Happened to me. First year, a professor suggested to the class that we take a minor in psychology because the CS and psychology combination was 'different'.
Well, I ended up taking 3 years worth of psychology courses, enough to get my degree if I had the general-purpose liberal arts courses. This was a huge paradigm shift for me, since in high school, I mocked liberal arts and such openly. In college, I've got more LA and humanities courses than science:)
I also discovered I really dislike computers, so I'm going back to school to finish my psychology degree. I'll either get out of the field or die trying.:)
I had the chance to skip college and -almost- took it. I was > this close to heading out west and making my fortune. I am soooooo glad I didn't. College brought about quite a few paradigm shifts. I turned from a Pure Science guy to a Mostly Liberal Arts guy. I realized that I really don't like computers very much, even though I have an aptitude for working with them.
'Course, I got a degree in CS, but now I'm working on finishing my psychology degree. Chances are I'll never escape from the computing industry, but damned if I won't die trying:)
Oh yeah, if I hadn't finished school, then I would have been SOL when (if?) I realized how much I disliked computers:)
But why should they comply with his wishes? I've the impression that KDE did what they did to express a kind of incredulity with the absurdity that RMS espoused.
Dear God, I write some weird stuff when I'm three-quarters asleep.
Well, it's not so much that he's defending *my* rights, it's more like he's defending *his* interpretation of *my* rights. He and I don't view things the same way, so he's cutting out my concepts of choice in order to make way for his. Kinda funny, no?
If the cost of support is greater than the revenue, then they woulds be losing money. Companies exist to maximize profit, so they're not going to offer services or products that will lose money.
I want one:) It's so sexy and keen, cuddly toys just sneer at it. My current computer stands about a meter tall and sits on the ground in my bedroom. The Cube would be placed in the living room, for it is not ugly as hell and I would fit in with the decorum.
But I'm not a power user or a hacker:)
One of the reasons I don't run Linux too much anymore is this:) I've got my share of USB devices and it's really sweet when I can just move my mouse, printer, etc. from machine to machine with no issues.
All of the local interviews I've had have been one-interview jobs. Including my new job, where I walked out with an offer:) For out-of-state dingies, I've had 15-20 minute phone interviews before getting a plane out to wherever I have to go.
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Does anyone feel the advantages of heterogenous GUIs outweigh the broad cross-platform support of X?
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Well, I consider myself uniformed in this, since I use X on occasions so rare, you could mark them as some kind of weird holy days or something, but...
Yes:)
Just because it's the standard doesn't mean it's right for the job. For something small and tiny, the software should be small and tiny. If not using X means I'll have more memory and CPU for everything else, then I'm down with that.
Actually, having linux at work wouldn't do anything for me, since I do WAY different things at work and at home. At work, I develop, I code (in fact, I will be using linux:), I pretend to administrate. At home, I play games. And MUSH and browse the web. Linux does nothing for me at home. So, different uses, different OSes.
In the same way that if I take GPLed code and compile it and refuse to release the source. The authors' free speech hasn't been touched at all. Heck, they even have the source code. Of course, I've broken the license, but that's another issue:) (on a completely different note, is it legally possible to compile something without agreeing to the license?)
I have etherent and I have one other friend who does (he's got a T1 as well), but we're the minority. Most of my friends aren't 'computer geeks' and don't have a care to get ethernet.
Apples and oranges. I, personally, really don't care about the so-called 'freedom' of my software. I want stuff that works and I don't really care what it's like. PalmOS is a minor godsend. It does everything I need in my PDA and nothing else. It's tiny. It's fast. It's not 'free', but I don't care, because the thing works yesterday. Ahem. Eric ze Kidder
An expensive IDE? You mean that the GCC port for palm that you can download for free costs too much?:) Of course, you have to be a registered Palm developer to get the emulator and ROM, but they're free as well. Ah well. Eric ze Kidder
>> If it isn't available now, it will be eventually, as long as developers have interest. >> This vaguely reminds me of 'infinite monkeys, infinite keyboards, Shakespeare':) Just because anything can happen won't mean that it will. Eric ze Kidder
>> More potential clients/customers is a good thing, right? >> Only so long as the revenue achieved by supporting the new clients/customers is not greater than the cost to support them. I'll wager most sites take a 'greatest common denominator' approach and don't worry about the rest, because it wouldn't be cost-worthy. One of my web pages uses CSS (*cuddle cuddle*) and I've been informed that Netscape is totally borked with it. I really don't care:) Eric ze Kidder
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Throw multiuser and files access permissions out of the system. have the user automatically login and work as 'root' just as in windows 95/98/me and in macos. sure, this creates a lot of security issues, but they could be tolerated on desktop machines with dialup-only internet access. by far more simple for unsophisticated users.
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You know, this is one reason I use Win98SE almost exclusively:) I have TweakUI setup to automatically log me in and I can do any little action as 'root' that I want. It pleases me to no end. As console, I don't want to deal with logins or multiple users or anything. I just want to get to work ASAP.
(well, get to gaming, rather:)
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Power corrupts.
Absolute power is kinda neat.
Eric ze Kidder
That's not fair; I really don't care about the cost of gas either. ;)
Eric ze Kidder
Happened to me. First year, a professor suggested to the class that we take a minor in psychology because the CS and psychology combination was 'different'. :)
:)
Well, I ended up taking 3 years worth of psychology courses, enough to get my degree if I had the general-purpose liberal arts courses. This was a huge paradigm shift for me, since in high school, I mocked liberal arts and such openly. In college, I've got more LA and humanities courses than science
I also discovered I really dislike computers, so I'm going back to school to finish my psychology degree. I'll either get out of the field or die trying.
