I second the point on smaller businesses not having the cash to maintain bogus investigations just to delay the release of information, but this can be easily fixed by establishing a deadline that cannot be easily stretched (something akin to "even with an investigation running, you must notify your customers within one month").
Special clauses must mention that when sensitive information is compromised (trade secrets, credit card numbers, etc) customers should be notified IMMEDIATELY, barring a judge authorizing a delay of that to protect an investigation for justified, specific reasons - ie no blank checks should be given for non-disclosure.
Hate to state the obvious, but always beating our chests with the "there is no money for science" theme is not bound to generate sympathy, especially when the poor and old DSN has just received the money to build a new 34m dish at the Madrid station.
Why not reading the article before spitting out the old song about money and science? Have you considered what state is the Russian deep space network now ? tracking is available only above Russia (which is probably 14 timezones, but is still barely 1/2 of what the DSN can do) and the mighty fleet of tracking ships has been sold for scrap metal. Heck, Russia can't even track objects in Earth orbit for the full span of the orbit! So think before posting!
-Muad'Dib
PS: If instead you told me that some of the 400bln tossed by Bush IInd in the Pentagon's budget could be spent better than just in funding the "military/industrial combine" Eisenhower was scared of, I totally agree. There is no match militarily for the US, but they *have* to spend 400bln in things that do not increase homeland security - why ? well, simply because the weapons/defense industry is filling the pockets of a congressman near you....:-(
Undoubetdly. Bostonians and New Yorkers are all too busy running around and honking at whoever is in front of them to *STOP*, think and troubleshoot a device (an inherently time consuming thing).
It's used pretty much the same Way in Qt (which can be licensed as GPL, QPL (OpenSource type license) and commercially) and it seems to work well - hopefully it is an acceptable business model to let Free and Commercial live side by side.
As of RMS being happy about it (or anything else for that ) I think you are making a step a little too big...;-)
Actually, the Academic License and the Non-Commercial edition are two different things.
academic -> for schools, universities, etc. free as in beer,
NCE -> no-warranty, no-support license for developing windows apps. It is called "non-commercial" because it can only be legally used to produce non-commercial apps (Doh!).
http://www.trolltech.com/developer/download/qt-win -noncomm.html
I would expect the mac version to become NCE available sometime. However, I must note that it was not an immediate thing for windows, so it might take some time.
Genetically-engineered wheat is generally
crippled, forcing farmers to buy new seed from the company
year after year. For God's sake! - The reason why it is not only good but necessary to have it crippled is the preservation of the existing biota. One thing is creating artificial speacies/variants (which I do not frown upon), another is to let them run amok in the environment risking the results that occurred when Australia was colonized. read your history book, Michael.
I am a TA in Boston College (Which is neither a college nor in Boston... bot that is another story). Anyhow, while we use free platforms (and if anyone asks for Codewarrior code, it is most likely to be Codewarrior for Linux) and require them, the situation is sadly the same: it is quite difficult for a TA and a professor to grade the weekly assignments timely unless the platform is somewhat standardized. Doing otherwise would burden the teaching team with too much work, and even if the prof+TA pair wanted to handle it, students would be damaged by receiving their assignments corrected with higher delays.... which is most positively not good.
What to do ? Well, if the school can afford it, having multiple TAs could help, so that while one TA grades the "standard" platform, the other one goes on to install/get to know the environment the oddball students want to use.
The benefits are however limited, since most of the CS classes are not about the language,its library or its quirks but about "larger" issues (Data structures, OS architecture and so on) than code hacking.
What about a hacker's university ? Oh,well... after all we already have MIT =)
I seem to ermember that students at Stellenbisch University, near Cape Town, do build their own OS during the second year - but they do that under Oberon. Still, it is a remarkable achievemnt....
In my university, Boston College, it depends on the professor teaching the course. I know a professor used to require teaking Minix, but the current trend seems to be writing a scheduler for Linux, although the problem is not really tackled at system level.
Mmmh - I do not want to wander too much off-topic, but I would find a NETBIOS over TCP BROWSER a very convenient thing to have in order to move files around a LAN. Essentially, being able to access the Nethood from LInux. I just wonder why Linux does not have any interesting toy like that - do all people love ftp ? It would make sense to have such functionality in integreated environments like KDE (their file browser even supports TAR URLs!) - so, am I missing something in the picture ? Is it so tough to write a netbios browser ? Or is it out there and I am blind and cannot find it ?
>Not only that, I found out later that their 6x86 '166' wasn't actually 166Mhz. It ran at 133 and had "special features that make it run as fast as if it were 166Mhz". What a clever marketing scheme
It is called P-rating, and it was not a marketing scheme but a way to compare 5th-generation processors built on different cpu cores. IBM used it as well, and I believe AMD had done the same.
