As far as I can tell, that paper does not say anything about schoolchildren from the fukushima area having irregular thyroid glands. Maybe I missed it?
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Thank you. I really don't mean to sound like a dick but if you are worried about this I just want to ask these questions rather than spending the time to seek out the data myself. I have no opinion either way on nuclear power. Once again I completely realize repeatedly asking these questions is making me seem hostile, but I am not trying to be like that.
It is common for definitions of vague concepts like "irregular" to change over time. Has that occurred in this case? Why have the researchers failed to use a parametric approach (ie quantify "how irregular")? Why is the term used "irregular" rather than one that more strongly implies damaging to health?
How does the sampling strategy of children's thyroid glands differ between before fukushima and after?
You know this, I know this, the "media" knows this. They know that radiation is scarier than water, and that scarier things get more eyeballs... so they run with that story. People need to learn that the purpose of the news is not to inform, but to get you watching commercials.
I don't see how that is a rebuttal. (maybe it wasn't meant to be).
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The other thing is that one of these times the dollar won't withstand the crisis. That time will be when you were (probably) happy to have commodities or other actual valuable items and skills rather than stock. For the record I currently hold no gold but could probably be persuaded to buy a bit (probably coins) on a big enough dip.
By manipulation I meant people are being sold certificates to gold that does not exist, there has been collusion amongst central banks to suppress the price, etc. The current gold hype is of course both manipulation and advice.
I suppose thats true, although it has averaged out after 30 years. On the other hand, Nasdaq, real estate, and S&P have seen bubbles much larger than what we may be seeing now with gold. So what do you suggest?
Gold and FFR is from elsewhere, I had it sitting around but I'm sure you can easily check to verify. Data from pre-1980 is harder to find. If you have a good source I would love to know it. To me it looks like the price of gold was being suppressed and it is just now catching up with everything else. In other words the volatility in gold is the result of manipulation.
Knowledge-Based Education â" We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the studentâ(TM)s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.
Where does it say they don't want their children challenging their beliefs? Nowhere. They just don't want teachers with an agenda making this happen on purpose. Anyway those programs are probably useless, feel good measures.
I've been challenging beliefs since I about 2nd grade. The first I remember challenging beliefs was realizing in 2nd grade that all these priests and nuns were full of shit and trying to manipulate me by making me feel good after confessing my sins. They wanted me to confuse the feeling of relief that it was over with gods love. And I went to catholic school so I was surrounded by this stuff.
Anecdotal, I know, but the point is that actual critical thinking comes from within, not because it gets written on a blackboard.
They don't want to get rid of critical thinking, they want to get rid of experimental gradeschool courses called "critical thinking", and similar. Stop getting your info from the mews, or worse, headlines. I know you know they are misleading, if not outright wrong in whatever field you have expertise in. This is true of everything.
I've had doctors say similar things to me. I had a big swollen thing on my arm after getting bit by a spider and they told me if I hadn't come the poison may have drained into my lymphatic system and into my heart causing a heart attack. How common are things like that or your example?
That is how I used to think actually, until I broadened my perspective to see governments for what they are. All a government can offer you is throwing shitloads of money at a problem or use violence (lock people in cages or kill them). I won't say it is never in my best interest to have this around...but from what I have seen, more often than not government solutions cause more problems than they solve.
Yea I get that. What are some successful examples of reform? Have the same laws/regulations used to implement the reform later been used against the best interest of the same people who supported them?
Here is the problem with your thinking: you think greed is bad, inherently terrible and humans are irrational, but then immediately you want to give more power to the government by reducing freedoms of individuals (and while corporations are fiction, not real entities, people behind them - the owners, they are real) to use all of their abilities and property to fight the system and get the best outcome in this rigged environment.
Yes this, it is insane to hear people rant against the government (military spending, PATRIOT ACT, SOPA etc) in one breath then say there needs to be more government regulation of stuff in the next. It really is just incoherent. Both major US political parties have incoherent platforms. You want to have limited government but a strong military? Guess what, eventually everyone will be working for the military and receiving VA healthcare and government pensions
Also, incorporation is literally a product the government sells to people. You give the government money and then you can have protection from it's justice system. If you have a problem with corporations you have a problem with government.
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As far as I can tell, that paper does not say anything about schoolchildren from the fukushima area having irregular thyroid glands. Maybe I missed it?
Thank you. I really don't mean to sound like a dick but if you are worried about this I just want to ask these questions rather than spending the time to seek out the data myself. I have no opinion either way on nuclear power. Once again I completely realize repeatedly asking these questions is making me seem hostile, but I am not trying to be like that.
