What a bunch of whining, iHating bulshit artists. Everyone else comes out with shit that no one buys - because it's shit - and all you can do is make excuses for bad products and eschew Apple for getting it right.
Thank goodness the market doesn't listen to tech-starved crybabies like you. Damn shame and embarrassment to the real tech-savvy folks that try to make technology accessible the masses.
Jerk-offs like you clowns just want to keep it exclusive for some twisted belief of self-importance.
How many times must the market constantly prove you guys wrong before you realize it's not Apple that's the enemy but your own ignorance and the sheer stupidity of Apple's competitors for not having a clue what the consumer wants?
And as great as your results are, enjoy the money savings while you can. Fuel taxes is what maintains the roads and highways.
Essentially, I'm subsidizing you. One way or another Uncle Sam will eventually end the free-ride that electric/hybrid owners have and come up with some kind of beauracracy that will tax you to pay your fair share of "road tax".
These posts should be framed and posted for the world to see. Android fans actually making a sound, logical, lucid point as to why Android is not for most joe-consumers. I tip my hat to you.
Don't necessarily blame the programmers. Just as much responsibility falls on management for failing to delegate the proper areas to the proper people. Just because programmers have to know a lot about computers, management will think they will save money by having those same people do design work that should go to a design department.
I've lost track how many times other departments come to me(us) regarding a re-design of a web page. Sounding like a broken record, we are constantly telling them to "Talk to graphics design, we only work on back-end stuff". Time and time again this occurs. It's very frustrating. Then when schedules fall behind, we get blamed for not getting the design done, even though it was never our job to do it.
And precisely how do you know what Amazon's Fire does? It's still not officially out yet and of those that have tried it, its deficiencies are beginning to show.
Two types of consumers will buy the Fire. Those focused strictly on price, and iHaters.
The price folks will think it's "just like an iPad" and realize after the return-period has expired that it is nothing like how they advertised it (like most electronics) and while some may find use for it as a glorified e-reader, most will end up gathering dust in some desk drawer.
iHaters will buy it and attempt to root it because they don't care about the Amazon experience. They just want to get a cheap(er) Android tablet. These folks are few and far between so after consumer demand falls after the novelty wears off, this group of people will not be enough to sustain it and it will get discontinued.
This is of course just a guess, but history so far seems to indicate another has-been.
Typical fandroid responses. "Been available on Android for long".... Kind of like how the android community preached the XOOM in all its multi-core, NVidia GPU glory, and it could not even outperform a 1-year-old single-core iPad. Apple gets the hardware and software working together like a swiss watch. It's the same tired responses from tech-heads that they refuse to accept. Android slaps together a bunch of half-baked solutions, supporters say "see!! we did it first", and cringes when iOS does the same thing, except it actually works and makes it simple for the joe-consumer to use.
What's even more sad about these whiners is that they think consumers really give a rat's-ass what's under the hood of their phone. I've had both iOS and Android phones. Android is great for tinkerers and tech-heads that want absolute control over their devices. Everyone else (where the money is at) just want a toaster, and a darn-good toaster. And the/. dickheads here simply label those folks as too stupid to deserve using a smartphone if they are unable (or have no desire) to root their phone. Pathetic.
That's why the iPhone is the single best selling (and most profitable) individual smartphone out there. Because it works well.
They want to continue to behave childishly by calling me a fanboy, it's because I have better things to do with my time and life than to live in a basement and manage phone resources and overclock phone CPU's.
"relatively minor hardware upgrades"?? Did you even know what they did under the hood? The iP4 design is already a huge hit with consumers - much to the dismay of fantards everywhere. They ran with that design (which makes case manufacturers happy) and put in the iPad2 A5 chip which still outperforms anything the competitors have, GPU performance 7-9 times faster than the already-impressive iP4, the nicest camera yet, and with iOS5 this is is a solid update for a phone.
