This decision hasn't even happened. This is a factually inaccurate account of this story posted yesterday by NewYorkCountryLawyer. By way of synopsis: The judge denied Capitol Records' motion to enjoin ReDigi (stop them selling Capitol Records licensed media). Nothing more. The case continues in two weeks.
17 lives lost in the last 50 years of U.S. space exploration really is not too bad
Agreed. Now, what is the ratio of deaths to activities undertaken? By that, I mean that the FDA will have done thousands of risky things in 50 years; How many has NASA done? Are we talking orders of magnitude difference? If NASA has 17 deaths over 20 activities, and the FDA has 300 deaths over 6000, it's not so clear cut a distinction anymore.
And what is being sold by ReDigi is the right to access a file stored upon their cloud storage service which has been offered for sale by the original owner. The file itself is the original taken from the owner, and transferred to the purchaser.
The file leaves the sellers PC for cloud storage; It is deleted from the seller's PC by the client software. There is only one copy of the file. The file is assigned a unique identifier to prevent duplicates being sold. The identifier is assigned to the owner's account so they may access the file. When the file is marked for sale and thereby sold, the unique ID is assigned to the buyers' account; The file itself is not copied, moved, duplicated, shifted, or anything else. The new account may access that very same uncopied file, and the seller may not. This is the important distinction being made; The file is the same one the original owner bought the license to own, and it is this file that is on the cloud service, this file (license to own) which is purchased.
Every file uploaded to ReDigi's cloud storage service is assigned a unique identifier, allowing duplicated to be identified easily. One would presume this is a hash function, but Mr Beckerman makes reference to an identifier assigned by iTunes. Either way, this file is then deleted from your computer by the software. It is now accessible from the cloud storage service provided by ReDigi.
To sell the file, you mark it as for sale, which is a manual process (you must select the files and press I Wish To Sell These Files; It's not presumed upon upload). When purchased, the file itself is not copied anywhere else; The unique identifier assigned earlier is attributed to the purchasers account. They may now access the file, and the seller may not. No copying, other than the necessary (important word) transfer from the original owners' computer to the cloud storage service provided by ReDigi has occurred. "ReDigi cannot police the universe" as Mr Beckerman puts it. Removable devices still containing the song will be checked when connected to the PC, but other than that it's outside of ReDigi's control (just the same as if you'd copied the CD to a device then sold the CD).
An interesting point: Capitol's lawyer states that selling an iPod containing music you wish to sell is protected under First Sale doctrine. It would then follow that the buyer putting the music onto the PC is protected space shifting (as is putting music onto the iPod in the first place), and buying back the iPod minus the music would again be First Sale. Kind of like a high-tech SneakerNet.
"If you make a copy and then put it up somewhere else in order to distribute it, it isn't that particular copy anymore that you're distributing. And that is basically the whole essence of the first sale doctrine is that it didn't include the right to reproduction any more than if I had a book or CD that I could photocopy, give the copy to my friend, and then decide I don't want this book anymore, I'm going to throw the book in the garbage. That wouldn't be covered by the first sale doctrine, and neither is this. It's logically no different. "
Most cogent argument I've heard against resale of digital files. I don't agree (do read the document in full for the hypothetical iPod sale situation), but it's a damn good point.
What does one get from Biggest Loser? Don't eat so much and get off your fat ass?
I would argue that this is far more useful advice to the regular person in everyday life than watching a robot hand a nerd a sachet of soy sauce, or bouncing a laser off the moon.
To make that goal, these scientists should probably go on a retreat, spend some time on team building exercises, and practice dynamic solution strategies, so that they can build up the synergies they need to deliver agile, customer-facing world class results that deliver a genuine Six Sigma experience.
Which one? I'll agree that stock is a little bare, but Sense? Go Launcher? ADW? Regina 3D? SPB Mobile? The new ICS UI? The point of Android is you have the choice. You can choose to have it look like an iPhone, or Windows 7, or your favourite Anime, or a plate of spaghetti. It's up to you.
your loss of money on lottery tickets. It is a voluntary tax in ignorance. Facebook (and the lottery people) know that there are huge numbers of ignorant people out there who are willing to part with something valuable for something of very little (or no) value simply because they don't understand what they are parting with and what they are gaining/losing.
