I'd be happy with a Wiki-Style, where the actual article can be as complex (in the know) as desired, but with a glossary of sorts.
There are geniuses of all sorts, someone might be completely lost trying to understand it linguistically, but may find a fault in it instantly visually, or audibly.
However that is somewhat redundant, as the original (as it is now) can be converted into that by people, but a mandate saying it must contain X, Y and Z, will open it up to more people, quicker.
I certainly found my prime feces interesting, I still remember my mothers reaction... good times...
I'm not really trolling, its just "prime feces" sums up how I feel about it... personally, I don't think anything that describes its form and/or function, should be allowed to be trademarked. Net + Book, Lap + Top, Desk + Top, MP3 + Player, etc... PsionTop, PCsion, crap like that...sure i'll go for that, trademark it, it's unique.
Perhaps, but it's just as likely that Google isn't playing like they want them to, which may include not offering (the party) a bribe, which politicians have become a custom to (in all parties)
You'd be simply astounded at how many people do not have laptops!/sarcasm
The 'point' isn't to be used as a full time dedicated anything, it's simply (in the meantime) for those "damnit, wish I had something installed that could do this" moments, however, "in the future" there will be an even greater desire for web-based applications, with the 15 devices people have, all being able to access their one home server, being able to run your favorite app *as you like it* from anywhere, on any machine with internet... Just becuase you don't like it that way, doesn't mean everyone else wont too.
On top of that, it also means (especially for nettops, OLPC, handhelds, etc) that you can still get something done, without installing anything other than the browser.
Thirdly, if you don't have those little eureka moments, or "I gotta code/create/plan this shit out right now" moments, then chances are you aren't very passionate/enthusiastic about what you are doing.
Quaternarily... you can have a group of people, from different points in the world, all working on the same project, with no hassles... don't have to install some special VPN, could bump into someone on the street, and they could instantly flip-open their laptop, and join in... etc, etc.
Sad, but true... although somewhat understandable considering that an Anti-Virus primary function is to battle viruses, not ad-ware/malware.
Could just as easily say "I like that products such as Kaspersky Anti-Virus are ten times more effective at taking care of that than any anti-malware product out there"
However, the "suites" (ie: Firewall + AntiVirus + Ad/spyware, etc) are generally getting better at it.
Also, their (the nasty people) gimmick is still rather effective, because the average user doesn't know the difference between malware/adware/virus/trojan/port:80/hijacker/psu... their little advertisements can say "You have malware, get this anti-virus software to fix it, it will extend the life of your PSU"... and then go "oh, ok"...
Never said it was going to make me drop all other alternatives, and stop using dedicated IDEs, I'm just more familiar (and preferential) with the MS IDEs...
Besides, i've found little, or no use for Inno, NSIS, or SharpDevelope, Java, etc, etc... but I have been tempted to try them all out, just like trying Vista, but having no use for it, trying CentOS but having no use for it.
If it wasn't for these temptations I'd still be using my C64.
Pfft, troll... especially implying that using Linux leads to gout... lol
Seriously though, the basic day-to-day operation of Windows, Linux, OSX, etc... is about the same as the various types of the english language, yeah we stumble on some metaphors, and references, but I can switch between them all quite easily, besides where the "work" gets done, is in the software UI, which is even more seamless between OS's...
Now that this is "out" (publicly anyways, probably been around for awhile) it can be resolved.
Besides, has anyone ever asked you to drive their car somewhere before? did you decide to take it to a chop-shop instead? or sell it?
Ever broke into your neighbours house and stole their stereo, just because you know they don't bother to lock the door?
Ever been waiting at the counter in a store/office/etc, and seen someones information? did you use their creditcard number? did you try and steal their identity?
Did you ever do that, then announce it publicly over 3 different types of media?
They know it will happen but they can't really do much about it without causing problems for legitimate users.
Exactly my point, neither can TPB, anything that deals with publicly provided content, has that same problem, YouTube, RapidShare, Wikipedia, MySpace, etc, TPB just decided to not deal with that, I think it can be more attributed to laziness, or perhaps ambivalence, than maliciousness.
...given that there are many sites that do only legal torrents, that removing the illegal ones would not be impossible.
Show me one, with public (non-specific, ie: not just Linux OS's, etc) uploading, free sign-up (or none), that actually has content people want, that doesn't have illegal content on it.
