That, plus Microsoft has used both McAfee and TrendMicro services in the past, for Hotmail, et al.
Maybe Microsoft isn't attacking, maybe they are defending their partners, because they have more weight than there "little buddies" and its actually the VirusScanner developers that are calling for this patent. That way it can remain the "Big 5" (or however many)... and those Big 5 can go against new and/or smaller VirusScanners...
Although, if Microsoft does plan on going after any of them... I hope they go after Symantec first, and are successful... and then, people will be outraged, and Microsofts doesnt go any further... I'd see that as a "Win Win"...
Oh, ok that makes more sense... I was under the impression that he (among others) had bought a new computer that came with XP installed, and he wanted to just return the OS but keep the computer.
Did he know it came with XP Pre-Installed?... If he did, I don't agree with this, if he didn't, then I do, provided it wasn't his own negligence.
ASUS (or wherever distributor) probably has the option of having a barebones components only option for purchasing, so do that, or at least ask if you can get one if its not advertised.
If it says "Comes With Windows XP Pre-Installed"... and he bought it, and then said "hey wait I dont want this"... too damn bad... keep the machine, or send the entire PC back... its not like it failed (jokes aside) as if it was a dud NIC or something...
"ASUS tried to apply a procedure which cost more money to the consumer that they will give back..."
Tried? it seemed to have worked.
Anyone have a more informative non-french link to exactly what he bought, and what was advertised, etc?
I Dont think XP does, or it would have shown up on my firewall somewhere (although I rarely play them, maybe it tries to phone home after X amount of hours played or something)
Vista, I really wouldnt doubt that it does, considering its already got other internet-connected stuff in its "Games"...thingymajiggy (has a centralized Control panel for the the default games, aswell as most you install afterwards)
But I havent used Vista much, so I dont know personally if it tries or not... but if it did, it would report that Chess has 100% usage, everything has none... there free Chess (made by someone-and-other) that comes with Vista is kickass...best part about Vista in my opinion...lol
Not that I agree with TwITter having multiple accounts, but 'it' does make valid comments fairly often. It may simply for the purpose of modding up his trolled accounts, or maybe just genuine comments, doesnt matter "why" it just matters what was said.
Mod down his trolls, and mod up his interesting/insightful/funny comments as you see fit, as you would anyone else.
Treating it differently just creates scepticism, more problems for the modding system. If everyone was wondering if the person had other accounts, and therefore was hesitant to moderate properly, or down-mods for the sake of spite, the system fails.
It wouldnt apply to on duty doctors. If they are not on duty/call (".") then they shouldn't have to have a phone with them at all times, its a choice, just like anyone else.
They just have a responsability if someone falls ill in the theatre or some sort of arbitrary distance from it.
But yes, I agree. Although, I think I would agree more if there was a built in function that once someone entered an area where phones can become annoying, it automatically switches it to vibrate, or even just turns it down to 25% volume or something. However conversations should not be allowed without leaving said area. Most phones now have texting abilities, and also display the caller number/name so you know if it needs to be answered or not.
I agree... well, half agree, the other half disagree's...
Sure, some "take a chance" and end up failing, upon which, they should be fired, or sent back, even though often don't...
However, some people are just (arguably) born "wif da skrillz" and can get going sooner, than having to waste a bunch of time building a resume and getting papers with fancy symbols on them...
But, I also think that people under the age of 35 should be able to run for Presidency (of the Government)... for the same reason, infact I think it would do the country (whichever country it may be) a lot of good, even if the candidacy was only allowed every 5th election or something.
But, no matter how many hoops people have to jump through, there will always be people who are bad at it, and those that are good, may aswell give them a chance earlier on...
How long before there is some sort of "Drop Your Cell Phones Off Here" at the entrance to major stores and malls... kinda like how there used to be (and in some places still is) ones for weapons.
Although, obviously the stores themselves wouldnt do this, but once this gets more publicity, or more adoption from other stores, there might be some sort of Anti-Tracking organization that will do it...
"This Store Doesn't Track You"
I don't own a cell phone, and probably never will (by choice), but as anti-tracking as I am, this is the least of my worries, infact if it was "open" it could really be benificial in some cases...
"Excuse me, I left something somewhere in this mall, my Cell Phone ID# is 8675309, could you give me a map of where I was today?"
or...
"I can't find my kid, but she has a cell phone, its ID# is 1337K1D, where are they?"