Sure... and then Samsung comes out with their iSuck clone called "iSwallow". Looks and functions exactly alike, yet takes it all the way down the throat like a true whiner should.
Nonsense... this just shows your cluelessness. If you want a stock that does nothing but go up, then I have stock in Unicorn Inc. I'll sell you.
Fact: AAPL has been consistently going up for ages now. They have a great lineup now, and for the foreseeable future. They have a ridiculous amount of cash on hand, and time-and-time again the bitching of/.'rs preaching the "Apple is doomed" mantra has been proven wrong.
So it goes down 3%. BFD! Considering how high my AAPL holdings have gone up since I bought a bunch more - during the 2008 meltdown - ignoring the whining and bitching from folks like you about wasting my money, I am quite happy with the current level and after phantards like you finish your weekly anti-apple propaganda, the stock will continue to lead the industry. Continue ranting, I'll continue cashing in. Buh-bye...
The thinner a laptop gets, the more complicated it gets to keep everything cool and compact. That engineering costs serious money and if not done right, the manufacturer will end up getting a huge boatload of returns.
There are heat issues, durability issues, etc.
Apple's build quality is not just good, it's the best, and Apple has the highest customer service ratings than all the other players.
That's the reality. The moment people talk about "rooting" and "hacking" their tablet, they are already lost virtually the entire customer base. These tinkerers need to get off their shaky pedestal and realize that the largest and most profitable market is made up of consumers that could truly not care any less about the ability to root their device and as to how "open" it is compared to Apple's walled-garden. That market is made up predominantly of people that want simplicity (not complexity) in their life, they want what is essentially a "toaster" in that it "just works", and all the parts that make up the whole - software and hardware, and apps - work fluidly and seamlessly.
Even the TouchPad firesale is made up predominantly of tech-heads, geeks, and nerds that simply want that "cheap" table to either convert into an Android tablet or use as reading material on the toilet. Unless, you're an entrepreneur and are simply buying it to put on Ebay for 2-3 times the price and sell to.... you guessed it.. the same folks I mentioned in the beginning of this.
There is no "tablet" market, only an iPad market. So until the industry realizes why the iPad is so successful, and also figure out the consumers that are wanting it (most are not iSheep), they will continue to crash and burn.
As smart as many/.'s here "think" they are, they are really having a hard time figuring that out.
Not exactly... Perhaps he did do a third act indirectly.
He saved Apple
Bought George Lucas' graphics division and out came Pixar
Because of Pixar, definitely saved Disney's backside buy having them buy Pixar and no personally saving Disney's film industry and pocketing 7% of Disney's stock!
So would this qualify??
I'm going to miss Steve Jobs. He really is the last of the special breed of luminaries.
God Speed Steve. I hope long life follows you, if only as the Chairman. You'll be missed.
Of course. Let's all make a statement by refusing to purchase any products from the following companies (from Wikipedia) since AC's tend to conveniently ignore them while making it sound it's only Apple:
I'm from San Francisco. That guy had more than one knife on him. He rolled the dice the moment he threw the knife at the officer. Nothing to read here, move along.
Apple creates iPhone. Slashdot lapdog AC's like you say "It has no keyboard. Will never sell!" Sells untold millions, for billions of dollars, and now suddenly everyone makes an iPhone clone. You now say "But Android is better".
Apple creates iPad. Whiners like you criticize it as "Just an oversized iPod Touch named after feminine products". Sells untold millions, for billions of dollars, and now suddenly everyone makes an iPad clone.
Where Android licensees compete for scraps at the bottom of the barrel, Apple commands a majority share of all mobile profits.
Smart people have bought AAPL and profited handsomely. You on the other hand hope to bootleg Apps from the comfort of your parent's basement.
You're just a whiny little brat, kicking and screaming that you missed the boat. Apple does in fact do their own R&D, and from the looks of it, Apple does the R&D for Samsung, HTC, Motorola, and .
You cannot make any valid arguments to counter Apple's success so you resort to ad hominem because you know you really have no clue.
