Ideally I'd have a link to back this up (heck, I can't even be certain it happened, I heard it at least third hand). But nonetheless, thanks for clarifying to MindPixel that just because it did something unexpected, doesn't mean it defied the laws of the universe. (I gotta find a link tho...)
..of something I once heard (sorry, no links.. I'd love to see'em if you've got'em tho). As I remember it, the US Navy had created a program that would simulate a fleet of ships. I believe the computer intelligence would fight against a real human directing his own fleet. Anyway, after a while the computer started kicking some serious human tail. The victory rate for the computer was so high that they began to question what was going on. As it turns out, the computer had essentially learned that its fleet was only as fast as its slowest ship, and so it began blowing up its own slower ships, cutting the fat so it could easily overtake the humans, who would never think of doing such a thing. I laughed out loud when I heard it told originally..
Not in MacOS... last time I tried that on MacOS 8.x and 9, it didn't work
Yes in MacOS. I dunno when that started, but it seems to me that it's been there just about forever. (Way before OS 8, but I guess I could be wrong..) Anyway that feature has been there forever. The only way you don't get that is if you don't use the standard API for text, TextEdit. In which case.. well.. we're not comparing OSes, but rather applications. Anyhoo.. I still do wish there were keyboard shortcuts for other stuff...
He was talking about making a keyword list, was he not? I doubt DeCSS would be on that list.. but regardless. (Maybe it would. Who knows.) So you go to the laundry place, and are shocked to see that you can't buy something that they have decided you shouldn't use their bandwidth for. Explain to me how this is such a horrible thing. You are using their bandwidth and hardware, correct? They administer it, own it, and have all the powers and rights of ownership over it, correct? So what am I missing here?
Who makes those decisions, eh?
In his particular case I don't think that's relevant. And like I said.. I don't think it's such a horrible oppressive thing that the laundry place tell you what you can and cannot do with their hardware, software, bandwidth, and time. There are a million and one places you could buy your DeCSS t-shirt. What do you do when you go into a gas station looking for a loaf of bread, and they don't have one? You go to a grocery store.
Yeah, there's a reas "issue" here. But I think that opposing filtering software simply because you're for free speech is silly. The place is open to the public, and it is entirely within their rights to do what they want with their resources. Denying them any control over their own resources would seem to me to be a real breach of rights.
You're doing the public a service. You'd like to keep what is displayed there "clean". So do it. If someone wants porn they can go buy a magazine or find another place to get it online, or even find a way around your "security". It's not your job to control what is done on your boxes (from my understanding), it's your job to try and keep it clean. If someone defeats your security.. well big deal. It happens. But don't feel like you're doing something immoral or wrong just because you're making it difficult to stumble upon porn, or whatever. "Freedom of speech" is not being hampered, no one is being oppressed. You're being helpful to the community, not hurting it. Don't worry.
I hate it when people say "alot". As in, "I like Linux alot." GAHHH there's no such word as "alot"! (And nobody say anything about the fact that I put punctuation outside my quotes, I'm a coder, I can't help it!!! [And anyway, isn't that what they do in England? SO PBTHBTPBTBT!!!])
A book I'd recommend to any coder in any language is "Thinking Forth", by Leo Brodie (a Forth classic). It's a truly good book, essentially teaching you how to write good, fast, efficient code. Very insightful. Anyway there was a quote in it, and I forget who said it.. someone post it if you know. Anyway the quote was something like this: "The best way to do something is to do it twice." And I think that's *very* true. Sure, you can solve the problem the first time. But if you do it once, and then go back to the beginning and do it all over, you'll be amazed at the silly things you did the first time..
I'm wondering how this type of thing (modified, of course) could be used for stereo pairs. I mean sure, storing geometric data is great. But I'd love a way to store compressed, full stereo pairs that was standardized. I dunno if wavelets would be the way to go (don't know much about'em really) but while compressed stereograms and compressed geometry would be used for 2 totally different things, I think a good (GOOD) compression algorithm for stereo pairs couldn't hurt. It'd be just the thing to use in the new home theater.;) Seems to me that comparing full stereo pairs to saving geometry is like, oh.. comparing MPEG video to vector animations. Yeah, it'll give you *huge* savings, and give you some darned cool (and useful) features. But we still use MPEG video... I dunno. Just blabbering.;)
..but the studies and samples I've looked at for using wavelets to compress graphics were.. um.. well, they weren't anything special. At all. Bad? No. Revolutionary? Bahaha...
