Genetic changes are happening all the time in nature, all by itself, also sometimes across species. The reason why human changes are considered powerfull are because they are directed.
Now, a scientist can introduce a gene into an organism, fx by using a bacteria or virus to deliver it. This happens in nature too. When it happens in nature, there is no control with it. In the case of golden rice it is carefully analyzed, and the gene has a harmless effect.
Caution is good, but what is on display here is paranoia. Scientists cannot with absolute certain say golden rice is harmless, certainty is the realm of religion, but use your common sense!
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In this case, instead of feeding these people the rice, perhaps they could extract the beta-carotene and administer it in the form of vitamin pills-- something we're all comfortable with at this point. That way the genetic oddities of the whole food are not in play. Of course, that's not efficient if the food is safe, so who am I to say. Wouldn't it be easier to just grow carrots? I mean, rice? How bland can you get?
Or why doesn't they just eat cake instead?
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"organic" is a wrong word to use in the meaning you are using it; golden rice is excactly as "organic" as you average plant. I would be tempted to call the assosiatens you create as FUD.
Before I potentially hose my system by upgrading, I would like to know the chance of the new deps working.
(after the libc upgrade I am being a little conservative...)
It's going to be a lot easier to find security holes in Windows if you've got the source code. Of course, in Linux this cuts both ways because the good guys can find and fix them much more easily too, but Microsoft aren't likely to be taking patches any time soon:)
MS has up til now relied on security through obscurity. That could mean that there are parts of the code that are insecure, but have been protected by that obscurity, we don't know.
So now any cracker in the world potentially have access to potentally easily exploidable MS source code, how do you know your windows installation is not wide open? That means that if you want to run a highly secure server, you should NOT be using MS software.
(but I guess you wouldn't in the first place anyway, just another brick in the wall...:) )
Autodetecting is important. It is a waste of time to find out which chip is on your network card, your graphicsa card, your sound card, what the refresh rate of your monitor is, etc... Under linux mandrake these are all autodetected, but in debian you have to go though old manuals, try to figure it out from looking at the cards, etc. How can anyone not consider it a ridiculous flaw?
But what does it look like without censorship?
fickedcompany.com?
fyckedcompany.com?
fsckedcompany.com?
How am I supposed to know when the subject is covered so well by the censorship?
I also really like the mandrake graphic partitioner. And the fact that _all_ my hardware was autodetected and autoconfigured during install:)
I am running debian right now, because I have enough linux know-how to configure my hardware myself, and apt and the debian program base rocks! But a debian with the mandrake install program would be heaven! Someone go port...:)
Note that the whole concept of a directory structure shouldn't be prominent in the first place; the data would rather be organized by the very same associations that the user would use to manipulate them. Directory structure belongs in the CLI world.
The game is what would be SMAC gold, ie SMAC+SMACX. Since SMACX was released not so long ago this means the port is not very outdated. (as opposed to if it had been only SMAC)
The first point has already been covered many times here on/. but it is the second that interests me the most. Whereas some games aren't in particular need of new features or concepts, others can hugely benefit - think strategy games like Civilisation or role playing games like Worldforge as mentioned by another poster.
Freeciv! version 1.11 should be released today or tomorrow. www.freeciv.org btw, freeciv really need someone to implement isometric view...:)
We are confusing clock speed with performance, are we. If clock speed was all that mattered we would all be running AMD athlon and pention III chips at the moment.
No - since we have 2 copies of each chromosone the child could get the a gene from fx the left of both parents. So the child would have a different chromosone pair as a result (actually the genes in the chromosones are mixed too IIRC) And having two identical copies of a gene causes many of the problems of inbreeding if I understand correctly...
But separate application and OS compagnies would mean that the application compagny could port office and IE to other OS'es, and linux should no. 1 there.
So maybe office and IE would take take some market share there; I don't mind, let the best man win. It would be fair competition. How would it be worse than staroffice for linux is now? But they couldn't tie all their products into one package, the good with the bad, as they do now, and what is basically what we don't like. Linux being free anyone would be free to make an office replacement. We would have freedom to choose. (OK; they still need to make their document format open)
I'm pleased to announce jointly with Microsoft(tm)(r) Corporation release of Linux 2000 Professional Enterprise.
As you probably already know I'm busy with my family and I already have full-time job with Transmeta. Thus, it has been necessary for me to look for some responsible partner who would help me develop Linux.
After extensive search, I have decided upon Microsoft Corporation which has been known on market for long time from their high quality software.
Thus the upcoming Linux 2.4.0 will become Linux 2000(tm)(r).
Pricing will be determined at later time. However, I would like to take opportunity now to remind people who have unlicensed version of Linux to delete it from hard disk and then wait until official release of Linux 2000(tm)(r) will become available.
Effective April 1st 2000, midnight, all older versions of Linux are illegal under Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
They really can change the license wen they want to under the DMCA, right?
Actually mozilla has hope. IMO opinion M13 was better than netscape 4.7 , and so I used it instead. Yes, it had bugs, but it had a good feel. M14 was/is very buggy, thought. (don't know how they managed). Many small bugs had disappeared, but they had introduced severel new crash bugs. (like opening a new window and then clicking on a link in the old window. Crashes it allmost every time... I can understand they didn't make it beta)
And I would switch to IE in a second if it was available for linux:)
Genetic changes are happening all the time in nature, all by itself, also sometimes across species. The reason why human changes are considered powerfull are because they are directed.
Now, a scientist can introduce a gene into an organism, fx by using a bacteria or virus to deliver it. This happens in nature too. When it happens in nature, there is no control with it. In the case of golden rice it is carefully analyzed, and the gene has a harmless effect.
Caution is good, but what is on display here is paranoia. Scientists cannot with absolute certain say golden rice is harmless, certainty is the realm of religion, but use your common sense!