I vowed to never buy another Cyrix processor as long as I may live
Just because a cheap salesman lied to you you are not entitled to blame Cyrix. With the AMD Athlon as the only notable exception, Intel's cpu cores have always been the most powerful in their class during their lifetime as cutting edge technology (please no trolls on the fact that, yeah, you can now buy a faster 486 from somebody else but, guess what ? Intel is making pentium IIIs!). Notably, in the area of floating point operations, intel's cores have never been challenged until the Athlon came along, and if you ever believed otherwise it probably means you were either looking at outdated technology OR you did not know your chips (in other words, the salesman was thinking for you).
Apart from the flame war I seem to have started, lets look at the bright side: most of ms-sided folks say it is possible to make windows stable. Some other guy will rather say "sure thing, just do not run it". What about a Stable-windows howto? It could _really_ spare a lot of people some serious headache and make life easier for power users. So... Should we ask NASA for the howto or... is someone up to the task ? Don't tell me "remove unstable *stuff* and it will work". too easy! Give us the procedures ! Do you think we don't want a stable windows installation just to be able to flame M$ ? Hey, most of us use windows anyways. So.. take it up the linux way! Show us what Windows can do. Or do we need to ask the NASA guys for this ?
Hey - never thought this morning I would spark such a flame !
But why force the astronauts to spend time learning to use a brand new, complex operating system? Why force them to use a different word processor, spreadsheet and e-mail program than what they've used before? Because can do that on earth, in the YEARS between missions. Windows reinstalls will happen in space instead wich is both uneconomical AND silly. And, yes, people know how to use windows. Did you read they are going to use Office ? How many times did that crash on you ? Of course they know how to use it - everyone does, I am posting from M$ IE - but what is convenient in Earth (rebbot - no big deal) is NOT in space. They'll either use those stations just for astronaut's e-mail and excel (in which case, unless you lose the data of an experiment in a crash, reboot is a good excuse for a coffee break) or they are headed for trouble. Hey, just wait - I am sure that with the current attitude toward computing, you'll hear CNN reports for the first two-or-three crashes that lose data that was important or ruin a million-bucks experiment. I don't care how many PHds they have at NASA - the guy knows what he's doing for sure. It will be nice to see astronauts replacing his 10b2 cable when anything happens, or cope with windows _oh so stable_ configurations and networkin'. "hey - I lost those drivers for the space telescope in the last crash" =) -- just kidding. Hey - You WILL SEE what good advertisement those crashes will be for the M$ platform. just wait and see.
Yeah, Right. TIME is the big issue, in space.
on
Space Station's LAN
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Are you nuts !? this is not about doing sysadmin or not (which unix can do remotely _anyways_), this is about an astronaut's time being *pretty expensive*. Just the cost of waiting for a reboot is astronomical, in space. How many times did you reinstall windows, huh ? think at doing that in space, at how darn expensive that is. Talk about zero-administration costs =)
Don't give me that crap - and keep counting how many times thay'll have to reinstall and (huh, huh) configure Windows crazy networking - you WILL need a sysadmin in space, after all.
I bet a pizza that within five years of operation they'll switch the stuff to linux or solaris - the only things that got windows in space were the applications, not the OS. Remember that.
(I'd rather run Wine - sheesh).
10b2 draws zero power. It does NOT draw 0 time. that is going to be the real problem. And Yes, I would tell those guys at NASA what to do as much as to any other average joe who needs advice.
This is going to be fun. Not for the poor soul on Eart who has to administer it, though.
Guess what ? In Europe it takes decades to make a law about public toilets, but the guys managed to Ban this stuff already. Great - obviously not their problem all those people who die because of organs not being available for transplant. Unbelivable - do politicians know what the Yuck factor is ? they seem to be quite affected by that...at least in the old continent. It is a CNN or BCC article, but I can't find it anymore. The decision was taken by some European Commission/Council, and it affects both human and animal tsting - well, I guess they will just buy the technology from the US when their brains finally start running.
Most used systems come with OS included.... which seems good, although I am left with a question: being a non-Sun person I am rather puzzled as of what to consider as a decent machine to run solaris 7 (which I got in the 10 bux distribution for x86/SPARC).
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Ever noticed how Darl McBride resembles Kenneth Irons of Witchbalde memory ? Just a thought... (thank god McBride does not have *that* kind of cash :-)
Someone still hasa sense of humor.... hey SCO: Sue me!
Mark V. Shaney ?
