Do you recall me defending our actions then? Do you recall me saying the Russians would have been unjustified in coming for him here had we been helping and training him here in the US? I'm not saying that the Taliban's activity is not psychologically understandable, nor am I even saying that we necessarily took the BEST course of action to try and get them to give up Bin Laden. The fact remains, they supported and were supported by Al Quaeda, and are easily as culpable as, say, Saudi Arabia, in the attacks on 9/11.
Does that justify all of our response? Does that mean we are justified in treating Saudi Arabia with kid gloves instead of more military? Probably not, but it's really really really stupid to say "why would anyone confuse the Taliban with Al Quaeda?"
I don't even think that just because Mike was trying to support the Taliban that he should be treated like a terrorist (I don't see any factual data to support the assertion that he was any kind of threat to US civilians, for example), but that wasn't the question the original poster asked.
Scuse me? Extradition treaty with a "government" that only two other governments in the world recognized? I'm thinking a formal request was made through reasonable diplomatic channels (probably through Pakistan). Beyond that, what do you expect us to have done when dealing with a government that was not recognized as legitimate?
I don't recall claiming that we were blameless. The fact remains that they should have handed him over in some way or form after it was clear what had been done by his organization.
So because he wanted to provide mercenary military aid on the field of battle, suddenly he is equivalent to people who kill civilians because they want to make a statement? Going to a war zone to defend those you think are right is the same thing as planting a bomb in your home town/state/country (where it may kill your own family members)?
I think you're the one in the warped world if you think all that's the same. Your logic is the logic that actually SUPPORTS the case the terrorists make, that you and I simply by being Americans are therefore responsible for all the stupid verging on evil things that the CIA and our military do in "covert ops" that harm innocent people.
They still wrongfully abducted him. Sure it's "legal", but then so was wife beating for a long time.
As for his guilt, there is always the possibility that he took the most certain way out rather than gambling his innocence against 20 years in prison. Given the witch hunt atmosphere, he could rightly believe that even though innocent he couldn't prove it.
Oh, by the way, why didn't they abduct the other 6 people and hold them without charge for 5 weeks to forver too?
See, he didn't even make contact with the Taliban, and there's no indication that he was interested in killing civilians--he wanted to aid them in the field against the military. So explain again what threat he was posing in those 5 weeks?
The Taliban were supported to a large extent by Al Quaeda; the fact remains that they were in a position to cooperate with the US and help bring Al Quaeda to justice, and flatly refused to do so.
If you know someone just killed one of your neighbors' children, and you hide them in your house and refuse to put them out when the police come for them, why would you be surprised when the police come and storm your house? And who would say the police were not justified?
Could someone explain why people are comparing the Talaban to Al Queda?
Because the Talaban sheltered Al Quaeda, provided them land to build training camps, and refused to give up their leadership even after the attacks of 9/11?
I think that their direct support of Bin Laden makes a clear case that they are culpable for terrorism. And I don't even agree with the war on Iraq or any of the dozens of stupid things the Feds have done in the name of defending us from terrorism.
Exactly. It is not reasonable to hold people for weeks without charge, regardless. I think it's also interesting to note that a plea bargain may be what it says it is, or it may constitute a coerced admission (coerced by the alternative of losing even if you're right, and spending 20+ years instead of 7 in jail). Beyond all that, this guy utterly failed to actually provide any aid to the Taliban, and it seems unlikely that he'd undertake any "true" terrorism (I think there's some significant difference between attempting to be a mercenary for your cause in a battlefield and bringing the battlefield to civilians after all).
All that said, there's nothing for it but to accept the plea as presented until such a time as Mike recants it. And if he'd been successful, and caught on the field of battle, he would deserve having a book thrown at him as much as John Walker Lindh. But having failed at that, I think it's outrageous that he was facing the same or greater sentence than Lindh himself (20 years).
For those that wants it, more power to ya. But the criticism was about the claim that the average Sun admin/employee wouldn't want to come home and do "even more work" on a Sun box at home. Most of us who don't run Solaris at home (well I do, but only for work at home purposes) are not avoiding it because it's "too much work" but because it's not optimal. If you *want* to tinker all the time, hey that's great, but I wouldn't expect the majority of Sun employees to want to do that tinkering. In fact, reality is, the majority of Sun employees aren't techies--Sun employs a bunch of sales people, managers, administrative workers of all sorts, none of whom are expected to be techies, most of whom aren't in reality techies, so why would they do techie things at home?
Actually it is a huge surprise. I work for Sun in the field. Maybe the folks back in corporate are all mac heads, but I'm one of only two or three of the several dozen field folks in my major metro that I know owns a mac. And I know many others who have PC's like so many other people, both here and around the country.
