Windows XP is/was nice... but it wasnt really an exciting achievement, I mean it could be said that XP is just an advanced Windows 95...
Whereas Windows 95, was a HUGE step over DOS and Windows 3.x
The first time you drive a Ferrari, its exciting as hell, the second Ferrari you drive is nice, but not quite as exciting. You'd need to climb into an F1 to get that thrill back, and... Microsoft really hasnt done that since 95...
It may not be, its generally only people who dislike their jobs that consider their paycheck a high-point.
If someone likes there job, the completion of the task is the high-point, the money is a benifit, and when the income gets to a certain point, especially in cases such as Bill Gates, the money becomes self-sufficient, and therefore completely arbitrary, and taken for granted, like breathing air, its only when you dont have it that it becomes precious.
"Too bad the game took less than 10 hours to complete."
Well first of all, I havent played it...
But is it re-playable? I finished SOFII in a few hours, but in the last 8 years or whatever, I have re-played it probably 20 times... (and far more in multiplayer) same goes for the original Half-Life...
And stuff like FarCry, there's a couple levels I can play over and over again... however, im somewhat of a perfectionist, which is why I generally stick to racing games.
Personally I think a game that has a high replay value is more important than how long it takes to complete.
Agreed, I think a lot of people tend to forget that its been some 3 years since KDE 3.5x and basically everything with KDE 4 is still rather beta, whereas Gnome, has for the most part continued its path since 2.0 (6-ish years ago) and thus appears more stable because its more consistent, which arguably could be said is more stable, but I have yet to crash KDE 3.5x...
Disclaimer: I havent used Gnome since about 2001 except for brief periods in Live CD's before installing and switching to KDE... so it may indeed actually be more "stable" however, its layout and style is "incompatible" with my preferences, and reminds me too much of (leaves before the tomatoes hit)...
Im not sure which distro's you use, but so far every distro I use has a choice between KDE or Gnome (of which i choose the former) aswell as the usual other more lean ones.
There are some distro's that frown upon Gnome aswell (Slackware for example, which happens to be my favorite)
"When do you have time to do real work / play with them?"
Well, thats fairly easy, I boot into whichever OS is appropriate for the job, I split my windows installations, one for programming related things, one for graphical related things, and likewise for linux...
If it was my only machine, it would be over-kill and almost a job unto itself, but thanx to automation, and networking, I can leave one PC to do something it needs to do, and switch over to another PC thats free.
"...scanners are going to pick up everything..."
Well no, but the probability is higher, even if the dual(+) boot was the same OS for all installations. Which, ive actually had the pleasure (haha) of doing, and then being hit with an infection (about 7 years ago when XP first came out) boot into an OS, try and fix some stuff, crashes, boot into the other OS, try and fix stuff... granted I did end up losing about 1/3 of my stuff (installed software, plus backup installers) but I did manage to tame the worm, and was left with at least one OS that still booted... it was not a good afternoon...
I also always at least dual boot, all my machines, with XP or Vista, and then either Slackware or (pick random Linux)
The one im typing from at the moment has all four... XP/Vista/Slackware and Mandriva currently... so the odds of it hitting all 4 are slim, and the odds of none of the 4 seeing something odd are just as slim.
Buying a new car envolves money though...reformatting on the off chance something does happen (or about every 6 months regardless), doesnt.
And I never said i was completely careless, everything is pretty much locked down, and I monitor my traffic from time to time just to see if anything odd is going on... plus other than telling people I meet online my real first name, I dont do any online banking, buying, or other transactions that could be "dangerous". And scan everything I download that isnt from a reliable (HTTP/FTP) source. And if this PC gets hit with something, one of my other PC's will tell me eventually...
I just see it as more of a problem to be paranoid, than not be, my computers are for the most part work horses, everything I dont need is disabled or removed, and virus scanners and firewalls are included in those things most of the time, I have a single port blocked in my router (Helkern spam)... so be it.
I'm not concerned either, and I dont use and blocking stuff (other than Opera and a few blacklisted sites)
See, im being stupid, and just going by odds... if something crazy happens that a virusscanner doesnt detect (when i decide to run it) and I can't fix it, reformat! w00t...
Indeed, its not so much this act unto itself, but the consequences of it, especially if successful (whatever that may mean).
I wouldnt be surprised if it didnt trickle down to even the major games in Footbal, Soccer, Baseball etc...
My immediate reaction was "how bad do they expect it to be"... I can understand name, passport info, and picture (although shouldnt any non-citizens already have their passport which contains all this info?), But telephone number and street address etc? are they expecting some giant explosion and will need to identify and ship back body parts?...[/conspiracy_theory]
You could start a petition, send it off to whatever ISP you are under, wether they are involved or not, couldnt hurt, provided you arent rude about it.
