Big Athlon Problems!!! Score:1, Offtopic by cave76 on Wednesday May 31, @01:41PM PST (#13) (User Info) http://members.tripod.com/cave76/
Yeah, I've had tons of problems with Athlons and the chipsets. I can't afford one!!! Anyyone, feel free to send one on over and I'll be glad to tell you if I find any incompadibilities.
Off Topic? This is clearly "Funny" I hope you get bitchslapped you slutty moderator, prostituting your points like that.
It actually wouldn't be that hard for Smilin' Willy to make the Win9x/Dos stuff obselete. Look what they are doing to the NT4 certified technicians. Bye-bye. Windows ME (Win 98 Third Edition) is promising to get rid of more Dos stuff, and include the "tweaked" networking from 2k. Once Bill merges Win ME with Windows NT 2000, all that 9x stuff will be gone, and users forced to upgrade. At this point he can change the API, and at the same time he can thwart the efforts of Samba, since the Win ME/NT 2000 protocols for filesharing are so obfuscated and murky. This could easily happen within 1-2 years.
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx PDC20262: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 30 PDC20262: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later PDC20262: (U)DMA Burst Bit ENABLED Primary PCI Mode Secondary PCI Mode. ide2: BM-DMA at 0xd400-0xd407, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio ide3: BM-DMA at 0xd408-0xd40f, BIOS settings: hdg:DMA, hdh:pio ide2 at 0xe800-0xe807,0xe402 on irq 15 ide3 at 0xe000-0xe007,0xd802 on irq 15
That would be the promise ultra66 controller, sharing an irq for both ide channels.
Please don't suggest f*cked hardware, thats what Windows NT users say every day when thier beloved OS BSOD's on them. Also, most Linux users are more hardware savvy than the Windows crowd.
Case in point: I have a freaky dual P120 with 64mb of ram in 6 simm slots. It has 4 pci and 4 isa (1 shared), it has no onboard ide or floppy controllers. PCI: power card SB PCI128 Promise Ultra66 16mb Riva TNT card
ISA: floppy/ide/serial/parallel all in one card 56k USR modem (not pnp or winmodem) Realtek 8019 combo nic (yuck)
Windows NT 4.0 Ntdetect locks up tighter than a virgin at bible camp. After I ripped every card except the video (which I had to replace with a 2 mb S3 card) it booted. As soon as either the Realtek nic OR the Ultra66 was plugged in, it locks at Ntdetect. Help forums full of NT Wizards recommended a different NIC and sending back the Ultra66 because obviously it is faulty (I was trying to use the official Promise drivers exactly following thier directions, NT told me the card was not in my system when installing it with the OS) Funny thing is that same setup is running Linux 2.2.15 just great! (Distribution Slackware 7 + updates)
"It must be the hardware." is a last resort Windiot explanation.
When I think of Microsoft innovating the GUI, I think of ActiveX infecting everything, IE5 as the file browser,internet browser, control panel, network browser, shell, and all around pain in the ass. Then I think of Microsoft BOB, nothing has changed. Nothing.
Microsoft is a humorous company, I'll give them that much credit.
Your prediction is probably right, but allow me to append to it.
There will be module slots for the pc that can take xbox games, but they will not be official. They will be pirated hacks that work very well, like the I Opener, or the glide wrapper for nvidia cards, and lawsuits will fly like cows in a tornado. Just like mp3. Just like DVD. Just like DivX (the warez codec).
Just imagine... DOS running WINE better than it runs Windows - packages being on shop shelves saying: 'Needs either WINE ME 2001 with 16Mb RAM or Microsoft Windows ME 2001 with 64Mb'. Bliss! I would love to see that too, unfortunately, Microsoft would rather launch nuclear missiles and destroy the North American continent before that happens.(Microsoft secretly is hoarding a military force, but I digress) Even if this were to happen, Microsoft would probably shrug off thier legacy crap and change the API so it(WINE, as well as DOS Win9x) no longer works. Microsoft is the stubborn spoiled child who if he(bill) can't get what he wants, then no one can get what they want.
the point I'm trying to make it is that no one is accountable for the Open Source screw ups. most of the positives of Open Source are merely conjecture or urban legend at this point. As more of these stories make the rounds, the more luster will be lost from Open Source. Open Source cannot work. It won't work. If you read the EULA on the pirated Microsoft software that you install, IT CLEARLY STATES THAT MICROSOFT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO ACCOUNTABILITY OR FAULT IN THE FAILURE OF SAID PRODUCT.