But, alas, the drawbacks far outweigh the benifits as far as im concerned.
Granted, the effect is magnified by billions of times with a blackhole, the source is still being obscured slightly as it passes various objects, even if those objects only effect the light via gravitation and not direct refraction, nothing we see is exactly what it (theoretically) looks like given that there isnt a pure vacuumous void absent of everything including the light itself...lol
Its all distorted to some degree, which, I would also consider obscured.
Yes, as far as I am aware, "obscure" means to make less than whole, make unclear, or even make rare, etc.
So diffusion, by means of gravitational pull is a form (or an act?) of obscuring the object by diffusing the light emitting/reflecting from the object.
It does not matter how fractionally small this diffusion is, the point is... it is diffusing the light.
And I really dont understand how you made the greater distance seem less important, like the flashlight gets effected more in its span of 10 feet than trillions of miles or whatever in a light year...
If the ray of light is bent/redirected, even if its basically infinitely small, means it could be thousands of miles of course by the time it gets here... its not like light travels in famillies, and there are parent photons making the child photons come back on course...
Because it seems too much like a toy to me, aswell as backwards... not that Windows or Linux is really that much different, but im right handed, so I naturally want most of the controls to be on the right (min/max/close/etc)... its just an OCD preference of sorts... I realize that a lot of it can be changed, but still, centered dialog buttons, etc...
And its not really that I havent used Mac's enough, after Commodore & Atari, Mac's were my first Computer, and remained up until about 1998...
Once I got more "into" computers, how they worked, and using them for more than word processing and the odd Game (Quagmire, SimCity, etc)... I found them really impeeding... and switched to Windows... a year later, added Linux (almost every computer since has been Dual, sometimes Tri Boot)
I havent even touched a Mac since early 2002... I'm not saying that Mac's are useless, they are wonderful for standard Media (Video, Images, Audio)... but outside of that, I can't handle them for Programming, or 3D, or even more intense 2D... which is mostly what I do...
Hmm... granted im speaking for myself, but I have never found any Linux distro to take signifigantly longer than any Windows or Mac to boot up... I think its mostly a perceptual thing, you probably prefer, and have gotten used to how your Windows or Mac boots up, and therefore any difference to that seems like it takes longer...
If you have 2 computers, one has a single boot screen... takes 30 seconds to boot... fine...
The second, has 3 boot screens, and the cursor is visible while booting, yet still only takes 30 seconds... it "feels" like it takes longer, because more things have happened, and becuase the cursor is visible, you mentally start thinking "I can do stuff"...but you cant...
Same with the cursor, its generally a perceptual thing... if the cursor stays 'Normal' but you cant do anything yet, it seems quicker than if the cursor changes to 'Wait' and you cant do anything...
Some distro's have figured this out... some havent... even Microsoft, improved some aspects of it with Vista, but also made some worse... and frankly, I dont care about Mac at all...
Shit man, are you comparing the current state of Linux...to... DOS?... (knows you werent)
My current usability ranking:
1. Windows 2. Linux 3. ????? 4. MacOS
Where ????? includes anything from BSD/Unix/OS2/Solaris/etc and even DOS, and probably most scientific calculators aswell... as far as im concerned, if Windows is 100%, then Linux is at about 98%... and its mostly just the installation of software that keeps it from matching Windows... once the whole automated dependancy checking (et al) has been figured out and incorporated into the main Distro's... Linux could almost take Windows overnight...and by the time thats resolved, it probably will since most of the major software people bitch about not being on Linux, is actively trying to make Linux versions...
Slashdot Mirror
Indeed... I was ok with "Idle" being its own little sub-section that you had to choose to go to... but not making the front page.
News For Nerds, Stuff That Matters.
Is now...
News For Sheeple, Stuff That Doesnt Matter.
That, plus Microsoft has used both McAfee and TrendMicro services in the past, for Hotmail, et al.
Maybe Microsoft isn't attacking, maybe they are defending their partners, because they have more weight than there "little buddies" and its actually the VirusScanner developers that are calling for this patent. That way it can remain the "Big 5" (or however many)... and those Big 5 can go against new and/or smaller VirusScanners...
Although, if Microsoft does plan on going after any of them... I hope they go after Symantec first, and are successful... and then, people will be outraged, and Microsofts doesnt go any further... I'd see that as a "Win Win"...
A type of acid... used in some plastics.
or... Flatulent... but I think that just causes hormonal problems with your wife...