No. It's my choice if I want to buy a lottery ticket, and I need to go to a store which sells lottery tickets to do it. I come to Slashdot and I'm linked up with Facebook (Fuck you by the way, Geeknet) because they put that dumb button on the bottom of every story. That's my IP address linked to my website browsing preference and I've never been to Facebook.com or given them any information voluntarily. Every single site which has that button is linked to my IP address. It's sickening.
By your analogy, this is more like every store you go in to selling you a lottery ticket with each purchase, at your expense, with the choices being to accept the ticket, not visit the store, or break the till operator's hand before he hits the "Sell lottery ticket" button.
Business exist to make money, not follow rules. Even if following certain rules is a requirement to making money, it is still secondary to making money.
I don't think Microsoft / Cisco / Facebook / $Company formed with the idea of "Following the Articles of Incorporation" and just happened to make a boatload of cash on the side.
Only none of your reasons for acquittal apply here. There was no trial error and he wasn't innocent. There is no doubt as to his guilt (as there was no doubt about the guilt of Oscar Wilde either), it's just that the law that they broke was absolutely abhorrent.
Spot on, my man!
All of you guys bellowing about "civil disobedience"; These are the consequences. Get used to that idea when you use those words.
As with all things, only install apps from trusted sources, don't click accept on every pop-up box, and check the permissions requested are consistent with the functionality of the app. The same as with any other application on any other OS.
Do you apply this logic to your own network? Actually let me rephrase that. Do you apply this logic to your own possessions, property and family? Do you believe burglary victims should share part of the blame because they didn't reinforce the glass windows(security flaws) in their homes?
No, but if the burglar writes a note saying "You should really lock your doors" and leaves it on your dining table, you can't have 3-factor locking mechanisms, reinforced doors and frames, and security shutters installed and blame the perp for the cost. You should really just have locked your damn doors in the first place, for no (or very little) cost.
(as an aside, I have to admit that if I was on the Apollo 10 mission and everything was working out, I'd be tempted to yell "Fuck you, Neil!" into my radio and land on the Moon. What's NASA gonna do?)
Watch as you die on the moon because the ascent stage lacked the fuel needed to return the Lunar Module to the Command Module from the surface of the moon.
This is great if you're the person doing short-listingof candidates. If you have an HR dept staffed by monkeys in suits, they're checking boxes. "Doesn't have $Qualification1? Bin it. Has $Qualification2 but not $Qualification1? Bin it. Never mind that in the "Further information" section the candidate has listed 15+ years doing exactly the things listed in the job description, citing specific examples and demonstrating significant in-depth knowledge of the subjects. HR "doesn't do computers."
I've got over a decade in IT, but no certs. The only jobs I've gotten so far have been through friends, because they know I can do the job; They've spoken to me, I've helped them out. Now all I need to do is convince HR of the fact, and to do that I need a shitty cert which means precisely dick all to the guy actually interviewing you.
I know what you're getting at, but you would really be an activist. Protesting and revolting directly against those infringing on your rights is a core American value. Some would say there is a fine line between activism and terrorism... lately however I think the line is finer between authoritative government and terrorism.
Guy Fawkes was a terrorist. Guy Fawkes was a revolutionary.
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This decision hasn't even happened. This is a factually inaccurate account of this story posted yesterday by NewYorkCountryLawyer. By way of synopsis: The judge denied Capitol Records' motion to enjoin ReDigi (stop them selling Capitol Records licensed media). Nothing more. The case continues in two weeks.
Nothing to see here, please move along.
Looks to me like you've been RTFA. Are you new here?
Just trying to set a new, better precedent. Then again, aren't we both?
17 lives lost in the last 50 years of U.S. space exploration really is not too bad
Agreed. Now, what is the ratio of deaths to activities undertaken? By that, I mean that the FDA will have done thousands of risky things in 50 years; How many has NASA done? Are we talking orders of magnitude difference? If NASA has 17 deaths over 20 activities, and the FDA has 300 deaths over 6000, it's not so clear cut a distinction anymore.
