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Macintosh 2004 Case Mod

NOTD665 writes "'On January 24 [1984], Apple Computer will introduce Macintosh. And you'll see why 1984 won't be like "1984."' This was the pronouncement at the end of Apple's commercial, which TV Guide magazine would later deem the greatest commercial of all time. Aired during the 1983 Super Bowl, the now famous Apple Macintosh '1984' commercial informed the world that the age of modern, home PCs was coming. Get ready. Here comes the Mac... Finally, one fateful day in December, the Mac's slumber was awoken yet again. It was time for the Mac to be reborn." Too bad it doesn't run Mac OS X.

378 comments

  1. Sacrilege! by mr.henry · · Score: 5, Funny
    -AMD Athlon XP 2500+ Barton CPU
    -MSI KM400 Socket A mATX Motherboard (Model KM4M-L)
    -Kingston HyperX PC2700 512MB (2x256)
    -Sapphire Radeon 9600 256MB
    -Western Digital WD800JB 80GB Hard Drive
    -Lite-On LDW-411S 4x DVD-RW Drive
    -Sparkle 350W FSP350-60BT Powersupply
    -Thermalright AX-7 Heatsink with AOC Aluminum 80mm Fan
    -3 (1 red, 1 blue, 1 green) LazerLED's

    This guy defiled the Mac case with PC components!

    1. Re:Sacrilege! by bc90021 · · Score: 5, Funny

      And I suppose you think that running Unix on a Mac is sacrilege too? ;)

    2. Re:Sacrilege! by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 0

      I do.

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    3. Re:Sacrilege! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Apple has been putting pc components into Mac cases for years.

    4. Re:Sacrilege! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
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    5. Re:Sacrilege! by 0racle · · Score: 1

      What if it was A/UX

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    6. Re:Sacrilege! by adrianbaugh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not only that, but the finished project looks butt-ugly too.

      It would have been far cooler if he'd fitted a TFT screen instead of his window. Come to think of it, it would have been better all round if he'd got a modern mac, taken it apart and fitted the gubbins inside the old case.

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    7. Re:Sacrilege! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doing this shit on that Museum Mac makes me think that moddind has gone too far!! :mad:

    8. Re:Sacrilege! by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

      "This guy defiled the Mac case with PC components!"

      On the plus side, it'll be the first time a Mac ever saw GTA!

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    9. Re:Sacrilege! by Frymaster · · Score: 1
      And I suppose you think that running Unix on a Mac is sacrilege too?

      no way! unix on the mac is the ultimate in fanatical os-isms: unix on risc.

    10. Re:Sacrilege! by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "On the plus side, it'll be the first time a Mac ever saw GTA!"

      Flamebait? *sigh* I really wish light-hearted Mac humor wouldn't be taken so seriously. At least you guys don't get never-ending rehashes of BSOD jokes.

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    11. Re:Sacrilege! by DinosaurNeal · · Score: 2, Informative

      He could have at least used a better PSU.

      http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/product_i nf o.php?products_id=957&osCsid=e019391d784c2247745f4 de7d3d73923

      He used rounded cables but his PSU had power connector clutter like no other.

    12. Re:Sacrilege! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Link doesn't work, the PSU is perfectly fine.

    13. Re:Sacrilege! by DinosaurNeal · · Score: 1

      Here is a working link http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?c Path=22&osCsid=c755fe8bd3e6a4dd0010ebe4915ddf5 3 and just in case the link goes down http://www.performance-pcs.com/ Sleeves are the only way to go, especially with windows.

    14. Re:Sacrilege! by ncc74656 · · Score: 1
      What if it was A/UX

      There's a more obvious choice for UN*X on a Mac that you're missing...

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    15. Re:Sacrilege! by Cramer · · Score: 1

      Wow. There are three letters I've not heard in a long time. Does anyone even still have a copy of A/UX anymore? (on still readable floppies.)

    16. Re:Sacrilege! by lindsayt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Right on. When I saw the headline on slashdot, I expected somebody had disassembled perhaps an iMac G4 (little round motherboard) and packed it inside the old case, with a small tft screen. Now *that* would be kewl. This, this is just butt-ugly and pointless:

      (1) It uses the all-in-one computer as just a simple case;

      (2) It cuts big ugly holes not just in the back (where it's acceptable) but in the front as well, where it destroys the look;

      and

      (3) It's *NOT A MAC*!!!!!

      I mean, okay, I might forgive them if they at least had something like Executor running a MacOS in full-screen mode within their PC hardware, but even that would be pretty big stretch.

      Really lame, I wish I hadn't wasted my time reading about it. This is the moral equivalent of taking a 1984 Honda Accord and packing the engine and transmission from a 2004 Kia Rio into it - pointless in all aspects.

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    17. Re:Sacrilege! by cei · · Score: 1

      No, but I'm looking for the command-line Tic-Tac-Toe game that came in the distro with a Workgroup Server 95 if anyone has any leads...

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    18. Re:Sacrilege! by Larry+David · · Score: 1

      You're right. You just can't make jokes about how it takes half a second more to do basic operations in OS X, but hey.. at least it doesn't BSOD.

    19. Re:Sacrilege! by MoronGames · · Score: 1

      This guy defiled the Mac case with PC components!

      And not only that, but he used sub par parts! A KT400 motherboard instead of an nForce2? A 256MB Non-pro video card instead of the much faster 128MB Pro? An aluminum heatsink?!

      Yeah, what was he thinking?

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    20. Re:Sacrilege! by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It would have been far cooler if he'd fitted a TFT screen instead of his window.

      That's what I expected to see when I began my downward scroll towards the final product.

      I don't really think this case mod deserves a /. headline, personally. It doesn't look very good, but that is my opinion.

      My system looks almost like a G4 with the aluminum case and G4 keyboard. Perhaps I could take some pictures, talk about how I spent 4 hours making a bezel and get slashdotted..

      Speaking of which.. 4 hours to make a custom bezel?! My god man. I think a paraplegic could do it faster. I did a plastic one in less than an hour with a dremel and plastic cement. Looked perfect. I used a dremel to cut an aluminum one for the last game system in about 45 minutes. Maybe he was high? No, I was high when I did both of mine. Hmm

    21. Re:Sacrilege! by Stonent1 · · Score: 1

      Floppies are so last millenium. I downloaded an "iso" of the whole thing.

    22. Re:Sacrilege! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody makes a unix for mac, do they?

    23. Re:Sacrilege! by Duty · · Score: 0

      Correct, because everyone knows Debian and Gentoo are nobody.

    24. Re:Sacrilege! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      1. Apple doesn't fscking sell Mac components.
      2. The machine is now over two hundred times faster and has two thousand times as much memory. I wish someone would "defile" my box too.
    25. Re:Sacrilege! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Unix is both a trademark and an operating system design. "___ is a Unix" doesn't become less true just because some company bought the right to harass vendors who say it.

    26. Re:Sacrilege! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      "___ is a Unix" doesn't become less true just because some company bought the right to harass vendors who say it.

      Unfortunately this is not the case.

      You wouldn't expect to take your Ford and say "This is a Chevy" - you'd have to say "this is an automobile".

      The equivalent here is "Unix-like OS", or "*nix" for short.

    27. Re:Sacrilege! by Haeleth · · Score: 1

      At least you guys don't get never-ending rehashes of BSOD jokes.

      No - they get never-ending rehashes of BSD jokes instead.

    28. Re:Sacrilege! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll defile you're "box" all night long baby!

    29. Re:Sacrilege! by BiggyP · · Score: 1

      yes, that surprised me a little, i would have expected him to at least get a PPC board and integrated an LCD panel display in the area they used for a window, not overly impressed personally.

      but then, i guess that would make things a little on the pricey side, but that's in keeping with the apple scheme of things too.

    30. Re:Sacrilege! by 32bitwonder · · Score: 1

      ...and being a nobody, everyone knows that Debian will run on virtually anything too. Don't believe me? Check my site! www.32bitwonder.org

    31. Re:Sacrilege! by LookSharp · · Score: 1

      It would have been far cooler if he'd fitted a TFT screen instead of his window.

      And a right-nice little 9" jobbie it would have been too. Why, you could almost read a 640x480 display at two feet away!

    32. Re:Sacrilege! by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Hmm, mATX?

      As far as I can tell, Mac G3 and G4 Yikes/Sawtooth ARE mATX, except for the power supply connector, which has -5V and GND swapped, and the front panel connector (which pushes 24V for the FireWire ports, and has lights). Why not just use an old Mac mobo?

      Myself, if I had unlimited funds for the mod, I'd have bought an AmigaONE Lite (or whatever it's called now), hacked the BIOS to boot Mac OS X (it's a G3 or G4, after all), and thrown that in. Mini-ITX goodness, and Mac OS X to boot!

    33. Re:Sacrilege! by HolyCow001 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Actually it would of been better if he hollowed out the case, took a big dump in it and closed it back up.

    34. Re:Sacrilege! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you think Apple would do if I made a computer and called a macintosh? Macintosh is a trademark name and a type of apple. I shouldn't be able to use the name because some company bought the right to harrass others that use it?

    35. Re:Sacrilege! by pi+radians · · Score: 1

      Not true, my old G3 used to play GTA all the time through VirtualPC.

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    36. Re:Sacrilege! by Eil · · Score: 2, Interesting


      For those wondering how well this modder is taking the verbal slashdot beatings, take a look.

      Conclusion: not well. Not well at all.

      And to the parent: excellent use of the word "gubbins."

    37. Re:Sacrilege! by iamhassi · · Score: 1
      "And a right-nice little 9" jobbie it would have been too. Why, you could almost read a 640x480 display at two feet away!"

      Really? Like 2 feet as in he's sitting in front of his PC? Oh, and it wasn't too long ago when laptops had 9-10" LCDs and people would read them all day long at 640x480 and 800x600.

      I agree with the original poster: all the guy did was use a old Mac PC as a case for his PC. I have no clue why he even bothered with the Mac logo on his window, it's like putting a Camaro Z28 emblem on your Civic.

      I'm not impressed and don't think this should have even been on /. There's far more impressive conversions you can do with a old Mac case IMHO.

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    38. Re:Sacrilege! by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 1

      No -- because in order to run Unix on a Mac, it would merely mean having some sort of emulator going vaguely like the stuff Tenon had for a while there.

      OTOH, calling Unix a Mac is indeed sacrilege.

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    39. Re:Sacrilege! by LookSharp · · Score: 0, Troll

      That's a bit of revisionist history... The first "real" laptops (386 and up) that I saw with 640x480 had 10.3 inch screens... then you went up to 12 inch screens for 800x600. Any modern PC is pretty much useless in anything less than 1024x768; except special-use PCs like my PVR/MAME box, which drives my TV at 640x480. It's ugly, but it works well enough. Yes, they make 6-9 inch 640x480 LCDs, but you have to get close, which was the point of my post.

      And I'm sorry that putting a PC in his old Mac case is considered "sacrilege" to all you cult worshippers still inside the Reality Distortion Field. "If it ain't a Mac, it's clearly crap!" That's the rallying cry, isn't it? Guess I shouldn't show you this!

    40. Re:Sacrilege! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you built a computer that runs MacOS natively, it is in fact a Macintosh, regardless of Apple's legal power to prevent you from saying so.

    41. Re:Sacrilege! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Ford" and "Chevy" have no connotative meaning--each denotes a wide variety of products that are nearly indistinguishable from competitors' products.

      "Unix" is well known to connote a specific operating system design and interface. If Microsoft were to buy the Open Group and declare that any OS must license the NT source and expose the Win32 API to be a Unix, legally we'd all have to pretend that's what "Unix" means but nobody would actually believe this.

    42. Re:Sacrilege! by lindsayt · · Score: 1

      You're not kidding. His lame project has gotten some pretty serious beating, much of it overly critical, but man... he's going to die very young if he can't learn to take criticism...

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    43. Re:Sacrilege! by lindsayt · · Score: 1

      Really?

      My 486 75MHz laptop had a 9.1" dual-scan passive matrix 640x480 display with 16-bit color and I bought it new in December 1994. The screen was considered "great" at that time as most of the laptops I was looking at had 9.1" straight passive screens with 8-bit color. Many still had passive greyscale screens in 1994 for obvious reasons - if you only have 512 KB of video RAM (standard on low-end, ie sub-$4000 laptops) and are limited to 8-bit pixel depth, you can get a lot more shade resolution with greyscale.

      I don't know - either you always worked for wealthy companies that could buy the $6000 laptops, or your memory only goes back to the pentium-era laptops despite your 386 claim. I never saw a 486 laptop for under $5000 that had a resolution higher than 640x480 or was larger than 10 inches.

      And on the resolution / quality issue, when my laptop was sitting on my lap (giving me nut cancer I'm sure, as it ran on a straight 75MHz CPU that was not thermally shielded and sat directly above my sack) and I was using it, it was perfectly readable. Would it be good now that we're spoiled with modern displays? Hell no. But would a modern TFT color-calibrated 32-bit version of the same screen, at the same size and resolution, be fine? Sure it would.

      Remember that what resolution is acceptable depends entirely upon (1) your OS/desktop combination; and (2) what you're doing with it. Most video games, in full-screen mode, scale to whatever resolution you're at so the only factor is the number of inches, not the resolution. And remember that a 640x480 display will look about the same on a nine-inch screen (in terms of graininess) as a 1280x1024 display on an 18 inch screen. So the graininess will be fine, which leaves as the only question whether you're sitting close enough not to mind the small size. Remember that portable DVD players generally have 7" screens and the good ones display a beautifully rich cinematic picture.

