I've tried to get it work for 3 days - no luck. The manual basically says "if you have problems, you've got wrong Perl - go get fresh one, compile it, install and go". Well, I have lastest Perl I could get for RH - 5.00502.Is this one so bad that Minivend must fail on it without even giving error message? And I'm not going to start fresh Perl installation (and lose about 20 of installed modules, and break some apps) just to make sure it won't work anyway... Seems that people at minivend have way to go before it can be installed without a royal headache.
Well, AFAIK Age of Empires (as well as many other products) are not "Microsoft products" in plain old meaning. They just bought it or paid to someone and then stamped the corporate logo on it. I don't know if it worth mentioning that many other products (Word, SQL Server, MSIE, etc.) begun their life in Microsoft in the same way - bought from other company, which is now extinct.
Yeah, and for apples and oranges too. I've even seen ads for electricity here, in Israel. Electrical Company had launched ad company "It's better with electriity" - like at least 80% of population are constantly using only kerosene lamps and open-fire heaters. You can advertise anything, provided you have money and your media colnsultant wants them.
3:22pm - Network connections down due to router failure, possibly related to thunderstorms and power failures in the area
2:59pm - Network connections intermittently up
12:40pm - Network connections down due to router failure
11:02am - Services restarted
10:47am - Some services failed after reboot
10:45am - Reboot because the System log was full
10:30am - Network connections down due to router failure
You tell me the server that is rebooted twice a day (once because log is full!!) and something fails to start on reboot, and has networking problems four times a day - it is the notion of secure robust web-server?!?! Am I missing something??
This looks very bad to me. Now CyberPatrol already can influence your decision on provider choice - by blocking full range of web-servers just because of one page with content that CP doesn't like. Tomorrow they may choose to take fees for removing from the list (if they don't already) - thus making this CP thing full-blown blackmail scheme. Then they might choose to slightly change content of the web pages that they'd like to - with any intent and result you can imagine. And surely, they'd never tell anyone about this, and no plain user could notice this.
I think that the thing like CP should be eliminated - not by force, but by PR campaign, like go and explain every user that uses if that he puts all his WWW experiences, browsing habits, data access and literally everything he does on the Web in the hands of some people he doesn't know at all! And those people yet are so technically illiterate that they can't even design sane scheme for content blocks management! I think, a good deal of FUD could also help the self-called cops from CP to get a copule of clues.
There's also thing about employer being so dumb that he installs child-protection filters on his own machine, obviously not trusting itself in choosing proper sites, but delegating this task to some unknown company...
This was the name of the Stephen King's novel, written in 1977. Seems to me to be pretty good description of why those kids took guns and what they felt. Not that anybody who has power to change reads any of those books.
Well, when I bought my machine, it had Windose pre-installed. It was win3.1 (not 3.11!) and it was a legal copy - not so common for home user in our lands, which are called "country of one diskette". And I admit using it. Since then my hardware went a chain of upgrades which basically left nothing but dust to remain from the original configuration. And the software got upgraded to Linux - now 2.2.0pre8. So my computer never got in touch with windws more recent than 3.1 - and I have thus nothing to return or complain. And I feel good for it!
On the other site, in our lands it would be almost impossible to return it unless you buy it from very respected company's reseller - which going to cost you about additional 50% of price. Others just won't understand what you are talking about.
So, For Microsoft the initiative is a key play to grab a large portion of the future consumer appliance market.
It means I'd have to buy Microsoft Personal Microwave Kit to be able to use my bathroom, and the toilet won't flush with message "Error performing flush: No error" and I'd have to order Microsoft Support Contract by $2000 a year to be able to adjust channels on my TV?
And how the heck my vacuum cleaner is supposed to "syncronize" with my VCR?
I only hope it will be so expensive that no large electronics maker will choose to build this abomination in it's appliances.
I do not know yet about Wine capabilities in full, but my first impression was less than happy. It keeps crashing on every program from it's programs directory. Since I have no Windows installed now, I couldn't check it with native execs yet. Maybe that's pgcc to blame? But then again, I can't install two years old compiler and risk all the problems from this just to run Windows solitaire!
All I want from thing such as WIne that I could use it without full windows installed. Now I couldn't.
To sum up, there's a way to go before Microsoft have to start worrying.