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Linux is not Red Hat. Does SuSe have the same overflows? What about Slackware? (yea right) Debian?
Not to mention that Linux is just a kernel.... This is something I would expect from one of those AC Microsoft employees that are paid to troll slashdot.
Buy N IIS/NT licenses at whatever they cost ($0) and pay your MCSE team to battle with it on a daily basis.
Install a freenix (at $0 per license) and pay a savvy admin who knows what s/he is doing to make it work.
Looks like the cost factor is on the side of the freenix. Customers like saving money, and not paying Microsoft Taxes(tm)
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As long as you are here and reading these posts, and have somewhat confirmed that you are employed by Microsoft, I'd like to know some more.
How many machines are dedicated to tracking Microsoft operating systems that are online?
When are you going to start prosecuting illegal installations of Office and Windows 2000? I have yet to see anyone actually legally own a license to run this software. (compared with hundreds of pirated copies I've seen)
Maybe you can help stamp out piracy of Microsoft software by offering Linux as a free download from your windowsupdate.microsoft.com site. (which doesn't work well with lynx I might add)
I would be happy to submit a banner to you with such a message emblazed on it.
I'm curious, did you buy Windows NT 2000? _every_ person I have spoken to either on irc or in person has _pirated_ Windows NT 2000 when they claim they "switched"
Not that I can blame them, that bloated motherfucker is nearly $400 a copy here.
Check out the extensive documentation for the utah-glx project. They explain how memory/dma works on the cards (except the tnt due to no specifications being released).
Calculus can be done with a calculator?? Even using Maple V, without any knowledge of calculus, you can't accomplish anything. There is more to calculus than single variable derivatives and integrals you know. (or do you?)
When you look at self-moderaters, like Signal 11, it shows that karma whoring moderators have more than one account, which is useful for, well, moderating up thier own posts. When you see a one line post that reads something like "Yeah, I think thats a good idea too." by Signal 11 that is set to Score 5 Insightful, it removes all doubt that self moderation is the rule, not the exception.
Imagine that...
(I browse at -1 nested, and show moderation scores just for my amusement at how biased the moderators are)
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I totally agree with this AC. If a PHB without a clue reads some anti OSS article on a NT Magazine site or something and orders crap like that, pull the plug. Having doubts about OSS is OK, call a meeting and talk about it, throwing out company wide edicts without a clue is just stupid, and almost worth quitting over.
>Actually, my MS box crashes more, because I sit >and tweak with my drivers for my SUPPORTED video >card. Sometimes it locks up, and that's hardware, >not OS.
HUH? You do realize that the drivers and operating system is what makes hardware devices run right? Hardware that locks up is dead hardware, for example: a hard disk drive whose motor is shot. Or you mean lock up as in "I have this network card sitting on my desk and its locked up (not connected to a computer)" You are a fucking idiot. Windows drivers and Windows architecture are 100% responsible for your lockups, not fruity hardware that runs just fine on other operating systems.
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Big Athlon Problems!!! Score:1, Offtopic
by cave76 on Wednesday May 31, @01:41PM PST (#13)
(User Info) http://members.tripod.com/cave76/
Yeah, I've had tons of problems with Athlons and the chipsets. I can't afford one!!! Anyyone, feel free to send one on over and I'll be glad to tell
you if I find any incompadibilities.
Off Topic? This is clearly "Funny"
I hope you get bitchslapped you slutty moderator, prostituting your points like that.
It actually wouldn't be that hard for Smilin' Willy to make the Win9x/Dos stuff obselete. Look what they are doing to the NT4 certified technicians. Bye-bye.