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    44. Re:Sacrilege! by iamhassi · · Score: 1
      "The first "real" laptops (386 and up) that I saw with 640x480 had 10.3 inch screens... then you went up to 12 inch screens for 800x600."

      Wow, I wish it went like that. Shit 386 desktops barely had 10.3 inch screens, with 13-14" monitors really displaying ~12".

      Here's a list of LCD displays for laptops. Notice the 9" and 10" displays at the bottom? Didn't look them all up, the but Acer Extensa 570CDT with 10.4" display was a Pentium 100 with 8meg ram and 2gig hd. So much for your 386s with 12" LCDs...

      Oh, and according to Acer that 10.4 display was 800x600.

      I didn't really mean for the guy to use the 9" LCD, but it'd just look much better if he actually put a screen in the Mac instead of a stupid window and turning the PC into a case instead of a real PC. He could use a video out to a 9" LCD, then have a real monitor for daily use.

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    45. Re:Sacrilege! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he defiled PC components w/ a Mac case. =P

    46. Re:Sacrilege! by capmilk · · Score: 1
      Floppies are so last millenium. I downloaded an "iso" of the whole thing.

      You downloaded an ISO that you are not going to be able to install without the boot floppies. Oh bummer...

    47. Re:Sacrilege! by MatSimpsk · · Score: 1
      Indeed. For a far more appropriate casemod, take a look at this SE/30 case with a G3 iMac stuffed inside.

      OS X in black and white!

    48. Re:Sacrilege! by djneko · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Have you ever noticed how ANY case mode that gets posted here at /. sucks to high heaven?

      Like that x-box "mod" where they made it bigger AND uglier?

      Where is all the cool shit like the Millenium Falcon mod where the guy took the time to FUCKING LIGHT UP THE HYPERDRIVE! And did it so it looks like the hyperdrive? And cut a hole into the top of the hard drive and put a LED inside the HD bezel.

      Or the Aircraft Carrier Mod? Or the god-damned G4 Cube PC, where it still actually LOOKS like a G4, complete with top loading DVD drive?

      I mean, if they're going to post an UGLY Mac case mod, they might want to post this one, which is probably the worst case mod I've EVER seen.

      Yeesh. I get so hopeful every time I see this kind of thing pop up it completely shuts my brain down to the drivel I've seen before. I need to filter "Case mod" out of stories in the RSS feed I get.

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    49. Re:Sacrilege! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Troll, eh? Well I guess this only justifies using my mod points to knock down rabid Mac rants as "Overrated."

    50. Re:Sacrilege! by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      4 hours to make a custom bezel?! My god man. I think a paraplegic could do it faster.

      Better would have been to use a slot-loading DVD drive and taken the time to carefully grind the 3.5" floppy drive opening 1 1/8" wider to accomodate it while maintaining the recessed look of the 3.5" floppy drive. Now that would be impressive.

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    51. Re:Sacrilege! by unother · · Score: 1

      Let's not forget that he keeps going on in the whole article about this "original Macintosh". Maybe someone could have told him this, but a Macintosh Plus is not the original Macintosh. It was introduced in 1986, and was distinguished by being the first post-Jobs and thus expandable Macintosh.

      Makes his whole mod look even more foolish now.

    52. Re:Sacrilege! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      young if he can't learn to take criticism...

      Can anybody learn how to take criticism from 1000 raging Apple zealots?

  2. This is SO WRONG by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is SO WRONG on SO MANY different levels. Ay corrumba.

    1. Re:This is SO WRONG by ydrol · · Score: 5, Informative

      No this is

    2. Re:This is SO WRONG by Omega996 · · Score: 1

      Gottfluch, you're right! That is an outrage!!

    3. Re:This is SO WRONG by tb3 · · Score: 1

      Huh. I wonder what a knighthood goes for, these days?

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    4. Re:This is SO WRONG by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 3, Funny

      Christ on a bike!

      Just one more reason to be ashamed to be born an Englishman, what would Oliver Cromwell make of modern Britain?

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    5. Re:This is SO WRONG by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 1
      You win in the "so wrong" sweepstakes.

      No wonder the Brits lost their Empire....

    6. Re:This is SO WRONG by Teddy+Beartuzzi · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe it's just a ploy so Liz can lop off Bill's head.

    7. Re:This is SO WRONG by ydrol · · Score: 1

      The inquirer have now picked up the story. /. could have had it first but 'twas rejected (grouse grouse)

    8. Re:This is SO WRONG by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 1

      what would Oliver Cromwell make of modern Britain?

      Ban everything. Just because the puritans were against monarchy, don't think they were some sort of pro-freedom liberals. They even banned theatre. Name ten favorite pleasures of your life - probably all ten of them would be prohibited if Oliver Cromwell could have his way in modern Britain. Yes, this one too.

    9. Re:This is SO WRONG by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 1

      Theatre is well on the way to banning itself through unpopularity. It only exists for American tourists now anyway.

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  3. When? by imnoteddy · · Score: 4, Informative
    Aired during the 1983 Super Bowl

    Sorry, the "1984" ad was aired during the 1984 Super Bowl. Duh.

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    1. Re:When? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, because football season didn't always drag on into February as it does this year.

    2. Re:When? by FlyingBeagle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It was the Super Bowl in 1984, but since the rest of the season was played in 1983, it could be called the 1983 Super Bowl. The simplest solution is the use the full thing -- like next week's would be the 2003-2004 Super Bowl (or Super Bowl XXXVIII).

    3. Re:When? by Erratio · · Score: 1

      Just because the Super Bowl is in February this year doesn't mean that it is every year, and even if it was set like that now, considering that was 20 years ago maybe you should look into it before shooting your mouth off. The Super Bowl in 1984 was on January 22nd.

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    4. Re:When? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      OK, bud. Just out of curiousity, how did Apple manage to air a commercial in February for a product coming out a week before that? Either they managed to time travel as well, made a grave mistake, or you are the one who in fact is mistaken.


      Well Super Bowl XVIII was played on Jan 22, 1984.

      Linkage

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    5. Re:When? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It could just be a typo, you know.

      Sheesh...relax...

    6. Re:When? by skzbass · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Acutally every one is right, sorta. the commecial did play in 1983 but on latenight tv, so few people saw it. Apparently this was to qualify for awards. Some people say taht Appel only paid for it to bee shown at during the superbowl though.

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    7. Re:When? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congratulations are in order. You have been crowned the new King of Idiots. It is a hard position to achieve, but you have earned it admirably.

    8. Re:When? by dwightk · · Score: 1

      the superbowl for the 1983 season

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  4. Kinda sad... by dnahelix · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To see a Mac busted up like that.

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    1. Re:Kinda sad... by Yorrike · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Yeah. The least he could have done is sourced a small LCD screen and put that in place of the original screen.

      Add a dual head AGP card to the mix and you can run your own sized screen and get the mac case to be a virtual fish tank or actually use it in the mix, or whatever takes your fancy. I'd be impressed with that, but this is just bleh.

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    2. Re:Kinda sad... by calyphus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Should just have gutted a Cube, swapped the vid (would have to be PCI) and add a 1.4 GHz processor upgrade and it would be a fitting rebuild. But this is a travesty. I'd rather see a fishtank than to have a Mac defiled in this manner.

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    3. Re:Kinda sad... by deathcow · · Score: 1

      No... the least he could have done would have been to use some damn tie-wraps to try and organize the wires inside. All that work and you leave it a spaghetti mess???

    4. Re:Kinda sad... by Primotech · · Score: 1

      Yup, there are wire ties. However, due to the close quarters and excess cables, it was extremely extremely difficult to pull off.

    5. Re:Kinda sad... by c1pher · · Score: 1

      "Yeah. The least he could have done is sourced a small LCD screen and put that in place of the original screen."

      c'mon now...the original mac had a 9" screen on it, that's not a lot to work with, let alone easy to find or fit that in nicely.

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    6. Re:Kinda sad... by Endive4Ever · · Score: 3, Funny

      I kept looking at the pages as the project moved foward for when he was going to install the small color VGA monitor, but he never did. Lame project. To be cool he needed to incorporate the screen of the Mac, not just use it as a crummy plastic clone case that required an external monitor.

      My SE/30 thumbs it's nose at the whole mess.

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    7. Re:Kinda sad... by chewy_2000 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or he could have done something like this.. Now that's impressive.

    8. Re:Kinda sad... by MalleusEBHC · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, the Cube did not have any PCI slots. However, you can swap out the video card in the AGP slot with only a slit bit more work than normal.

    9. Re:Kinda sad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He could have also driven the original mac screen as a 640*480 screen. Sure, it probably would have involved some fancy electronic hackery, but hey, if you're going to do a hack like this, you've got to do it right.

    10. Re:Kinda sad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, there are wire ties. However, due to the close quarters and excess cables, it was extremely extremely difficult to pull off.

      You know, I also find it extremely difficult to pull off in close quarters with my excess cable, but I had never thought of using wire ties...

      How did the wire ties help you pull off, again?

  5. Slashdotted Already by Atticu5 · · Score: 5, Funny

    His webserver must be powered by the original "1984" Macintosh too, since the site is already /.ted!

    1. Re:Slashdotted Already by jeremytribby · · Score: 0, Redundant

      It's /.'d already because its saturday night. And you know what that means...

    2. Re:Slashdotted Already by LocoSpitz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pale-skinned slashdotters getting off on case porn? Hell, I would be if the damn thing weren't down already.

    3. Re:Slashdotted Already by ScottSpeaks! · · Score: 1

      Here's a (home-hosted) mirror of one of the "finished" images, complete with internal lighting and an extended DVD tray.

  6. A bit perverse, but cool by ScottSpeaks! · · Score: 4, Insightful
    OK, let's skip all the "Why would he waste all his time converting his Mac into a Windows PC? He needs to get a life!" comments and go straight to the "Wow, that's a cool piece of work!" remarks. It is. Beats my gradual conversion of similar-vintage PCs Limited Turbo XT into a Pentium/150 Linux web server, hands down.

    Still, I'd give him more points if A) he'd instead transplanted the guts of an iLamp, an iBook, or a MacCube into it, so it would still be a Mac, and/or B) found an LCD to mount in place of the window.

    And to be honest, if I ever get the nerve to eviscerate my Mac SE, I think I'd rather turn it into an aquarium.

    1. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by Primotech · · Score: 2, Insightful

      OKIE DOKIE. So far there have been a lot of comments regarding the usage of an LCD screen inside. I was unable to obtain one for the project, and also, I really needed to keep the price as low as possible (all in all, this project ran me about $500). As for the comments about putting mac parts inside, let this be the official declaration by moi, henceforth: The point of the project was to display the real first modern home PC revived twenty years after it's original conception. That's it.

    2. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by Omega996 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      so why did you put PC parts in it again? I'm not making the link here...

    3. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by danamania · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The best hack I'd seen was on a colour classic, where an LCD was found to just fit its display, a slot loading DVDrom was mounted an inch below the display, with a slot cut out freshly, and shaped to perfectly match the floppy drive slot on a quadra of the day, and a 6500 motherboard with 500MHz G3 installed were all fit inside the case. It was -very- well done.

      applefritter has the thread about it but unfortunately all the pics are now down.

      A japanese fellow has done a nice tidy conversion too.

      Personally, I have no problem just pixelling up the completely fake ones :)

    4. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pffft, the lack of LCD really kills the whole project.

      I suggest looking harder for LCD sources (broken laptops, etc).

      Otherwise it is just a Mac->PC conversion that will piss a lot of people off without doing anything technically cool. Add the LCD then you'll have something people can at least somewhat respect.

    5. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by NanoGator · · Score: 0, Troll

      "The point of the project was to display the real first modern home PC revived twenty years after it's original conception. That's it. "

      I'm sorry, but that's not good enough for our sophisticated tastes. Now pipe down, the next flamebait Microsoft story should be here any minute now.

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    6. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by Moloch666 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't know why some many people are angry with your work. Sure you could have bought an LCD screen, a G4 and spent an extra $1500 or more. I see your point of view, you found an old mac about to be thrown out and thought it would make a nice case. Then bring it to LAN parties and show off to friends. You did way more work than I would ever be able to do. I think all the naysayers should keep their mouths shut or make their own case mod.

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    7. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And someone who understand where I'm coming from. Thank you.

    8. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by geekoid · · Score: 2

      "The point of the project was to display the real first modern home PC revived twenty years after it's original conception."

      You had the FIRST modern home PC?
      wow, you'll be worth Billions!

      "...PC revived twenty years after it's original conception."

      You know, that statement makes exactly zero sense.

      I mean. good for you, projects like this are fun.

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    9. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by Zarquil · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A hack on a budget is still a hack.

      Restoring a piece of 20 year old hardware into a functional unit is certainly more cool than I've pulled off recently. And no, my backup server doesn't really count here.

      I'm sitting here imagining what the mod is going to be in another twenty years...

      "I wanted a [super-LCD|panel|unimaginably cool 3D display technology] but I couldn't find one for under $50. Fortunately, I was able to get the [64|128|258|1024] way mobo to slide in with room to spare!"

      Dammit, the kids today.. They don't dream the way we dreamed when the amber screens first came out.