Dude? Get Off My PEBKAC...
Problem
Exists
Between
Keyboard
And
Chair
For anyone wondering...
"...Mac, Windows, or Unix..."
[nitpicking] Ahh, but Linux is impervious [/nitpicking]
But... isnt a house on a dung hill, better than just standing on a dung hill by itself?
Especially since, you can make the air seem a little more fresh with freshners, take a shower, get out of the sun, etc.
Yeah, thats basically it, post the artical with that answer, end of discussion.
Google has 52,600,000 results for "Slashdot" but its only the first two that matter (.org, and wikipedia... followed by the page for every section)
Oh, ok that makes more sense... I was under the impression that he (among others) had bought a new computer that came with XP installed, and he wanted to just return the OS but keep the computer.
Did he know it came with XP Pre-Installed?... If he did, I don't agree with this, if he didn't, then I do, provided it wasn't his own negligence.
ASUS (or wherever distributor) probably has the option of having a barebones components only option for purchasing, so do that, or at least ask if you can get one if its not advertised.
If it says "Comes With Windows XP Pre-Installed"... and he bought it, and then said "hey wait I dont want this"... too damn bad... keep the machine, or send the entire PC back... its not like it failed (jokes aside) as if it was a dud NIC or something...
"ASUS tried to apply a procedure which cost more money to the consumer that they will give back..."
Tried? it seemed to have worked.
Anyone have a more informative non-french link to exactly what he bought, and what was advertised, etc?
"their" (just to thwart corrections)
"...does windows XP and later 'phone home'..."
I Dont think XP does, or it would have shown up on my firewall somewhere (although I rarely play them, maybe it tries to phone home after X amount of hours played or something)
Vista, I really wouldnt doubt that it does, considering its already got other internet-connected stuff in its "Games"...thingymajiggy (has a centralized Control panel for the the default games, aswell as most you install afterwards)
But I havent used Vista much, so I dont know personally if it tries or not... but if it did, it would report that Chess has 100% usage, everything has none... there free Chess (made by someone-and-other) that comes with Vista is kickass...best part about Vista in my opinion...lol
"Can Solitaire really eat up more hours than have been sacrificed to Tetris?"
On a Per-Person level, I think there are more people that have spent 20 hours in a day playing Tetris, than Windows Solitaire.
But, I think more people play Solitaire than play(ed) Tetris, so collectively its more hours.
So?
Not that I agree with TwITter having multiple accounts, but 'it' does make valid comments fairly often. It may simply for the purpose of modding up his trolled accounts, or maybe just genuine comments, doesnt matter "why" it just matters what was said.
Mod down his trolls, and mod up his interesting/insightful/funny comments as you see fit, as you would anyone else.
Treating it differently just creates scepticism, more problems for the modding system. If everyone was wondering if the person had other accounts, and therefore was hesitant to moderate properly, or down-mods for the sake of spite, the system fails.
"...it wouldn't apply to doctors..."
It wouldnt apply to on duty doctors. If they are not on duty/call (".") then they shouldn't have to have a phone with them at all times, its a choice, just like anyone else.
They just have a responsability if someone falls ill in the theatre or some sort of arbitrary distance from it.
But yes, I agree. Although, I think I would agree more if there was a built in function that once someone entered an area where phones can become annoying, it automatically switches it to vibrate, or even just turns it down to 25% volume or something. However conversations should not be allowed without leaving said area. Most phones now have texting abilities, and also display the caller number/name so you know if it needs to be answered or not.
I agree... well, half agree, the other half disagree's...
Sure, some "take a chance" and end up failing, upon which, they should be fired, or sent back, even though often don't...
However, some people are just (arguably) born "wif da skrillz" and can get going sooner, than having to waste a bunch of time building a resume and getting papers with fancy symbols on them...
But, I also think that people under the age of 35 should be able to run for Presidency (of the Government)... for the same reason, infact I think it would do the country (whichever country it may be) a lot of good, even if the candidacy was only allowed every 5th election or something.
But, no matter how many hoops people have to jump through, there will always be people who are bad at it, and those that are good, may aswell give them a chance earlier on...
How long before there is some sort of "Drop Your Cell Phones Off Here" at the entrance to major stores and malls... kinda like how there used to be (and in some places still is) ones for weapons.
Although, obviously the stores themselves wouldnt do this, but once this gets more publicity, or more adoption from other stores, there might be some sort of Anti-Tracking organization that will do it...