This is a recycling program. Not a market. It's highly doubtful that any machine returned this way will be refurbished and resold unless it's a fairly new(er) machine in full working condition. Beats throwing it in the dumpster when all the precious metals (gold, copper, etc..) can be recycled and reused elsewhere.
I remember watching a program on TV not too long ago where they said that recycling old computers and electronics to extract gold is actually more profitable and more efficient than trying to mine the gold ore out of the ground nowadays.
If it's gathering dust in your house and never used, may as well get rid of it this way, or determine if selling it, dealing with the headaches and time to sell it is worthwhile.
Either way, it's good that Apple provides this as a free service.
Android fans are akin to people (like AC's) who will get what they can and avoid actually paying for it due to some ego-inflated, false-sense of entitlement. They they think they are being 'cool' but don't realize that, by doing so, they are just being a tool.
Bullshit. Samsung from day one has done nothing but copy Apple's ecosystem. From icon design, peripherals, GUI interface (phones), etc.
Before Apple came into the field, everyone had 20+ years to come up with a phone / tablet design to shake the industry. Even with with the few players that gave up quickly, everyone else did NOTHING!
Now Apple comes in with their iPhone and iPad and SUDDENLY everyone's products now looks like an iPhone and iPad. That is no coincidence at all. When the iPhone was just an introduction back in 2007 before it shipped 6-months later, even Steve Jobs said they "And boy, did we patent it!". Why??? Because NO ONE ELSE had anything even remotely similar to it, and good for them!
What happened to designing your own stuff??? Even Samsung's CEO publicly admitted having to hold back their Galaxy Tab after the iPad2 introduction so that they could essentially copy its features.
And yet you fandroid-huggers continue to spin the story that Apple is the one at fault.
"Who cares if everyone is copying Apple's stuff. Apple should just keep innovating to stay ahead!" - Wrong! Apple can (and should) protect both its current IP and continue the same path of R&D that has made it hugely successful. This does not give copy-shops like Samsung an open-invitation to simply ride on the back of Apple's R&D.
Slashdot's Android fanboys are just delusional. It's no surprise that the Android OS itself is now in front of the gun barrel with patent and licensing violations, including Google's own internal messages that they knew Android's Java implementation was essentially stolen.
This is not bad for consumers. This is actually good for them because it will force Samsung to ACTUALLY COME UP WITH ITS OWN STUFF! Who knows? It might even be better!
Nonsense. Apple does nothing to advertise their next product. They are chided for their extreme privacy which pretty much leaves it to the media and tech-heads to guess, doing it enough so that after saying it enough times, they begin to believe it is true. Apple does nothing.
It's also fanboyism from BOTH sides that contributes to your post. I lost track of how many times folks yell at consumers buying an iPhone near the end of Apple's yearly cycle, and others bitching about people buying a new iPhone on day one, claiming they should never buy a first-generation Apple product, blah, blah.. whatever.
What Apple has provided is a product that the majority of its customers love and created a halo-effect so that people do look forward to their next product offering. Any other phone company would sell their first-born to have that kind of customer loyalty.
How can any one Android maker get a following of that magnitude when there are so many different phones and configurations? You can't get excited for more than five minutes and expect loyalty when there's a new phone every other day coming out. If Apple pulled this kind of shit, you folks would be ripping on Apple for "gouging" consumers and paying an Apple tax.
Of course... because it's not like HTC would try to then sue the other makers of Android phones of violating their patents right?? HTC might be in the mood to start thinning the Android herd a bit.
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What a bunch of whining, iHating bulshit artists. Everyone else comes out with shit that no one buys - because it's shit - and all you can do is make excuses for bad products and eschew Apple for getting it right.
Thank goodness the market doesn't listen to tech-starved crybabies like you. Damn shame and embarrassment to the real tech-savvy folks that try to make technology accessible the masses.
Jerk-offs like you clowns just want to keep it exclusive for some twisted belief of self-importance.