      - Zarq

    10. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by nathanh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well I think your mod was pretty neat. It's a nifty portable case for a decent LAN party puter. Surely beats the boring "neon lights case with perpsex sides" that you can buy for $100.

      Only thing I would have done different is mounting the DVD on the side with a slot-loading drive. That way the front facing appearance would have been more "natural".

    11. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by nateb · · Score: 1
      The point of the project was to display the real first modern home PC revived twenty years after it's original conception.

      So are you saying that the first PC was a Mac, but now you believe that the term PC means IBM?

      I feel a holy war.

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    12. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      B0rked laptops... Yeah sure. You might get an LCD on the cheap, but it's going to be a bitch to get it to work with anything that dosen't have an embedded controller. The PCI-LCD controllers for PCs are hideously expensive.

    13. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he did not say that.

    14. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point of the project was to display the real first modern home PC revived twenty years after it's original conception. That's it.

      But what was the artistic message in putting an apple logo on the outside while having an IBM compatible PC inside?

    15. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Restoring a piece of 20 year old hardware into a functional unit is certainly more cool...

      RTFA. He didn't restore it, he replaced it with something else, and the replacement overspilled out of the box. This isn't cool or challenging at all. Plus he added a Mac logo when the inside is an IBM compatible. WTF?!?

    16. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Shit a slot loading dvd drive would of been a lot better. Even if he elongated the floppy hole a bit and it wouldn't take much. It would of been more natural.

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    17. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by ScottSpeaks! · · Score: 4, Insightful
      that statement makes exactly zero sense.

      I've been thinking about it, and it makes a bit more sense if you forget about the branding and platform identity. What he did was to take the case of the first "modern home PC" (which by his definition happens to be the original Apple Macintosh, and yeah he got the wrong model) and update into a current "modern home PC". It may not be a direct descent, but a WinXP system is one of the heirs of Macintosh.

      His mistake was to emphasize the Apple logo in his updated version, which may honor the company that made the first, but misidentifies the theme of his current construction.

    18. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1
      Surely beats the boring "neon lights case with perpsex sides"

      I'm going to spell perspex "perpsex" from now on. It seems more fitting, particularly in reference to lame case mods!

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    19. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 1

      probably because they're cheaper

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    20. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You still wasted your time. It's ugly, and stupid.

    21. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by Eil · · Score: 1


      The point of the project was to display the real first modern home PC revived twenty years after it's original conception.

      You could have put it on a shelf like everyone else does. Or behind some glass with an informative little placard on it. Or even sold it for a decent chunk of change. I know that there are a few people out there that are willing to pay quite well for for an authentic 1984 Mac in good condition, even if it needed a bit of repair.

    22. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Uh, no kidding. That's why it would be something technically cool.

      Any 8-year-old can slap together some generic parts. Actually using some skill to make something work is what's cool and is what hacking should be.

      Right now it's just a lame project that required no skill, defiled a classic computer, and doesn't even look good.

    23. Re:A bit perverse, but cool by arooes · · Score: 1

      Easy suggestion, Primotech: try it with a $500 iBook. The parts are small enough to fit into the Mac Plus case due to the iBook's portability and you cheaply have an LCD screen. If anyone tries this, email me with pics. I'd love to see it.

      And install Mac OS X for Pete's sake.

  7. I'll be impressed by spun · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When somebody mods a present day Mac into one of those old cases, including color screen. Ought to be easy, if you're willing to sacrifice a powerbook.

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    1. Re:I'll be impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, real easy, except that there's no Powerbook with a 9" screen. What are you going to do, trim down a 12" one with an X-acto knife? Get a clue.

    2. Re:I'll be impressed by beeblebrox87 · · Score: 1

      Already been done.

  8. The screen by madmad · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why not chuck an lcd screen in there and run a Mac emulator too...

    1. Re:The screen by MoneyT · · Score: 1

      Well for one, there aren't any good mac emulators.

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    2. Re:The screen by Endive4Ever · · Score: 1

      Executor is pretty good, though it doesn't run the 'ew fancy schmancy' System 7 stuff. It runs a lot of things really well, including the Apple port of Wolfenstein 3D, Gremlins. And it reads/writes Macintosh floppies and CDs in your regular PC.

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    3. Re:The screen by Pius+II. · · Score: 2, Interesting
    4. Re:The screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was going to do something similar... Gut an SE/30, put a micro-ATX or EPIA board in it with an LCD, widen the floppy slot for a slot loading DVD, etc. However, when I started researching the LCD, I found that it was going to cost around $500-$600. Personally, I'd rather put $600 toward Dell 2001FP.

    5. Re:The screen by MoneyT · · Score: 1

      Sure, there aren't any good mac emulators. It's a 68k emulator, which means at best it will run system 6.

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  9. Original hardware... by i.r.id10t · · Score: 3, Funny

    A coworker has two of the old original macs sitting on her desk for posterity. I keep trying to get her to convert one to a fish tank :)

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    1. Re:Original hardware... by 0racle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Only a SE/30, or maybe a SE should be destroyed like that, and then only if they don't work. Older then those and they're starting to become collectors items, and some people will pay well for a working 128 or 512 mac.

      Ya I know, I have a soft spot for compact Mac's.

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    2. Re:Original hardware... by DarkVader · · Score: 1

      Well, it's not a terribly impressive project - I've seen better (including a Mac Plus that did run Mac OS X - with an LCD screen) but the Plus is a reasonable choice for the project. After all, there was never a shortage of them, as it was produced for over 4 years.

      They will likely not be collectors items for the next 50 - 75 years. The 128 is pretty rare these days, and I've got a 512 logic board in running condition hanging on my wall, but the plus is just not that valuable.

      I've got several myself, and the Apple dealer I work for has several more - including one running in the showroom, right beside the PowerBook 100.

    3. Re:Original hardware... by Blic · · Score: 1

      I have a Mac Classic (SE30) down in the garage that's been running the old After Dark fishtank screensaver for years now. Every month or so I actually go into the garage and marvel that it's still running - I think it's around 12 years old now. =)

    4. Re:Original hardware... by gobbo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I have a 512ke right here. Have thought about modding it several times over the years, especially when the kids convinced me to buy a fish ;-)

      I can't bring myself to do it. It boots in 17 seconds (System 1) and runs MS Word v.3 (hanging indents, columns, drop caps, woo!) offa one floppy - documents go on the other. The other system disk I have has Daleks and Kidpix on it. It doesn't crash, feels faster than it should. Dammit, it's still getting used, 19 years later! The desktop gui really hasn't changed all that much. My concern is the longevity of the few remaining 800k floppies I've scrounged.

      I can get it networked via LocalTalk with some hijinks and a System 4 disk I have buried somewhere. Rest assured that if I do find webserving software that'll run on it, I won't tell /. the URL. Any webserver suggestions for system 4, oldtimers?

    5. Re:Original hardware... by Endive4Ever · · Score: 1

      No, it's wrong to gut an SE/30 for that sort of project. The SE/30 is still a useful machine and can run NetBSD.

      X11 on a 1-bit tiny screen isn't that wonderful, but with the Tab Window Manager you can play GNU Chess and some other things.

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    6. Re:Original hardware... by Cramer · · Score: 1

      Heh. I used an SE as a clock in college. (network traffic kept it wrong most of the time.)

    7. Re:Original hardware... by Cramer · · Score: 1

      Don't know about System 4, but the ncsa web server was compiled for 7. And a few hours after I tried it on an SE, I provided it's builder with the solution to the long standing reason for it always crashing on an SE... the stack size was too small.

      That would've been 1993 or so. I remember the tale, but not any of the names :-) And I certainly doubt that stuff is still floating around these days. I no longer have that SE -- and I was informed of the drives failing several months after selling it.

    8. Re:Original hardware... by ScottSpeaks! · · Score: 1
      Any webserver suggestions for system 4, oldtimers?

      The closest match I'm aware of is MacHTTP, which requires System 7.5.

    9. Re:Original hardware... by gobbo · · Score: 1

      Alas, not much chance of running MacHTTP on a 512ke, System 4 is a stretch already. I would need eight times the RAM. *Sigh* there must be something, running that machine as a server would be so... anti-leet.

    10. Re:Original hardware... by ScottSpeaks! · · Score: 1
      I know of a few micro-httpd projects out there which might theoretically port to a machine that constrained, at least in terms of their size. Some are closed-source. One catch is that they all take advantage of OS features like TCP/IP support, which I suspect System 4 didn't have natively. {grin}
      • thttpd *n*x open-source, 50KB executable, I'm running this on a floppy/486 firewall
      • Simple Server Windows freeware, <1MB executable
      • Serving ditto
      • TinyWeb Windows, Delphi source, BSD-ish licence, 53KB executable
      • Simple HTTP Server Windows/Linux shareware, <100KB executable
    11. Re:Original hardware... by gobbo · · Score: 1

      Thanks! Um, you DO know I'm talking about an old (very old) Mac, right? Those are all Intel-friendly, and I could easily dig up an old 286 if so inclined...

      You're right, though, the tcp/ip support seems to be the primary barrier.

    12. Re:Original hardware... by ScottSpeaks! · · Score: 1
      I'm talking about an old (very old) Mac

      Let's see... 8MHz Motorola 68000, no FPU, a low-density floppy drive or two, half a Meg of RAM, serial I/O ports, external hard drive (if any)... is that the one? Sure, there'd be some serious porting issues, but these are programs coded in high-level languages, not assembly, so if you were really intent on it, I think it could be done. The hardware would be (barely) sufficient. That's all I'm saying.

      Personally, I don't think I'd try it with anything "smaller" than an SE/30, which - as a Classic-style model - would have a lot of the same look-at-my-cute-li'l-server appeal, but with the benefit of technology that's roughly contemporary with the World Wide Web. (And if all else failed, you could load NetBSD on it.)

    13. Re:Original hardware... by gobbo · · Score: 1
      Let's see... 8MHz Motorola 68000, no FPU, a low-density floppy drive or two, half a Meg of RAM, serial I/O ports, external hard drive (if any)... is that the one?

      Almost, it's a 512K"E" (for Extended)--800K floppy drive (w/ an external). Main problem seems to be that running LocalTalk on it in a stripped-down Sys4.x uses up a full 800k disk, though there seemed to be some RAM headroom still when filesharing, last time I tried (connected it to a G3 running Sys8.6 about 4 years ago).

      Getting an SE/30 up as a webserver wouldn't be much challenge, have used many of them as file servers and FileMaker hosts over the years, (formerly) powerful little boxes and able to make serviceable use of a 10bT connection. I've even used a couple of Classics as web clients (not just for fun!), so the 8MHz 68000 can be stretched.

      Well, time to look for that System 4 disk, see what can be done. Glad I still have a 5400 in service on the network, it has a floppy drive and can run LocalTalk Bridge. Maybe I can run the http server on the 5400 (180MHz 603e) but keep the files on the toasterMac. Hm, I get to be a nerdy old codger next weekend.

    14. Re:Original hardware... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      MacTCP needs System 6, IIRC, so you'd need something that would run over KIP probably, and a Kinetics router/bridge to handle the TCP encapsulation.

      The webserver would be the easy part - you can get source for a very simple subset of HTTP/1.0 and then you'd need to do the Toolbox work. :)

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    15. Re:Original hardware... by DarkVader · · Score: 1

      Well, I just spent the last 4 hours trying to get it to work.

      I managed to figure out that it'll run 6.0.8, but not 7 - and every web server I've managed to find requires at least system 7.

      I could have made it do ftp, though.

      (and no, I didn't do it with a real 512e. I cheated and used vMac on Mac OS X. But if I take the 512e logic board off my wall and throw it into a plus case I could.)

      If you have better luck than I did, let me know.

    16. Re:Original hardware... by gobbo · · Score: 1

      Wow, intrepid!

      "I managed to figure out that it'll run 6.0.8, but not 7 - and every web server I've managed to find requires at least system 7."

      Even doing this in emulation, getting system 6 running in 512k of RAM and 800K of storage is pretty good.

      Maybe the webpages could be hosted on the fatmac, and served by another newer machine, would that be cheating?

  10. geez by standsolid · · Score: 1

    I go to the site, and the server is already getting slashdotted to hell. It's like a subscriber-only slashdotting. sheesh.

    as for the computer, It doesn't look too bad... but i'm not too fond of the different colored glowing lights. I would have been more impressed if they used one of those VIA baords and tried to get a 5" or so LCD in there. that would be sweet.

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  11. This is impressive? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Have you never seen a Cube? Pissed all over this, three years ago

    2) A separate monitor? You do NOT get it.

    3) Why is this on Slashdot?

  12. /.'d by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but... from what other people have said... I don't want to see this so maybe everyone has done me a favor.

  13. Apple's new Superbowl Ad. by russotto · · Score: 5, Funny

    This year's Super Bowl, Apple is skipping the product ad and going political. It's going to be a remake of the 1984 ad, only with a different face on the screen. And this time, the babe gets caught by security before smashing the screen. At the end, the head of the security forces pulls off his helmet to reveal:

    "John Ashcroft. Why 2004 WILL be like _1984_"

    1. Re:Apple's new Superbowl Ad. by Primotech · · Score: 1

      Holy shit dude, very funny. :D

    2. Re:Apple's new Superbowl Ad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The people who modded this funny should think twice. Insightful is more like it.

    3. Re:Apple's new Superbowl Ad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was actually thinking the original comment was quite stupid.