I'm not defending Vista, im just perturbed by the "...the Ebox is unlikely to allow for the use of Vista, unless you're something of a masochist" remark, mostly because of the latter end of the sentence.
"...unlikely to allow..."
Does it have some sort of boot message? "A Vista Installation Has Been Detected, You Are Advised To Uninstall This Operating System And Return To The Operating System That Came With This Computer"
But im fine with that side, its worth noting that it may be incompetant in regards to running Vista, but its not designed to run Vista, so the masochistic remark is unwarranted unless it was advertised as having the requirements to do so, and then fails.
FTFA - "...but for now Asus is keeping the full spec to itself."
Perhaps when the details are listed in their entirety, and someone has personal experience with (or attempting to) run Vista on it, then you can call people masochists for further attempts.
FTFA - "Last month, Asus launched the Essentio CS5110 mini PC, is a multimedia SFF PC that again got Eee fans' hopes rising... until they saw that it runs Windows Vista."
So, it could be assumed, especially with 2GB's of memory, that it may indeed support (as far as performance specifications) Windows Vista.
Frankly, I dont like Microsoft anymore, nor am I ignorant to their previous and current propoganda, but this incessant Anti-Vista nonsense doesn't do much but help advertise Vista, people who have yet to 'experience' Vista, will start because its mentioned so often, under the impression that its so atrociously horrible that its just going to be a comedic little endeavor worth some giggles, then realize its not quite as bad as "all that" and probably grow to like it (as far as common computer users go).
Your choice of quotes is ammusing though, because up until the last few years, Linux has been all of those things to the common "e-mail checking and web browsing" computer users. Which I am not saying is a bad thing, because it led a lot of people into a better understanding of how the operating system functions fundamentally, aswell as I myself enjoyed it because its abundance of options and configuration, and now that there are a lot of "User Friendly" linux distributions out there, those distributions have become bloated and glitchy just like Microsofts OS's have, its what the greater percentage of the user base wants.
Anyways, thats beside my point, and I dont see Microsoft touting how "The XBox runs Microsofts [whatever the fuck] better than Linux", no, because its not intended to. You can argue how it should all be open and any OS under the sun (no punn) should be able to run on anything, but thats also off course of the point.
Exactly, I wondered the same thing, its just trolling, it would almost be as relevant if the story before it about solar cells had something like "but they still can't produce enough electricity to run Vista" or "the brand new SMART car, has 5 extra horsepower over the last model, but it still can't pull a horse trailer"
It's not designed to run Vista, therefore it does not necessitate any reference to Vista, it probably wouldnt run Ubuntu very well either, or OSX... and it can't chew my food for me, so my food must suck too...
Besides, whatever client he is using, must have its own throttle, tell him/her to set it to like 75% of what the line can handle.
Some have timers too, so it can be 50/50 during multiple use, and 100% when he's the only one. Which is far easier than tweaking/hacking something you don't really use that often, and you may want to allow other software to use 100% (or as much as possible) on his machine (file sharing over the network, etc).
There is, and from a profit, business stand-point I can understand why Slashdot would want to tap into that market, there are hundreds of "Put your bullshit here" sites, however the demand continues to grow faster than the supply.
If Slashdot wants to join in, go for it, thats their decision, but I dont think it should be merged into Slashdot, start another site, SlantDot or something...
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Im not against little comedic stuff like this, or the Idle section itself, it was actually a good idea. But I think that the front page (or any of the main 'news' sections) should be for tech/science/economy/etc "stuff that matters"
This is rightly in the Idle section, and if you were just looking for something to pass a few minutes and maybe a giggle or two... "choose" to go to the Idle section... just like you would choose to wander around YouTube by itself without having Slashdot.
Weekend or not, I think most people expect Slashdot to provide informative "nerdy" things with a certain amount of dignity.
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Of course 9/11 was an inside job... you had to be inside the little circle of people who did it!
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Windows XP is/was nice... but it wasnt really an exciting achievement, I mean it could be said that XP is just an advanced Windows 95...
Whereas Windows 95, was a HUGE step over DOS and Windows 3.x
The first time you drive a Ferrari, its exciting as hell, the second Ferrari you drive is nice, but not quite as exciting. You'd need to climb into an F1 to get that thrill back, and... Microsoft really hasnt done that since 95...
It may not be, its generally only people who dislike their jobs that consider their paycheck a high-point.
If someone likes there job, the completion of the task is the high-point, the money is a benifit, and when the income gets to a certain point, especially in cases such as Bill Gates, the money becomes self-sufficient, and therefore completely arbitrary, and taken for granted, like breathing air, its only when you dont have it that it becomes precious.