We all know the keyboard isn't going anywhere for a very very long time. It's silly to think that we're even close to losing it entirely. But it's also silly to think that Apple is dumb enough to think that they can throw out everyone's keyboards and actually sell their products. Come on, people, let's not be ridiculous. You can't play hardly any games without them, can't type worth squat, can't do much on the web, can't write emails well... Do you all *really* think Apple is so dumb as to basically put everyone back in kindergarten of data entry? Of course they're not. Maybe this is real. But it won't *replace* the keyboard on a laptop. Maybe it'll replace the keyboard on a web-pad or something. Maybe it'll just be an additional feature for their future laptops. But you can rest assured that Apple is not planning on taking away your precious keyboards.
"Invasion of privacy..." That sounds kind of like a personal thing you're referring to. Like my privacy while I'm on the jon, or your privacy while you talk to your doctor about your anal warts. Frankly I think the NSA really doesn't care a whole lot about my stool or your anal warts, and I think the same could be said for the emails we send back and forth, etc. We are nobodies. We raise no red flags, we have no affect or influence on anything. As far as the "privacy" of.. oh.. enemy governments and things.. I don't think the term "privacy" has the same meaning as we're used to. War is war, national security is national security. I dunno. I just don't think the NSA is doing half as much "invasion of privacy" as everyone seems to think. They have real jobs, real targets to monitor.. far better things to do than "invade my privacy" or anyone else's. Really, every conspiracy is a lot of fun to think about, but it's like magic. When you actually know what's going on, you're so disappointed that you wish you didn't even bother to learn the truth...
I'll admit I don't know much about this. Just some casual interest. Anyway, I wrote a paper a while back about quantum teleportation. It's been successfully done with photons. Anyway, quantum teleportation uses something of a "loophole" to teleport the particle (in most cases photons. And no, it's not really a "loophole"..). Won't go into it much but... you're right, the act of observing something disturbs it. Thus you could not have traditional repeaters, that would work by reading and duplicating the signal. QT, tho, doesn't make a measurement at all, thus leaving the data intact. I dunno. This is probably far from feasible now, (and I'm talking out my butt;) but it was just a thought.. (and as for "Minds, Machines, and the Multiverse.." haven't read it, but if it has a bunch of hooey about multiple dimensions and physics, I dunno if I wanna read it...;)
The first time I saw a Penis Bird I laughed. The thousandth time, I just sighed. But whatever, I can handle a Penis Bird in this forum. But one thing that I loved about Kuro5hin was that there weren't any people like you. Wasting everyone's time with their crap. Now of course it was bound to come eventually. I was really starting to like K5 tho. They did a lot of things right. The idea of Karma is just silly. The idea that a bitchslapped account can still exist is silly. There's some things Slashdot needs to change. When people get moderated down as far as you have, there is no longer any use for that account at all. They should throw it away. People shouldn't get 5 mod points once in a while, everyone should be able to say if they like or dislike a post. K5's floating-point (averaged) moderation system is what Slashdot should use. The +1 bonus? It's absolutely ridiculous. No one deserves their post to float above the other, often better posts. We have people like Enoch Root, Signal 11, JonKatz.. Taco himself deserves no +1 bonus. It shouldn't exist. The list of things that are wrong goes on and on. And not allowing ACs to post.. yeah, we shouldn't have to worry about spammer idiots, but they're there.
Ok sorry for the rant everyone.;) Hm, I'm doing too many of those lately... Anyway. I guess this probably deserves to be modded Troll or Offtopic or Flamebait.. As you see fit. Had to spew.;)
.."These airplane things will never catch on. Those silly Wright Brothers. Look at them. 12 seconds in the air.. Now who would want that?"
Yeah well, bad analogy.;) My point is.. it is not the concept that is dead. It's the people's minds who are making these things, because I've been dying for some for years but there aren't any on the market that I would buy. Oh well... (yeah I need sleep, canya tell?)