And what is being sold by ReDigi is the right to access a file stored upon their cloud storage service which has been offered for sale by the original owner. The file itself is the original taken from the owner, and transferred to the purchaser.
The file leaves the sellers PC for cloud storage; It is deleted from the seller's PC by the client software. There is only one copy of the file. The file is assigned a unique identifier to prevent duplicates being sold. The identifier is assigned to the owner's account so they may access the file. When the file is marked for sale and thereby sold, the unique ID is assigned to the buyers' account; The file itself is not copied, moved, duplicated, shifted, or anything else. The new account may access that very same uncopied file, and the seller may not. This is the important distinction being made; The file is the same one the original owner bought the license to own, and it is this file that is on the cloud service, this file (license to own) which is purchased.
Every file uploaded to ReDigi's cloud storage service is assigned a unique identifier, allowing duplicated to be identified easily. One would presume this is a hash function, but Mr Beckerman makes reference to an identifier assigned by iTunes. Either way, this file is then deleted from your computer by the software. It is now accessible from the cloud storage service provided by ReDigi.
To sell the file, you mark it as for sale, which is a manual process (you must select the files and press I Wish To Sell These Files; It's not presumed upon upload). When purchased, the file itself is not copied anywhere else; The unique identifier assigned earlier is attributed to the purchasers account. They may now access the file, and the seller may not. No copying, other than the necessary (important word) transfer from the original owners' computer to the cloud storage service provided by ReDigi has occurred. "ReDigi cannot police the universe" as Mr Beckerman puts it. Removable devices still containing the song will be checked when connected to the PC, but other than that it's outside of ReDigi's control (just the same as if you'd copied the CD to a device then sold the CD).
An interesting point: Capitol's lawyer states that selling an iPod containing music you wish to sell is protected under First Sale doctrine. It would then follow that the buyer putting the music onto the PC is protected space shifting (as is putting music onto the iPod in the first place), and buying back the iPod minus the music would again be First Sale. Kind of like a high-tech SneakerNet.
Page 27, lines 3 - 12. Mr Mandel for plaintiff:
"If you make a copy and then put it up somewhere else in order to distribute it, it isn't that particular copy anymore that you're distributing. And that is basically the whole essence of the first sale doctrine is that it didn't include the right to reproduction any more than if I had a book or CD that I could photocopy, give the copy to my friend, and then decide I don't want this book anymore, I'm going to throw the book in the garbage. That wouldn't be covered by the first sale doctrine, and neither is this. It's logically no different. "
Most cogent argument I've heard against resale of digital files. I don't agree (do read the document in full for the hypothetical iPod sale situation), but it's a damn good point.
What does one get from Biggest Loser? Don't eat so much and get off your fat ass?
I would argue that this is far more useful advice to the regular person in everyday life than watching a robot hand a nerd a sachet of soy sauce, or bouncing a laser off the moon.
To make that goal, these scientists should probably go on a retreat, spend some time on team building exercises, and practice dynamic solution strategies, so that they can build up the synergies they need to deliver agile, customer-facing world class results that deliver a genuine Six Sigma experience.
Fuck everything, we're doing Seven Sigmas
2) Android, not that great of a UI
Which one? I'll agree that stock is a little bare, but Sense? Go Launcher? ADW? Regina 3D? SPB Mobile? The new ICS UI? The point of Android is you have the choice. You can choose to have it look like an iPhone, or Windows 7, or your favourite Anime, or a plate of spaghetti. It's up to you.
Therefore let's stop making crime illegal. Mugging grannies is just a way of making money.
Cutting people is a crime. Surgeons cut people. Therefore, surgeons are criminals.
It's called a fallacy of accident You fail at trolling.
your loss of money on lottery tickets. It is a voluntary tax in ignorance. Facebook (and the lottery people) know that there are huge numbers of ignorant people out there who are willing to part with something valuable for something of very little (or no) value simply because they don't understand what they are parting with and what they are gaining/losing.