How many times must the market constantly prove you guys wrong before you realize it's not Apple that's the enemy but your own ignorance and the sheer stupidity of Apple's competitors for not having a clue what the consumer wants?
And as great as your results are, enjoy the money savings while you can. Fuel taxes is what maintains the roads and highways.
Essentially, I'm subsidizing you. One way or another Uncle Sam will eventually end the free-ride that electric/hybrid owners have and come up with some kind of beauracracy that will tax you to pay your fair share of "road tax".
These posts should be framed and posted for the world to see. Android fans actually making a sound, logical, lucid point as to why Android is not for most joe-consumers. I tip my hat to you.
Don't necessarily blame the programmers. Just as much responsibility falls on management for failing to delegate the proper areas to the proper people. Just because programmers have to know a lot about computers, management will think they will save money by having those same people do design work that should go to a design department.
I've lost track how many times other departments come to me(us) regarding a re-design of a web page. Sounding like a broken record, we are constantly telling them to "Talk to graphics design, we only work on back-end stuff". Time and time again this occurs. It's very frustrating. Then when schedules fall behind, we get blamed for not getting the design done, even though it was never our job to do it.
Programmers design code. Cut them some slack.
And precisely how do you know what Amazon's Fire does? It's still not officially out yet and of those that have tried it, its deficiencies are beginning to show.
Two types of consumers will buy the Fire. Those focused strictly on price, and iHaters.
The price folks will think it's "just like an iPad" and realize after the return-period has expired that it is nothing like how they advertised it (like most electronics) and while some may find use for it as a glorified e-reader, most will end up gathering dust in some desk drawer.
iHaters will buy it and attempt to root it because they don't care about the Amazon experience. They just want to get a cheap(er) Android tablet. These folks are few and far between so after consumer demand falls after the novelty wears off, this group of people will not be enough to sustain it and it will get discontinued.
This is of course just a guess, but history so far seems to indicate another has-been.
Hey AC, keep your whining down. All that cussing from the basement may wake up your parents on the top floor.
Typical fandroid responses. "Been available on Android for long".... Kind of like how the android community preached the XOOM in all its multi-core, NVidia GPU glory, and it could not even outperform a 1-year-old single-core iPad. Apple gets the hardware and software working together like a swiss watch. It's the same tired responses from tech-heads that they refuse to accept. Android slaps together a bunch of half-baked solutions, supporters say "see!! we did it first", and cringes when iOS does the same thing, except it actually works and makes it simple for the joe-consumer to use.
What's even more sad about these whiners is that they think consumers really give a rat's-ass what's under the hood of their phone. I've had both iOS and Android phones. Android is great for tinkerers and tech-heads that want absolute control over their devices. Everyone else (where the money is at) just want a toaster, and a darn-good toaster. And the /. dickheads here simply label those folks as too stupid to deserve using a smartphone if they are unable (or have no desire) to root their phone. Pathetic.
That's why the iPhone is the single best selling (and most profitable) individual smartphone out there. Because it works well.
They want to continue to behave childishly by calling me a fanboy, it's because I have better things to do with my time and life than to live in a basement and manage phone resources and overclock phone CPU's.
"relatively minor hardware upgrades"?? Did you even know what they did under the hood? The iP4 design is already a huge hit with consumers - much to the dismay of fantards everywhere. They ran with that design (which makes case manufacturers happy) and put in the iPad2 A5 chip which still outperforms anything the competitors have, GPU performance 7-9 times faster than the already-impressive iP4, the nicest camera yet, and with iOS5 this is is a solid update for a phone.
"minor hardware upgrades".... wutever..
Sure... and then Samsung comes out with their iSuck clone called "iSwallow". Looks and functions exactly alike, yet takes it all the way down the throat like a true whiner should.
Nonsense... this just shows your cluelessness. If you want a stock that does nothing but go up, then I have stock in Unicorn Inc. I'll sell you.