That makes 12 hours in 2 days that I've been staring at a stereoscopic display. No, these things are not "dangerous". Hey, some people get seizures when their TV flickers. Anyway, I think to so quickly dismiss the fact that most humans are born with stereo vision and that it is a large part of our sensory input is silly. But then maybe I'm biased. I've been doing this kind of stuff since I was a kid (drawing stereograms by hand, etc), and my eye muscles do pretty much whatever I want them to. (Ever see anyone dilate their pupils on command? I can.:) Ah well. I'll take your 3D TV when you get it..;)
I didn't see any posts like that at all. You missed the most obvious ones for this type of article, tho: "It sucks that it's coming out so late!" and the "It's progress for the platform."
Hear, hear (here here?)! It amazes me that we support such utter crap software. I remember way back when, hearing about Mozilla being a fast, stable, standards compliant, lean piece of work. I have since given up all hope of waiting for it. There is literally NO valid reason that they can't put out a decent browser. Oh, but it needs XML you say. It needs mail, and news, and a freaking kitchen sink, because sometimes I like to check mail while washing the dishes. We tolerate too much crap in this industry. Why does it take 2 minutes to startup my computer? Why not 10 seconds, or even 2? Bloat and laziness, is why. (And don't even give me any BS about how it really does take that long.. all that means is we've designed everything bad from the ground up, which is my point exactly.) It's what we teach in our schools, what we drive to work, and what we eat for breakfast.
Ok. I guess everyone noticed I'm an efficiency freak.:P Guess I'll go back to my Forth code, and my dreams of a world in which the source for the newest OS takes 5 minutes to download on a 14.4 and 10 seconds to compile on a 486 (and blows the doors off the ill-designed bloatware we call our "modern OSes").;)
Agreed. I will admit that no matter how you look at it, they DO look pretty darned real. I could go either way on this one. Guess we'll see in the morning. (I'm not foolish enough to make the claims MacJunkie did: He may well find thousands of Slashdotters with torches and pitchforks waiting for him to eat his mouse...;)
Take a look at the logos. At first I thought, "Well that's a darned good fake! Good chance it's real!" But take a second to look at the logos. He points out the second one, but I thought the first one looked really fake. See at the upper-left of it?
Anyhoo, whether it's a fake or not, I'm dying to see what they unveil. People will bitch and moan about it no matter what, but you can bet it'll be pretty darned cool despite some weird stuff you know Apple will throw in.;-)
Speaking of RPN, my favorite programming language is Forth. It's basically an RPN programming language. There is no syntax. Strikes you as pretty odd at first, but the elegance is incredibly beautiful. Forth is so darned elegant it's crazy. There were guys that could write a full Forth for an 8-bit Z80 in a day. Most (at the time) were about 2k of code, while a "massive" multi-tasking Forth operating system capable of effortlessly serving 100 users simultaneously weighed in at under 20k.
But anyway I'd better throw in a comment or two to the people that will say "Forth is outdated, use a real language" (I get so tired of hearing crap like that..) To them I say, obviously you have no clue at all what Forth is. It's a language, but more importantly it's a technic. A philosophy. You can write Forth code in Java or Scheme or whatever you want. It's a mindset of elegance, speed, efficiency, and (most importantly) simplicity. There's even processors based on Forth (try designing a processor after the inner workings of Java or Scheme..). In fact one of them (the F21) costs $2 in quantity, has 7000 transistors (compared to ~5 million of a Pentium), is built on an outdated fab process, and STILL gets nearly 500 MIPS (try THAT on the Pentium), and gets power ratings fit to make the Crusoe look like a short circuit. The PostScript language is related to Forth, and that is what gives it the flexibility it has. Forth can be an operating system (as mentioned earlier), it's incredibly flexible. It's perfect for robotics and stuff like that.. OpenFirmware (or OpenBoot) is nothing more than a Forth operating system you can boot into before the monitor even warms up (usually used to load your other OS). Anyway, I could go on for pages but that's probably not welcome...;-)
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Yes in MacOS. I dunno when that started, but it seems to me that it's been there just about forever. (Way before OS 8, but I guess I could be wrong..) Anyway that feature has been there forever. The only way you don't get that is if you don't use the standard API for text, TextEdit. In which case.. well.. we're not comparing OSes, but rather applications. Anyhoo.. I still do wish there were keyboard shortcuts for other stuff...