Eric ze Kidder
I had the chance to skip college and -almost- took it. I was > this close to heading out west and making my fortune. I am soooooo glad I didn't. College brought about quite a few paradigm shifts. I turned from a Pure Science guy to a Mostly Liberal Arts guy. I realized that I really don't like computers very much, even though I have an aptitude for working with them.
:)
:)
'Course, I got a degree in CS, but now I'm working on finishing my psychology degree. Chances are I'll never escape from the computing industry, but damned if I won't die trying
Oh yeah, if I hadn't finished school, then I would have been SOL when (if?) I realized how much I disliked computers
Eric ze Kidder
But why should they comply with his wishes? I've the impression that KDE did what they did to express a kind of incredulity with the absurdity that RMS espoused.
Dear God, I write some weird stuff when I'm three-quarters asleep.
Eric ze Kidder
Well, it's not so much that he's defending *my* rights, it's more like he's defending *his* interpretation of *my* rights. He and I don't view things the same way, so he's cutting out my concepts of choice in order to make way for his. Kinda funny, no?
Eric ze Kidder
Except for work, I only play games. And talk to people on variouses mushes, but those are games, too :)
If the cost of support is greater than the revenue, then they woulds be losing money. Companies exist to maximize profit, so they're not going to offer services or products that will lose money.
Eric ze Kidder
I want one :) It's so sexy and keen, cuddly toys just sneer at it. My current computer stands about a meter tall and sits on the ground in my bedroom. The Cube would be placed in the living room, for it is not ugly as hell and I would fit in with the decorum.
:)
But I'm not a power user or a hacker
One of the reasons I don't run Linux too much anymore is this :) I've got my share of USB devices and it's really sweet when I can just move my mouse, printer, etc. from machine to machine with no issues.
All of the local interviews I've had have been one-interview jobs. Including my new job, where I walked out with an offer :) For out-of-state dingies, I've had 15-20 minute phone interviews before getting a plane out to wherever I have to go.
Eric ze Kidder
>> :)
Does anyone feel the advantages of heterogenous GUIs outweigh the broad cross-platform support of X?
>>
Well, I consider myself uniformed in this, since I use X on occasions so rare, you could mark them as some kind of weird holy days or something, but...
Yes
Just because it's the standard doesn't mean it's right for the job. For something small and tiny, the software should be small and tiny. If not using X means I'll have more memory and CPU for everything else, then I'm down with that.
Eric ze Kidder
You had napkins? Lucky. We had to write on our hands.
I don't know, if you manage to pull 128kB out of a 2400baud modem, I'd think that's pretty damned impressive :)
Actually, having linux at work wouldn't do anything for me, since I do WAY different things at work and at home. At work, I develop, I code (in fact, I will be using linux :), I pretend to administrate. At home, I play games. And MUSH and browse the web. Linux does nothing for me at home. So, different uses, different OSes.
In the same way that if I take GPLed code and compile it and refuse to release the source. The authors' free speech hasn't been touched at all. Heck, they even have the source code. Of course, I've broken the license, but that's another issue :)
(on a completely different note, is it legally possible to compile something without agreeing to the license?)
I have etherent and I have one other friend who does (he's got a T1 as well), but we're the minority. Most of my friends aren't 'computer geeks' and don't have a care to get ethernet.
ICANN would run a lot more efficiently :)
Ah true. I apologize :)
Apples and oranges. I, personally, really don't care about the so-called 'freedom' of my software. I want stuff that works and I don't really care what it's like. PalmOS is a minor godsend. It does everything I need in my PDA and nothing else. It's tiny. It's fast. It's not 'free', but I don't care, because the thing works yesterday.
Ahem.
Eric ze Kidder
An expensive IDE? You mean that the GCC port for palm that you can download for free costs too much? :) Of course, you have to be a registered Palm developer to get the emulator and ROM, but they're free as well. Ah well.
Eric ze Kidder
>> :) Just because anything can happen won't mean that it will.
If it isn't available now, it will be eventually, as long as developers have interest.
>>
This vaguely reminds me of 'infinite monkeys, infinite keyboards, Shakespeare'
Eric ze Kidder
>> :)
More potential clients/customers is a good thing, right?
>>
Only so long as the revenue achieved by supporting the new clients/customers is not greater than the cost to support them. I'll wager most sites take a 'greatest common denominator' approach and don't worry about the rest, because it wouldn't be cost-worthy. One of my web pages uses CSS (*cuddle cuddle*) and I've been informed that Netscape is totally borked with it. I really don't care
Eric ze Kidder
Whose to say it isn't? :)
>> :) I have TweakUI setup to automatically log me in and I can do any little action as 'root' that I want. It pleases me to no end. As console, I don't want to deal with logins or multiple users or anything. I just want to get to work ASAP.
:)
Throw multiuser and files access permissions out of the system. have the user automatically login and work as 'root' just as in windows 95/98/me and in macos. sure, this creates a lot of security issues, but they could be tolerated on desktop machines with dialup-only internet access. by far more simple for unsophisticated users.
>>
You know, this is one reason I use Win98SE almost exclusively
(well, get to gaming, rather
Eric ze Kidder