...it would become Facebooks property and that was not to my liking...
When I signed up in 2008, their stated position was otherwise. There's a clip from a 2009 interview (CNN I think) where Zuck specifically says that the data is owned by the user, will only be shared with the people the user selects, and will never be sold. I don't know when they made the "fuck users; get money" decision. I'd link to the clip, but I can't hunt for it at work.
Twitter's where I get raw, unfiltered messages from my president. That's the only reason I have it installed and the only reason I'm keeping it. I'm a big DJT critic, but I don't know why every American isn't following him on Twitter.
...cannot even spend 10 minutes to try a competing site.
Adoption rate is more important to social media than features. Google+ may be terrific, and I even signed up, but I know very little about it because the people I want to talk with are on FB. The egg predates the chicken, but they continue their cycle.
With FB, MS, Apple, etc. I can get ALL of that data, including your name.
If you'd like to see the data FB keeps on you: "Settings"->"Download a copy of your Facebook data". It'll provide you with a zip file including all the dirt. A few things that surprised me: * Complete contact list from my phone including personal info and partial call logs * List of all applications that are, or were, installed on my current or previous phones * Complete transcripts of every conversation I've had using Messenger
I don't know if you can call displaying movies being "in the movie business." Is Redbox more qualified than YouTube because they distribute movies? HBO & Netflix were in the business of showcasing video. Then they expanded into the business of creating content. I don't see a big difference between their movie-making debuts & YouTube's. I wasn't expecting much when Netflix said they were going to start creating content and they've had some real success.
Depends on the ad. A lot of ads are crafted to look like normal FB posts with only a small "Suggested App" or "Sponsored" identifier at the top to indicate that it's advertising.
So? You could say the same about HBO & Netflix and they've both had huge successes. I don't foresee YouTube bringing us the next Game of Thrones, but I have no problem with another player with heavy backing entering the arena.
I'm not sure "safe" is as simple as you're trying to make it. A person steps out in front of you. Is it safe to swerve if it means hitting a dog? A curb? Is it safe to swerve into the oncoming lane if there's no traffic there? Maybe you're defining "safe" as not hitting anything or violating any road regulations, but a slightly more liberal definition could save lives.
...you're a shill, gnick. Is that too trollish for you?
If I was having this discussion on FB, I wouldn't have seen this. None of my friends would have wasted my time with it unless the context made it funny. If somebody did post that, I could choose never to see anything from him again. Score +1 for FB. Thank you for the illustration, AC.
No, that's not obvious to me. FB != Twitter. DJT is the only reason I have Twitter installed and runs the only 2 accounts I follow. If DJT has a FB presence, it has zero impact on my feed. I don't know who the hell mark_reh is talking about or why that user can't be blocked.
...having too many people bleed out of their platform.
I've seen more than a couple of posts on FB today from people vowing to spend less time there. You know, posting about it instead of spending less time there. And probably monitoring their account for replies like, "Right on!" and "Me too!" They'll all be back. They never really left.
There's one very obvious FB user who shall not be named who neither acts like an adult nor avoids trolling.
It's not obvious to me. I must not follow that user (which is ALWAYS an option if there's somebody polluting the service.) Who are you talking about and why can't I avoid him/her?
Then there's all the "fake news" that people are dumb enough to read, believe, and pass on to others who are equally gullible.
The news I see posted comes primarily from CNN, CNN International, and BBC News. I've yet to see a story from those sources that I'd call "fake". Sometimes my friends (one in particular) will post inaccurate information, usually in the form of meme. I'll either ignore it or point him to a better source for the topic.
If you want to talk to others with similar interests, join a club and interact with people face to face.
Fuck that. I have to interact with people face-to-face all day at work. I don't want to continue that in my free time. YOU join a club; I'm enjoying my hermitage.
Youtube streaming is largely for convenience of getting to a single song easily; whether it would result in users paying for the tracks...
That's what I go there for. Heard Limp Biskit's 'Behind Blue Eyes' on the way home yesterday and had to hear The Who when I got home. If Youtube ceases to be a convenient way to listen to indiviual songs, I'l pony up the extra $5/mo to upgrade from Pandora Plus to Premium.
...but the bigger concern I have is whether we'll see a renaissance in a Limewire-like service, which helps no one.
If it helps no one, it won't come back. Limewire helped me a bunch back when I was a user.
Bearshare is great, but Limewire's what the pros use.
I'm at the $5/mo Pandora level. Unlimited skips and no ads. I might have to pony up the extra $5 for premium so I can pick the song like I do on Youtube.
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Apologies. I guess I should have said, "AC shouldn't have called all culture garbage."
...it would become Facebooks property and that was not to my liking...
When I signed up in 2008, their stated position was otherwise. There's a clip from a 2009 interview (CNN I think) where Zuck specifically says that the data is owned by the user, will only be shared with the people the user selects, and will never be sold. I don't know when they made the "fuck users; get money" decision. I'd link to the clip, but I can't hunt for it at work.
Now delete Twitter too.
Twitter's where I get raw, unfiltered messages from my president. That's the only reason I have it installed and the only reason I'm keeping it. I'm a big DJT critic, but I don't know why every American isn't following him on Twitter.
...cannot even spend 10 minutes to try a competing site.
Adoption rate is more important to social media than features. Google+ may be terrific, and I even signed up, but I know very little about it because the people I want to talk with are on FB. The egg predates the chicken, but they continue their cycle.