It's a computer readable set of instructions giving detailed information on exactly what needs to be transferred from where, for the sole purpose of transferring data between computers.
There again, the same can be said about TCP/UDP packets, DNS cache's, or even your browser's cache folder. Just because they can do it, doesn't mean that the user is using it for that purpose.
I figured as much, but the prospect was too tempting to ignore...
I don't see why "real" applications couldn't be developed though, albeit they would have to be very limited in their imports and what-not, as well as almost mandatory open-source, and could be compiled on the host server, then spit out the executable back through the browser.
Although handling security would be a nightmare I would imagine, plus it would have to have an amazing code-analysis to make sure there was no infinite-loops, security-bypassing, etc in the code. However generally anyone knowledgeable enough to get that far, probably wouldn't need a web-based IDE to bypass the system they are typing it on.
This is rather off-topic, but Sumo-Paint still impresses me, it's not quite as good as Photoshop, etc, but it comes very close...
If Bespin, etc can get anywhere near that functionality/power... it will certainly be useful. Especially in classroom situations, where it can be sandboxed in the browser.
However, I am curious about how one would go about compiling, or is it strictly code-editing, online-only apps?
They are just a middle-man, and one that resides in numerous countries all with differing laws, and it's users reside in even more countries, with even more contrast in laws...
For the most part, (to me anyways) it's the same as suing ISP's for distributing illegal content, suing Cat5 cable makers for allowing it, suing hard drive makers for storing it... etc etc...
Besides, as soon as you try and plug or restrict a "tube" with that much pressure behind it, it's just going to spring leak somewhere... if the TPB goes down, then every Torrent tracker/server is "under attack"... even entirely legitimate/scrutinized torrent servers, still sometimes have "illegal" content on them, just like (whatever company that was) that distributed some illegal (or weren't 'allowed' to distribute) content, by accident... for now "that's ok, you tried"... but when they are the only ones left, they become the new target... then even accidental distribution is a crime...
And considering how late (how used to it people are) it is now, if that happens, there no doubt will be riots and uproar, even if those riots stay entirely online, imagine the inspiration for 'evils ppls' to hack/destory/distribute viruses against those who helped with "the day the torrents stopped"... a lot of which are probably starting/waiting for an excuse already.
TPB might be (somewhat) in the wrong, but so are their accusers, it's just people are so used to the norm, "thats just how business works" that they allow them to continue.
Anyways, i'm just rant-babbling... the whole thing pisses me off, but I don't know how to fix it either.
Hmm, so I suppose that a site named "Auschwitz Camping" automatically means that they secretly kill people?
Piratbyran ("The Piracy Bureau") is a Swedish organization (or think tank) established to support people opposed to current ideas about intellectual property â" by freely sharing information and culture.
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[The Pirate Bay] Initially established in November 2003 by the Swedish anti-copyright organization Piratbyrån (The Piracy Bureau)...
And being indifferent about infringing content (according to other countries), doesn't automatically make their purpose infringement.
...Pirate Bay cannot claim that it serves a larger legitimate and legal forum for free content...
Yes it can, it doesn't promote "illegal" content, and it doesn't promote "legal" content, just "content", it's the users who choose to add "illegal" content, some of which reside (some purposefully) in countries that are more lax, or have none of the same infringement/copyright laws.
As true as the outcome may be, that still doesn't validate the necessity of a race to procure a speedier advancement.
You don't think that if the USA And the USSR had worked together that we wouldn't have gotten there just as quick, if not quicker?
We only had a "race" cause both sides decided to be assholes to eachother after WW2... this isn't a browser war, if we don't work together on it, we'll end up with a "winner" doing spacey stuff, and a bunch of losers back here on earth, and all that this new "class war" would create.
Main Entry: bail Function: verb Date: 1613 transitive verb 1 : to clear (water) from a boat by dipping and throwing over the side usually used with out 2 : to clear water from by dipping and throwing usually used with out
And for the foreseeable future, probably not as well, however, I think that any "Standard" that is implimented should have a lifespan, of say no more than 5 years, where it gets brought up again for evaluation, just incase there is a new developement/technology that could be more useful (smaller, faster, more durable)
Although, as far as wires go, mini/micro USB is probably all that will ever be needed, until both charging and updating can be done internally, or wirelessly.