    4. Re:Apple's new Superbowl Ad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahahahahahaha. Look at me guys! I'm FUNNY!

      Learn to think for yourself, tool.

    5. Re:Apple's new Superbowl Ad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I was thinking you are quite stupid.

      The original comment was both funny and insightful.

    6. Re:Apple's new Superbowl Ad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah right. its lefty paranoia. when four more years of georgie has gone by and america is:

      1) more prosperous than ever with more jobs than ever
      2) NOT a military state, and
      3) the world is in fact more free because we ignored the claptrappings of reactionaries like you...

      You will probably still not be convinced because your entire philosophy is disposable and corrupt.

      You are the weakest link...goodbye!

    7. Re:Apple's new Superbowl Ad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      the world is in fact more free because we ignored the claptrappings of reactionaries like you

      Interesting. "Law enforcement" in the US currently has privacy invasion rights matching or exceeding some tyrannies.

    8. Re:Apple's new Superbowl Ad. by starm_ · · Score: 1

      I am all for capitalism, I think it is the only system that can really work. It is proven by mathematics and economics. It mimics evolution, it makes the strong and hard worker survive, which makes the whole country function better.

      There are some limits though. Often the rich people are rich because they were born rich or in an advantageous setting, not because they were intelligent, hard working or creative.

      Having social programs, free health care etc is good for the country in all ways possible. Even the most money driven corporations make their employee receive part of their salary in health insurance and other programs similar to what a socialist government would give. They do that because they know that having healthy and content employees makes the company more productive. They are not just trying to be nice. If you look at a country as a financially responsible entity it only makes sense that it provides these services to its people in order to make an efficient country. And not only does it stimulate the economy, it makes the population generally happier. Killing two bird with one stone! If you don't do that, you get all the costs of a sick unhappy population. A unhappy population stimulates crimes, drugs, lunatics in your backyard and inefficiency.

      Here in Canada, our economy is so strong that it is able to pay health care for every citizen dispite the fact that it is much more costly to live in our climate. Food only grows for 4 months of the year here and we have to spend enormous amounts of money for heating in the winter. We also feel we have much more freedom than in the United-States. Our government is not continually controlling us or passing crazy laws by spreading fear of continuous war against terrorism. (not unlike Big Brother of 1984 I might add).

      If the US would take care of its citizens more they would probably be a lot more productive. Furthermore, because you guys live in a really low cost climate, you would all be very rich and prosperous. Too bad your goverment is wasting all your money on military, killing all these people, and not taking care of its citizens.

    9. Re:Apple's new Superbowl Ad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I'm still trying to figure out what world you people live in... I'm no "leftie".

      I'm a gun owner. Infact I belong to various orginazations related to guns and their use. This alone is enough to get me labled as a right-wing freak by most of the country.

      I'm all for having as little government as possible.

      Etc.

      I don't know where you get that our philosophy is "disposable and corrupt.", when the leader you praise so much is invariably more corrupt than you could hope to imagine.

      Really, you come in here, without a shred of evidence to support your claims (especially when all indications point the opposite way), tantamountally say that anyone who dosen't support bush dosen't know what the fuck they're talking about, and go just about as far to say we're treasonists. You know what? This guy deserves no faith. Faith is for the gods, of which I can assure he is not.

    10. Re:Apple's new Superbowl Ad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      None of those things are true right now, in fact they are obviously false to anyone with half a brain. What reason is there to think a second term would be any different?

    11. Re:Apple's new Superbowl Ad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you're not funny. The original message was funny, but only to people who are not right-wing retards.

    12. Re:Apple's new Superbowl Ad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      1. We are in the midst of a jobless recovery (unemployment only appears low because it disregards people who have stopped trying) and offshoring has spread from manufacturing to both knowledge work and service industries.
      2. Besides civil forfeiture (a license to rob the accused, even those found not guilty), our police state now has the power to use undisclosed search warrants, wiretaps, and library/bookstore surveillance (with no more oversight than a special court alleged to always grant any request). They've already restricted travel of nonviolent political dissidents and arbitrarily labeled people "enemies" and imprisoned them with no regard for civil rights and no oversight whatsoever.
      3. The only people in the world that benefitted from our current rampage are Iraq's surviving population, and that's only because Governor Bush is not a sadistic sociopath like Saddam. For this we have sacrificed our army's morale and readiness and pissed away all goodwill with the most of our allies as well as the UN, and the justification for doing it was complete crap the administration either didn't or shouldn't have believed. At this point, it's a toss-up whether Saudi Arabia will arrange another attack before the rest of the Western world decides we're a rogue state--an imminent threat to everyone Bush personally dislikes--and invades to install a democratic government.
  14. Was she really wearing an ipod? by VValdo · · Score: 5, Funny

    I tell ya, Jobs was more of a visionary than any of us thought.

    W

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    1. Re:Was she really wearing an ipod? by Aliencow · · Score: 1

      No she wasn't.

    2. Re:Was she really wearing an ipod? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I noticed that in this version she is wearing an iPod. Did anyone else catch that too?

    3. Re:Was she really wearing an ipod? by PotPieMan · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes.

    4. Re:Was she really wearing an ipod? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahhh... Look again... Through the wonders of CGI, she is indeed wearing an ipod in the commercial on the Apple website.

    5. Re:Was she really wearing an ipod? by darcybrown · · Score: 1

      Nah... If he was *really* a visionary, she would have had a pink iPod mini with the arm band accessory. *That* is the future.

    6. Re:Was she really wearing an ipod? by FFFish · · Score: 2, Interesting

      By gods, that IS an IPOD! Nice adbusting. Can you adbust your own ad?

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    7. Re:Was she really wearing an ipod? by Primotech · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Apparently. I was going to link to the new Apple commercial as well, but you would have all thought that I'm craz(ier).

    8. Re:Was she really wearing an ipod? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I thibk the ad would have been better, if every time the cut to her they played some music.

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    9. Re:Was she really wearing an ipod? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      so the original ad as about breaking out of the 'only' computer option i.e. IBM.

      So is this one about breaking out of the 'only' music options?

      Interesting....Very interesting.

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    10. Re:Was she really wearing an ipod? by UserGoogol · · Score: 5, Funny

      The original ad contained the iPod. Apple is allied with IBM. Apple is at war with Microsoft. Apple has always been at war with Microsoft.

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    11. Re:Was she really wearing an ipod? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      There was an iPod? Hmmm... All I thought of while I saw her running was "nice tits"...

      Guess I'll have to rerun the thing...

  15. So, for 2006: by Meowing · · Score: 1

    Will someone be cramming a G6 (or whatever they're on) board into a 5150 case?

    1. Re:So, for 2006: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...(or whatever they're on)...

      Acid.

    2. Re:So, for 2006: by MsGeek · · Score: 1

      I have a dead 5150 (original 5-slot IBM PC for those not in the know) that's going to get a makeover. I'm thinking that I'll shove an entire VIA EPIA in a Cubid case into the 5150 case. Will it run Linux? Of course it will! The guts of several Macs could probably also fit in one of those cases...that would be a cool mod if someone did it.

      And I agree...waste of Compact Mac. I would think a PowerBook logic board would fit in one of those cases, if not a CRT iMac logic board.

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    3. Re:So, for 2006: by stanmann · · Score: 1

      You could fit a family of 4 into the 5150 case. In fact that is a good Idea for "low income housing".

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  16. /.ed? Noooo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like it's /.ed, here's the part of the article dealing with the actual modding:

    Before You Start

    The first thing you will need to accomplish before you start hacking up your case, is knowing where you want to install the fans. Once you have figured out where you would like to place the fans, you need to decide a few more things. A) Which size fan should I use in this spot? B) Will the fan even be able to fit there? (Trust me it's worth it to take the time and make sure!) and C) Which direction would I want the fan to blow? The most common places to install extra fans are on the side, top and front of the case. Fans mounted on the top of the case are useful because they help to get rid of the hot air that rises to the top of the case, so these fans are usually blowing air up, out of the case. Fans on the front of the case are used to introduce colder air into the case, which helps to lower the temperature of anything inside the case. Fans mounted on the side are usually placed strategically, to help cool a specific part of the system, the video card, and the CPU are the most common. When people put fans on the side of the case, they need to consider very carefully which direction the air should be pushed. In some cases, you want fresh, cold air being circulated, but other times you just want to pull any hot air that might be trapped, right out of the case. Once you have decided where you want to place your new fans, you're ready to get started!

    Getting Started

    OK, you've gutted your case, figured out which fans you want to use, and where you want to put them, so it's time to start the fun stuff. The first thing you need to do is mark up the case, so you know where to drill and cut. I use a washable marker, so that I can easily rinse off any marks I make on the case.

    I choose to place fan grills where I want the fans to be, and then mark where each corner of the fan grill is. In doing this, I have made it clear where the fan will go, and it helps to make sure that you have the screws line up with the hole. After you mark your 4 dots on the case, take a drill and drill out each hole. Next I screw the fan grill into the case, and outline the hole I will need to cut out. I complete these steps for every fan on the case before I go any further. At this point you have set in stone, where each of your fans will go, as well as where the hole itself needs to go.

    The Tough Way

    Like I already said, we will be completing this mod using very simple tools, which makes it more realistic for most people to be able to do a case mod. Unfortunately, this way is harder than the alternative that I will discuss. If you do not have the proper sized hole saw, and are not confident with a dremel, then this is a sure way for you to make a good looking hole for your fan to fit into, it will just take a lot of patience.

    To do the mod in this fashion you will need to take your drill, and make a bunch of holes around the perimeter of your outlined circle, just inside of where you want the edge of your hole to be.

    Once you have drilled around the perimeter of the hole, you need to drill a big hole somewhere in the center of the where the hole is going to be. This hole only needs to be big enough to fit some tin snips into. Keep in mind that tin snips are somewhat clumsy, and it takes a while to cut the case like this, so if you have a scroll saw, or another means of cutting the metal in your case, by all means, use it. The purpose here is to cut the hole into 'slices' so it looks like a pizza. When you do this, just cut from the center, and connect it with one of the holes you drilled around the edge of the circle.

    Once you have all the pieces cut to the edge of your hole, you need to take pliers, and bend each piece out. The more holes you put around the edge of the circle, the nicer this will look, and the less filing you will have to do afterwards, so keep that in mind. As soon as you finish breaking out each piece you ar

  17. OMFG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He bastardized a MacPlus, and even worse, it needs an external monitor! This dude has no sense of style.

  18. Apparently by jeffkjo1 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Apparently the web server is running the same Macintosh introduced to the world back in 1984 as well.

  19. Three points... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    1. It looks like crap.
    2. It's a PC.
    3. It looks like crap.

    1. Re:Three points... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Macs are PCs too...

  20. woowoo... by TWX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Somehow I'm a little less than impressed. Not necessarily with the workmanship, mind you, but with the concept design and ultimate implementation.

    Someone in the past modified a Color Classic to have a G3 in it, and maintained the look and feel of the original Classic, complete with color 512x384 display. I think that they made some mods to the video display circuitry so it could do 640x480, but the original tube was used. All of the components fit inside of the case.

    If they were dead-set on converting that Mac to a PC platform, they could have use a Mini-ITX motherboard and mounted it in the bottom, like the shuttle PCs. They could have also used an undersized power supply like HP, eMachines, and shuttle PCs used, so that it would also fit nicely. They would have had to find someone to design and build the necessary hardware to run the display that was there, or they could have bought a Fujitsu 8" colour monitor that are commonly used at cash register systems. That would have allowed them to keep the monitor inside.

    At least they got practice with a Dremel. Hopefully they'll come up with something a little less rough next time.

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    1. Re:woowoo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      actually, the common problem with hacking these older black and white Macs is that they're not deep enough for a color tube.

      the real pros start with an already-color Mac (the Colo[u]r Classic) and cram as much as they can into it

    2. Re:woowoo... by ryanw · · Score: 1
      Somehow I'm a little less than impressed. Not necessarily with the workmanship, mind you, but with the concept design and ultimate implementation.
      I would complete agree with your assessment.. Just looking at the "end result" it just makes me think, "Huh?". So they were able to stuff a PC into the case of an old mac. It appears they not only raped an old mac, but they also have wasted several pieces of pizza.

      They said they used 25 pieces of pizza. Medium pizzas generally have 8 pieces. Larges have 10. Their picture of their pizza looks like it has 6 or 8 pieces. I can't see how you get 25 pieces out of those numbers without having to throw some away.

      Don't people know there are STARVING DEVELOPERS in India?

  21. I want to do one too by standsolid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have a mac classic sitting in my garage waiting for me to do something to it.

    I want to annoy my friends (yeah... ok... friend) by making a boot floppy for my Mac Classic that just shows a linux penguin (i put linux on everything i can), or maybe a Mac Logo, for a tribute. How would one go about doing that? I think it would be more of an honor than raping this poor machine and putting an AMD inside :)

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    1. Re:I want to do one too by JasontheMason · · Score: 1
      I want to annoy my friends (yeah... ok... friend) by making a boot floppy for my Mac Classic that just shows a linux penguin (i put linux on everything i can), or maybe a Mac Logo, for a tribute. How would one go about doing that?

      Dunno, but you could try putting an actual Linux install on it. :^) Debian has an m68k port that might work, I not sure if there are others. Only reason I haven't run it is because my SE/30 is needed as an Ethernet/localtalk network bridge, but anyway, if you can find (or happen to have) a NIC for it it would make a cool terminal at the very least. :^)

      JTM

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    2. Re:I want to do one too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well pop ya dick and put it in..

