You've got to be kidding me. Did you read that post at all?
Management wanted it both ways - they wanted the union workers to ignore the rules so that they could get the job done faster, and they wanted to blame the union workers when something went wrong.
The union said "ok, fine. we'll just follow the rules then."
As it usually does when insanely restrictive safety rules are implemented and followed, work slowed to a crawl.
You still seem to be confusing capitalist economic theory with economic theory in general, and worse, you seem to be doing so intentionally.
If you want to say that a free market has never been tested because it's never really been tried, you should also grant that communism has never been tested, and is in itself an economic theory.
But you go on to make the assertion that a free market provides the best median standard of living - which cannot be proven true if it has never been tested, and considering the societies that came the closest, isn't likely to even be close to true.
The "corporatist" system that we have now is very much a likely outcome of any free market experiment, and if the controls on that system weren't in place would likely be an economic system composed entirely of monopolies, which are worse than government control of the economy as they act only in their own self interest.
Another problem is that the people you refer to as "lazy" and who would find themselves without the basics would find ways to get them - and when they start using guns to get them, the market stops being free. You can either hire police to keep the have-nots down, or accept that it is in your self interest to tax everyone to make sure they have the basics.
No, sorry. Those theories failed in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century. The only reason capitalism hasn't completely collapsed is the government promotion of the general welfare by redistribution of some wealth.
A truly free market can't work for the same reason pure communism can't work - human nature won't allow it.
-Nowhere in the constitution are the words "this document only applies to US citizens" -You don't have to say that the government of Afghanistan was a wonderful government to agree that the treatment of our prisoners is brutal and illegal. -A good many of the people in that camp WERE soldiers wearing uniforms.
You haven't actually tried running it yourself, have you?
It's not stupid to run Panther on a 300 MHz G3 with Rage Pro video. I've not done it yet, but I'm sure it's not really much worse on Rage IIc. It actually runs quite nicely on a 300MHz tangerine iBook with 160MB RAM. You're not going to be doing much video editing on that configuration without going nuts, but for web browsing, word processing, and doing the books, it's a very workable configuration. I just sold that machine, and the new owner is VERY happy running Panther on it.
And no, I don't run Windows 2003 server on a Gateway. I don't own a Gateway, and I the only Windows box I have runs XP on a 400MHz Celeron. The computer was free, and I only use it as a test platform when I have to.
I've got everything from a P4 1.7 to a P1 166 running Linux, though. And I've run Mac OS X on just about every machine that will run it, from a 7500 with a processor upgrade to a dual 2.0 G5. It handles the old hardware much better than Windows does.
The Beige G3s are working. However, some additional work is required to get the built-in video to work with Panther.
The Wallstreet Powerbooks
The Wallstreet Powerbooks are working, with some video-related issues in some configurations.
It's just a minor point, really, but Ryan seems to think that the built in video will be working on the pre-USB G3s in the future.
And yes, I take issue with Apple dropping support for these machines. Considering that a third party developer can take the open source Darwin drivers and hack the support back in, Apple should have had no trouble not removing it in the first place. They can say the machines are unsupported all they like, but there is NO valid excuse for going to extra effort to remove the ability for the OS to work. All it does is piss users off, and give the anti-Mac crowd some legit ammo - and nobody needs that.
I think you're confusing what a religion is, here. It doesn't necessarily involve forcing it upon others.
And any belief system that involves faith is a religion.
To get back on topic here, from what I'm seeing on slashdot, BSD is turning into something with far more religious-like zealotry than the GPL, and I don't really understand why.
The purpose for chosing a GPL release seems obvious to me - if I write code, and want to make it freely available for someone else to use, I can GPL it, and anyone is free to use it - the price they pay is that they must make the code they add to it freely available as well. While I won't necessarily gain money, I will gain code if someone wants to extend my code.
The purpose for choosing BSD seems less obvious to me. If I release something under BSD, I'm giving it away, someone is free to use it and extend it, but I get nothing at all from that. The theory I suppose is that they will see that I've been nice and they will also be nice - but they are under no obligation to do so, and the reality has shown that the large corporations that use BSD code frequently don't release code in return.
I just can't quite see the motivation in giving large companies a free gift.
You know, BSD strikes me as far more of a religion than Linux these days.
