Windows machines require more admin trips to the server room than Unix's and up time doens't even remotely approach a Unix. To many "critical" patches to be applied none stop. Impossible to keep running.
Yah about 1000 people are going to blow their top at that statement. But I have 200+ physical Unix's with god knows how many VM's on them supported by 3 Unix admins and I have 22 Windows machines supported by 8 guys.
Not hard to do the dollar math there.
I have high hopes for these multi core systems in the future. And none of those hopes involve windows. Again simple dollar math.
Windows 7 is not stable. Well not where I am. Windows 7 is however better than Vista but my dog could have barfed up something better than Vista.
So far I find I have to reboot 7 more often than an XP machine. I'm also one of those that have put 7 on a laptop that formally had XP and the battery lasts roughly half as long. And what is with 7 and the missing drivers? The worst is when it says it can't find the NIC driver.
XP from a user perspective very stable. From a guy who has to build web sites that support ie on XP Nightmare.
At the moment the it just works OS that I use, has to be Ubuntu. Never fails to get all the drivers working these days. And I gotta say I never thought I'd see that happen.
( An aside. I kept on trying Vista. x32 x64 laptops desktops etc. Every single time something didn't work. )
( Another Aside. What is with the 7 interface. It feels completely half done. )
" So with "XP + ie = unsafe" you're lumping things together that in reality are many, vastly different things, and how (un)safe their use is depends on many factors. "
Ok I'll say it more plainly XP(SPX) + ieX == unsafe. Or in another way. XP-SP3 + ie8 == unsafe.
I simply look at two factors. 1. What are the most hacked OS browser combinations. 2. What OS browser platform requires more time and dollars to support by almost every web shop in existance.
Ask those questions results in XP and IE popping to the top.
Actually there are lots of devices on the market like the iPad. ( Problem is device definition. It's still not nailed down. So this argument is pointless. )
Apple is NOT bring something new to the market. Apple is literally creating the market. Apples marketing is the envy of every other tech house on the planet.
They single handed created the mobile music market. Yah there were a ton of weak attempts. Nerds around the planet will claim they were listening to mp3 5 years before apple came along. blah blah blah. All a sudden apple comes along and bam more music is sold online now than in shop fronts. Fantastic marketing.
The mobile phone. Yep lots of smart phones were out pre iPhone. They all sucked. Even though they were in some respects a superior phone. Apple comes out with a really really dumb device but polished the turd into a diamond and markets the hell out of the thing. All of a sudden the cool kids wanted it. Literally in 2 years they redefined the phone market. Through marketing.
So what are they bringing to the table this time? Well quite simply marketing. This turd of a device will sell. IT will sell in decent numbers. ( Not iPhone numbers ). And where there are sales the developers will follow.
Now Apple could of course completely stuff this up. Not likely. They have a stunning record in this area. Apple people are marketing genius's.
Now will I buy one? Nope. I won't buy it for a lot of the same reasons I never bought an iPhone. But I acknowledge that I am a minority consumer.
And who exactly flips their monitor more than twice EVER? You buy the monitor you go oh cool it can be viewed in both modes. You try it then you leave it in the mode of choice for basically every after that. Sure some wise A$$ is going to say the opposite. There is such a minority of people that ever move the monitor after plugging it in.
Yes XP just worked. It still works better than win 7 in my regard.
However XP + ie is basically an invitation to be hacked / malwared / infected / ripped off.
ie6 is still around basically because xp is. Any one who does any sort of web stuff hates ie6. ie6 is point blank holding back the web. Of course ie 7-8 also have a truck load of issues. But it's the combination of ie + xp that is the real killer.
Lets hope win7 takes hold with ie9 and relegates the other lesser M$ combinations to the bit bucket.
( Of course I say all this and I personally only use FF and Linux )
I have my own thoughts about Google. However I'm going to just consider this action around the purchase of youtube.
Google bought a company that was known to harbor copyright material illegally. Google then implements several safe guards against and gives content owners the ability to have content removed at the very least.