Fact: AAPL has been consistently going up for ages now. They have a great lineup now, and for the foreseeable future. They have a ridiculous amount of cash on hand, and time-and-time again the bitching of /.'rs preaching the "Apple is doomed" mantra has been proven wrong.
So it goes down 3%. BFD! Considering how high my AAPL holdings have gone up since I bought a bunch more - during the 2008 meltdown - ignoring the whining and bitching from folks like you about wasting my money, I am quite happy with the current level and after phantards like you finish your weekly anti-apple propaganda, the stock will continue to lead the industry. Continue ranting, I'll continue cashing in. Buh-bye...
Of course this is news. Although I'm sure all the whining AC's would change their tunes if it were an Android phone.
Way to go AC. Sling verbal insults at the very same people you want help from. Does that work method work for everything else in your life?
The thinner a laptop gets, the more complicated it gets to keep everything cool and compact. That engineering costs serious money and if not done right, the manufacturer will end up getting a huge boatload of returns.
There are heat issues, durability issues, etc.
Apple's build quality is not just good, it's the best, and Apple has the highest customer service ratings than all the other players.
They are simply a bunch of whining crybabies that got left out of the AAPL party. Pity them... oh wait... never mind.
Don't burst AC-tard's bubble. In this case, the "Betamax" that he thinks is the iPad did in fact end up being the consumer's choice.
That's the reality. The moment people talk about "rooting" and "hacking" their tablet, they are already lost virtually the entire customer base. These tinkerers need to get off their shaky pedestal and realize that the largest and most profitable market is made up of consumers that could truly not care any less about the ability to root their device and as to how "open" it is compared to Apple's walled-garden. That market is made up predominantly of people that want simplicity (not complexity) in their life, they want what is essentially a "toaster" in that it "just works", and all the parts that make up the whole - software and hardware, and apps - work fluidly and seamlessly.
Even the TouchPad firesale is made up predominantly of tech-heads, geeks, and nerds that simply want that "cheap" table to either convert into an Android tablet or use as reading material on the toilet. Unless, you're an entrepreneur and are simply buying it to put on Ebay for 2-3 times the price and sell to.... you guessed it.. the same folks I mentioned in the beginning of this.
There is no "tablet" market, only an iPad market. So until the industry realizes why the iPad is so successful, and also figure out the consumers that are wanting it (most are not iSheep), they will continue to crash and burn.
As smart as many /.'s here "think" they are, they are really having a hard time figuring that out.
Not exactly... Perhaps he did do a third act indirectly.
He saved Apple
Bought George Lucas' graphics division and out came Pixar
Because of Pixar, definitely saved Disney's backside buy having them buy Pixar and no personally saving Disney's film industry and pocketing 7% of Disney's stock!
So would this qualify??
I'm going to miss Steve Jobs. He really is the last of the special breed of luminaries.
God Speed Steve. I hope long life follows you, if only as the Chairman. You'll be missed.
Of course. Let's all make a statement by refusing to purchase any products from the following companies (from Wikipedia) since AC's tend to conveniently ignore them while making it sound it's only Apple:
Acer, Amazon, Intel, Cisco, HP, Nintendo, Nokia, Microsoft, Sony, Vizio
Let's see how long your crusade lasts!
I'm from San Francisco. That guy had more than one knife on him. He rolled the dice the moment he threw the knife at the officer. Nothing to read here, move along.
Apple creates iPhone. Slashdot lapdog AC's like you say "It has no keyboard. Will never sell!" Sells untold millions, for billions of dollars, and now suddenly everyone makes an iPhone clone. You now say "But Android is better".
Apple creates iPad. Whiners like you criticize it as "Just an oversized iPod Touch named after feminine products". Sells untold millions, for billions of dollars, and now suddenly everyone makes an iPad clone.
Where Android licensees compete for scraps at the bottom of the barrel, Apple commands a majority share of all mobile profits.