I agree. AC shouldn't have called Chinese culture garbage. But that doesn't mean I have a problem with it being parodied.
If you're blamed for killing a pedestrian, you may have your ass handed to you.
Some people say the US Left has no standards, but I disagree. They have TWO (at a minimum) of them!
The US Left is hardly alone in that.
Not when he can get the president of the most powerful country on earth to do it!
Careful. When Colbert called DJT Putin's cockholster, he had to have Jim Parsons on the next day and it still didn't stop the homophobe accusations.
With FB, MS, Apple, etc. I can get ALL of that data, including your name.
If you'd like to see the data FB keeps on you: "Settings"->"Download a copy of your Facebook data". It'll provide you with a zip file including all the dirt. A few things that surprised me:
* Complete contact list from my phone including personal info and partial call logs
* List of all applications that are, or were, installed on my current or previous phones
* Complete transcripts of every conversation I've had using Messenger
her kidnapped son is 50?
The second cast member listed on Vulture Club's IMDB page (Sam) is played by a 40-year-old. Maybe her son?
I don't know if you can call displaying movies being "in the movie business." Is Redbox more qualified than YouTube because they distribute movies? HBO & Netflix were in the business of showcasing video. Then they expanded into the business of creating content. I don't see a big difference between their movie-making debuts & YouTube's. I wasn't expecting much when Netflix said they were going to start creating content and they've had some real success.
...while they are probably more useful than other kinds of ads I still doubt they have a large impact.
I wouldn't expect most forms of advertising to have much of an impact, but companies are putting out a LOT of money betting that I'm wrong.
I'm not sure how people would even see ads...
Depends on the ad. A lot of ads are crafted to look like normal FB posts with only a small "Suggested App" or "Sponsored" identifier at the top to indicate that it's advertising.
...just another movie studio.
So? You could say the same about HBO & Netflix and they've both had huge successes. I don't foresee YouTube bringing us the next Game of Thrones, but I have no problem with another player with heavy backing entering the arena.
That's only a big name if it's Bull Durham II (because I doubt there's a non-zombie version of Thelma & Louise).
Susan Sarandon peaked with Rocky Horror Picture Show and it's been downhill since.
I'm not sure "safe" is as simple as you're trying to make it. A person steps out in front of you. Is it safe to swerve if it means hitting a dog? A curb? Is it safe to swerve into the oncoming lane if there's no traffic there? Maybe you're defining "safe" as not hitting anything or violating any road regulations, but a slightly more liberal definition could save lives.
A good rule of thumb is never to swerve to avoid an animal.
There's a world of difference between a squirrel and a moose. If there was room, I'd absolutely swerve to avoid a moose.
...there's just no credible alternative yet.
There's PornHub.
at least with the current President
Well, yeah. I meant in principle. I'd be just fine with DJT stepping in front of a bus if it wasn't for Pence.
It can swerve if safe...
That's a big "if" with a TBD definition of "safe".
...you're a shill, gnick. Is that too trollish for you?
If I was having this discussion on FB, I wouldn't have seen this. None of my friends would have wasted my time with it unless the context made it funny. If somebody did post that, I could choose never to see anything from him again. Score +1 for FB. Thank you for the illustration, AC.
No, that's not obvious to me. FB != Twitter. DJT is the only reason I have Twitter installed and runs the only 2 accounts I follow. If DJT has a FB presence, it has zero impact on my feed. I don't know who the hell mark_reh is talking about or why that user can't be blocked.
...having too many people bleed out of their platform.
I've seen more than a couple of posts on FB today from people vowing to spend less time there. You know, posting about it instead of spending less time there. And probably monitoring their account for replies like, "Right on!" and "Me too!" They'll all be back. They never really left.
There's one very obvious FB user who shall not be named who neither acts like an adult nor avoids trolling.
It's not obvious to me. I must not follow that user (which is ALWAYS an option if there's somebody polluting the service.) Who are you talking about and why can't I avoid him/her?
Then there's all the "fake news" that people are dumb enough to read, believe, and pass on to others who are equally gullible.
The news I see posted comes primarily from CNN, CNN International, and BBC News. I've yet to see a story from those sources that I'd call "fake". Sometimes my friends (one in particular) will post inaccurate information, usually in the form of meme. I'll either ignore it or point him to a better source for the topic.
If you want to talk to others with similar interests, join a club and interact with people face to face.
Fuck that. I have to interact with people face-to-face all day at work. I don't want to continue that in my free time. YOU join a club; I'm enjoying my hermitage.
Youtube streaming is largely for convenience of getting to a single song easily; whether it would result in users paying for the tracks...
That's what I go there for. Heard Limp Biskit's 'Behind Blue Eyes' on the way home yesterday and had to hear The Who when I got home. If Youtube ceases to be a convenient way to listen to indiviual songs, I'l pony up the extra $5/mo to upgrade from Pandora Plus to Premium.
...but the bigger concern I have is whether we'll see a renaissance in a Limewire-like service, which helps no one.
If it helps no one, it won't come back. Limewire helped me a bunch back when I was a user.
...use a different source for their music.
Bearshare is great, but Limewire's what the pros use.
I'm at the $5/mo Pandora level. Unlimited skips and no ads. I might have to pony up the extra $5 for premium so I can pick the song like I do on Youtube.