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I've tried to get it work for 3 days - no luck. The manual basically says "if you have problems, you've got wrong Perl - go get fresh one, compile it, install and go". Well, I have lastest Perl I could get for RH - 5.00502.Is this one so bad that Minivend must fail on it without even giving error message? And I'm not going to start fresh Perl installation (and lose about 20 of installed modules, and break some apps) just to make sure it won't work anyway... Seems that people at minivend have way to go before it can be installed without a royal headache.
Well, well... this one looks like blackmail - "you get to be our client or we'll sue you for every foolish case we could invent"...
Well, AFAIK Age of Empires (as well as many other products) are not "Microsoft products" in plain old meaning. They just bought it or paid to someone and then stamped the corporate logo on it. I don't know if it worth mentioning that many other products (Word, SQL Server, MSIE, etc.) begun their life in Microsoft in the same way - bought from other company, which is now extinct.
Yeah, and for apples and oranges too. I've even seen ads for electricity here, in Israel. Electrical Company had launched ad company "It's better with electriity" - like at least 80% of population are constantly using only kerosene lamps and open-fire heaters. You can advertise anything, provided you have money and your media colnsultant wants them.
Look on their status page:
Current Status: UP
8/3/99 Events
3:22pm - Network connections down due to router failure, possibly related
to thunderstorms and power failures in the area
2:59pm - Network connections intermittently up
12:40pm - Network connections down due to router failure
11:02am - Services restarted
10:47am - Some services failed after reboot
10:45am - Reboot because the System log was full
10:30am - Network connections down due to router failure
You tell me the server that is rebooted twice a day (once because log is full!!) and something fails to start on reboot, and has networking problems four times a day - it is the notion of secure robust web-server?!?! Am I missing something??
This looks very bad to me. Now CyberPatrol already can influence your decision on provider choice - by blocking full range of web-servers just because of one page with content that CP doesn't like. Tomorrow they may choose to take fees for removing from the list (if they don't already) - thus making this CP thing full-blown blackmail scheme. Then they might choose to slightly change content of the web pages that they'd like to - with any intent and result you can imagine. And surely, they'd never tell anyone about this, and no plain user could notice this.
I think that the thing like CP should be eliminated - not by force, but by PR campaign, like go and explain every user that uses if that he puts all his WWW experiences, browsing habits, data access and literally everything he does on the Web in the hands of some people he doesn't know at all! And those people yet are so technically illiterate that they can't even design sane scheme for content blocks management!
I think, a good deal of FUD could also help the self-called cops from CP to get a copule of clues.
There's also thing about employer being so dumb that he installs child-protection filters on his own machine, obviously not trusting itself in choosing proper sites, but delegating this task to some unknown company...
This was the name of the Stephen King's novel, written in 1977. Seems to me to be pretty good description of why those kids took guns and what they felt. Not that anybody who has power to change reads any of those books.
Well, when I bought my machine, it had Windose pre-installed. It was win3.1 (not 3.11!) and it was a legal copy - not so common for home user in our lands, which are called "country of one diskette". And I admit using it.
Since then my hardware went a chain of upgrades which basically left nothing but dust to remain from the original configuration. And the software got upgraded to Linux - now 2.2.0pre8. So my computer never got in touch with windws more recent than 3.1 - and I have thus nothing to return or complain. And I feel good for it!
On the other site, in our lands it would be almost impossible to return it unless you buy it from very respected company's reseller - which going to cost you about additional 50% of price. Others just won't understand what you are talking about.
So,
For Microsoft the initiative is a key play to grab a large portion of the future consumer appliance market.
It means I'd have to buy Microsoft Personal Microwave Kit to be able to use my bathroom, and the toilet won't flush with message "Error performing flush: No error" and I'd have to order Microsoft Support Contract by $2000 a year to be able to adjust channels on my TV?
And how the heck my vacuum cleaner is supposed to "syncronize" with my VCR?
I only hope it will be so expensive that no large electronics maker will choose to build this abomination in it's appliances.
I do not know yet about Wine capabilities in full, but my first impression was less than happy. It keeps crashing on every program from it's programs directory. Since I have no Windows installed now, I couldn't check it with native execs yet. Maybe that's pgcc to blame? But then again, I can't install two years old compiler and risk all the problems from this just to run Windows solitaire!
All I want from thing such as WIne that I could use it without full windows installed. Now I couldn't.
To sum up, there's a way to go before Microsoft have to start worrying.