I'm sorry but this is not an evil act in any way. In this instance they are doing with dollars what police and lawyers could not do. Thought not a 100% fix it is an improvement.
This whole article is a very poor attempt to attack google. Yes google needs to be knocked down a notch or six. However this was a really really poor attempt. Almost embarrassing.
As a spelling offender I personally would like a spell check button.
I seriously can not spell. I honestly do try to spell correctly but I'm just plain bad at it. Always have been. It's a disability I actually battle with daily. Yes I call it a disability because it affects me everyday. I actively try and improve it but I'm losing ground over the years. I think it's because I have a logical mind and English is anything but logical. There are tricks and rules that are just duct tape over the illogical. I'm constantly saying "is that right".
I don't think a karma related button is going to help spelling or grammar. I have very high karma. So karma solutions are not going to assist me.
On the flip side. I do get very annoyed at people that attack me on a regular basis for simple mistakes of spelling. I mean some people just go off. Like I attacked there home and family kinda going off. All because I couldn't spell swimming pool or something else as equally inane.
I never said I wanted to be bent over. You jump to a lot of conclusions for such a basic statement.
To word it slightly differently. I said it's not viable to have a disk as a means of proof of purchase for a basic copy protection scheme.
Not putting in a drive is not a function of cheap manufacturers it a function of consumer choice. People choose not to have them and thus choose to by equipment with out them.
And at what point did I mention, imply, state or suggest that I am willing to blindly accept the crap that is being fed my way. ( I didn't )
If anyone is feeding rubbish into someone else's mouth it was you with the wild conclusions and speculation.
Before you rant in the future I suggest you think before you type.
As long as DRM makes the legit use of product more annoying than the illegitimate version this is a never ending battle.
The statement. "This DRM is unbreakable." Is always false. Who ever says it should be fired on the spot. For either being an idiot or misleading the shareholders..
When DRM puts additional requirements on the user it will always result in lost sales. People are fundamentally lazy. When it's easier to use the cracked/hacked/broken/mangeled/slightly buggy version you will loose money.
The legit version MUST have more actual value than the pirate version in order to generate real cash flow. For example: There are no real pirate versions of World of Warcraft because only proper versions are the ones that can give access to the real content. Yes it's a different kind of game. But it does illustrates the point very well. The legit versions of the Ubi games do not add value to the customer. As a matter of fact they do the opposite. Thus making the pirate versions more attractive than the real.
Where is the value add compensation? Something that would restore the balance. The legit version adds annoyance of always on net. But it adds the value of ?????.
Online game saves are not a value add. They are again an annoyance. Once those servers go down you don't have access to your save files. And they will go down on occasion. That now becomes and announce rather than a value add.
Being online enhances the game play how? I mean real enhancement. Not sales talk enhancement that a 12 year old kid doesn't care about.
For the N-th time. DRM only succeeds when it either adds value to the user or enables access to value add that exceeds the value loss of the DRM. ( I mean real value add. )
At the time of writing this.
I scanned all subjects. Not one actual single mention of the actual game name has been made in the subject lines. NONE. 72 replies and 1 article and not a single subject with the name of the game. A couple of acronyms but no names.
However mentions of DRM and variations on DRM are common.
This says something. Some of the responses are full on rants about DRM. Interesting piece of social observation I think. Almost like a mob mentality. Herds of people charging for a cause that isn't fully defined.
However it is true that this thread is more an extension of the original article. So one could say this is the giant "I TOLD YOU SO YOU GREEDY SONS OF B@#$@%". type response.
I still marvel at the fact the people seem to have forgot the subject of the problem.
( hmmmmm. , )
P.S. I personally think this moronic attempt at DRM was a finical Cluster F#$& and will have serious issues for Ubi. However this post is more about the thread than the subject.
I hear you.
I have honestly found ZERO need to purchase a Blu-ray player.
I've ranted about this before. But it really boils down to. The hacked / cracked / ripped what ever versions of media are far more user friendly than the legit ones. People are simply choosing to break the law because it's just easier. The product even works better than the original.