I second the point on smaller businesses not having the cash to maintain bogus investigations just to delay the release of information, but this can be easily fixed by establishing a deadline that cannot be easily stretched (something akin to "even with an investigation running, you must notify your customers within one month").
Special clauses must mention that when sensitive information is compromised (trade secrets, credit card numbers, etc) customers should be notified IMMEDIATELY, barring a judge authorizing a delay of that to protect an investigation for justified, specific reasons - ie no blank checks should be given for non-disclosure.
Hate to state the obvious, but always beating our chests with the "there is no money for science" theme is not bound to generate sympathy, especially when the poor and old DSN has just received the money to build a new 34m dish at the Madrid station.
:-(
Why not reading the article before spitting out the old song about money and science? Have you considered what state is the Russian deep space network now ? tracking is available only above Russia (which is probably 14 timezones, but is still barely 1/2 of what the DSN can do) and the mighty fleet of tracking ships has been sold for scrap metal. Heck, Russia can't even track objects in Earth orbit for the full span of the orbit! So think before posting!
-Muad'Dib
PS: If instead you told me that some of the 400bln tossed by Bush IInd in the Pentagon's budget could be spent better than just in funding the "military/industrial combine" Eisenhower was scared of, I totally agree. There is no match militarily for the US, but they *have* to spend 400bln in things that do not increase homeland security - why ? well, simply because the weapons/defense industry is filling the pockets of a congressman near you....
LOL - I am in the NE too, dear "excuse my French" elefantstn - besides, you just proved my point! =)
Calm down, the world is not going to end because of you (and stop honking, goddamit!).
-Muad
Undoubetdly. Bostonians and New Yorkers are all too busy running around and honking at whoever is in front of them to *STOP*, think and troubleshoot a device (an inherently time consuming thing).
The NE needs to calm down a bit, IMHO.
-Muad
I agree that it works well in the paradigm
;-)
OpenSource/Free Software -> Free (beer) license
closed source/commercial -> $$$ license
It's used pretty much the same Way in Qt (which can be licensed as GPL, QPL (OpenSource type license) and commercially) and it seems to work well - hopefully it is an acceptable business model to let Free and Commercial live side by side.
As of RMS being happy about it (or anything else for that ) I think you are making a step a little too big...
-Muad'Dib
Actually, the Academic License and the Non-Commercial edition are two different things. academic -> for schools, universities, etc. free as in beer, NCE -> no-warranty, no-support license for developing windows apps. It is called "non-commercial" because it can only be legally used to produce non-commercial apps (Doh!). http://www.trolltech.com/developer/download/qt-win -noncomm.html
I would expect the mac version to become NCE available sometime. However, I must note that it was not an immediate thing for windows, so it might take some time.
Genetically-engineered wheat is generally crippled, forcing farmers to buy new seed from the company year after year.
For God's sake! - The reason why it is not only good but necessary to have it crippled is the preservation of the existing biota. One thing is creating artificial speacies/variants (which I do not frown upon), another is to let them run amok in the environment risking the results that occurred when Australia was colonized. read your history book, Michael.
I am a TA in Boston College (Which is neither a college nor in Boston... bot that is another story). Anyhow, while we use free platforms (and if anyone asks for Codewarrior code, it is most likely to be Codewarrior for Linux) and require them, the situation is sadly the same: it is quite difficult for a TA and a professor to grade the weekly assignments timely unless the platform is somewhat standardized. Doing otherwise would burden the teaching team with too much work, and even if the prof+TA pair wanted to handle it, students would be damaged by receiving their assignments corrected with higher delays.... which is most positively not good.
What to do ? Well, if the school can afford it, having multiple TAs could help, so that while one TA grades the "standard" platform, the other one goes on to install/get to know the environment the oddball students want to use.
The benefits are however limited, since most of the CS classes are not about the language,its library or its quirks but about "larger" issues (Data structures, OS architecture and so on) than code hacking.
What about a hacker's university ? Oh,well... after all we already have MIT =)
I seem to ermember that students at Stellenbisch University, near Cape Town, do build their own OS during the second year - but they do that under Oberon. Still, it is a remarkable achievemnt....
In my university, Boston College, it depends on the professor teaching the course. I know a professor used to require teaking Minix, but the current trend seems to be writing a scheduler for Linux, although the problem is not really tackled at system level.
BTW: our CS lab is 60% RedHat Linux, 40% WinnNT.
Mmmh - I do not want to wander too much off-topic, but I would find a NETBIOS over TCP BROWSER a very convenient thing to have in order to move files around a LAN. Essentially, being able to access the Nethood from LInux. I just wonder why Linux does not have any interesting toy like that - do all people love ftp ? It would make sense to have such functionality in integreated environments like KDE (their file browser even supports TAR URLs!) - so, am I missing something in the picture ? Is it so tough to write a netbios browser ? Or is it out there and I am blind and cannot find it ?