Which is kind of sad. I'm typing this on a Mac, which is siting right beside a Fedora box.
As far as I'm concerned, if your goal is ease of use and install on a *nix distribution, Mac OS X has it, and some of the Linux distros are getting there.
FreeBSD proper, the last time I touched it, was not even close.
Well, I just spent the last 4 hours trying to get it to work.
I managed to figure out that it'll run 6.0.8, but not 7 - and every web server I've managed to find requires at least system 7.
I could have made it do ftp, though.
(and no, I didn't do it with a real 512e. I cheated and used vMac on Mac OS X. But if I take the 512e logic board off my wall and throw it into a plus case I could.)
Yes, it likely would have helped the US free slaves faster. In fact, a simple embargo of US farm products from the South would have very likely removed the economic incentive for slavery, and as it was primarily an economic institution, it would no longer have made sense for it to exist.
As to the question of economic strength today, I don't know. But the economy would likely not have been one of slavery for nearly as long as it was.
But Apple only stopped making the 15" iMac last year...
And the original Macintosh never had an external power supply either. It used so little power that it was actually energy star compliant - without any sleep function at all.
And clearly you don't know the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony either. You are entitled to a jury trial in any case where you can spend jail time, and where I am a misdemeanor can get you up to 11 months, 29 days.
Speeding is not an offence that can get you jail time in most cases, but just because it can only get you a fine doesn't mean it's not a criminal charge. A parking ticket isn't a criminal charge, speeding is. And it's a frivolous charge, as it's generally acknoleged that it is only used as a revenue generating measure, not as a means of stopping any sort of offense. The government has legitimate means of raising revenue, it's called a tax.
As for malicious prosecution, just do a google search. Since you asked for one case, here is an example from a US district court of a summary judgement that was granted for malicious prosecution and false arrest. (PDF format)
A prosecutor has a responsibility to look for the person who is actually guilty of a crime, and to not prosecute someone who is innocent. Anything else is malicious prosecution, and should result in a prosecutor being fired. Unfortunately, that is almost never the result.
I believe that Norway will likely grant the award, as I understand it is standard procedure to do so. If you have expertise in Norwegian law, please feel free to argue this.
There are tons of frivolous criminal cases (literally, when you consider the weight of the paper involved). After all, speeding is technically a criminal offence in most states (though it generally carries no jail time) and the refusal to take your anti-bush sign to a restricted speech zone is charged as a criminal offence.
There are even more downright malicious criminal cases, brought because someone has power and feels like abusing it.
While your friend may be one of the good guys, if he is, he's atypical of most of what you see from prosecutors, who generally see winning cases as a way to advance in rank, and don't care about actual innocence.
I think Norway has the right idea on this one, as it seems that their system provides a great deal of protection for the unjustly accused (as DVD Jon was). They just need to fix the double jeopardy problem - but then again, so do we. It's now far too easy for a prosecutor to take an aquital and come up with a new crime to charge someone with, or for the feds to decide to step in and turn an aquital into a decision to charge someone with a federal crime.
Well, it's not a terribly impressive project - I've seen better (including a Mac Plus that did run Mac OS X - with an LCD screen) but the Plus is a reasonable choice for the project. After all, there was never a shortage of them, as it was produced for over 4 years.
They will likely not be collectors items for the next 50 - 75 years. The 128 is pretty rare these days, and I've got a 512 logic board in running condition hanging on my wall, but the plus is just not that valuable.
I've got several myself, and the Apple dealer I work for has several more - including one running in the showroom, right beside the PowerBook 100.
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No, Apple actually invented FireWire.
The IEEE1394 standard is just another name for Apple's FireWire technology.
You've got to be kidding me. Did you read that post at all?
Management wanted it both ways - they wanted the union workers to ignore the rules so that they could get the job done faster, and they wanted to blame the union workers when something went wrong.
The union said "ok, fine. we'll just follow the rules then."
As it usually does when insanely restrictive safety rules are implemented and followed, work slowed to a crawl.
You still seem to be confusing capitalist economic theory with economic theory in general, and worse, you seem to be doing so intentionally.
If you want to say that a free market has never been tested because it's never really been tried, you should also grant that communism has never been tested, and is in itself an economic theory.