"Too bad the game took less than 10 hours to complete."
Well first of all, I havent played it...
But is it re-playable? I finished SOFII in a few hours, but in the last 8 years or whatever, I have re-played it probably 20 times... (and far more in multiplayer) same goes for the original Half-Life...
And stuff like FarCry, there's a couple levels I can play over and over again... however, im somewhat of a perfectionist, which is why I generally stick to racing games.
Personally I think a game that has a high replay value is more important than how long it takes to complete.
Agreed, I think a lot of people tend to forget that its been some 3 years since KDE 3.5x and basically everything with KDE 4 is still rather beta, whereas Gnome, has for the most part continued its path since 2.0 (6-ish years ago) and thus appears more stable because its more consistent, which arguably could be said is more stable, but I have yet to crash KDE 3.5x...
Disclaimer: I havent used Gnome since about 2001 except for brief periods in Live CD's before installing and switching to KDE... so it may indeed actually be more "stable" however, its layout and style is "incompatible" with my preferences, and reminds me too much of (leaves before the tomatoes hit)...
They do?
Im not sure which distro's you use, but so far every distro I use has a choice between KDE or Gnome (of which i choose the former) aswell as the usual other more lean ones.
There are some distro's that frown upon Gnome aswell (Slackware for example, which happens to be my favorite)
Distro's that come with KDE (not a complete list)
http://www.kde.org/download/distributions.php
Distro's that come with Gnome (Probably not complete)
http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/footware.shtml
Damnit, another cold war?
"When do you have time to do real work / play with them?"
Well, thats fairly easy, I boot into whichever OS is appropriate for the job, I split my windows installations, one for programming related things, one for graphical related things, and likewise for linux...
If it was my only machine, it would be over-kill and almost a job unto itself, but thanx to automation, and networking, I can leave one PC to do something it needs to do, and switch over to another PC thats free.
"...scanners are going to pick up everything..."
Well no, but the probability is higher, even if the dual(+) boot was the same OS for all installations. Which, ive actually had the pleasure (haha) of doing, and then being hit with an infection (about 7 years ago when XP first came out) boot into an OS, try and fix some stuff, crashes, boot into the other OS, try and fix stuff... granted I did end up losing about 1/3 of my stuff (installed software, plus backup installers) but I did manage to tame the worm, and was left with at least one OS that still booted... it was not a good afternoon...
Oh, and to continue babeling...
I also always at least dual boot, all my machines, with XP or Vista, and then either Slackware or (pick random Linux)
The one im typing from at the moment has all four... XP/Vista/Slackware and Mandriva currently... so the odds of it hitting all 4 are slim, and the odds of none of the 4 seeing something odd are just as slim.
Buying a new car envolves money though...reformatting on the off chance something does happen (or about every 6 months regardless), doesnt.
And I never said i was completely careless, everything is pretty much locked down, and I monitor my traffic from time to time just to see if anything odd is going on... plus other than telling people I meet online my real first name, I dont do any online banking, buying, or other transactions that could be "dangerous". And scan everything I download that isnt from a reliable (HTTP/FTP) source. And if this PC gets hit with something, one of my other PC's will tell me eventually...
I just see it as more of a problem to be paranoid, than not be, my computers are for the most part work horses, everything I dont need is disabled or removed, and virus scanners and firewalls are included in those things most of the time, I have a single port blocked in my router (Helkern spam)... so be it.
Every site? every time?
I'm not concerned either, and I dont use and blocking stuff (other than Opera and a few blacklisted sites)
See, im being stupid, and just going by odds... if something crazy happens that a virusscanner doesnt detect (when i decide to run it) and I can't fix it, reformat! w00t...
Ive seen Killer Klowns, and I think ive seen Chickens too... from what i found from it, looks familliar...
And we were talking about the genetic categorization of movies... Six Degrees of Outer Space...or something...
(I know im gonna get modded to hell, but...)
Ever seen Gayniggers From Outer Space
Ever watched it? http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/gayniggers_from_outer_space.php
P.S. I'm not racists, or homophobic, nor is the movie... but its also not really that ammusing either...
its just the first thought that crossed my mind... hmm...
What? you mean think further ahead than tomorrow? unpossible!
Indeed, its not so much this act unto itself, but the consequences of it, especially if successful (whatever that may mean).
I wouldnt be surprised if it didnt trickle down to even the major games in Footbal, Soccer, Baseball etc...
My immediate reaction was "how bad do they expect it to be"... I can understand name, passport info, and picture (although shouldnt any non-citizens already have their passport which contains all this info?), But telephone number and street address etc? are they expecting some giant explosion and will need to identify and ship back body parts?...[/conspiracy_theory]
"I happen to have three realtors on my doorstep..."