The media companies are simply shooting themselves in the foot. Seriously look at audio the DRM versions sucked, had issues, broke equipment etc. Then some exec has a light bulb moment and says screw it lets just sell mp3 versions. Guess what they are making even more money of the unrestricted versions.
Well at least I know which stocks to short at the end of the year. I also know which ones to buy.
I know others have said what I am going to say. But this is nuts.
With people moving more and more to various wireless net connections more and more people are going to have intermittent connection issues. People are simply going to download the hacked version in order to play the game. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that people will once again learn that the hacked version of the game is the most user friendly.
This DRM tactic is going to kill any potential profits.
MORONS.
I remember looking forward to SPORE. This game took forever to hit the market. Then what do they do. They put crippling DRM on it. So what happens. It becomes the most pirated game in history. I simply gave the game a miss all together.
DRM failed for the music industry. It's failing for Video. It is and will fail the game industry. DRM is only there to make greedy execs comfortable. It only results in yet more lost money and it hurts the customer.
"You're a moron spouting nonsense and everything you have is almost automatically mine unless you can elect others to appoint people that will take up guns and imprison those who don't agree with you."
What the?
You didn't even try a rebuttal. You attacked my grammar ( which is bad ) Then you just used the word "nonsense" as an opposing argument. Then you went on this weirdo trip elections, guns, prison and then daisies in the field love in moment.
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Do you find it disturbing that you mentioned war guns and prison when talking about climate? I do.
I'm going to walk away slowly from this conversation making no sudden movements or noises.
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I have issues with windows.
Windows machines require more admin trips to the server room than Unix's and up time doens't even remotely approach a Unix. To many "critical" patches to be applied none stop. Impossible to keep running.
Yah about 1000 people are going to blow their top at that statement. But I have 200+ physical Unix's with god knows how many VM's on them supported by 3 Unix admins and I have 22 Windows machines supported by 8 guys.
Not hard to do the dollar math there.
I have high hopes for these multi core systems in the future. And none of those hopes involve windows. Again simple dollar math.
Windows 7 is not stable. Well not where I am. Windows 7 is however better than Vista but my dog could have barfed up something better than Vista.
So far I find I have to reboot 7 more often than an XP machine. I'm also one of those that have put 7 on a laptop that formally had XP and the battery lasts roughly half as long. And what is with 7 and the missing drivers? The worst is when it says it can't find the NIC driver.
XP from a user perspective very stable. From a guy who has to build web sites that support ie on XP Nightmare.
At the moment the it just works OS that I use, has to be Ubuntu. Never fails to get all the drivers working these days. And I gotta say I never thought I'd see that happen.
( An aside. I kept on trying Vista. x32 x64 laptops desktops etc. Every single time something didn't work. )
( Another Aside. What is with the 7 interface. It feels completely half done. )
" So with "XP + ie = unsafe" you're lumping things together that in reality are many, vastly different things, and how (un)safe their use is depends on many factors. "
Ok I'll say it more plainly XP(SPX) + ieX == unsafe. Or in another way. XP-SP3 + ie8 == unsafe.
I simply look at two factors.
1. What are the most hacked OS browser combinations.
2. What OS browser platform requires more time and dollars to support by almost every web shop in existance.
Ask those questions results in XP and IE popping to the top.
It's time for XP to fade away.
Actually there are lots of devices on the market like the iPad. ( Problem is device definition. It's still not nailed down. So this argument is pointless. )
Apple is NOT bring something new to the market. Apple is literally creating the market. Apples marketing is the envy of every other tech house on the planet.
They single handed created the mobile music market. Yah there were a ton of weak attempts. Nerds around the planet will claim they were listening to mp3 5 years before apple came along. blah blah blah. All a sudden apple comes along and bam more music is sold online now than in shop fronts. Fantastic marketing.
