And what, you are trusting (Vista/Server2008 I would assume?) simply because there isnt a list of vulnerabilities that have been exploited that doesnt have an update/fix for it?
Side Note: Im typing this from XP and I have a another computer in the room next to me currently booted into Vista.
Did I say Microsoft is bad? No.
Besides, obviously a vulnerability is not going to be found if its already patched on the system being tested. Again quoting you "Please list some actual 2008 vulnerabilities that were exploited before being patched." But you are neglecting the fact that en masse there are alot of people who dont update/patch their machines every day.
Futhermore, a lot of vulnerabilities are found by third parties and Microsoft is notified by them, not necissarily by microsoft employees themselves.
And finally, because it hasnt been reported, does not mean they do not exist. Assuming something is secure without proof is far worse than assuming its not.
It doesnt say wether this is a Vista Only issue, which I would assume it isnt if it effects OSX too, so what about XP? 2K? (which I think still have the greater share of Windows user)
"Please list some actual 2008 vulnerabilities that were exploited before being patched."
Uh... I'd be willing to bet that at least 50% of vulnerabilities are found by (intentionally, or unintentionally) exploiting them.
Yes most can be found by someone more knowledgeable looking over the code, but many are found by "whoops, dont do that again" or "die muther fucker die!!!"...
Just being picky... you know.. Slashdot...
And Microsoft products are insecure, provided you equate secure as having no vulnerabilities at all and insecure as the opposite. And so is nearly every other piece of (consumer) software out there.
But, I was hoping the video would show them light the mysterious blue gasoline after.
If it can "recover" gasoline and be instantaniously reuse it... thats very impressive, especially if there are liquids that can reduce, or eliminate the combustability of liquids while mixed with it, and then use the nano-fabric to seperate them and use either for an purpose. Gasoline tanks, airplanes, etc. not to mention many other uses.
Its not the quallity of the links (websites) that matter, its the quallity of what is reported at the destination of the URL. I'll swim through a sewer to get my food if I have to.
What do you have aginst The Register? or Blogs? If Slashdot themselves use Journals, and User Postings, is that not a blog of sorts in the first place?
"Now while downloading a hundred files to your desktop won't automatically execute them, Microsoft's position is that a secondary attack could execute them for you."
With hundreds of files on your desktop, what are the odds you'd hit one when you are just blanking out a selection, or deleting them, or frustratingly smack your mouse for [whatever reason]
The over-heating deffinetly suprised me, especially %50... but they werent very explicit with what exactly "rewiring" entailed, perhaps its simply a preventative measure, instead of waiting for it to fail, just replace it all yearly, which i would imagine wouldnt be too costly when you are buying miles of wires wholesale, and it can all be done machine by machine, and only takes "2 days", or maybe it just means disconnecting and re-wiring, like stepping (disconnect, move from Connection A to B) the connections up to insert more servers.
But over-heating seems to be a serious problem, and might be time to move the facility to a more accomodating place.
Which is what intelligent people do. At least a signifigant portion of their money, and the really smart, put it into things like jewelry, which no matter where, what, or who you can always get something in return for it.
If shit hits the fan, what are you going to do with your little piece of plastic? Well, I suppose you could maybe chop your food, wait... what food?
Probably close to the same, if anything probably cheaper.
I would imagine that Google wouldnt adopt SSDs until they were financially viable, which probably wont be too long, they will be about the same price per GB as HDDs, and eventually cheaper, making for greater profit for aslong as HDD's are being sold (200 GB HDD costs $50, 6 months later 200GB HDD costs $10, etc)
Then, if SSDs are more reliable and the same price, thats also less expense.
Interesting, but I would probably venture a guess: never.
Unless of course you are talking about P2's and ISA's, and its not a matter of "reliability" I dont think, it could easily be argued that a $200 [component] is just as reliable as a $500 [component] I think mostly what they are doing, is buying 3 of something cheaper, instead of one of something greater.
Component A:cheaper, less cutting edge (generally more reliable)
Component B: Has 3 times the power, 3 times the load, costs 3 times as much.
If a single component A fails, there is still 2 running (depending on the component) and thus a 33% loss in performance, a third the of total cost to replace (making it like a 6th of the costs compaired to component B)
If component B fails, 100% loss, complete downtime, 100% expense. (relatively)
FTFA: "he [Blumenthal] said that he is pressing the bank to explain how some backup tapes disappeared while others on the same van arrived intact at the Archive America facility."
It's not a situation where it all got sent to the wrong place, or trashed accidentally, it was (what I would consider) obvious and intentional theft.
However, that doesnt mean that it was intended to be sold as a "bundle" on the Black Market, it could just have easily been some disgruntled worker with no real "plan" other than to fuck with the company, or even just get one individuals information from the 4.5 million (although I would likewise assume the former, Black market)
That may be, but what are the assets? and where does the money come from? Especially if those people who withdrew their money, either keep it, or convert it.