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Like the Linux search section.
He was talking about making a keyword list, was he not? I doubt DeCSS would be on that list.. but regardless. (Maybe it would. Who knows.) So you go to the laundry place, and are shocked to see that you can't buy something that they have decided you shouldn't use their bandwidth for. Explain to me how this is such a horrible thing. You are using their bandwidth and hardware, correct? They administer it, own it, and have all the powers and rights of ownership over it, correct? So what am I missing here?
In his particular case I don't think that's relevant. And like I said.. I don't think it's such a horrible oppressive thing that the laundry place tell you what you can and cannot do with their hardware, software, bandwidth, and time. There are a million and one places you could buy your DeCSS t-shirt. What do you do when you go into a gas station looking for a loaf of bread, and they don't have one? You go to a grocery store.Yeah, there's a reas "issue" here. But I think that opposing filtering software simply because you're for free speech is silly. The place is open to the public, and it is entirely within their rights to do what they want with their resources. Denying them any control over their own resources would seem to me to be a real breach of rights.
You're doing the public a service. You'd like to keep what is displayed there "clean". So do it. If someone wants porn they can go buy a magazine or find another place to get it online, or even find a way around your "security". It's not your job to control what is done on your boxes (from my understanding), it's your job to try and keep it clean. If someone defeats your security.. well big deal. It happens. But don't feel like you're doing something immoral or wrong just because you're making it difficult to stumble upon porn, or whatever. "Freedom of speech" is not being hampered, no one is being oppressed. You're being helpful to the community, not hurting it. Don't worry.
A book I'd recommend to any coder in any language is "Thinking Forth", by Leo Brodie (a Forth classic). It's a truly good book, essentially teaching you how to write good, fast, efficient code. Very insightful. Anyway there was a quote in it, and I forget who said it.. someone post it if you know. Anyway the quote was something like this: "The best way to do something is to do it twice." And I think that's *very* true. Sure, you can solve the problem the first time. But if you do it once, and then go back to the beginning and do it all over, you'll be amazed at the silly things you did the first time..
I'm wondering how this type of thing (modified, of course) could be used for stereo pairs. I mean sure, storing geometric data is great. But I'd love a way to store compressed, full stereo pairs that was standardized. I dunno if wavelets would be the way to go (don't know much about'em really) but while compressed stereograms and compressed geometry would be used for 2 totally different things, I think a good (GOOD) compression algorithm for stereo pairs couldn't hurt. It'd be just the thing to use in the new home theater. ;) Seems to me that comparing full stereo pairs to saving geometry is like, oh.. comparing MPEG video to vector animations. Yeah, it'll give you *huge* savings, and give you some darned cool (and useful) features. But we still use MPEG video... I dunno. Just blabbering. ;)
..but the studies and samples I've looked at for using wavelets to compress graphics were.. um.. well, they weren't anything special. At all. Bad? No. Revolutionary? Bahaha...
I'm backing you, buddy! Screw karma, trolls go home!
We all know the keyboard isn't going anywhere for a very very long time. It's silly to think that we're even close to losing it entirely. But it's also silly to think that Apple is dumb enough to think that they can throw out everyone's keyboards and actually sell their products. Come on, people, let's not be ridiculous. You can't play hardly any games without them, can't type worth squat, can't do much on the web, can't write emails well... Do you all *really* think Apple is so dumb as to basically put everyone back in kindergarten of data entry? Of course they're not. Maybe this is real. But it won't *replace* the keyboard on a laptop. Maybe it'll replace the keyboard on a web-pad or something. Maybe it'll just be an additional feature for their future laptops. But you can rest assured that Apple is not planning on taking away your precious keyboards.
"Invasion of privacy..." That sounds kind of like a personal thing you're referring to. Like my privacy while I'm on the jon, or your privacy while you talk to your doctor about your anal warts. Frankly I think the NSA really doesn't care a whole lot about my stool or your anal warts, and I think the same could be said for the emails we send back and forth, etc. We are nobodies. We raise no red flags, we have no affect or influence on anything. As far as the "privacy" of.. oh.. enemy governments and things.. I don't think the term "privacy" has the same meaning as we're used to. War is war, national security is national security. I dunno. I just don't think the NSA is doing half as much "invasion of privacy" as everyone seems to think. They have real jobs, real targets to monitor.. far better things to do than "invade my privacy" or anyone else's. Really, every conspiracy is a lot of fun to think about, but it's like magic. When you actually know what's going on, you're so disappointed that you wish you didn't even bother to learn the truth...