The mobile phone. Yep lots of smart phones were out pre iPhone. They all sucked. Even though they were in some respects a superior phone. Apple comes out with a really really dumb device but polished the turd into a diamond and markets the hell out of the thing. All of a sudden the cool kids wanted it. Literally in 2 years they redefined the phone market. Through marketing.
So what are they bringing to the table this time? Well quite simply marketing. This turd of a device will sell. IT will sell in decent numbers. ( Not iPhone numbers ). And where there are sales the developers will follow.
Now Apple could of course completely stuff this up. Not likely. They have a stunning record in this area. Apple people are marketing genius's.
Now will I buy one? Nope. I won't buy it for a lot of the same reasons I never bought an iPhone. But I acknowledge that I am a minority consumer.
The comment makes you a smart A$$ the people that went to University are just smart.
A service pack for XP is the wrong thing to do.
I accept the point about the poor architecture I also add the mountains of other issues with XP.
The service pack is called Win7.
Ah good point. I retract mine.
And who exactly flips their monitor more than twice EVER? You buy the monitor you go oh cool it can be viewed in both modes. You try it then you leave it in the mode of choice for basically every after that. Sure some wise A$$ is going to say the opposite. There is such a minority of people that ever move the monitor after plugging it in.
So again how is this on topic?
Yes XP just worked. It still works better than win 7 in my regard.
However XP + ie is basically an invitation to be hacked / malwared / infected / ripped off.
ie6 is still around basically because xp is. Any one who does any sort of web stuff hates ie6. ie6 is point blank holding back the web. Of course ie 7-8 also have a truck load of issues. But it's the combination of ie + xp that is the real killer.
Lets hope win7 takes hold with ie9 and relegates the other lesser M$ combinations to the bit bucket.
( Of course I say all this and I personally only use FF and Linux )
I have my own thoughts about Google. However I'm going to just consider this action around the purchase of youtube.
Google bought a company that was known to harbor copyright material illegally. Google then implements several safe guards against and gives content owners the ability to have content removed at the very least.
I'm sorry but this is not an evil act in any way. In this instance they are doing with dollars what police and lawyers could not do. Thought not a 100% fix it is an improvement.
This whole article is a very poor attempt to attack google. Yes google needs to be knocked down a notch or six. However this was a really really poor attempt. Almost embarrassing.
As a spelling offender I personally would like a spell check button.
I seriously can not spell. I honestly do try to spell correctly but I'm just plain bad at it. Always have been. It's a disability I actually battle with daily. Yes I call it a disability because it affects me everyday. I actively try and improve it but I'm losing ground over the years. I think it's because I have a logical mind and English is anything but logical. There are tricks and rules that are just duct tape over the illogical. I'm constantly saying "is that right".
I don't think a karma related button is going to help spelling or grammar. I have very high karma. So karma solutions are not going to assist me.
On the flip side. I do get very annoyed at people that attack me on a regular basis for simple mistakes of spelling. I mean some people just go off. Like I attacked there home and family kinda going off. All because I couldn't spell swimming pool or something else as equally inane.
I never said I wanted to be bent over. You jump to a lot of conclusions for such a basic statement.
To word it slightly differently. I said it's not viable to have a disk as a means of proof of purchase for a basic copy protection scheme.
Not putting in a drive is not a function of cheap manufacturers it a function of consumer choice. People choose not to have them and thus choose to by equipment with out them.
And at what point did I mention, imply, state or suggest that I am willing to blindly accept the crap that is being fed my way. ( I didn't )
If anyone is feeding rubbish into someone else's mouth it was you with the wild conclusions and speculation.
Before you rant in the future I suggest you think before you type.
Seriously.
As long as DRM makes the legit use of product more annoying than the illegitimate version this is a never ending battle.
The statement. "This DRM is unbreakable." Is always false. Who ever says it should be fired on the spot. For either being an idiot or misleading the shareholders..
When DRM puts additional requirements on the user it will always result in lost sales. People are fundamentally lazy. When it's easier to use the cracked/hacked/broken/mangeled/slightly buggy version you will loose money.