They tried that already, by trying to buy a small island (tried twice actually), and starting their own country. Neither attempts succeeded.
I'm by no means up-to-date on the laws of all ~260 countries or whatever, but I don't think there is anywhere that is entirely "safe", there may be a few where it is legal, or at least not illegal to do what they do, but that same country probably wouldn't be the best place to do their business for other reasons (mobs, poor internet, low food, weather, etc), or is easily influenced by anyone with money, status, popularity negating any "safeness" there may be.
And it seems to be leaning more and more in that (downward) direction, so what may be "safe" now, may not be in 6 months.
Personally, I have zero problem with TPB, MiniNova, Demonoid, or any of the rest... they are by far the wrong targets to be going after, you may as well go after Google, Yahoo, or even Microsoft (Windows XP Torrent) as they all contain links to torrents to copyright/illegal torrents as well, and much like Torrent servers, they do not contain the actual files, but just the torrent, which is basically a glorified network file shortcut, and although I hate to say it, targetting Axxo, FXG, etc would make more sense, but still far from proper sense.
Fix the pricing, and "artistic/personal use" limitations, and everyone would pretty much get along fine, even though there will always be "illegal" torrents/files on the interent, no matter how many ways you try and stop them.
I don't think they are really trying to participate in the gaming/high end of graphics, I think they largely still focus on onboard/handheld/as little as needed to work graphics.
Which, they are still pretty damn good at (usually), although you may know them better as VIA.
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Although likely, not necessarily...
I'd be happy with a Wiki-Style, where the actual article can be as complex (in the know) as desired, but with a glossary of sorts.
There are geniuses of all sorts, someone might be completely lost trying to understand it linguistically, but may find a fault in it instantly visually, or audibly.
However that is somewhat redundant, as the original (as it is now) can be converted into that by people, but a mandate saying it must contain X, Y and Z, will open it up to more people, quicker.
I certainly found my prime feces interesting, I still remember my mothers reaction... good times...
I'm not really trolling, its just "prime feces" sums up how I feel about it... personally, I don't think anything that describes its form and/or function, should be allowed to be trademarked. Net + Book, Lap + Top, Desk + Top, MP3 + Player, etc... PsionTop, PCsion, crap like that...sure i'll go for that, trademark it, it's unique.
I hope they lose, just out of spite... /minirant
Perhaps, but it's just as likely that Google isn't playing like they want them to, which may include not offering (the party) a bribe, which politicians have become a custom to (in all parties)
Not done, that was almost a year ago...
Since then, I have stopped using IE and Firefox entirely... as i'm sure more have adopted it (well Firefox at least).
P.S. my preferred browser in that poll, and still is Opera.
I think it's Taco's way of making himself feel special, seems to be only during his "runs" of articles...
Perhaps its a test, to see if articles with 0 submissions get more clicks, dunno...
You'd be simply astounded at how many people do not have laptops! /sarcasm
The 'point' isn't to be used as a full time dedicated anything, it's simply (in the meantime) for those "damnit, wish I had something installed that could do this" moments, however, "in the future" there will be an even greater desire for web-based applications, with the 15 devices people have, all being able to access their one home server, being able to run your favorite app *as you like it* from anywhere, on any machine with internet... Just becuase you don't like it that way, doesn't mean everyone else wont too.
On top of that, it also means (especially for nettops, OLPC, handhelds, etc) that you can still get something done, without installing anything other than the browser.
Thirdly, if you don't have those little eureka moments, or "I gotta code/create/plan this shit out right now" moments, then chances are you aren't very passionate/enthusiastic about what you are doing.
Quaternarily... you can have a group of people, from different points in the world, all working on the same project, with no hassles... don't have to install some special VPN, could bump into someone on the street, and they could instantly flip-open their laptop, and join in... etc, etc.
Sad, but true... although somewhat understandable considering that an Anti-Virus primary function is to battle viruses, not ad-ware/malware.
Could just as easily say "I like that products such as Kaspersky Anti-Virus are ten times more effective at taking care of that than any anti-malware product out there"
However, the "suites" (ie: Firewall + AntiVirus + Ad/spyware, etc) are generally getting better at it.