    3. Re:I want to do one too by Monx · · Score: 1

      Make a boot floppy, but replace the Finder with an app that draws the image you want. It's easy.

    4. Re:I want to do one too by kylearin · · Score: 1

      It's very easy. Create a bitmap file called StartupScreen and put it into the System folder.

      Note that I have no idea which versions of System will use this, or even if I have the filename right at this point. It's been about 15 years since I've tried it. :)

      Good luck!

    5. Re:I want to do one too by calyphus · · Score: 2, Informative
      Create the image and save it as a Pict file with the name StartupScreen, with no QT compression, and put it in the System Folder (not a subfolder).

      That won't replace the progress splash, however. For that you need to do a resEdit hack of the System file. It's actually pretty simple. Open the System File in ResEdit, locate the resource pict(s), copy, edit, c 'n p back into the same resource in the System file and save.

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    6. Re:I want to do one too by dborod · · Score: 1

      If I recall correctly, the file format isn't a PICT, it's something called 'StartupScreen'. There's an application called Graphic Converter that knows how to convert files into this format.

  22. Maybe he could run Rhapsody x86 on it by tivoKlr · · Score: 1
    This guy could bt a copy of Rhapsody DP2 for x86 and that would be truly interesting...

    A mac case with mishmash insides sporting a defunct os...

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    1. Re:Maybe he could run Rhapsody x86 on it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and where can he get a copy from? :)

    2. Re:Maybe he could run Rhapsody x86 on it by tivoKlr · · Score: 1

      bt --- see original post. (bittorrent)

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  23. weak by seanadams.com · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a really weak case mod. Step 1: find square box. step 2: stuff a pc in said square box.

    It would have been interesting if it had incorporated some kind of technical/artistic/nostalgic trick. For example: using modern mac parts (g4 cube maybe) and fitting a new display in place of the original. Or better yet, figure out how to get the old display working on a new machine. Or neatly fit new connectors (usb, firewire, ethernet) in place of the old, etc. This is just a motherboard in a different box - there is nothing interesting or clever about it.

    1. Re:weak by twitter · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Agreed. It would have been better had they crammed a LCD into it. The whole point of the original was that it was easy to use and lug around. Additionally, the addition of the DVD was pointless without a screen and not really much use with one. A network card is all you need to get useful infomration on and off any computer, why screw up a face for a soon to be obsolete media? It would have looked much nicer with a screen. A picture of the sigs on the back of the empty box would hae made the perfect wallpaper for a computer that could stand on it's own again. If the built in screen is too small to be usefull, run an X server and tie into it with another computer that has a reasonable screen.

      Of course, it's not too late for them to do something like that. The disk drive bay is gone forever, but they could rig up a screen.

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    2. Re:weak by Chemical · · Score: 1
      Just curious why you call DVD "soon to be obsolete". What's going to replace it? VOD (not likely)? DVD2 or some other newer media (more likely)? Do you know something the rest of us don't?

      Remember, VHS video tapes were king for 20 years. Even though the vastly superior LaserDiscs were invented around the same time (mid-1970s), and a superior tape format existed (BetaMax) the market chose VHS. The market has chosen DVD, and it is entrenched deep at this point. While a vastly superior technology may soon come along, I really doubt DVD is "soon to be obsolete" from a consumer standpoint.

    3. Re:weak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Beta was higher bandwidth but lower capacity. Which tradeoff made more sense depended on your requirements; home users were mostly just annoyed that a movie wouldn't fit on one Beta tape. The market chose VHS largely because Sony were being buttheads about licensing Beta.

      DVD has only been "entrenched" for a few years. Users are already annoyed that widescreen/pan&scan edits and making-of features tend to be on separate discs, and that they scratch and skip easily. A new format could gain traction very quickly if it supported longer content, HD video, and many (not just one or two) 7.2 soundtracks, and if players were reasonably cheap and could also play DVDs.

    4. Re:weak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      twit, you forgot to change the message subject and say "windoze" or "M$".

      BTW twit, we're still waiting on your response to this little gem. Whenever you're ready.

  24. Wait a min! by Doogie5526 · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's a Mac Plus (circa 1986) not the origional Mac (128k). He's 2 years early.

    1. Re:Wait a min! by Primotech · · Score: 1

      BASTARD!!! I knew someone here would figure it out. :D You sir, win the cookie.

    2. Re:Wait a min! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you lied to get on slashdot. Well I guess you are not the first or last. Unless this is a hoax, and then I don't get it.

    3. Re:Wait a min! by slux · · Score: 1

      It's a good thing it's not the original. Some rabid retro-mac enthusiast could've killed you for destroying such a rare machine if it would've been the original 128k. :P

      I was looking at the pictures and the first thing I wanted to see was whether it was the original or a plus (to decide should I gasp in horror or keep reading). Thanks for using just a Plus. It's more than adequate. ;)

  25. Re:Jan. 22, 1984 by DavidinAla · · Score: 4, Informative

    The spot aired on Jan. 22, 1984, the date of that year's Super Bowl.

  26. Uh, this isn't a Mac 128k by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The case is clearly that of a Mac Plus, as is the motherboard. Those came out somewhat later (and the early Mac Pluses still didn't say "Macintosh" on the front, it was just the Apple logo), and are also extremely not-at-all-valuable.

    I have an original Mac Plus (the kind which doesn't say Macintosh Plus on front) which I use as a very sturdy doorstop. (I also had a bunch of others which I gave to my brother to use as the legs for a coffee table.)

  27. UP TIME! by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 2, Funny

    For me, the ultimate case mod will always be the server / espresso machine. Got to know what's important, UP TIME!

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    1. Re:UP TIME! by mobby_6kl · · Score: 2, Funny

      you mean something like this? or maybe this?

    2. Re:UP TIME! by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 1

      I don't have the time for this, but how about a case mod / coffee machine that you could start the perk from home a few minutes befor you leave for work, via tcp/ip... Intenet appliences?

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    3. Re:UP TIME! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did this with about $10 worth of electronic parts and a 10 line perl script.

  28. No it ain't slashdotted. by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What is this constant fad with /.ing? Sure sometimes a site is overloaded but lately I seen constant claims that a site is down while the site loads perfectly fine. Are these people on some kind of hair trigger? If it doesn't load in a pico second it must be down?

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    1. Re:No it ain't slashdotted. by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 1

      I made that exact point about a year ago - this site loaded just fine for me too. Took about 30 secs, but it's busy for fucks sake!

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  29. No no no no no. by WasterDave · · Score: 1

    These original mac -> anything mods only count if you do one of two things.

    1, Anything involving still having a display built in. Extra marks for using the original CRT, normal marks for replacing it with another, lose some points for putting an LCD in ... it kinda looks funny.

    2, Make a fishtank. Or some way of dispensing beer.

    Just throwing the shit from a Windows box in it doesn't really count.

    Dave

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  30. shoot... by 74nova · · Score: 1

    i think its alright. sure, would have been cooler to have a g4(or g5) in there, of course. and, sure, it would have been cooler to have dual vid cards and have one run to an lcd in that opening where the old crt was. granted, that all would have made it cooler. i still think its pretty cool. i dig the idea of having that thing turned into a usable case. thats a pretty sweet lan party box to lug around. not even that big, really.

    ive been wanting to stick a pc in at least an old g3 case with the drop-down side. those are soooo cool. im endlessly fascinated (far more than i should be) by those things.

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  31. Bah! by forkazoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For the record, I recently got a SCSI ethernet adapter for my Macintosh. Yes, that's Macintosh. No "Plus." Model M0001. And, no, the SCSI wasn't a stock item at that point... :) I haven't quite managed to get it running as a web server. (The original macintosh has no MMU, so don't bother to suggest Linux), but It is still perfectly capable of doing lots of things without being gutted. For shame! And, once I get it running as a server on my DSL line, I fully intend to proudly put on my business cards that I am operating one of the oldest (though, certainly not the oldest) servers on the internet!

    1. Re:Bah! by bobthemonkey13 · · Score: 1
      The original macintosh has no MMU, so don't bother to suggest Linux

      Anyone know if uClinux runs on mac68k? I know there's a 68k port, but I think it's focused more on ColdFire and other more modern stuff. An original Macintosh running a modern UNIX would be awesome. Or you could try to get A/UX to work on it...

    2. Re:Bah! by Endive4Ever · · Score: 1

      I have a whole box of those SCSI/ethernet adaptors and tested each of them recently on my Powerbook 165c. They work great. I haven't figured out where to peddle them yet, but there is Linux support for them, I find, in some of the Amiga code.

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  32. Re:Jan. 22, 1984 by Primotech · · Score: 1

    Then I was mistaken, I apologize. I'm no football afficionado. :-/

  33. Re:Jan. 22, 1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Then I was mistaken, I apologize. I'm no football afficionado. :-/

    If you don't know what you're talking about then don't post. Ooops, this is /. - my bad.

  34. Correction by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 1, Redundant

    So, one can only imagine my disgust when I happened to see one of these glorious creatures sitting on the curb by a neighbor's house...

    The computer shown is actually a Mac Plus, which was first released in January 1986.

  35. The original Macintosh had no SCSI port. by dstillz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The original Macintosh had no SCSI port. Hard disks were connected via the RS-232 port, I believe.

    1. Re:The original Macintosh had no SCSI port. by One+Louder · · Score: 4, Informative

      A couple of third-party vendors popped up back in those days that managed to retrofit a SCSI port into old pre-Plus Macs using little daughterboards that fit in the ROM sockets. You'd move the ROMS onto the daughterboard. I know this because I was one of those vendors.

    2. Re:The original Macintosh had no SCSI port. by dstillz · · Score: 1

      I defer to your elder hacker status. Where did the connector go, and what System/drivers did the kit work with?

    3. Re:The original Macintosh had no SCSI port. by ljavelin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As I recall, there were two popular types of hard drives for the original Mac:

      1) Floppy drive port. Several vendors sold HDDs that plugged into the Floppy port. All these drives were known to be very s-l-o-w.

      2) Hardware modification. I owned a Hyperdrive for my Mac M0001. In a nutshell, a daughter board was attached to the CPU. My Hyperdrive was a 3.5" hard drive, 10 MB capacity. The Hyperdrive upped my RAM to 512k, and a small fan was added to the case to keep it cooler (the fan exhausted thru the top left rear vent).

      Despite the fan added by the Hyperdrive folks, my Mac had a heat problem on hot days.

      In any case, my Mac with Hyperdrive was the envy of the Apple universe. Later I upgraded my Mac to 512kE specs when the Mac Plus came out - that upgrade consisted of new ROMs and a 800k floppy.

      In all, that Mac lasted me from 1984 until 1990. Pretty darn good, athough at the end I was really hot for a SE/30. In 1990, I sold it via a classified ad for something like $600!

    4. Re:The original Macintosh had no SCSI port. by covertlaw · · Score: 1

      1984-1990? That's nothin', my IIe had to last me from 1985 until 1997!

    5. Re:The original Macintosh had no SCSI port. by Quobobo · · Score: 1

      Um, that's what he said. "And, no, the SCSI wasn't a stock item at that point..."

    6. Re:The original Macintosh had no SCSI port. by ljavelin · · Score: 1

      Wow, that's pretty good useful life! I still have my Apple II+, but I haven't really used it since 1986 or so. Nice machine, but your //e is a lot more useful.

      I have some interesting hardware with that too... Profile hard drive (from a Lisa), Videx Enhanser II (for a "complete" keyboard), CP/M card, Language card (of course), A multi-function card (clock, serial, parallel, 128k RAM), Videx 80 column card, a Disk II and a classic Panasonic 9" B&W monitor.

      It's funny that the Apple II was such a great machine for such a long time. I still remember some things like "call -151", PR#6, etc, but I forget how to run a program. Oh I do remember: "brun", "run", etc.

    7. Re:The original Macintosh had no SCSI port. by forkazoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I plainly stated it wasn't a stock item! :) Hell, This M0001 next to me has 1 MB of RAM. I swear to god! The SCSI is a centronics 50 port (rather than a DB25 that would later become standard) that sits vertically on the top-back of the mac. The system boots off of a SCSI 30 MB hard drive. (This was added much later that 1984, IIRC, but the original manuals that I acquired with the system were in a house fire... ::sob:: The hard drive itself, amazingly, was in the fire, too, but it still boots. The system is running system 6.0.8. I wish I'd had a chance to talk to the guy who gave it to me. He just wanted rid of it. I assumed it was a classic, or something quite mundane, until I looked closer when I got it home. I was quite surprised to see I had a piece of history (for free!)

    8. Re:The original Macintosh had no SCSI port. by One+Louder · · Score: 3, Informative
      The connector was usually routed out through either the external floppy hole or the battery compartment using a ribbon cable - it wasn't pretty.

      The SCSI port has the same hardware addresses as the one in the Plus, and Plus ROMS were available as an upgrade for older Macs, so no special drivers were required - any SCSI drive that worked on the Plus would work on these cards.

      Many of the memory upgrades of the day for the older Macs included a SCSI ports. A few vendors didn't route the cable out of the box and instead provided an internal drive - the GCC HyperDrive and Levco Prodigy did this.