>Not only that, I found out later that their 6x86 '166' wasn't actually 166Mhz. It ran at 133 and had "special features that make it run as fast as if it were 166Mhz". What a clever marketing scheme
It is called P-rating, and it was not a marketing scheme but a way to compare 5th-generation processors built on different cpu cores. IBM used it as well, and I believe AMD had done the same.
I vowed to never buy another Cyrix processor as long as I may live
Just because a cheap salesman lied to you you are not entitled to blame Cyrix. With the AMD Athlon as the only notable exception, Intel's cpu cores have always been the most powerful in their class during their lifetime as cutting edge technology (please no trolls on the fact that, yeah, you can now buy a faster 486 from somebody else but, guess what ? Intel is making pentium IIIs!).
Notably, in the area of floating point operations, intel's cores have never been challenged until the Athlon came along, and if you ever believed otherwise it probably means you were either looking at outdated technology OR you did not know your chips (in other words, the salesman was thinking for you).
Apart from the flame war I seem to have started, lets look at the bright side: most of ms-sided folks say it is possible to make windows stable. Some other guy will rather say "sure thing, just do not run it". What about a Stable-windows howto?
It could _really_ spare a lot of people some serious headache and make life easier for power users. So... Should we ask NASA for the howto or... is someone up to the task ? Don't tell me "remove unstable *stuff* and it will work". too easy! Give us the procedures ! Do you think we don't want a stable windows installation just to be able to flame M$ ? Hey, most of us use windows anyways. So.. take it up the linux way! Show us what Windows can do. Or do we need to ask the NASA guys for this ?
Hey - never thought this morning I would spark such a flame !
(cool - I never replied to myself, before!)
But why force the astronauts to spend time learning to use a brand new, complex operating system? Why force them to use a different word processor, spreadsheet and e-mail program than what they've used before? Because can do that on earth, in the YEARS between missions. Windows reinstalls will happen in space instead wich is both uneconomical AND silly. And, yes, people know how to use windows. Did you read they are going to use Office ? How many times did that crash on you ? Of course they know how to use it - everyone does, I am posting from M$ IE - but what is convenient in Earth (rebbot - no big deal) is NOT in space. They'll either use those stations just for astronaut's e-mail and excel (in which case, unless you lose the data of an experiment in a crash, reboot is a good excuse for a coffee break) or they are headed for trouble. Hey, just wait - I am sure that with the current attitude toward computing, you'll hear CNN reports for the first two-or-three crashes that lose data that was important or ruin a million-bucks experiment. I don't care how many PHds they have at NASA - the guy knows what he's doing for sure. It will be nice to see astronauts replacing his 10b2 cable when anything happens, or cope with windows _oh so stable_ configurations and networkin'. "hey - I lost those drivers for the space telescope in the last crash" =) -- just kidding. Hey - You WILL SEE what good advertisement those crashes will be for the M$ platform. just wait and see.
Are you nuts !? this is not about doing sysadmin or not (which unix can do remotely _anyways_), this is about an astronaut's time being *pretty expensive*. Just the cost of waiting for a reboot is astronomical, in space. How many times did you reinstall windows, huh ? think at doing that in space, at how darn expensive that is. Talk about zero-administration costs =)
Don't give me that crap - and keep counting how many times thay'll have to reinstall and (huh, huh) configure Windows crazy networking - you WILL need a sysadmin in space, after all.
I bet a pizza that within five years of operation they'll switch the stuff to linux or solaris - the only things that got windows in space were the applications, not the OS. Remember that.
(I'd rather run Wine - sheesh).
10b2 draws zero power. It does NOT draw 0 time. that is going to be the real problem. And Yes, I would tell those guys at NASA what to do as much as to any other average joe who needs advice.
This is going to be fun. Not for the poor soul on Eart who has to administer it, though.
Guess what ? In Europe it takes decades to make a law about public toilets, but the guys managed to Ban this stuff already. Great - obviously not their problem all those people who die because of organs not being available for transplant. Unbelivable - do politicians know what the Yuck factor is ? they seem to be quite affected by that...at least in the old continent. It is a CNN or BCC article, but I can't find it anymore. The decision was taken by some European Commission/Council, and it affects both human and animal tsting - well, I guess they will just buy the technology from the US when their brains finally start running.
Most used systems come with OS included.... which seems good, although I am left with a question: being a non-Sun person I am rather puzzled as of what to consider as a decent machine to run solaris 7 (which I got in the 10 bux distribution for x86/SPARC).