No. It's my choice if I want to buy a lottery ticket, and I need to go to a store which sells lottery tickets to do it. I come to Slashdot and I'm linked up with Facebook (Fuck you by the way, Geeknet) because they put that dumb button on the bottom of every story. That's my IP address linked to my website browsing preference and I've never been to Facebook.com or given them any information voluntarily. Every single site which has that button is linked to my IP address. It's sickening.
By your analogy, this is more like every store you go in to selling you a lottery ticket with each purchase, at your expense, with the choices being to accept the ticket, not visit the store, or break the till operator's hand before he hits the "Sell lottery ticket" button.
[I]n the US where they just say Yes to the bill with the most financial backing.
That, and the one with the tenuous backronym or name which makes you look like a terrorist child abusing communist sympathiser if you vote against it.
Business exist to make money, not follow rules. Even if following certain rules is a requirement to making money, it is still secondary to making money.
I don't think Microsoft / Cisco / Facebook / $Company formed with the idea of "Following the Articles of Incorporation" and just happened to make a boatload of cash on the side.
No, you're thinking of religious texts.
Saying that, may well find "US Constitution" moved to the Fiction section of your libraries pretty soon.
Only none of your reasons for acquittal apply here. There was no trial error and he wasn't innocent. There is no doubt as to his guilt (as there was no doubt about the guilt of Oscar Wilde either), it's just that the law that they broke was absolutely abhorrent.
Spot on, my man!
All of you guys bellowing about "civil disobedience"; These are the consequences. Get used to that idea when you use those words.
The only way to block this is to pay $5/month and then micromanage your lines.
Wrong. You also have the option of leaving T-Mobile.
And independent testing proves they're mostly pretty useless.
As with all things, only install apps from trusted sources, don't click accept on every pop-up box, and check the permissions requested are consistent with the functionality of the app. The same as with any other application on any other OS.
Do you apply this logic to your own network? Actually let me rephrase that. Do you apply this logic to your own possessions, property and family? Do you believe burglary victims should share part of the blame because they didn't reinforce the glass windows(security flaws) in their homes?
No, but if the burglar writes a note saying "You should really lock your doors" and leaves it on your dining table, you can't have 3-factor locking mechanisms, reinforced doors and frames, and security shutters installed and blame the perp for the cost. You should really just have locked your damn doors in the first place, for no (or very little) cost.
If this post could have a soundtrack, it would be "Hero" by the Foo Fighters.
You can be my boss.
(as an aside, I have to admit that if I was on the Apollo 10 mission and everything was working out, I'd be tempted to yell "Fuck you, Neil!" into my radio and land on the Moon. What's NASA gonna do?) Watch as you die on the moon because the ascent stage lacked the fuel needed to return the Lunar Module to the Command Module from the surface of the moon.
What a place to die, though.
Did some politicians just say that it sometimes helps to listen to the electorate?
MY HEAD A SPLODE.
Subtle joke is subtle.
This is great if you're the person doing short-listingof candidates. If you have an HR dept staffed by monkeys in suits, they're checking boxes. "Doesn't have $Qualification1? Bin it. Has $Qualification2 but not $Qualification1? Bin it. Never mind that in the "Further information" section the candidate has listed 15+ years doing exactly the things listed in the job description, citing specific examples and demonstrating significant in-depth knowledge of the subjects. HR "doesn't do computers."
I've got over a decade in IT, but no certs. The only jobs I've gotten so far have been through friends, because they know I can do the job; They've spoken to me, I've helped them out. Now all I need to do is convince HR of the fact, and to do that I need a shitty cert which means precisely dick all to the guy actually interviewing you.
I hate it.
Wow.... Best demonstration of Poe's Law ever.
I'm genuinely in awe.
I know what you're getting at, but you would really be an activist. Protesting and revolting directly against those infringing on your rights is a core American value. Some would say there is a fine line between activism and terrorism... lately however I think the line is finer between authoritative government and terrorism.
Guy Fawkes was a terrorist. Guy Fawkes was a revolutionary.