    9. Re:The original Macintosh had no SCSI port. by wizman · · Score: 1

      I salute you! I remember retrofitting one of those boards in a 128k mac, which not only added SCSI, but added additional memory (512k or 1mb, can't remember which). Combined it with an external 40mb SCSI drive, and I had a killer system! Even back then people were modding old stuff to have the functionality of newer systems.

      I do remember it was a real pain to get installed, and we damn near ruined the system a few times. Bent the pins of the ROM all to hell.

  36. Wrong Anniversary moron. by qkslvr · · Score: 0, Troll

    That is not a mac 128k. That mac is NOT 20 years old. This is really weak. putting a PC in it? oh please - this is not hard at all. why does anyone with a digital camera and time on there hands (read: no ingenuity) get time on slashdot.

    1. Re:Wrong Anniversary moron. by Primotech · · Score: 0

      Because, we have the intiative. That's why.

  37. Mirror by phalse+phace · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since the page seems to be loading slow, I've mirrored it here.

    1. Re:Mirror by Primotech · · Score: 1

      Oh. My. God. Sir, I cannot thank you enough. Please, if there's anything I can ever do for you, send me an IM at NOTD665 on yahoo, aim, or msn, or 304460292 on icq. Thanks again, you are an angel! :D

    2. Re:Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another one. Knock yourself out.

      http://slushdot.org/mirror/primotech/mac2004.htm

    3. Re:Mirror by phalse+phace · · Score: 1

      Just promise me you won't ever harm another Mac/Apple product again, and that'll be enough. Such sacrilege!

  38. The applique? by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 1

    What *type* of applique do you need in order to get the nice reflection of colored lights?

    White? Silver etched? (I'm looking at the shatteredweb.com site that they said they got the applique from.)

    1. Re:The applique? by Primotech · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's the default, silver etched I believe it's called. Highly recommended.

    2. Re:The applique? by glk572 · · Score: 1

      Sand blasting on real glass has I think the best look. I would think that you could sand blast the lexan just about as well as the glass.

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  39. G4 Cube -in- Colour Classic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    well, some determined people have already done it...

  40. ORIGINAL ARTICLE TEXT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Macintosh 2004
    Author: Alexandre Petraglia, Gino Pellicano, and Jim Scouras

    "On January 24 [1984], Apple Computer will introduce Macintosh. And you'll see why 1984 won't be like '1984'."

    This was the pronouncement at the end of Apple's commercial, which TV Guide magazine would later deem the greatest commercial of all time. Aired during the 1983 Super Bowl, the now famous Apple Macintosh "1984" commercial informed the world that the age of modern, home PC's was coming. Get ready. Here comes the Mac.

    Apple successfully launched the Macintosh 128K on it's designated date of January 24th, 1984 (although somehow I don't imagine there were lines out the door of the Apple store, stretching for blocks and blocks and blocks, as seen here). But nonetheless, what a magnificent computer it was. Equipped with an 8Mhz CPU made by Motorola, 128kb of onboard memory, a 3.5" floppy drive, two serial ports, and a gorgeous black and white monitor built into the unit, the Macintosh was the first affordable home computer to include a GUI (graphical user interface). And the price for all that power? $2,500.

    So, one can only imagine my disgust when I happened to see one of these glorious creatures sitting on the curb by a neighbor's house, patiently waiting to be lifted into the truck by our friendly, local sanitation workers, and then carried off to a dump where it would lay to rest in happy retirement for ages to come.

    I could have reprimanded my neighbors, or I could have let the Mac be taken away. Why do things happen as they do? Perhaps fate intervened, as I'm quite certain I recall seeing a slight shiver in the corner of the Mac's screen as I firmly grasped it's conveniently located handle (and taking the keyboard and external drive that lay on the grass next to it). Could it have possibly known all that lay in store for it; my ambitious plans for granting it a new lease on life? Perhaps...

    Whatever the case, the rescued computer resided on a shelf in my dungeon laboratory basement for six months. Finally, one fateful day in December, the Mac's slumber was awoken yet again. It was time for the Mac to be reborn.

    That's right, for all those that have caught on to where I'm going with all this. I had plans as ambitious as the great Dr. Frankenstein. I was going to give a dead soul life once again. I was going to rebuild the first modern-day PC, with modern-day parts...20 years later.

    Ladies and gentlemen, I proudly present my creation...Macintosh 2004.

    Here she is, in all her glory. Oh, this is before the makeover, mind you. If you're the inpatient type, you could scroll down to the end of this article and see what it looks like in all its final glory. But that's not recommended, for it's not always about the destination, but the journey as well, my friends.

    To begin, here are some more "before" pictures.

    Inside view

    The case dismantled

    The innards

    The original motherboard

    The component list:
    -AMD Athlon XP 2500+ Barton CPU
    -MSI KM400 Socket A mATX Motherboard (Model KM4M-L)
    -Kingston HyperX PC2700 512MB (2x256)
    -Sapphire Radeon 9600 256MB
    -Western Digital WD800JB 80GB Hard Drive
    -Lite-On LDW-411S 4x DVD-RW Drive
    -Sparkle 350W FSP350-60BT Powersupply
    -Thermalright AX-7 Heatsink with AOC Aluminum 80mm Fan
    -3 (1 red, 1 blue, 1 green) LazerLED's

    Sure, we could have gone with a VIA Epia Mini based system, saved some money, and would have had no worries about fitting all the components. But quite honestly, where would the fun in that have been? This had to be a decent gaming rig as well, not just something with which to type in Word and check emails.

    Formal plans or blueprints beforehand? Little to non-existent, which would prove to be our biggest regret. We did, however, incorporate several predetermined "ideas",

  41. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, what a wonderful way to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the Macintosh, by gutting one and stuffing the innards of an x86 machine into it, then ricing it up with stupid lights to add insult to injury.

    A fitting tribute, indeed.

  42. More Apple Mods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Applefritter has one that's an original iMac pullled to pieces, and modded into a 21" monitor.

    Looks a bit odd from some angles, but it's kind of appealing.

  43. Why not a working Mac _and_ an Aquarium by joeljones · · Score: 2, Interesting
  44. LAME.LAME.LAME by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a PC and the case is clearly a Mac Plus from 1986, not an original Mac.

    This twerp is obviously to young to know what computers even cost back in the day. And he performs this sacrilege while keeping the Apple logo. Err... hello? Macs aren't PC's. You don't even have a screen installed. This is the worst mod I've seen in ages.

    1. Re:LAME.LAME.LAME by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi.

      Your mod was not original. You hollowed out an old Mac computer and put in a lame ass AMD board. Then you stuck some lights in it which is as tired as it gets. Then you write 1984 to 2004 on a piece of glass and stick it in the front.

      Whoopee.

      Please next time you want to "mod" something be original. Be creative.

      This sure as fuck wasn't either of those.

      Some links to help out with your next project

      Ars Technicas Case and Cooling fetish. They have dozens of mods being done at anyone time and many more modders lurking. Link

      Applefritter. Mac case mods and the like. Link

      HTH HAND

    2. Re:LAME.LAME.LAME by Golias · · Score: 1
      The original mac was the first user friendly personal computer (not counting that IBM machine released a few years earlier who's name eludes me at this moment in time).

      Um... Apple ][, anyone? Definately user friendly (as a Commodore owner, I was insanely jealous of my Apple-owning friends), and definately the first fully-assembled personal computer you could buy.

      Back to history class you go, kid!

      P.S. I was also unimpressed with your case mod. Putting yet another AMD board into yet another box is not all that interesting, even if it is the former case of a Mac. Andy Inhatko was far, far cooler when he was the first to turn one into a fish tank, all those years ago. Also, I've seen old all-in-one Macs turned onto bongs, which also had a novelty of its own.

      If you had turned it into an all-in-one machine that ran a modern OS, or had found some interesting applications for using it with the long-obsolete hardware that it had (such as a home automation server, a popular choice for those old Macs), then that would have been something newsworthy. This is just a poorly-vented PC case which wasted a great old machine. No major loss, since it was trash-bound anyway, but hardly newsworthy.

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    3. Re:LAME.LAME.LAME by Golias · · Score: 1

      Actually, even though I just ripped you a little, on reflection I could see how there's some utility in taking advantage of the "luggable" nature of the old Macs for Lan party stuff, especially if there's already a monitor waiting for you at the site. On thing I would change if that's the use you intend is I would replace the "window" where the monitor used to be with a big-assed fan. A 5" cooling fan would not need to turn very fast to move a lot of air through the case, resulting in a PC that's not only small, but nice and quiet. If you have no intention of mounting a small monitor in that space, this would be a good way to take advantage of it. Something to think about for future modifications.

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  45. Harsh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    i personally think what this guy did was pretty cool. i might have put in a lcd, but a lot of us don't have the cash to scrap a new MAC or buy lcd. the job the guy did probably cost around $600 anyway, and for a guy like me, thats a lot.

  46. Re:How did this get on the front page? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow what an asshole.

    I agree with the original poster too. This isn't a.s.o material.

  47. Too bad it doesn't run OS X by iminplaya · · Score: 1

    Hell that thing won't even run system 6.0.5

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    1. Re:Too bad it doesn't run OS X by radiorocket · · Score: 1

      I dunno...I'm sure these guys could get it up & running: http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,51231,00.html #

  48. vMac by Phroggy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If he put an LCD display in, he could make it run vMac. That'd be neat.

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  49. Re:I don't get it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Back then the book 1984 had absolutely nothing to do with anything, so naturally Apple picked up on it, thinking it would be cute and timely.

  50. fear the rats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i like watching her boobs shake when she runs

  51. Re:I don't get it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, here you go
    You are stupid
    You dont have to thank me.

  52. Doomed to repeat... by blat.info · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Why is it that Apple Computer is doomed to repeat the same actions that gets them in trouble time and time again. Sure, they can just settle out of court, but it's a drain on their corporate value.

  53. boring by pbjones · · Score: 1

    could have been a lot better, just another MB in a box case mod...yawn

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  54. Running MacOSX by root:DavidOgg · · Score: 1

    Well, if you used a Pegasos PPC motherboard or an AmigaOne board you could run MacOSX easily enough.

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  55. I BROKE ME COCK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    he can crow no more

  56. Case Mod? by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

    Why would I need to do a case mod for an 1984 Mac?

    I just pulled out my low SN Fat Mac (512K) from 1984 and booted her up from floppy...not the original disks and played some Missile Command on it.

  57. um, yeah, Linux...... Possibly by temojen · · Score: 1

    uCLinux has been ported to some 68K derivatives. See their Ports Page.

  58. Well You Missed the Point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    as you stated the real point was to keep the costs down. That's it.

  59. iPod commercial as well? by skzbass · · Score: 0

    Woha. OK the line on the site above is to the commercial that played in 1984. If you go the the Apple site and watch the commercial that is hoster there (http://www.apple.com/hardware/ads/1984/) and watch teh commercial again you will notice something new. THE GIRL IS WEARING AN IPOD!! very interesting

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    1. Re:iPod commercial as well? by Delphix · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Though not mentioned on Apple's site, that's not the original commerical. It was modified for the 20th anniversary and was first shown at Mac World this year. What you're looking at has been CGI enhanced... The iPod insertion is almost flawless.

      See http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2004/01/07/198 4/

      Welcome to the down side of digital editing and CGI. You can re-write history. ;-)

  60. Site Mirror by ripleymj · · Score: 1

    Just in case his site goes boom: Insta-mirror

  61. But where's the bland desktop? by LoganTeamX · · Score: 0

    I like it! Good use of LEDs, a quick processor... and a true DVD drive never hurts. AND it can game like a real PC with that nice Raedon 9600! Imagine that! I can hear the stampede of overjoyed Mac users rushing to buy them now... and their sighs of dismay that the mouse has MORE THAN ONE BUTTON! THE HORROR!

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  62. Weak, oh my God, weak. by juicy · · Score: 1

    Horrible. Sacreligious. That's not even the first Mac, it's a plus, and he crammed PC components into it!

    It's a terrifying bad drug trip. What was he thinking?

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    1. Re:Weak, oh my God, weak. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, he must have been high or something. What an asshole.

      OK, it's me again. You gave me bad Karma, so my posts have been capped for today (which, depending on how it's programmed, will be over in 15 minutes, unless of course, it's actually set for 24 hrs). How immensly clever of you all. 3

  63. Why was THAT slashdotted? by keeboo · · Score: 0

    Is that guy related (perhaps a lover) to some Slashdot admin?

    That Mac-case modding is hideous, the devil himself would run from it.

  64. Should have been a G5 by Anonymous+Cowabunga · · Score: 1

    Would have been a lot more impressive if he had fit a G5 mobo in there...not completely impossible, if you recall the iCube. At the very least, he could have run a Ximian GUI on linux, that would have at least a passing resemblance to the Mac OS. Anyone manage to run Darwin on anything, BTW?

  65. Done before, and better? by llin · · Score: 1

    Hmm, not trying to put this guy down or anything, but Mac-to-PC total conversions have been done better. Here's a step-by-step of one from a couple years ago.

    For those who'd like to run a newer Mac in an all-in-one form factor, it's apparently pretty straightforward to drop a cube straight into a Color Classic (hmmm, two obsolete systems in one!) Alternatively, it'd be a pretty neat project to put together one of these with say the guts of a 12" PowerBook.

  66. OMG - it has a FAN! by snStarter · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is just so wrong. In so many ways. It's like...it's like...taking a Linux system and proudly replacing it with Windows in order to get worms.