Also, their (the nasty people) gimmick is still rather effective, because the average user doesn't know the difference between malware/adware/virus/trojan/port:80/hijacker/psu... their little advertisements can say "You have malware, get this anti-virus software to fix it, it will extend the life of your PSU"... and then go "oh, ok"...
And Bespin et al wouldn't be?
Never said it was going to make me drop all other alternatives, and stop using dedicated IDEs, I'm just more familiar (and preferential) with the MS IDEs...
Besides, i've found little, or no use for Inno, NSIS, or SharpDevelope, Java, etc, etc... but I have been tempted to try them all out, just like trying Vista, but having no use for it, trying CentOS but having no use for it.
If it wasn't for these temptations I'd still be using my C64.
Pfft, troll... especially implying that using Linux leads to gout... lol
Seriously though, the basic day-to-day operation of Windows, Linux, OSX, etc... is about the same as the various types of the english language, yeah we stumble on some metaphors, and references, but I can switch between them all quite easily, besides where the "work" gets done, is in the software UI, which is even more seamless between OS's...
You bet we worship them...
Now that this is "out" (publicly anyways, probably been around for awhile) it can be resolved.
Besides, has anyone ever asked you to drive their car somewhere before? did you decide to take it to a chop-shop instead? or sell it?
Ever broke into your neighbours house and stole their stereo, just because you know they don't bother to lock the door?
Ever been waiting at the counter in a store/office/etc, and seen someones information? did you use their creditcard number? did you try and steal their identity?
Did you ever do that, then announce it publicly over 3 different types of media?
They know it will happen but they can't really do much about it without causing problems for legitimate users.
Exactly my point, neither can TPB, anything that deals with publicly provided content, has that same problem, YouTube, RapidShare, Wikipedia, MySpace, etc, TPB just decided to not deal with that, I think it can be more attributed to laziness, or perhaps ambivalence, than maliciousness.
...given that there are many sites that do only legal torrents, that removing the illegal ones would not be impossible.
Show me one, with public (non-specific, ie: not just Linux OS's, etc) uploading, free sign-up (or none), that actually has content people want, that doesn't have illegal content on it.
It's a computer readable set of instructions giving detailed information on exactly what needs to be transferred from where, for the sole purpose of transferring data between computers.
There again, the same can be said about TCP/UDP packets, DNS cache's, or even your browser's cache folder. Just because they can do it, doesn't mean that the user is using it for that purpose.
I figured as much, but the prospect was too tempting to ignore...
I don't see why "real" applications couldn't be developed though, albeit they would have to be very limited in their imports and what-not, as well as almost mandatory open-source, and could be compiled on the host server, then spit out the executable back through the browser.
Although handling security would be a nightmare I would imagine, plus it would have to have an amazing code-analysis to make sure there was no infinite-loops, security-bypassing, etc in the code. However generally anyone knowledgeable enough to get that far, probably wouldn't need a web-based IDE to bypass the system they are typing it on.
This is rather off-topic, but Sumo-Paint still impresses me, it's not quite as good as Photoshop, etc, but it comes very close...
If Bespin, etc can get anywhere near that functionality/power... it will certainly be useful. Especially in classroom situations, where it can be sandboxed in the browser.
However, I am curious about how one would go about compiling, or is it strictly code-editing, online-only apps?
Link please? I tried (a rather quick) google, to no avail...
Whoops, hit submit...
They are just a middle-man, and one that resides in numerous countries all with differing laws, and it's users reside in even more countries, with even more contrast in laws...
For the most part, (to me anyways) it's the same as suing ISP's for distributing illegal content, suing Cat5 cable makers for allowing it, suing hard drive makers for storing it... etc etc...
Besides, as soon as you try and plug or restrict a "tube" with that much pressure behind it, it's just going to spring leak somewhere... if the TPB goes down, then every Torrent tracker/server is "under attack"... even entirely legitimate/scrutinized torrent servers, still sometimes have "illegal" content on them, just like (whatever company that was) that distributed some illegal (or weren't 'allowed' to distribute) content, by accident... for now "that's ok, you tried"... but when they are the only ones left, they become the new target... then even accidental distribution is a crime...
And considering how late (how used to it people are) it is now, if that happens, there no doubt will be riots and uproar, even if those riots stay entirely online, imagine the inspiration for 'evils ppls' to hack/destory/distribute viruses against those who helped with "the day the torrents stopped"... a lot of which are probably starting/waiting for an excuse already.