Sounds to me like this is just spin to try and push towards that nebulous partnership with Apple by giving them some good press. Oh, and did I mention I own more PCs than macs still?
With regard to running SPARCs at home, that's just silliness. You don't run much quicken, unreal tournament, etc. on Solaris. It has nothing to do with "how hard" it is to get applications working on Solaris, it's that I have no need to run Oracle or Pro/E or a major webservice at home.
As for Sun not knowing CPUs, if that's really what Intel thinks, they're stupider than their history makes them out to be. Sun "inherited" a bunch of talented CPU people from other companies that have joined the dustbin of history, and have had a few of our own along the way as well. How much longer than Intel have we had a working 64 bit architecture?
Your days are unfortunately numbered. Adobe decided that they no longer need to support their friends with Macs, it seems likely that this attitude will continue with all their products, not just Premiere.
Did you even pay attention to what that "list" link pointed to? It's a list of DVD players that are compatable with iDVD written media. "The following table lists players that we have specifically tested for playability." Not a damn thing about compatable writers.
iDVD does not work with anything other than a Superdrive according to all the Apple literature I've been able to find. That violates a key constraint as requested.
I submitted one that said "slashdork" in the font and such, but it was rejected as "not having that POP". Now, how the one that just says "slashdot" DOES have "that POP" I don't get, but I will admit all the others are definitely better than mine. I suppose that doesn't answer your question, but at least I was going for truth in advertising.
As opposed to a single directory full of P07310003.jpg files, as would be the case for the 80% of users who don't know how to automatically script downloading and renaming of the photos from the camera? Personally, while I wouldn't want to navigate the directory structure manually very often, the naming conventions are clear and for the target audience mostly transparent anyway.
Sprint PCS sucks. There's no other way around it. Here in Chicagoland, we regularly miss calls when the phone is on and shows a good signal, and of course you don't get voice mail notification until 30 minutes later if you're lucky. If I could convince my wife that she really could get a different phone with a different carrier that could still double as a pager (vibrate mode critical, she's frequently in classroom situations where a ringer would be a no-no), we'd have left Sprint months ago.
Maltose, the primary sugar in beer, has a glycemic index of 150. That is among the very highest concentration sugars you can ingest. It spikes your insulin levels and generally will cause your body to react in ways that make you store as much energy as possible to your gut.
To put it on the acceptable food pyramid is crazy, if you ask me. That doesn't mean I don't think people should drink beer, I like a few from time to time too. But reality is, it's not very good for you at all.
See the thing is, most music raises some kind of emotion. But I think if you look at the history of popular music, and particularly at the niche that rock & roll lived in for so long, you'll see that a significant number of the most popular artists are the ones that the parents are ranting about how "that's not music" and "that's ruining the morals of the children" etc. Perhaps the kids aren't consciously selecting the music "just" to be rebellious (I know I didn't), but it does turn out that way nonetheless. (I know my folks disapprove of a lot of the music I like, even though I didn't specifically select most of it for that reason).
Actually if you're willing to screw around with awk enough, ascii IS sortable by different columns & rows, but that's way more work than necessary, especially if they already put it in a spreadsheet.
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Does that justify all of our response? Does that mean we are justified in treating Saudi Arabia with kid gloves instead of more military? Probably not, but it's really really really stupid to say "why would anyone confuse the Taliban with Al Quaeda?"
I don't even think that just because Mike was trying to support the Taliban that he should be treated like a terrorist (I don't see any factual data to support the assertion that he was any kind of threat to US civilians, for example), but that wasn't the question the original poster asked.
Scuse me? Extradition treaty with a "government" that only two other governments in the world recognized? I'm thinking a formal request was made through reasonable diplomatic channels (probably through Pakistan). Beyond that, what do you expect us to have done when dealing with a government that was not recognized as legitimate?
I don't recall claiming that we were blameless. The fact remains that they should have handed him over in some way or form after it was clear what had been done by his organization.
I think you're the one in the warped world if you think all that's the same. Your logic is the logic that actually SUPPORTS the case the terrorists make, that you and I simply by being Americans are therefore responsible for all the stupid verging on evil things that the CIA and our military do in "covert ops" that harm innocent people.
As for his guilt, there is always the possibility that he took the most certain way out rather than gambling his innocence against 20 years in prison. Given the witch hunt atmosphere, he could rightly believe that even though innocent he couldn't prove it.
Oh, by the way, why didn't they abduct the other 6 people and hold them without charge for 5 weeks to forver too?
See, he didn't even make contact with the Taliban, and there's no indication that he was interested in killing civilians--he wanted to aid them in the field against the military. So explain again what threat he was posing in those 5 weeks?
Given that he's clean shaven in his wedding photo, I'm kinda doubting that he's the type of muslim who doesn't believe in shaving.