    Shuddering...

    1. Re:OMG - it has a FAN! by Endive4Ever · · Score: 1

      There were third party fans available for Macs in the Mac Plus era. The one I used to have was a little unit that fit neatly in the handhold on top of the case. It made the old Mac Plus more reliable (it no longer siezed up for no known reason).

      Maybe it's sacriledge, but they did make the machine more reliable, if a bit noisier.

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  67. Re:Jan. 22, 1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BWHAHAHAHAHAH! You got 0WN3D! Maybe you're not a football aficionado but what about a Google aficionado dumbass?

  68. Has anyone done a complete updating/retrofit? by lwagner · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know of anyone who has taken a dead vintage Mac (like a Plus) and fit the case with a TFT screen and either a mini-ITX board or a modern Mac board? Any links?

    This guy did it half-way. If we're going to butcher a vintage Mac Plus in the name of retro coolness, I want to see a fully updated computer.

  69. Re:Jan. 22, 1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would seem, good sir, that coherency and intellect aren't your strong points.

  70. Stay tuned! by gerardrj · · Score: 5, Funny

    For his next "mod", he'll gut a 1947 Ferrari 125 and replace all the parts with those from a 2004 Buick Regal.

    Why is this news, and why is it on the front page? Is there no end to these "look! I stuffed a PC system in to a different box" stories?

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    1. Re:Stay tuned! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please, I would never go and do something as inane as gutting a timeless masterpiece.

      Err, nevermind...

    2. Re:Stay tuned! by letdownjournals · · Score: 1

      For his next "mod", he'll gut a 1947 Ferrari 125 and replace all the parts with those from a 2004 Buick Regal.

      Ah, so you've heard of the iBuick.

  71. crazy claim here by b17bmbr · · Score: 1

    After a clean install of Windows, things were running along smoothly.

    running smoothly, yeah right.

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  72. FINALLY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Someone found a good use for a Mac (or, at least, its chassis)! It makes perfect sense; pretty exterior, yet underpowered proprietary internals, latter replaced with new powerful engine. Elegant yet inriguing.

    Now there's finally hope for those unfortunate millions of Mac users that have been locked to their platform, without decent computing power. It is time to get back to the future!

    From now on, let it not be forgotten that us PC people have shown out mercy, as well as the path forward to our Mac brethren. No more cheeky remarks about Bill G's nerdy looks, or about SCO, please. Come, join our happy ranks; why don't we all just get along!

  73. OrwellPostFacto by hysterion · · Score: 2, Informative
    Too bad it doesn't run OS X.

    Oh but it does!

    1. Re:OrwellPostFacto by a-aiyar · · Score: 1

      Mod the parent up. The link is to a really cool Mac SE upgrade to a G3/233 that runs OS X (10.2), has a CDROM and USB ports, while retaining the 9" Mac SE screen. Now that's a freakin' cool mod.

  74. Sexual Insecurity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'nuf said.

    1. Re:Sexual Insecurity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The average Mac user is quite secure in their homosexuality actually, so I don't think thats it...

    2. Re:Sexual Insecurity by Primotech · · Score: 1

      /me lost

    3. Re:Sexual Insecurity by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 1

      You have sex with you Mac??? I tried that with my Win98 box, but... It didn't work out like I thought it would. Now I have to pay M$ alomony.

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    4. Re:Sexual Insecurity by Primotech · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      lol. You did the screwing, and got screwed in the end.

  75. What,,,no LCD screen? by Sean+Johnson · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I saw a mac mod some time ago where the person put a small LCD screen where the original monitor would have been as well as the usual replacing of componenets. It was slick. He could then run a Mac emulator to get the full effect. So unless you were told so, or you got pretty close, you'd never know it really wasn't a mac. Truly macabre!

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  76. that is very 1984 by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    take a piece of historical text, then modify it to fit your current needs. Could not have been more Orwellian.

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  77. Uhhh... by Xyde · · Score: 0, Troll

    Guys, it looks like ass.

    1. Re:Uhhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not trolling it's true. why bother with the PC innards, just put a set of lights in it... and maybe some fish.. or a hamster... or a hamster in a little diving costume.. now that would be cool.

  78. Ugh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No slot loading drive? I mean come on! The CD drive tray is so tacky!

  79. Cliche alert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, but does it run linux?
    Imagine a beowolf cluster of these.

  80. Kinda sad...Plastic surgery on corpses. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "To see a Mac busted up like that."

    Ah! No respect for the dead. :)
    But seriously a lot of people feel the same when old Amigas, Ataries, Acorns, Radios, and TV's are gutted for a mod....or just plain gutted. Kind of like gutting an old friend.

  81. 'll be impressed-chump change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Ought to be easy, if you're willing to sacrifice a powerbook."

    At those prices?? NEVER!!

  82. I have the A/UX 3 CD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too bad it does not run under Fusion or Basilisk. I tried both Fusion and Basilisk and it does not work

  83. Grr by DaLiNKz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You guys are not giving them any credit, which is wrong. They didn't want to mod it into another computer, they used it as a case. I for one think its a very good case, as they intended it. I don't care what they did to the screen, it looked cool. Give them credit, they tried.

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  84. Its not a 1984 Mac... by goMac2500 · · Score: 1

    Thats a Mac Plus. Those came later. Boy, those screamed past my poor little 512ke (third mac ever made).

  85. UP TIME!-Saluting. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Got to know what's important, UP TIME!"

    Viagra "drip" dispenser.

  86. 2 Button Mouse by wankerbollock · · Score: 1

    And you all said that a Mac could not support a 2 button mouse!

  87. Kinda cool...but Windows?!? by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 1

    It's kinda cool (unlike some, I don't belittle the effort to configure the insides &c.), but it's running, not modern Mac OS, not a real OS like GNU/Linux, *BSD or something, but Windows. It's akin to Hagia Sophia (the greatest of Christian churches, used as a mosque for nearly half a millennium). The guys really should slap a free OS on there. Other than that it's pretty sweet.

    1. Re:Kinda cool...but Windows?!? by snilloc · · Score: 1

      At least he could have put Darwin-X86 on it to make it as OSX-ish as possible...

  88. poetry on our mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I found a mac plus in our dorm and rather than throw it away I tried to find something useful to do with it. Now "Lil' Lenin" is a public terminal for random poetry. If only the floppy had enough space for more than ten pages...

  89. Alternatives by MoronGames · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You know, it would have been a lot cooler if you would have jammed the innards of a G4 Cube inside of that old Macintosh. That and a small LCD screen. I mean, he could have at least kept it a Mac that way...

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  90. Mac ITX? by bluewee · · Score: 1

    Could I go and buy a MiniItx motherboard,for a G4 / G5 processor?

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  91. Re:Can't aford one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Touchy people I guess. Offtopic? Guess the mods are not getting laid tonight.

  92. Re:First Post Raiders by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Raiders suck. Just lose, baby!

  93. But it's a PC! by PhunkySchtuff · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What would have been more impressive is if he got, say, the guts of an LCD iMac or eMac, and fitted a small, high-res LCD in place of the original monitor, keeping it a real mac and also keeping it an all-in-one form-factor...
    - k

  94. Mac Case Mod = joke by superpulpsicle · · Score: 1

    I am sorry but Moding anything hardware/software is more of a PC culture type of thing.

    If I get a penny for every mac user who claims Mac works perfect out of the box, I'd be a kazillionaire right now. Talking about modding mac cases, that's like bringing up innovation with microsoft.

  95. Superbowl ad schedule by Animats · · Score: 1

    Three Superbowl this year ads are for Viagra-type drugs. Really.

  96. Re:Jan. 22, 1984 by MarsCtrl · · Score: 1
    The spot aired on Jan. 22, 1984, the date of that year's Super Bowl.
    ...although technically, it also aired for the first time on December 15, 1983, at 1:00 AM (the sign off slot for KMVT 11, Twin Falls, Idaho), so that it would be elligable to receive awards the following year.

    (See here or here for details)
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  97. Re:Jan. 22, 1984 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, his two main strong points are incoherncy, idoicy and a complete failure to be able to spell.

    No wait, his THREE main . . .

  98. Re:lolololol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "kekekeke"? Is that korean or do you have emphysema?

  99. 1984 history books repaced with 2004 editions by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 4, Funny

    And I suppose you think that running Unix on a Mac is sacrilege too?

    Those who posses a history book from 1984 should immediately contact the Ministry of Information. The following typographical errors have been corrected since then:
    - Replace references to IBM as "evil empire" with "valued PowerPC partner".
    - Replace references to Microsoft as "valued third party software developer" with "evil empire".

    Ministry of Information agents will collect incorrect history book and provide corrected versions. The agent will also collect the book "Unix Haters Handbook" as it contains numerous typos, including the title. A corrected version, "Unix Lovers Handbook", will be provided.

    1. Re:1984 history books repaced with 2004 editions by sciwhiz007 · · Score: 1

      Ministry of Information agents will collect incorrect history book and provide corrected versions. The agent will also collect the book "Unix Haters Handbook" as it contains numerous typos, including the title. A corrected version, "Unix Lovers Handbook", will be provided.

      Shouldn't that be the Ministry of Truth?
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    2. Re:1984 history books repaced with 2004 editions by echo · · Score: 1

      Yes, I believe the poster is thinking of "Brazil". Actually come to think of it, this mac case mod looks alot like those computers from that movie.

    3. Re:1984 history books repaced with 2004 editions by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 1

      Thanks, but I was thinking 1984. It's been over 20 years since I read it though. Now I had seen Brazil a couple of times so perhaps it did have an influence.

    4. Re:1984 history books repaced with 2004 editions by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 1

      Thanks. I didn't have a copy of 1984 to double check such details. I'll have to pick one up on my next visit to the bookstore.

    5. Re:1984 history books repaced with 2004 editions by gryphokk · · Score: 1

      Or you could just read it here.

      The Ministry of Truth -- Minitrue, in Newspeak -- was startlingly different from any other object in sight. It was an enormous pyramidal structure of glittering white concrete, soaring up, terrace after terrace, 300 metres into the air. From where Winston stood it was just possible to read, picked out on its white face in elegant lettering, the three slogans of the Party:

      WAR IS PEACE

      FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

      IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

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  100. Re:Jan. 22, 1984 by skinfitz · · Score: 1

    I'm just wondering - did geeks watch football back in 1984? I can picture it now: Mundane: "Hey geek boy I got a new computer" Geek: "Yeah yeah its not as good as my Apple II" *looks* Geek: "WTF??!!!111"

  101. the perfect example by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    The end result is exactly what a PC actually is, humiliating, a pale comparison to the original ;0)

  102. no THIS is a case mod worth of Macintosh by jan.korky · · Score: 1

    just check out this case mod
    it just stunned me how it is incorporated ino the car.
    it is a G4 used as mp3 player, navigation, communication with the engine and all things possible

    http://www.mujmac.cz/art/hw/tatra_mac_eng.html

  103. More perversion, not so cool by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

    The point of the project was to display the real first modern home PC revived twenty years after it's original conception

    By the same logic, we can dig up decomposing corpses, wear their skin, and by such means, "revive" them?

    Well, that was my excuse- the judge didn't buy it though.

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  104. I like mine better by mistermark · · Score: 2

    My mod at least has a tube in it :-)

    macmod.html

    Oh, and I do use a Classic II regularly just as it is and as it was intended...

    fastclassic.html

  105. Now this is a proper case mod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Now this are cool classic mac case mods!
    You can buy from these guys a classic mac (128K to plus to S30 to classic ...) fitted with a G4 and a color screen so that it runs OS X

    http://www.nextro.com/nextro/english/i30.html

  106. Re:lolololol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's korean for "I have emphysema".

  107. MOD PARENT OFF-TOPIC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blatently off-topic MS bashing gets modded up yet again by Slashdork moderors.

    Talk about double standards!

    Yay Slashdot!

    1. Re:MOD PARENT OFF-TOPIC by ydrol · · Score: 1

      I submitted it as a story (in neutral language) a full 6 hours before another was approved, and it was rejected. (grouse grouse) So I hooked it on here because I thought /. readers might be interested, . (as you can see by the number of comments on the official thread). I found it (on news:uk.comp.vendors) before it appeared on any common news sites, so I though it would be a good oppertunity for /. to get in there first. It was originally modded off-topic fwiw!

  108. Macintosh Case Mod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hardly worth the effort of replying. Take a case from a $25 antique and stuff it full of generic PC junk. Add a cornball logo and date sticker. Voila. Crap.

  109. constructive advice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Since you were on a budget & couldn't lay down a big chunk of change, now you might have a new opportunity. pull out your server logs (see if mr. mirror can too) and start searching for a sponsor. It might be a little late for the slot loading dvd drive, but you should be able to find someone willing to hand over a small flatscreen, some heatshrink tubing and if you're willing to put in the effort, the internals from a newer Mac.

    So to reiterate:
    Step 1. Beg for freebies
    Step 2. Install said freebies
    Step 3. Get featured on a Slashback
    Step 4. ???
    Step 5. Profit!

    P.S. You deserve props for the idea, but please god use heat shrink tubing or something to calm down that ball of PSU wiring in the front.