"This Store Doesn't Track You"
I don't own a cell phone, and probably never will (by choice), but as anti-tracking as I am, this is the least of my worries, infact if it was "open" it could really be benificial in some cases...
"Excuse me, I left something somewhere in this mall, my Cell Phone ID# is 8675309, could you give me a map of where I was today?"
or...
"I can't find my kid, but she has a cell phone, its ID# is 1337K1D, where are they?"
But, alas, the drawbacks far outweigh the benifits as far as im concerned.
Yeah im aware of that, but I would consider that, on some level, obscuring the light...
From the wiki you suggested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:BlackHole_Lensing_2.gif
Granted, the effect is magnified by billions of times with a blackhole, the source is still being obscured slightly as it passes various objects, even if those objects only effect the light via gravitation and not direct refraction, nothing we see is exactly what it (theoretically) looks like given that there isnt a pure vacuumous void absent of everything including the light itself...lol
Its all distorted to some degree, which, I would also consider obscured.
Yes, as far as I am aware, "obscure" means to make less than whole, make unclear, or even make rare, etc.
So diffusion, by means of gravitational pull is a form (or an act?) of obscuring the object by diffusing the light emitting/reflecting from the object.
It does not matter how fractionally small this diffusion is, the point is... it is diffusing the light.
And I really dont understand how you made the greater distance seem less important, like the flashlight gets effected more in its span of 10 feet than trillions of miles or whatever in a light year...
If the ray of light is bent/redirected, even if its basically infinitely small, means it could be thousands of miles of course by the time it gets here... its not like light travels in famillies, and there are parent photons making the child photons come back on course...
Because it seems too much like a toy to me, aswell as backwards... not that Windows or Linux is really that much different, but im right handed, so I naturally want most of the controls to be on the right (min/max/close/etc)... its just an OCD preference of sorts... I realize that a lot of it can be changed, but still, centered dialog buttons, etc...
And its not really that I havent used Mac's enough, after Commodore & Atari, Mac's were my first Computer, and remained up until about 1998...
Once I got more "into" computers, how they worked, and using them for more than word processing and the odd Game (Quagmire, SimCity, etc)... I found them really impeeding... and switched to Windows... a year later, added Linux (almost every computer since has been Dual, sometimes Tri Boot)
I havent even touched a Mac since early 2002... I'm not saying that Mac's are useless, they are wonderful for standard Media (Video, Images, Audio)... but outside of that, I can't handle them for Programming, or 3D, or even more intense 2D... which is mostly what I do...
"except to bend the light through gravitious pull"
... :P
hence, "obscure"
lol... shit, I was actually serious/complimenting the guy... 137 is the lowest UID ive seen I think...
Hmm... granted im speaking for myself, but I have never found any Linux distro to take signifigantly longer than any Windows or Mac to boot up... I think its mostly a perceptual thing, you probably prefer, and have gotten used to how your Windows or Mac boots up, and therefore any difference to that seems like it takes longer...
If you have 2 computers, one has a single boot screen... takes 30 seconds to boot... fine...
The second, has 3 boot screens, and the cursor is visible while booting, yet still only takes 30 seconds... it "feels" like it takes longer, because more things have happened, and becuase the cursor is visible, you mentally start thinking "I can do stuff"...but you cant...
Same with the cursor, its generally a perceptual thing... if the cursor stays 'Normal' but you cant do anything yet, it seems quicker than if the cursor changes to 'Wait' and you cant do anything...
Some distro's have figured this out... some havent... even Microsoft, improved some aspects of it with Vista, but also made some worse... and frankly, I dont care about Mac at all...
Shit man, are you comparing the current state of Linux...to... DOS?... (knows you werent)
My current usability ranking:
1. Windows
2. Linux
3. ?????
4. MacOS
Where ????? includes anything from BSD/Unix/OS2/Solaris/etc and even DOS, and probably most scientific calculators aswell... as far as im concerned, if Windows is 100%, then Linux is at about 98%... and its mostly just the installation of software that keeps it from matching Windows... once the whole automated dependancy checking (et al) has been figured out and incorporated into the main Distro's... Linux could almost take Windows overnight...and by the time thats resolved, it probably will since most of the major software people bitch about not being on Linux, is actively trying to make Linux versions...
Geezus... yer so 1337 that they hadn't even developed the second 3 yet...
He's skinny... better mobility...