..who is watching the watcher's watchers?
I'll admit I don't know much about this. Just some casual interest. Anyway, I wrote a paper a while back about quantum teleportation. It's been successfully done with photons. Anyway, quantum teleportation uses something of a "loophole" to teleport the particle (in most cases photons. And no, it's not really a "loophole"..). Won't go into it much but... you're right, the act of observing something disturbs it. Thus you could not have traditional repeaters, that would work by reading and duplicating the signal. QT, tho, doesn't make a measurement at all, thus leaving the data intact. I dunno. This is probably far from feasible now, (and I'm talking out my butt ;) but it was just a thought.. (and as for "Minds, Machines, and the Multiverse.." haven't read it, but if it has a bunch of hooey about multiple dimensions and physics, I dunno if I wanna read it... ;)
Ok sorry for the rant everyone. ;) Hm, I'm doing too many of those lately... Anyway. I guess this probably deserves to be modded Troll or Offtopic or Flamebait.. As you see fit. Had to spew. ;)
Yeah well, bad analogy. ;) My point is.. it is not the concept that is dead. It's the people's minds who are making these things, because I've been dying for some for years but there aren't any on the market that I would buy. Oh well... (yeah I need sleep, canya tell?)
That makes 12 hours in 2 days that I've been staring at a stereoscopic display. No, these things are not "dangerous". Hey, some people get seizures when their TV flickers. Anyway, I think to so quickly dismiss the fact that most humans are born with stereo vision and that it is a large part of our sensory input is silly. But then maybe I'm biased. I've been doing this kind of stuff since I was a kid (drawing stereograms by hand, etc), and my eye muscles do pretty much whatever I want them to. (Ever see anyone dilate their pupils on command? I can. :) Ah well. I'll take your 3D TV when you get it.. ;)
I didn't see any posts like that at all. You missed the most obvious ones for this type of article, tho: "It sucks that it's coming out so late!" and the "It's progress for the platform."
Ok. I guess everyone noticed I'm an efficiency freak. :P Guess I'll go back to my Forth code, and my dreams of a world in which the source for the newest OS takes 5 minutes to download on a 14.4 and 10 seconds to compile on a 486 (and blows the doors off the ill-designed bloatware we call our "modern OSes"). ;)
Agreed. I will admit that no matter how you look at it, they DO look pretty darned real. I could go either way on this one. Guess we'll see in the morning. (I'm not foolish enough to make the claims MacJunkie did: He may well find thousands of Slashdotters with torches and pitchforks waiting for him to eat his mouse... ;)
Anyhoo, whether it's a fake or not, I'm dying to see what they unveil. People will bitch and moan about it no matter what, but you can bet it'll be pretty darned cool despite some weird stuff you know Apple will throw in. ;-)
..was much better! Now they've gone and cheesed it up! Grrrr... Used to like that show..
But anyway I'd better throw in a comment or two to the people that will say "Forth is outdated, use a real language" (I get so tired of hearing crap like that..) To them I say, obviously you have no clue at all what Forth is. It's a language, but more importantly it's a technic. A philosophy. You can write Forth code in Java or Scheme or whatever you want. It's a mindset of elegance, speed, efficiency, and (most importantly) simplicity. There's even processors based on Forth (try designing a processor after the inner workings of Java or Scheme..). In fact one of them (the F21) costs $2 in quantity, has 7000 transistors (compared to ~5 million of a Pentium), is built on an outdated fab process, and STILL gets nearly 500 MIPS (try THAT on the Pentium), and gets power ratings fit to make the Crusoe look like a short circuit. The PostScript language is related to Forth, and that is what gives it the flexibility it has. Forth can be an operating system (as mentioned earlier), it's incredibly flexible. It's perfect for robotics and stuff like that.. OpenFirmware (or OpenBoot) is nothing more than a Forth operating system you can boot into before the monitor even warms up (usually used to load your other OS). Anyway, I could go on for pages but that's probably not welcome... ;-)
Ok sorry for the rant. ;-)