In this case, instead of feeding these people the rice, perhaps they could extract the beta-carotene and administer it in the form of vitamin pills-- something we're all comfortable with at this point. That way the genetic oddities of the whole food are not in play. Of course, that's not efficient if the food is safe, so who am I to say. Wouldn't it be easier to just grow carrots? I mean, rice? How bland can you get?
Or why doesn't they just eat cake instead?
"organic" is a wrong word to use in the meaning you are using it; golden rice is excactly as "organic" as you average plant. I would be tempted to call the assosiatens you create as FUD.
The story says the rice has been developed in Switzerland, so it should be the same.
Before I potentially hose my system by upgrading, I would like to know the chance of the new deps working.
(after the libc upgrade I am being a little conservative...)
It's going to be a lot easier to find security holes in Windows if you've got the source code. Of course, in Linux this cuts both ways because the good guys can find and fix them much more easily too, but Microsoft aren't likely to be taking patches any time soon :)
:) )
MS has up til now relied on security through obscurity. That could mean that there are parts of the code that are insecure, but have been protected by that obscurity, we don't know.
So now any cracker in the world potentially have access to potentally easily exploidable MS source code, how do you know your windows installation is not wide open? That means that if you want to run a highly secure server, you should NOT be using MS software. (but I guess you wouldn't in the first place anyway, just another brick in the wall...
Autodetecting is important. It is a waste of time to find out which chip is on your network card, your graphicsa card, your sound card, what the refresh rate of your monitor is, etc... Under linux mandrake these are all autodetected, but in debian you have to go though old manuals, try to figure it out from looking at the cards, etc. How can anyone not consider it a ridiculous flaw?
(someone who runs debian himself)
But what does it look like without censorship?
fickedcompany.com?
fyckedcompany.com?
fsckedcompany.com?
How am I supposed to know when the subject is covered so well by the censorship?
I also really like the mandrake graphic partitioner. And the fact that _all_ my hardware was autodetected and autoconfigured during install :)
:)
I am running debian right now, because I have enough linux know-how to configure my hardware myself, and apt and the debian program base rocks! But a debian with the mandrake install program would be heaven! Someone go port...
The telescope it replaces (designed to last 10 years) collapsed in 1988 after only 26 years
That looks like a mistake...
Note that the whole concept of a directory structure shouldn't be prominent in the first place; the data would rather be organized by the very same associations that the user would use to manipulate them. Directory structure belongs in the CLI world.
The game is what would be SMAC gold, ie SMAC+SMACX. Since SMACX was released not so long ago this means the port is not very outdated. (as opposed to if it had been only SMAC)
The first point has already been covered many times here on /. but it is the second that interests me the most. Whereas some games aren't in particular need of new features or concepts, others can hugely benefit - think strategy games like Civilisation or role playing games like Worldforge as mentioned by another poster.
:)
Freeciv! version 1.11 should be released today or tomorrow. www.freeciv.org btw, freeciv really need someone to implement isometric view...
It would be good for bandwidth, but not for latency I would imagine. As to what the net result would be I have no idea.
That one is obligatory for slashdot linux distro announcements. There is always someone who just finished downloading the next version. :)
http://www.sharkyextre me.com/hardware/reviews/cpu/duron_700/
We are confusing clock speed with performance, are we.
If clock speed was all that mattered we would all be running AMD athlon and pention III chips at the moment.
No - since we have 2 copies of each chromosone the child could get the a gene from fx the left of both parents. So the child would have a different chromosone pair as a result (actually the genes in the chromosones are mixed too IIRC) And having two identical copies of a gene causes many of the problems of inbreeding if I understand correctly...
But separate application and OS compagnies would mean that the application compagny could port office and IE to other OS'es, and linux should no. 1 there.
So maybe office and IE would take take some market share there; I don't mind, let the best man win. It would be fair competition. How would it be worse than staroffice for linux is now?
But they couldn't tie all their products into one package, the good with the bad, as they do now, and what is basically what we don't like. Linux being free anyone would be free to make an office replacement.
We would have freedom to choose. (OK; they still need to make their document format open)
Actually it isn't by Linus. Read the replies.
Dear Linux Users,
I'm pleased to announce jointly with Microsoft(tm)(r) Corporation
release of Linux 2000 Professional Enterprise.
As you probably already know I'm busy with my family and I already
have full-time job with Transmeta. Thus, it has been necessary for me to
look for some responsible partner who would help me develop Linux.
After extensive search, I have decided upon Microsoft Corporation
which has been known on market for long time from their high quality
software.
Thus the upcoming Linux 2.4.0 will become Linux 2000(tm)(r).
Pricing will be determined at later time. However, I would like to
take opportunity now to remind people who have unlicensed version of Linux
to delete it from hard disk and then wait until official release of Linux
2000(tm)(r) will become available.
Effective April 1st 2000, midnight, all older versions of Linux
are illegal under Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
They really can change the license wen they want to under the DMCA, right?
And have you heard the news? Thresh is giving up quake to become a full-time pokemon player!
Let try a quiz: :)
What desktop is the easiest to use?
...apples
What kind of OS do they use?
...
I think civ 2 was mainly BR's work
Actually mozilla has hope. IMO opinion M13 was better than netscape 4.7 , and so I used it instead. Yes, it had bugs, but it had a good feel.
:)
M14 was/is very buggy, thought. (don't know how they managed). Many small bugs had disappeared, but they had introduced severel new crash bugs. (like opening a new window and then clicking on a link in the old window. Crashes it allmost every time... I can understand they didn't make it beta)
And I would switch to IE in a second if it was available for linux
The link in the parent post leads to a listing. To get the paper directly click here (pdf document)