But you go on to make the assertion that a free market provides the best median standard of living - which cannot be proven true if it has never been tested, and considering the societies that came the closest, isn't likely to even be close to true.
The "corporatist" system that we have now is very much a likely outcome of any free market experiment, and if the controls on that system weren't in place would likely be an economic system composed entirely of monopolies, which are worse than government control of the economy as they act only in their own self interest.
Another problem is that the people you refer to as "lazy" and who would find themselves without the basics would find ways to get them - and when they start using guns to get them, the market stops being free. You can either hire police to keep the have-nots down, or accept that it is in your self interest to tax everyone to make sure they have the basics.
No, sorry. Those theories failed in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century. The only reason capitalism hasn't completely collapsed is the government promotion of the general welfare by redistribution of some wealth.
A truly free market can't work for the same reason pure communism can't work - human nature won't allow it.
-Nowhere in the constitution are the words "this document only applies to US citizens"
-You don't have to say that the government of Afghanistan was a wonderful government to agree that the treatment of our prisoners is brutal and illegal.
-A good many of the people in that camp WERE soldiers wearing uniforms.
You know, the next part of that sentence in the constitution after "provide for the common defence" is "promote the general welfare".
I'd say that's a pretty strong constitutional mandate for social programs.
It's not the copyright at that point, it's the trade secret laws that cause you a problem.
Well, you should probably give it some time first.
If you actually use the code, it would be a copyright infringement, of course, so you can't just do that.
And right now, it still has trade secret status. But in a year or two, that status should disappear as it's no longer secret.
But, right now, you'd be tainted by having seen trade secrets.
Are you sure about that? I didn't think they existed before 97.
You haven't actually tried running it yourself, have you?
It's not stupid to run Panther on a 300 MHz G3 with Rage Pro video. I've not done it yet, but I'm sure it's not really much worse on Rage IIc. It actually runs quite nicely on a 300MHz tangerine iBook with 160MB RAM. You're not going to be doing much video editing on that configuration without going nuts, but for web browsing, word processing, and doing the books, it's a very workable configuration. I just sold that machine, and the new owner is VERY happy running Panther on it.
And no, I don't run Windows 2003 server on a Gateway. I don't own a Gateway, and I the only Windows box I have runs XP on a 400MHz Celeron. The computer was free, and I only use it as a test platform when I have to.
I've got everything from a P4 1.7 to a P1 166 running Linux, though. And I've run Mac OS X on just about every machine that will run it, from a 7500 with a processor upgrade to a dual 2.0 G5. It handles the old hardware much better than Windows does.
If a VCR breaks, it's component failure.
If a VCR explodes because the manufacturer put a bomb in, it's terrorism.
Has DirecTV caused their products to explode?
So you admit they were purchased, then.
From the XPostFacto 3.0a11 page:
The Beige G3s
The Beige G3s are working. However, some additional work is required to get the built-in video to work with Panther.
The Wallstreet Powerbooks
The Wallstreet Powerbooks are working, with some video-related issues in some configurations.
It's just a minor point, really, but Ryan seems to think that the built in video will be working on the pre-USB G3s in the future.
And yes, I take issue with Apple dropping support for these machines. Considering that a third party developer can take the open source Darwin drivers and hack the support back in, Apple should have had no trouble not removing it in the first place. They can say the machines are unsupported all they like, but there is NO valid excuse for going to extra effort to remove the ability for the OS to work. All it does is piss users off, and give the anti-Mac crowd some legit ammo - and nobody needs that.
I think you're confusing what a religion is, here. It doesn't necessarily involve forcing it upon others.
And any belief system that involves faith is a religion.
To get back on topic here, from what I'm seeing on slashdot, BSD is turning into something with far more religious-like zealotry than the GPL, and I don't really understand why.
The purpose for chosing a GPL release seems obvious to me - if I write code, and want to make it freely available for someone else to use, I can GPL it, and anyone is free to use it - the price they pay is that they must make the code they add to it freely available as well. While I won't necessarily gain money, I will gain code if someone wants to extend my code.
The purpose for choosing BSD seems less obvious to me. If I release something under BSD, I'm giving it away, someone is free to use it and extend it, but I get nothing at all from that. The theory I suppose is that they will see that I've been nice and they will also be nice - but they are under no obligation to do so, and the reality has shown that the large corporations that use BSD code frequently don't release code in return.