Windows ME (Win 98 Third Edition) is promising to get rid of more Dos stuff, and include the "tweaked" networking from 2k. Once Bill merges Win ME with Windows NT 2000, all that 9x stuff will be gone, and users forced to upgrade. At this point he can change the API, and at the same time he can thwart the efforts of Samba, since the Win ME/NT 2000 protocols for filesharing are so obfuscated and murky. This could easily happen within 1-2 years.
Ah, sorry. The only place I see DiVX implemented is in the piracy of DVD movies.
My bad.
I think I'll buy a Pepsi with that dollar instead.
Linux is not even using it? I'm fucking booting off it. You can read on how to set it up since the Linux IDE guy hasn't merged his patches into the main 2.2 tree yet here: http://www.linuxnewbie.or g/nhf/intel/hardware/udma66.html
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
PDC20262: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 30
PDC20262: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
PDC20262: (U)DMA Burst Bit ENABLED Primary PCI Mode Secondary PCI Mode.
ide2: BM-DMA at 0xd400-0xd407, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio
ide3: BM-DMA at 0xd408-0xd40f, BIOS settings: hdg:DMA, hdh:pio
ide2 at 0xe800-0xe807,0xe402 on irq 15
ide3 at 0xe000-0xe007,0xd802 on irq 15
That would be the promise ultra66 controller, sharing an irq for both ide channels.
Please don't suggest f*cked hardware, thats what Windows NT users say every day when thier beloved OS BSOD's on them. Also, most Linux users are more hardware savvy than the Windows crowd.
Case in point:
I have a freaky dual P120 with 64mb of ram in 6 simm slots. It has 4 pci and 4 isa (1 shared), it has no onboard ide or floppy controllers.
PCI:
power card
SB PCI128
Promise Ultra66
16mb Riva TNT card
ISA:
floppy/ide/serial/parallel all in one card
56k USR modem (not pnp or winmodem)
Realtek 8019 combo nic (yuck)
Windows NT 4.0 Ntdetect locks up tighter than a virgin at bible camp. After I ripped every card except the video (which I had to replace with a 2 mb S3 card) it booted. As soon as either the Realtek nic OR the Ultra66 was plugged in, it locks at Ntdetect.
Help forums full of NT Wizards recommended a different NIC and sending back the Ultra66 because obviously it is faulty (I was trying to use the official Promise drivers exactly following thier directions, NT told me the card was not in my system when installing it with the OS)
Funny thing is that same setup is running Linux 2.2.15 just great!
(Distribution Slackware 7 + updates)
"It must be the hardware." is a last resort Windiot explanation.
When I think of Microsoft innovating the GUI, I think of ActiveX infecting everything, IE5 as the file browser,internet browser, control panel, network browser, shell, and all around pain in the ass. Then I think of Microsoft BOB, nothing has changed. Nothing.
Microsoft is a humorous company, I'll give them that much credit.
Your prediction is probably right, but allow me to append to it.
There will be module slots for the pc that can take xbox games, but they will not be official. They will be pirated hacks that work very well, like the I Opener, or the glide wrapper for nvidia cards, and lawsuits will fly like cows in a tornado. Just like mp3. Just like DVD. Just like DivX (the warez codec).
This could get interesting.
Just imagine... DOS running WINE better than it runs Windows - packages being on shop shelves saying: 'Needs either WINE ME 2001 with 16Mb RAM or Microsoft Windows ME 2001 with 64Mb'. Bliss!
I would love to see that too, unfortunately, Microsoft would rather launch nuclear missiles and destroy the North American continent before that happens.(Microsoft secretly is hoarding a military force, but I digress) Even if this were to happen, Microsoft would probably shrug off thier legacy crap and change the API so it(WINE, as well as DOS Win9x) no longer works. Microsoft is the stubborn spoiled child who if he(bill) can't get what he wants, then no one can get what they want.
the point I'm trying to make it is that no one is accountable for the Open Source screw ups. most of the positives of Open Source are merely conjecture or urban legend at this point. As more of these stories make the rounds, the more luster will be lost from Open Source. Open Source cannot work. It won't work.