Inflation is the only resolution, well, I suppose if worse came to hell, The Department Of The Treasury, could simply say "alright, that money is no longer legal tender anyways" and switch to something else.
As a side note: "The company [BNY] has annual revenues of about $13 billion, and pro-forma market capitalization of about $50 billion.... It also services more than $11 trillion in outstanding debt."
63 Billion? So if those 20 Million withdrew $3150 each (or on average) they wouldnt make anything that year.
Think about how other banks and countries would react to that, "oh shit, get out now" amplifying the "Bank Run"
It's always happened to some degree, the major difference is similar to the history of money itself.
It wasnt till recently that millions of peoples records was held on digital/analog media. Most things were still carried out via paper and pen which made the loss of millins of peoples data require dumptrucks.
It wasnt till around 2001 or so that things really became "online". And these things are only going to happen more and more frequently now, because as much scare as there may be when this stuff hits the news, it doesnt overrides peoples inherit laziness "oh a few clicks? fuckin A"...
Most people with a lot to lose (millions/billions of dollars), still do not do transactions via digital media, certainly not in an outgoing direction. Until they are hit, this probably wont change no matter how frequently it happens.
If 4.5 million people is only a fraction of the data the bank had (assuming all data they have is equal to the amount of people they cater to) then if say 20,000,000 people withdrew their money, they'd be fucked, even if they only withdrew $200
Especially considering the decline of the USD, granted, it probably wouldnt lead to a major event like the 'Great Depression' (although its possible) but it would kill that branch, break some bird eggs, make an omelet, etc.
If the "Government" bailed them out (which would technically be the bank giving the government money to bail the bank out) the USD would plummet even further to probably mere tens of pennies.
From The Summary: "A mystical substance called Ubik, available in spray-can form, is the only thing stopping reality from disintegrating before Joe's eyes"
From Wikipedia: "This substance, whose name is derived from the word "ubiquity", has the property of preserving people who are in half-life."
Draw your own conclusions about what chemical properties it may have.
Slashdot Mirror
And what, you are trusting (Vista/Server2008 I would assume?) simply because there isnt a list of vulnerabilities that have been exploited that doesnt have an update/fix for it?
Side Note: Im typing this from XP and I have a another computer in the room next to me currently booted into Vista.
Did I say Microsoft is bad? No.
Besides, obviously a vulnerability is not going to be found if its already patched on the system being tested. Again quoting you "Please list some actual 2008 vulnerabilities that were exploited before being patched." But you are neglecting the fact that en masse there are alot of people who dont update/patch their machines every day.
Futhermore, a lot of vulnerabilities are found by third parties and Microsoft is notified by them, not necissarily by microsoft employees themselves.
And finally, because it hasnt been reported, does not mean they do not exist. Assuming something is secure without proof is far worse than assuming its not.
Found by Microsoft, currently unpatched*:
http://secunia.com/advisories/29867/
Found by non-Microsoft, currently unpatched*:
http://secunia.com/advisories/29458/
* According to them.
Im sure I could find more, but, ive fed the troll enough as it is.
It doesnt say wether this is a Vista Only issue, which I would assume it isnt if it effects OSX too, so what about XP? 2K? (which I think still have the greater share of Windows user)
P.S. I still run Opera, though.
"Please list some actual 2008 vulnerabilities that were exploited before being patched."
Uh... I'd be willing to bet that at least 50% of vulnerabilities are found by (intentionally, or unintentionally) exploiting them.
Yes most can be found by someone more knowledgeable looking over the code, but many are found by "whoops, dont do that again" or "die muther fucker die!!!"...
Just being picky... you know.. Slashdot...
And Microsoft products are insecure, provided you equate secure as having no vulnerabilities at all and insecure as the opposite. And so is nearly every other piece of (consumer) software out there.
- Redundant.
But, I was hoping the video would show them light the mysterious blue gasoline after.
If it can "recover" gasoline and be instantaniously reuse it... thats very impressive, especially if there are liquids that can reduce, or eliminate the combustability of liquids while mixed with it, and then use the nano-fabric to seperate them and use either for an purpose. Gasoline tanks, airplanes, etc. not to mention many other uses.
The same way it downloads the content of a webpage without the (direct) consent of the user.
Its not the quallity of the links (websites) that matter, its the quallity of what is reported at the destination of the URL. I'll swim through a sewer to get my food if I have to.
What do you have aginst The Register? or Blogs? If Slashdot themselves use Journals, and User Postings, is that not a blog of sorts in the first place?
Time for bed.
"Now while downloading a hundred files to your desktop won't automatically execute them, Microsoft's position is that a secondary attack could execute them for you."
With hundreds of files on your desktop, what are the odds you'd hit one when you are just blanking out a selection, or deleting them, or frustratingly smack your mouse for [whatever reason]
The over-heating deffinetly suprised me, especially %50... but they werent very explicit with what exactly "rewiring" entailed, perhaps its simply a preventative measure, instead of waiting for it to fail, just replace it all yearly, which i would imagine wouldnt be too costly when you are buying miles of wires wholesale, and it can all be done machine by machine, and only takes "2 days", or maybe it just means disconnecting and re-wiring, like stepping (disconnect, move from Connection A to B) the connections up to insert more servers.
