching and has plans to make it even easier for him to watch.
Besides which do you expect is going to be easier to pass: automatic speeding tickets issued whenever a car registered in a particular state speeds or raising sales, property, income, gas and vehicle taxes?
You *can* get phones with GPS, but they cost a fortune. What on earth would a mobile phone need to have GPS for?
Wrong, Federal Law requires all cell phones to have location tracking capablities for E911 service. Once you have some system for that in place it isn't too hard to have the phone know where it is and the network to know where the phone is at all times the phone is on and in communication with the network.
All jokes aside, I believe that the truth is, we are morally messy thinking meat. We are not supposed to know some things, for our own good. These types of technologies will someday threaten the very foundations of our society.
Someday? you mean they haven't already?
T-mobile, AT&T, and Cingular are supported as well as long as your "friend" has a GPS capable phone.
In Mass we have the FastLane tags to automatically pay tolls on the highway. NY and surrounding states have E-Z Pass. Never once have I gotten a speeding ticket on the Mass Pike, and indeed never from FastLane. There is technology already in place to do this, and they don't. It's far too big a pain in the ass.
One wonders how long it will be before the toll paying transponders, the road tax transponder, or the insurance company transponder will be used to automaticly issue speeding tickets. Think of it as a new form of the red-light camera or photo radar that works on all roads all the time.
I seriously doubt local authorities will be able to pass up such a lucrative revenue source for long.
Well it's the EMP blast or submit to the full strip/body cavity search before being allowed in the theater.
"Left-wing freak Lieberman?" Joe Lieberman's the closest thing the Dems have to a neo-con in the party. Civil libertarians and people who seek peace and international consensus should NOT consider Lieberman a "left wing freak."
I think you misparsed that. The parent post was saying "Dean isn't the left-wing freak Lieberman is claiming he is"