TPB might be (somewhat) in the wrong, but so are their accusers, it's just people are so used to the norm, "thats just how business works" that they allow them to continue.
Anyways, i'm just rant-babbling... the whole thing pisses me off, but I don't know how to fix it either.
Hmm, so I suppose that a site named "Auschwitz Camping" automatically means that they secretly kill people?
Piratbyran ("The Piracy Bureau") is a Swedish organization (or think tank) established to support people opposed to current ideas about intellectual property â" by freely sharing information and culture.
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[The Pirate Bay] Initially established in November 2003 by the Swedish anti-copyright organization Piratbyrån (The Piracy Bureau)...
And being indifferent about infringing content (according to other countries), doesn't automatically make their purpose infringement.
...Pirate Bay cannot claim that it serves a larger legitimate and legal forum for free content...
Yes it can, it doesn't promote "illegal" content, and it doesn't promote "legal" content, just "content", it's the users who choose to add "illegal" content, some of which reside (some purposefully) in countries that are more lax, or have none of the same infringement/copyright laws.
Interview (Chris whoever)/report from today...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoH8ujZ-0hw
Didn't find yesterdays though.
As true as the outcome may be, that still doesn't validate the necessity of a race to procure a speedier advancement.
You don't think that if the USA And the USSR had worked together that we wouldn't have gotten there just as quick, if not quicker?
We only had a "race" cause both sides decided to be assholes to eachother after WW2... this isn't a browser war, if we don't work together on it, we'll end up with a "winner" doing spacey stuff, and a bunch of losers back here on earth, and all that this new "class war" would create.
Main Entry: bail
Function: verb
Date: 1613
transitive verb
1 : to clear (water) from a boat by dipping and throwing over the side usually used with out
2 : to clear water from by dipping and throwing usually used with out
Bailing Wire = Internet Tubes
Ignore that, it's working now, just took 4 minutes.
I suppose that a networking event with one of our upstreams was behind that router?
3/11 (invalid or corrupt AS path)
Or maybe I'm behind that router?
Currently, no...
And for the foreseeable future, probably not as well, however, I think that any "Standard" that is implimented should have a lifespan, of say no more than 5 years, where it gets brought up again for evaluation, just incase there is a new developement/technology that could be more useful (smaller, faster, more durable)
Although, as far as wires go, mini/micro USB is probably all that will ever be needed, until both charging and updating can be done internally, or wirelessly.
They tried that already, by trying to buy a small island (tried twice actually), and starting their own country. Neither attempts succeeded.
I'm by no means up-to-date on the laws of all ~260 countries or whatever, but I don't think there is anywhere that is entirely "safe", there may be a few where it is legal, or at least not illegal to do what they do, but that same country probably wouldn't be the best place to do their business for other reasons (mobs, poor internet, low food, weather, etc), or is easily influenced by anyone with money, status, popularity negating any "safeness" there may be.
I'm Canadian, and we have some of the laxest laws regarding P2P:
File sharing legal in Canada
Canadian Police Tolerates Piracy For Personal Use
And Torrent sites such as IsoHunt, moving to Canada... however, on the contrary:
Court in Canada Shuts Down Torrent Site
And it seems to be leaning more and more in that (downward) direction, so what may be "safe" now, may not be in 6 months.
Personally, I have zero problem with TPB, MiniNova, Demonoid, or any of the rest... they are by far the wrong targets to be going after, you may as well go after Google, Yahoo, or even Microsoft (Windows XP Torrent) as they all contain links to torrents to copyright/illegal torrents as well, and much like Torrent servers, they do not contain the actual files, but just the torrent, which is basically a glorified network file shortcut, and although I hate to say it, targetting Axxo, FXG, etc would make more sense, but still far from proper sense.
Fix the pricing, and "artistic/personal use" limitations, and everyone would pretty much get along fine, even though there will always be "illegal" torrents/files on the interent, no matter how many ways you try and stop them.
I don't think they are really trying to participate in the gaming/high end of graphics, I think they largely still focus on onboard/handheld/as little as needed to work graphics.
Which, they are still pretty damn good at (usually), although you may know them better as VIA.
I think that was part of his argument, that he doesn't consider his state of mind to be expendable.