Shit, is this a new fad like pink flamingo's and garden gnomes?
"...and they sing the same song..." Aww, a triplet, do they dance too? If I tickle the right ones tummy, does he give me the key to your house?
Now I want realtors for my porch.
for 10 cents, I'd watch that... fuckit, i'd do it for free...
Or at the ISP's that arent "for" this?
You could start a petition, send it off to whatever ISP you are under, wether they are involved or not, couldnt hurt, provided you arent rude about it.
I agree.
I'm not defending Vista, im just perturbed by the "...the Ebox is unlikely to allow for the use of Vista, unless you're something of a masochist" remark, mostly because of the latter end of the sentence.
"...unlikely to allow..."
Does it have some sort of boot message? "A Vista Installation Has Been Detected, You Are Advised To Uninstall This Operating System And Return To The Operating System That Came With This Computer"
But im fine with that side, its worth noting that it may be incompetant in regards to running Vista, but its not designed to run Vista, so the masochistic remark is unwarranted unless it was advertised as having the requirements to do so, and then fails.
FTFA - "...but for now Asus is keeping the full spec to itself."
Perhaps when the details are listed in their entirety, and someone has personal experience with (or attempting to) run Vista on it, then you can call people masochists for further attempts.
FTFA - "Last month, Asus launched the Essentio CS5110 mini PC, is a multimedia SFF PC that again got Eee fans' hopes rising... until they saw that it runs Windows Vista."
So, it could be assumed, especially with 2GB's of memory, that it may indeed support (as far as performance specifications) Windows Vista.
"Fight Fire With Fire And Everything Will Burn"
"An Eye For An Eye Leaves Everyone Blind"
Frankly, I dont like Microsoft anymore, nor am I ignorant to their previous and current propoganda, but this incessant Anti-Vista nonsense doesn't do much but help advertise Vista, people who have yet to 'experience' Vista, will start because its mentioned so often, under the impression that its so atrociously horrible that its just going to be a comedic little endeavor worth some giggles, then realize its not quite as bad as "all that" and probably grow to like it (as far as common computer users go).
Your choice of quotes is ammusing though, because up until the last few years, Linux has been all of those things to the common "e-mail checking and web browsing" computer users. Which I am not saying is a bad thing, because it led a lot of people into a better understanding of how the operating system functions fundamentally, aswell as I myself enjoyed it because its abundance of options and configuration, and now that there are a lot of "User Friendly" linux distributions out there, those distributions have become bloated and glitchy just like Microsofts OS's have, its what the greater percentage of the user base wants.
Anyways, thats beside my point, and I dont see Microsoft touting how "The XBox runs Microsofts [whatever the fuck] better than Linux", no, because its not intended to. You can argue how it should all be open and any OS under the sun (no punn) should be able to run on anything, but thats also off course of the point.
Exactly, I wondered the same thing, its just trolling, it would almost be as relevant if the story before it about solar cells had something like "but they still can't produce enough electricity to run Vista" or "the brand new SMART car, has 5 extra horsepower over the last model, but it still can't pull a horse trailer"
It's not designed to run Vista, therefore it does not necessitate any reference to Vista, it probably wouldnt run Ubuntu very well either, or OSX... and it can't chew my food for me, so my food must suck too...
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Thats what I get, if only they had the power of a Slashdotting, they might be able to eliminate HIV...
That would be my suggestion aswell...
Besides, whatever client he is using, must have its own throttle, tell him/her to set it to like 75% of what the line can handle.
Some have timers too, so it can be 50/50 during multiple use, and 100% when he's the only one. Which is far easier than tweaking/hacking something you don't really use that often, and you may want to allow other software to use 100% (or as much as possible) on his machine (file sharing over the network, etc).
"I don't know, I could see a niche for this..."
There is, and from a profit, business stand-point I can understand why Slashdot would want to tap into that market, there are hundreds of "Put your bullshit here" sites, however the demand continues to grow faster than the supply.
If Slashdot wants to join in, go for it, thats their decision, but I dont think it should be merged into Slashdot, start another site, SlantDot or something...
Im not against little comedic stuff like this, or the Idle section itself, it was actually a good idea. But I think that the front page (or any of the main 'news' sections) should be for tech/science/economy/etc "stuff that matters"
This is rightly in the Idle section, and if you were just looking for something to pass a few minutes and maybe a giggle or two... "choose" to go to the Idle section... just like you would choose to wander around YouTube by itself without having Slashdot.
Weekend or not, I think most people expect Slashdot to provide informative "nerdy" things with a certain amount of dignity.
Of course 9/11 was an inside job... you had to be inside the little circle of people who did it!