The legit version MUST have more actual value than the pirate version in order to generate real cash flow. For example: There are no real pirate versions of World of Warcraft because only proper versions are the ones that can give access to the real content. Yes it's a different kind of game. But it does illustrates the point very well. The legit versions of the Ubi games do not add value to the customer. As a matter of fact they do the opposite. Thus making the pirate versions more attractive than the real.
Where is the value add compensation? Something that would restore the balance. The legit version adds annoyance of always on net. But it adds the value of ?????.
Online game saves are not a value add. They are again an annoyance. Once those servers go down you don't have access to your save files. And they will go down on occasion. That now becomes and announce rather than a value add.
Being online enhances the game play how? I mean real enhancement. Not sales talk enhancement that a 12 year old kid doesn't care about.
For the N-th time. DRM only succeeds when it either adds value to the user or enables access to value add that exceeds the value loss of the DRM. ( I mean real value add. )
With a lot of new machines not even coming with s CD/DVD/BluRay drive that system is no longer viable.
You start to care about 1 second after you realize the game died because you wireless connection in the house just dropped out.
You just got bent over and dicked.
Now you care.
At the time of writing this. I scanned all subjects. Not one actual single mention of the actual game name has been made in the subject lines. NONE. 72 replies and 1 article and not a single subject with the name of the game. A couple of acronyms but no names. However mentions of DRM and variations on DRM are common. This says something. Some of the responses are full on rants about DRM. Interesting piece of social observation I think. Almost like a mob mentality. Herds of people charging for a cause that isn't fully defined. However it is true that this thread is more an extension of the original article. So one could say this is the giant "I TOLD YOU SO YOU GREEDY SONS OF B@#$@%". type response. I still marvel at the fact the people seem to have forgot the subject of the problem. ( hmmmmm. , ) P.S. I personally think this moronic attempt at DRM was a finical Cluster F#$& and will have serious issues for Ubi. However this post is more about the thread than the subject.
Exactly like that.
I hear you. I have honestly found ZERO need to purchase a Blu-ray player. I've ranted about this before. But it really boils down to. The hacked / cracked / ripped what ever versions of media are far more user friendly than the legit ones. People are simply choosing to break the law because it's just easier. The product even works better than the original. The media companies are simply shooting themselves in the foot. Seriously look at audio the DRM versions sucked, had issues, broke equipment etc. Then some exec has a light bulb moment and says screw it lets just sell mp3 versions. Guess what they are making even more money of the unrestricted versions. Well at least I know which stocks to short at the end of the year. I also know which ones to buy.
I know others have said what I am going to say. But this is nuts.
With people moving more and more to various wireless net connections more and more people are going to have intermittent connection issues. People are simply going to download the hacked version in order to play the game. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that people will once again learn that the hacked version of the game is the most user friendly.
This DRM tactic is going to kill any potential profits.
MORONS.
I remember looking forward to SPORE. This game took forever to hit the market. Then what do they do. They put crippling DRM on it. So what happens. It becomes the most pirated game in history. I simply gave the game a miss all together.
DRM failed for the music industry. It's failing for Video. It is and will fail the game industry. DRM is only there to make greedy execs comfortable. It only results in yet more lost money and it hurts the customer.
Do you have a mullet?
Well here is a very straight forward answer to the question regarding volcanic vs human.
http://www.grist.org/article/volcanoes-emit-more-co2-than-humans/
This from a series of articles which I only just discovered. Should make for an interesting read. http://www.grist.org/article/series/skeptics/
It's called a light switch.
"You're a moron spouting nonsense and everything you have is almost automatically mine unless you can elect others to appoint people that will take up guns and imprison those who don't agree with you."
What the?
You didn't even try a rebuttal. You attacked my grammar ( which is bad ) Then you just used the word "nonsense" as an opposing argument. Then you went on this weirdo trip elections, guns, prison and then daisies in the field love in moment.
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Do you find it disturbing that you mentioned war guns and prison when talking about climate? I do.
I'm going to walk away slowly from this conversation making no sudden movements or noises.
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