If you read the EULA on the pirated Microsoft software that you install, IT CLEARLY STATES THAT MICROSOFT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO ACCOUNTABILITY OR FAULT IN THE FAILURE OF SAID PRODUCT.
http://fox.mit.edu/skunk/soft/fsv/
Linux is not Red Hat. Does SuSe have the same overflows? What about Slackware? (yea right)
Debian?
Not to mention that Linux is just a kernel....
This is something I would expect from one of those AC Microsoft employees that are paid to troll slashdot.
I agree, not one single person has been able to install Linux. Its like the sword in the stone, a daunting task, if not impossible !
..they cost ($0) and pay..
should read
..they cost (greater than $0) and pay..
after eating my greater than symbol, it looks like slashdot plain text really isnt just plain text after all
How about these solutions:
Buy N IIS/NT licenses at whatever they cost ($0) and pay your MCSE team to battle with it on a daily basis.
Install a freenix (at $0 per license) and pay a savvy admin who knows what s/he is doing to make it work.
Looks like the cost factor is on the side of the freenix. Customers like saving money, and not paying Microsoft Taxes(tm)
As long as you are here and reading these posts, and have somewhat confirmed that you are employed by Microsoft, I'd like to know some more.
How many machines are dedicated to tracking Microsoft operating systems that are online?
When are you going to start prosecuting illegal installations of Office and Windows 2000? I have yet to see anyone actually legally own a license to run this software. (compared with hundreds of pirated copies I've seen)
Maybe you can help stamp out piracy of Microsoft software by offering Linux as a free download from your windowsupdate.microsoft.com site. (which doesn't work well with lynx I might add)
I would be happy to submit a banner to you with such a message emblazed on it.
I'm curious, did you buy Windows NT 2000? _every_ person I have spoken to either on irc or in person has _pirated_ Windows NT 2000 when they claim they "switched"
Not that I can blame them, that bloated motherfucker is nearly $400 a copy here.
They should have also tested the Linux 3D with XFree86 4.0 -- what were they thinking...
Check out the extensive documentation for the utah-glx project. They explain how memory/dma works on the cards (except the tnt due to no specifications being released).
You might want to check out the F451 review, oh and I think Microsoft is hiring.
Calculus can be done with a calculator??
Even using Maple V, without any knowledge of calculus, you can't accomplish anything. There is more to calculus than single variable derivatives and integrals you know. (or do you?)
You might want to use proper grammer and spelling if you want your .sig to hold up in court.
When you look at self-moderaters, like Signal 11, it shows that karma whoring moderators have more than one account, which is useful for, well, moderating up thier own posts.
...
When you see a one line post that reads something like "Yeah, I think thats a good idea too." by Signal 11 that is set to Score 5 Insightful, it removes all doubt that self moderation is the rule, not the exception.
Imagine that
(I browse at -1 nested, and show moderation scores just for my amusement at how biased the moderators are)
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Buy low, sell high.
Hope this helps.
PS: Attemped to quote Section 11 of the GPL verbatim, but was met with "Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted.
PLEASE DON'T USE SO MANY CAPS. USING CAPS IS LIKE YELLING!"
Slashdot supports censorship of the GPL in posts.
IRONY=1
I totally agree with this AC. If a PHB without a clue reads some anti OSS article on a NT Magazine site or something and orders crap like that, pull the plug. Having doubts about OSS is OK, call a meeting and talk about it, throwing out company wide edicts without a clue is just stupid, and almost worth quitting over.
>Actually, my MS box crashes more, because I sit >and tweak with my drivers for my SUPPORTED video >card. Sometimes it locks up, and that's hardware, >not OS.
HUH? You do realize that the drivers and operating system is what makes hardware devices run right? Hardware that locks up is dead hardware, for example: a hard disk drive whose motor is shot.
Or you mean lock up as in "I have this network card sitting on my desk and its locked up (not connected to a computer)"
You are a fucking idiot. Windows drivers and Windows architecture are 100% responsible for your lockups, not fruity hardware that runs just fine on other operating systems.