But over-heating seems to be a serious problem, and might be time to move the facility to a more accomodating place.
Which is what intelligent people do. At least a signifigant portion of their money, and the really smart, put it into things like jewelry, which no matter where, what, or who you can always get something in return for it.
If shit hits the fan, what are you going to do with your little piece of plastic? Well, I suppose you could maybe chop your food, wait... what food?
Probably close to the same, if anything probably cheaper.
I would imagine that Google wouldnt adopt SSDs until they were financially viable, which probably wont be too long, they will be about the same price per GB as HDDs, and eventually cheaper, making for greater profit for aslong as HDD's are being sold (200 GB HDD costs $50, 6 months later 200GB HDD costs $10, etc)
Then, if SSDs are more reliable and the same price, thats also less expense.
Interesting, but I would probably venture a guess: never.
Unless of course you are talking about P2's and ISA's, and its not a matter of "reliability" I dont think, it could easily be argued that a $200 [component] is just as reliable as a $500 [component] I think mostly what they are doing, is buying 3 of something cheaper, instead of one of something greater.
Component A:cheaper, less cutting edge (generally more reliable)
Component B: Has 3 times the power, 3 times the load, costs 3 times as much.
If a single component A fails, there is still 2 running (depending on the component) and thus a 33% loss in performance, a third the of total cost to replace (making it like a 6th of the costs compaired to component B)
If component B fails, 100% loss, complete downtime, 100% expense. (relatively)
Agreed
FTFA:
"he [Blumenthal] said that he is pressing the bank to explain how some backup tapes disappeared while others on the same van arrived intact at the Archive America facility."
It's not a situation where it all got sent to the wrong place, or trashed accidentally, it was (what I would consider) obvious and intentional theft.
However, that doesnt mean that it was intended to be sold as a "bundle" on the Black Market, it could just have easily been some disgruntled worker with no real "plan" other than to fuck with the company, or even just get one individuals information from the 4.5 million (although I would likewise assume the former, Black market)
That may be, but what are the assets? and where does the money come from? Especially if those people who withdrew their money, either keep it, or convert it.
...
Inflation is the only resolution, well, I suppose if worse came to hell, The Department Of The Treasury, could simply say "alright, that money is no longer legal tender anyways" and switch to something else.
As a side note:
"The company [BNY] has annual revenues of about $13 billion, and pro-forma market capitalization of about $50 billion.
It also services more than $11 trillion in outstanding debt."
63 Billion? So if those 20 Million withdrew $3150 each (or on average) they wouldnt make anything that year.
Think about how other banks and countries would react to that, "oh shit, get out now" amplifying the "Bank Run"
It's always happened to some degree, the major difference is similar to the history of money itself.
It wasnt till recently that millions of peoples records was held on digital/analog media. Most things were still carried out via paper and pen which made the loss of millins of peoples data require dumptrucks.
It wasnt till around 2001 or so that things really became "online". And these things are only going to happen more and more frequently now, because as much scare as there may be when this stuff hits the news, it doesnt overrides peoples inherit laziness "oh a few clicks? fuckin A"...
Most people with a lot to lose (millions/billions of dollars), still do not do transactions via digital media, certainly not in an outgoing direction. Until they are hit, this probably wont change no matter how frequently it happens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_run
or skip to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_run#History
If 4.5 million people is only a fraction of the data the bank had (assuming all data they have is equal to the amount of people they cater to) then if say 20,000,000 people withdrew their money, they'd be fucked, even if they only withdrew $200
Especially considering the decline of the USD, granted, it probably wouldnt lead to a major event like the 'Great Depression' (although its possible) but it would kill that branch, break some bird eggs, make an omelet, etc.
If the "Government" bailed them out (which would technically be the bank giving the government money to bail the bank out) the USD would plummet even further to probably mere tens of pennies.
lol
I'd say iots more like Unattainium, slightly more volatile, and can become Dihydrogen Monoxide in some cases under pressure.
Agreed, however Waking Life, uses rotoscoping too, in a far less obnoxious way (ie: more like cell animation), and is far more watchable.
From The Summary: "A mystical substance called Ubik, available in spray-can form, is the only thing stopping reality from disintegrating before Joe's eyes"
From Wikipedia: "This substance, whose name is derived from the word "ubiquity", has the property of preserving people who are in half-life."
Draw your own conclusions about what chemical properties it may have.
Oh they are well aware of Opportunity, but dont have much Spirit, and even less Soul.
What? are you serious?... thats crazy talk.
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.
Indeed, its an interesting thought though... I mean, everytime a chopper flies over, you could be redefining their entire religion or something.
"Thats the Whirly, God of birds!"
thats all I have to say.