Smart people have bought AAPL and profited handsomely. You on the other hand hope to bootleg Apps from the comfort of your parent's basement.
You're just a whiny little brat, kicking and screaming that you missed the boat. Apple does in fact do their own R&D, and from the looks of it, Apple does the R&D for Samsung, HTC, Motorola, and .
You cannot make any valid arguments to counter Apple's success so you resort to ad hominem because you know you really have no clue.
This is a recycling program. Not a market. It's highly doubtful that any machine returned this way will be refurbished and resold unless it's a fairly new(er) machine in full working condition. Beats throwing it in the dumpster when all the precious metals (gold, copper, etc..) can be recycled and reused elsewhere.
I remember watching a program on TV not too long ago where they said that recycling old computers and electronics to extract gold is actually more profitable and more efficient than trying to mine the gold ore out of the ground nowadays.
If it's gathering dust in your house and never used, may as well get rid of it this way, or determine if selling it, dealing with the headaches and time to sell it is worthwhile.
Either way, it's good that Apple provides this as a free service.
Android fans are akin to people (like AC's) who will get what they can and avoid actually paying for it due to some ego-inflated, false-sense of entitlement. They they think they are being 'cool' but don't realize that, by doing so, they are just being a tool.
Fixed that for you.
Bullshit. Samsung from day one has done nothing but copy Apple's ecosystem. From icon design, peripherals, GUI interface (phones), etc.
Before Apple came into the field, everyone had 20+ years to come up with a phone / tablet design to shake the industry. Even with with the few players that gave up quickly, everyone else did NOTHING!
Now Apple comes in with their iPhone and iPad and SUDDENLY everyone's products now looks like an iPhone and iPad. That is no coincidence at all. When the iPhone was just an introduction back in 2007 before it shipped 6-months later, even Steve Jobs said they "And boy, did we patent it!". Why??? Because NO ONE ELSE had anything even remotely similar to it, and good for them!
What happened to designing your own stuff??? Even Samsung's CEO publicly admitted having to hold back their Galaxy Tab after the iPad2 introduction so that they could essentially copy its features.
And yet you fandroid-huggers continue to spin the story that Apple is the one at fault.
"Who cares if everyone is copying Apple's stuff. Apple should just keep innovating to stay ahead!" - Wrong! Apple can (and should) protect both its current IP and continue the same path of R&D that has made it hugely successful. This does not give copy-shops like Samsung an open-invitation to simply ride on the back of Apple's R&D.
Slashdot's Android fanboys are just delusional. It's no surprise that the Android OS itself is now in front of the gun barrel with patent and licensing violations, including Google's own internal messages that they knew Android's Java implementation was essentially stolen.
This is not bad for consumers. This is actually good for them because it will force Samsung to ACTUALLY COME UP WITH ITS OWN STUFF! Who knows? It might even be better!
Spin your way out of that.
Nonsense. Apple does nothing to advertise their next product. They are chided for their extreme privacy which pretty much leaves it to the media and tech-heads to guess, doing it enough so that after saying it enough times, they begin to believe it is true. Apple does nothing.
It's also fanboyism from BOTH sides that contributes to your post. I lost track of how many times folks yell at consumers buying an iPhone near the end of Apple's yearly cycle, and others bitching about people buying a new iPhone on day one, claiming they should never buy a first-generation Apple product, blah, blah.. whatever.
What Apple has provided is a product that the majority of its customers love and created a halo-effect so that people do look forward to their next product offering. Any other phone company would sell their first-born to have that kind of customer loyalty.
How can any one Android maker get a following of that magnitude when there are so many different phones and configurations? You can't get excited for more than five minutes and expect loyalty when there's a new phone every other day coming out. If Apple pulled this kind of shit, you folks would be ripping on Apple for "gouging" consumers and paying an Apple tax.
Of course... because it's not like HTC would try to then sue the other makers of Android phones of violating their patents right??
HTC might be in the mood to start thinning the Android herd a bit.