It is common for definitions of vague concepts like "irregular" to change over time. Has that occurred in this case? Why have the researchers failed to use a parametric approach (ie quantify "how irregular")? Why is the term used "irregular" rather than one that more strongly implies damaging to health?
How does the sampling strategy of children's thyroid glands differ between before fukushima and after?
You know this, I know this, the "media" knows this. They know that radiation is scarier than water, and that scarier things get more eyeballs... so they run with that story. People need to learn that the purpose of the news is not to inform, but to get you watching commercials.
I don't see how that is a rebuttal. (maybe it wasn't meant to be).
How many showed irregularities before?
The other thing is that one of these times the dollar won't withstand the crisis. That time will be when you were (probably) happy to have commodities or other actual valuable items and skills rather than stock. For the record I currently hold no gold but could probably be persuaded to buy a bit (probably coins) on a big enough dip.
They do it because they fear a sudden increase in the amount of collateral available. What else do you think they do at these meetings?
http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/20314099?access_key=key-4eycbxhjsddno95zqkv
By manipulation I meant people are being sold certificates to gold that does not exist, there has been collusion amongst central banks to suppress the price, etc. The current gold hype is of course both manipulation and advice.
I suppose thats true, although it has averaged out after 30 years. On the other hand, Nasdaq, real estate, and S&P have seen bubbles much larger than what we may be seeing now with gold. So what do you suggest?
http://i48.tinypic.com/30953e1.png
Note that most data begins at 1980. Also note zirp since 2008.
Most data from here (I am not sure about the methods but its from government...):
http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/surveymost?ap
Gold and FFR is from elsewhere, I had it sitting around but I'm sure you can easily check to verify. Data from pre-1980 is harder to find. If you have a good source I would love to know it. To me it looks like the price of gold was being suppressed and it is just now catching up with everything else. In other words the volatility in gold is the result of manipulation.
Real typers use Kelvin
I guess cents are pretty redundant since it only goes to 2 decimal places anyway. The missing degrees symbol has annoyed me many times.
When coins had 20x the value of today they were also made of metals that were worth around the same as the coin. Today all we have is nickles.
Come on though. A spider bite leading to a heart attack?
Where does it say they don't want their children challenging their beliefs? Nowhere. They just don't want teachers with an agenda making this happen on purpose. Anyway those programs are probably useless, feel good measures.
I've been challenging beliefs since I about 2nd grade. The first I remember challenging beliefs was realizing in 2nd grade that all these priests and nuns were full of shit and trying to manipulate me by making me feel good after confessing my sins. They wanted me to confuse the feeling of relief that it was over with gods love. And I went to catholic school so I was surrounded by this stuff.
Anecdotal, I know, but the point is that actual critical thinking comes from within, not because it gets written on a blackboard.
Adbusters came up with "the 1%"
They don't want to get rid of critical thinking, they want to get rid of experimental gradeschool courses called "critical thinking", and similar. Stop getting your info from the mews, or worse, headlines. I know you know they are misleading, if not outright wrong in whatever field you have expertise in. This is true of everything.
I've had doctors say similar things to me. I had a big swollen thing on my arm after getting bit by a spider and they told me if I hadn't come the poison may have drained into my lymphatic system and into my heart causing a heart attack. How common are things like that or your example?
I don't understand this argument:
That is how I used to think actually, until I broadened my perspective to see governments for what they are. All a government can offer you is throwing shitloads of money at a problem or use violence (lock people in cages or kill them). I won't say it is never in my best interest to have this around...but from what I have seen, more often than not government solutions cause more problems than they solve.
Yes it is insane to keep trying the same thing over and over if it doesn't work. It's even a cliche.
I don't believe I would.
Yea I get that. What are some successful examples of reform? Have the same laws/regulations used to implement the reform later been used against the best interest of the same people who supported them?
Yes this, it is insane to hear people rant against the government (military spending, PATRIOT ACT, SOPA etc) in one breath then say there needs to be more government regulation of stuff in the next. It really is just incoherent. Both major US political parties have incoherent platforms. You want to have limited government but a strong military? Guess what, eventually everyone will be working for the military and receiving VA healthcare and government pensions
Also, incorporation is literally a product the government sells to people. You give the government money and then you can have protection from it's justice system. If you have a problem with corporations you have a problem with government.
I was being a dick, sorry. Don't drink and slashdot.
When talking about politics, mentioning the terms republican or democrat is becoming obsolete. They are the same where it matters.