I just can't quite see the motivation in giving large companies a free gift.
Which makes you guilty of theft, and Sony guilty of terrorism.
And the fact is, you're wrong.
The Soviets bought those chips from Canada. They didn't steal them.
You know, BSD strikes me as far more of a religion than Linux these days.
Which is kind of sad. I'm typing this on a Mac, which is siting right beside a Fedora box.
As far as I'm concerned, if your goal is ease of use and install on a *nix distribution, Mac OS X has it, and some of the Linux distros are getting there.
FreeBSD proper, the last time I touched it, was not even close.
Any chance you work for Microsoft?
I mean, seriously, unless all those people start running Linux as root all the time, it's just never going to be the same, so please drop the FUD.
Well, I just spent the last 4 hours trying to get it to work.
I managed to figure out that it'll run 6.0.8, but not 7 - and every web server I've managed to find requires at least system 7.
I could have made it do ftp, though.
(and no, I didn't do it with a real 512e. I cheated and used vMac on Mac OS X. But if I take the 512e logic board off my wall and throw it into a plus case I could.)
If you have better luck than I did, let me know.
Yes, it likely would have helped the US free slaves faster. In fact, a simple embargo of US farm products from the South would have very likely removed the economic incentive for slavery, and as it was primarily an economic institution, it would no longer have made sense for it to exist.
As to the question of economic strength today, I don't know. But the economy would likely not have been one of slavery for nearly as long as it was.
But Apple only stopped making the 15" iMac last year...
And the original Macintosh never had an external power supply either. It used so little power that it was actually energy star compliant - without any sleep function at all.
And clearly you don't know the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony either. You are entitled to a jury trial in any case where you can spend jail time, and where I am a misdemeanor can get you up to 11 months, 29 days.
Speeding is not an offence that can get you jail time in most cases, but just because it can only get you a fine doesn't mean it's not a criminal charge. A parking ticket isn't a criminal charge, speeding is. And it's a frivolous charge, as it's generally acknoleged that it is only used as a revenue generating measure, not as a means of stopping any sort of offense. The government has legitimate means of raising revenue, it's called a tax.
As for malicious prosecution, just do a google search. Since you asked for one case, here is an example from a US district court of a summary judgement that was granted for malicious prosecution and false arrest. (PDF format)
A prosecutor has a responsibility to look for the person who is actually guilty of a crime, and to not prosecute someone who is innocent. Anything else is malicious prosecution, and should result in a prosecutor being fired. Unfortunately, that is almost never the result.
I believe that Norway will likely grant the award, as I understand it is standard procedure to do so. If you have expertise in Norwegian law, please feel free to argue this.
And I repeat, your post was bullshit.
You know, I have to call "bullshit" on this one.
There are tons of frivolous criminal cases (literally, when you consider the weight of the paper involved). After all, speeding is technically a criminal offence in most states (though it generally carries no jail time) and the refusal to take your anti-bush sign to a restricted speech zone is charged as a criminal offence.
There are even more downright malicious criminal cases, brought because someone has power and feels like abusing it.
While your friend may be one of the good guys, if he is, he's atypical of most of what you see from prosecutors, who generally see winning cases as a way to advance in rank, and don't care about actual innocence.
I think Norway has the right idea on this one, as it seems that their system provides a great deal of protection for the unjustly accused (as DVD Jon was). They just need to fix the double jeopardy problem - but then again, so do we. It's now far too easy for a prosecutor to take an aquital and come up with a new crime to charge someone with, or for the feds to decide to step in and turn an aquital into a decision to charge someone with a federal crime.
I've never had a cell phone with a calculator, and I've had a cell phone since the mid 80s.
Of course, I'm still using my first digital cell phone, and I've had it for several years now.
Well, it's not a terribly impressive project - I've seen better (including a Mac Plus that did run Mac OS X - with an LCD screen) but the Plus is a reasonable choice for the project. After all, there was never a shortage of them, as it was produced for over 4 years.
They will likely not be collectors items for the next 50 - 75 years. The 128 is pretty rare these days, and I've got a 512 logic board in running condition hanging on my wall, but the plus is just not that valuable.
I've got several myself, and the Apple dealer I work for has several more - including one running in the showroom, right beside the PowerBook 100.