If you know someone just killed one of your neighbors' children, and you hide them in your house and refuse to put them out when the police come for them, why would you be surprised when the police come and storm your house? And who would say the police were not justified?
Because the Talaban sheltered Al Quaeda, provided them land to build training camps, and refused to give up their leadership even after the attacks of 9/11?
I think that their direct support of Bin Laden makes a clear case that they are culpable for terrorism. And I don't even agree with the war on Iraq or any of the dozens of stupid things the Feds have done in the name of defending us from terrorism.
All that said, there's nothing for it but to accept the plea as presented until such a time as Mike recants it. And if he'd been successful, and caught on the field of battle, he would deserve having a book thrown at him as much as John Walker Lindh. But having failed at that, I think it's outrageous that he was facing the same or greater sentence than Lindh himself (20 years).
For those that wants it, more power to ya. But the criticism was about the claim that the average Sun admin/employee wouldn't want to come home and do "even more work" on a Sun box at home. Most of us who don't run Solaris at home (well I do, but only for work at home purposes) are not avoiding it because it's "too much work" but because it's not optimal. If you *want* to tinker all the time, hey that's great, but I wouldn't expect the majority of Sun employees to want to do that tinkering. In fact, reality is, the majority of Sun employees aren't techies--Sun employs a bunch of sales people, managers, administrative workers of all sorts, none of whom are expected to be techies, most of whom aren't in reality techies, so why would they do techie things at home?
Sounds to me like this is just spin to try and push towards that nebulous partnership with Apple by giving them some good press. Oh, and did I mention I own more PCs than macs still?
With regard to running SPARCs at home, that's just silliness. You don't run much quicken, unreal tournament, etc. on Solaris. It has nothing to do with "how hard" it is to get applications working on Solaris, it's that I have no need to run Oracle or Pro/E or a major webservice at home.
As for Sun not knowing CPUs, if that's really what Intel thinks, they're stupider than their history makes them out to be. Sun "inherited" a bunch of talented CPU people from other companies that have joined the dustbin of history, and have had a few of our own along the way as well. How much longer than Intel have we had a working 64 bit architecture?
The same way as everyone else got mainframe experience in the old days: Entry Level Position.
Your days are unfortunately numbered. Adobe decided that they no longer need to support their friends with Macs, it seems likely that this attitude will continue with all their products, not just Premiere.
And I can imagine with a name like "EXIF-Renamer" it's on the tip of the tongue of every technically illiterate mac user in the world!
Did you even pay attention to what that "list" link pointed to? It's a list of DVD players that are compatable with iDVD written media. "The following table lists players that we have specifically tested for playability." Not a damn thing about compatable writers.
iDVD does not work with anything other than a Superdrive according to all the Apple literature I've been able to find. That violates a key constraint as requested.
I submitted one that said "slashdork" in the font and such, but it was rejected as "not having that POP". Now, how the one that just says "slashdot" DOES have "that POP" I don't get, but I will admit all the others are definitely better than mine. I suppose that doesn't answer your question, but at least I was going for truth in advertising.
So I'm lazy and don't want to translate the binary into hex or ascii. What does the Topoleski design say?
As opposed to a single directory full of P07310003.jpg files, as would be the case for the 80% of users who don't know how to automatically script downloading and renaming of the photos from the camera? Personally, while I wouldn't want to navigate the directory structure manually very often, the naming conventions are clear and for the target audience mostly transparent anyway.
Sprint PCS sucks. There's no other way around it. Here in Chicagoland, we regularly miss calls when the phone is on and shows a good signal, and of course you don't get voice mail notification until 30 minutes later if you're lucky. If I could convince my wife that she really could get a different phone with a different carrier that could still double as a pager (vibrate mode critical, she's frequently in classroom situations where a ringer would be a no-no), we'd have left Sprint months ago.
To put it on the acceptable food pyramid is crazy, if you ask me. That doesn't mean I don't think people should drink beer, I like a few from time to time too. But reality is, it's not very good for you at all.
See the thing is, most music raises some kind of emotion. But I think if you look at the history of popular music, and particularly at the niche that rock & roll lived in for so long, you'll see that a significant number of the most popular artists are the ones that the parents are ranting about how "that's not music" and "that's ruining the morals of the children" etc. Perhaps the kids aren't consciously selecting the music "just" to be rebellious (I know I didn't), but it does turn out that way nonetheless. (I know my folks disapprove of a lot of the music I like, even though I didn't specifically select most of it for that reason).
Actually if you're willing to screw around with awk enough, ascii IS sortable by different columns & rows, but that's way more work than necessary, especially if they already put it in a spreadsheet.
Actually it's more about picking the music that pisses off your parents most.