  110. OT: modified1984 commercial on Apple's site! by dubbayu_d_40 · · Score: 1
    I just noticed last night, /. rejected the article so I guess it's old news. But for those behind the curve like me, they've modified "1984". The girl is wearing an iPOD.

    http://www.apple.com/hardware/ads/1984/

  111. Waaaait!! by blugu64 · · Score: 1

    This may be a duplicate post, BUT that isn't the mac introcuced back in '84! That's a mac plus that came out in either 86 or 87 (kinda rusty on that fact).

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  112. It can be by pathological+liar · · Score: 1

    Don't tell me you've forgotten A/UX?

  113. finding a good LCD screen is hard by phelddagrif · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Have you ever tried to find an LCD that will fit the interior of the mac? First off the old screen mount in the face plate is rounded off to fit a CRT. So first you have to grind that to be flat or use filler to extend the monitor hole so that is is flat.
    Then you have to find and purchase a bare LCD and an LCD controller. Which from my research is around $650 USD for an 8.4" LCD. So why not find something that has a 10" or 8.4" LCD screen. Okay, but then you're looking at the super highend of portable DVD players and they aint cheap. Furthermore, they have propritary controllers. It's really quite hard and expensive to do the mod with an LCD screen.
    I was going to do that exact mod about 5 months ago but with the LCD. However, once I found out the price of the LCD I gave up on the project. As the LCD screen would be more expensive than the rest of the computer.

    1. Re:finding a good LCD screen is hard by hatrisc · · Score: 1

      if you're looking for more of the mac plus feel, you should probably be using a black and white lcd anyway. in which case, they are much much cheaper.

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    2. Re:finding a good LCD screen is hard by beallj · · Score: 1

      From where? I'd been thinking of doing something like this, but I couldn't find the B&W LCD.

    3. Re:finding a good LCD screen is hard by Steveftoth · · Score: 1

      Dude, you're building a custom computer, do you really think it was going to be cheap?

      If you're not going to use off the shelf componenets as they were designed to be used then it's going to get expensive and fast.

    4. Re:finding a good LCD screen is hard by hatrisc · · Score: 1

      check out ebay. you also may be able to rig up an old laptop screen, though it might be more difficult.
      also search and check out car pc projects. alot of times they'll link to places where they get their lcd stuff. for instance dashpc.com links to earthlcd.com which isn't exactly cheap, but worth a look.

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  114. OS X in a compact case? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's been done - check out the i-30 from Japan.

  115. Super Bowl year refers to the previous season by sulli · · Score: 1
    The 1983 Super Bowl (XVIII, Raiders 38, Redskins 9, Tampa, FL, then the worst blowout in Super Bowl History, MVP Marcus Allen) was in fact held in 1984. I remember distinctly seeing the 1984 ad and being quite impressed, even in the midst of my fury at the Skins for losing so badly.

    Super Bowls are customarily referred to by the year fo the season they follow, not the calendar year in which they are held.

    Maybe Apple will run a new ad in this year's Super Bowl? (I pick Pats to win but would love to see a Panther upset.)

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  116. Nice work destroying a Mac. by mrseigen · · Score: 1

    Congrats, you blew open a valuable antique for the ability to run Wintendo on it.

  117. Lighten up... by Johnny+Go+Faster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For Christ's sake, while most of us were jacking off to internet porn, this kid tried to make something. Crummy or not, at least he's DOING something more than supersizing his fries and b*tching that there's nothing on TV. So easy to nay-say. Cheers to anyone who does a case mod, regardless of how stupid or simplistic it may be. The rest of us just go out and buy our cases, cars, homes, clothes, everything pre-made and tailored to tastes "prescribed" by marketers. I a big /. fan, but sometimes you guys really suck.

  118. WRONG WRONG WRONG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously you are not a football fan. Totally inaccurate to call it the 1983 Super Bowl. In all my years, I've never heard anyone call Super Bowls by the regular season year.

  119. bah by ShadowRage · · Score: 1

    if they wanted to make it l33t..
    they should have modified a flatpanel display to work in the mac screen,
    and mod the bios to show the 1984 2004 logo on bootup (like many OEM's do on their hardware)

    now that would have been cool

    I'm tempted to mod my apple IIe now...

  120. Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The article said it played during the 1983 Super Bowl. Doesn't make it any more right just because it was played on some obscure station late at night in 1983, which I am sure the submitter did not know.

    If you don't know WTF u r talking about, don't post.

  121. I'm disappointed. by slasher999 · · Score: 1

    I was hoping for something interesting, not just a bunch of PC parts stuffed into the Mac with a seperate monitor connected to it. And then they run Windows on it? Pitiful waste of time, IMHO. I would like to see someone take the original Mac with all the original hardware - or as much as possible - and do something with it. Maybe load some *nix based OS on it and make it a web server or something. But not Windows!

  122. Apple should take note by Orion+Blastar · · Score: 1

    and bring back the original Macintosh case for 2004. Maybe make a few mods to it, like translucent plastic in 5 different colors. :)

    Use a G3 or G4 CPU and have it run OSX. Use a color 9 inch LCD screen. No floppy but DVD/CDRW drive. Price it low enough to be affordable, like $999USD or something. Would be nice if it was $700USD or lower to compete with the low cost WINTEL PC systems.

    Ah well, at least that PC in a Mac Plus can run Darwin. :)

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    1. Re:Apple should take note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Use a color 9 inch LCD screen. ... Price it low enough to be affordable, like $999USD or something.

      The last thing Apple needs is to be sued by a bunch of people who went blind from using the machine you propose.

      OS X more or less requires a 1024x768 minimum screen resolution. If they could achieve that in a 9" screen, you'd have to practically attach the display to your head, positioned a few inches in front of your face, to be able to see what you were doing.

  123. 314th post! by -kertrats- · · Score: 0, Redundant

    You see, this post is just as pointless as that mod.

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    1. Re:314th post! by Primotech · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Exactly like your existence.

  124. Frankensteen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I had plans as ambitious as the great Dr. Frankenstein. I was going to give a dead soul life once again."

    Well of COURSE he had to put an Abbie Normal brain in the thing!

  125. Once and for all by Primotech · · Score: 0

    Before I am bumped off the mainpage and am forgotten forever, let this be my last stand.

    You are all (mostly) great people, but a bit overzealous. And while the vast majority of you are die-hard, tried and true geeks, most of you (and I apologize to whoever this doesn't pertain to) obviously didn't pass Middle School English class. I base this claim not on a lack of coherence alone, but in the pure fact that you brought up points that were a)questioned before and responded to by myself, and b)were present right in the article itself. I just expected more from you.

    Now, to deal with the points brought up. I've answered the majority of these before, but since this will be my last post ont the matter, this shall be it.

    1. The SuperBowl issue Upon checking superbowl.com, and seeing the date of the SuperBowl to be February 1st, I immediatly assumed that this was the set date for the SuperBowl to be played. Evidently, I was mistaken. But in seeing that, I jumped to the conclusion, that, unless Apple did indeed figure out a way to time travel, the SuperBowl that the commercial was aired on was the 1983 SuperBowl, played in February, 1983. So, again, I was wrong. And upon further research this morning on superbowl.com, the game was in fact played in January, 1984.

    However, does that make it wrong that I called it the 1983 SuperBowl? True, it was played in 1984, but this was the 1983 season. Because I am no football expert, I don't know how it is commonly referred to.

    So, this one is a toss-up. But furthermore, who really cares?

    2. Using a Macintosh Pro case

    You guys get this one. After completing the project and writing the article, I did realize that it was in fact not an original Mac. A bit late, nonetheless, I pressed on. I knew someone here would notice. But I did it anyone. Does that make me a bad person? That's for you to decide.

    Point for you
    I must leave now, I shall finish this when I return home.

    1. Re:Once and for all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, you seriously need to learn how to take criticism. Of course, slashdot isn't exactly the place for well-thought criticism, but seriously...

      Don't ever think of running for public office.

    2. Re:Once and for all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Err, considering the extent of some of the comments, I took all criticism quite well. Some of you brought up extremely good, valid points. And I valued that, and thank you for it. Others jumped to immediate conclusions without actually using their ability to read.

      As for politics, never. My father is a judge, and I hear the horror stories every day.

  126. You can tell we have nothing but tech nerds here by unassimilatible · · Score: 1
    "We shall prevail"- Creepy guy with glasses on-screen in commercial

    Uh, that "creepy guy" is Big Brother. My gawd, does anyone read anymore? 1984? Hello?

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  127. What do you mean by DVD? by twitter · · Score: 1
    Just curious why you call DVD "soon to be obsolete"

    There are about 8 diferent DVD "standards" out there, none of them have a writer than can store more than 4.7GB. While that might be nice to have in the short term, put it into some central box with a nice network card. It's so much easier to do things that way than it is to have a DVD for every computer in the house. This little Mac is a specialty box and should get it's media files over the network. A CD or DVD can be used to set it up, if you don't broadband, but it's fairly useless after than, except for movies. While it would be cool to run a big screen with an old Mac box, you can get your movie from your local network.

    At the very least, they could have used a front loading DVD player and have extended the orignial slot. I would have left it alone.

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  128. Re:Jan. 22, 1984 by Pope · · Score: 1
    did geeks watch football back in 1984

    Are you kidding, most of the people posting on slashdot weren't even alive yet! :)

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  129. This is wrong on many counts. by Maverick+Hunter+Zero · · Score: 2, Informative

    First, that's not an original Mac, it's a Mac Plus. Secondly, if you wanna see the real thing in action, check out my (shameless plug) Apple Museum. I have a fully functional Mac 128k up there as well as an Apple /// and a Lisa 2/10, both of which work flawlessly as well.

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  130. No more hints at Apple's death, please by invisik · · Score: 1

    The thing looks like a tombstone! Sorry, don't like...

    -m

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  131. Sacrilege? Sellout! Where's the pissing Calvin? by BigBlockMopar · · Score: 1

    It would have been far cooler if he'd fitted a TFT screen instead of his window. Come to think of it, it would have been better all round if he'd got a modern mac, taken it apart and fitted the gubbins inside the old case.

    Yup! The PC motherboard is just wrong.

    And what about the Apple 1984/2004 vinyl sign where the screen used to be?

    The presence of that sign, with that motherboard visible, implies that Apple has sold out to IBM and the whole PC/AT architecture, in the mere 20 years since the Superbowl ad.

    If he'd wanted the insult to be complete, he'd have used Calvin pissing on the Apple.

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  132. Rusted out 1984 Accord - Powered by Kia! by BigBlockMopar · · Score: 1

    This is the moral equivalent of taking a 1984 Honda Accord and packing the engine and transmission from a 2004 Kia Rio into it - pointless in all aspects.

    Heheh... Where's dude's "Powered by Kia" sticker across the windshield of the Accord?

    (Actually, all we see around here is "Powered by Honda" across the windshields of rusted-out 1984 Accord rice "rockets". I just want to scream to them, of *COURSE* it's powered by Honda, it's a Honda, you *idiot*! At least the Kia motor would demonstrate mechanical, welding and electronic skill, if not intelligence or taste in cars.)

    Good swap that I liked, and got to drool over: 1984 Dodge Aries 4-door sedan, with a 1969 Chrysler 440 (7.2L) 6-pack, driving the rear wheels. Tellin' a friend as we pulled into a car show: "There's something with a big motor around here, but I don't see what it is... wait a minute, that K-Car in front of us has a differential and wide rear tires in the back!" Questionable car, subtle, lightweight, makes a *great* sleeper with a real motor under the hood. Guy was telling me later that it runs in the low 10s on the quarter mile. [wiping drool off keyboard...]

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  133. Re:You can tell we have nothing but tech nerds her by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 1

    You don't know that, actually. After all, this commercial is not a verbatim adaptation of the Orwell's novel. It's a free fantasy around this theme created by an artist of no lesser magnitude - Ridley Scott himself (how come people call themselves nerds and omit an excellent oportunity for a "Blade Runner" reference?). Actually, you don't know who the guy on the screen is and who are the bald-headed (real life London skinheads were employed as extras) people listening to his speech. Some viewers describe them as "prisoners", some others as "storm troopers". The script refered to them as "drones", which only adds to ambiguity. The speech of the "guy on the screen" (who might or might not be the orwellian Big Brother) is also rather puzzling:

    My friends, each of you is a single cell in the great body of the State. And today, that great body has purged itself of parasites. We have triumphed over the unprincipled dissemination of facts. The thugs and wreckers have been cast out. And the poisonous weeds of disinformation have been consigned to the dustbin of history. Let each and every cell rejoice! For today we celebrate the first, glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directive! We have created, for the first time in all history, a garden of pure ideology, where each worker may bloom secure from the pests of contradictory and confusing truths. Our Unification of Thought is a more powerful weapon than any fleet or army on Earth! We are one people. With one will. One resolve. One cause. Our enemies shall talk themselves to death. And we will bury them with their own confusion! We shall prevail!

    It's not written by Orwell. It's written by the guy who gave us "Alien" and "Blade Runner". And like these movies - it's seems simple by face value, but... is Deckard a replicant or not? ;-)

  134. Oh pul-eeze by unassimilatible · · Score: 1

    You don't need a PhD in English to know it's Big Brother. Read the book. The commercial alludes to "1984." Obviously, Big Brother is on the screen, representing...Bill Gates. Gawd u nerds love to argue.

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  135. More Shocking Vandallism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you've got a strong stomach visit Overclockers where you'll find the ultimate desecration of "The World's Fastest Personal Computer". The site may or may not be down by now... to the perpetrator: "Just wait till your father gets home my boy!"