I guess what the rest of the world hates is that we're able to do the math. 100,000 or 10 million? Yup. They must hate us because we are beautiful. Your logic is as staggering as our President's.
FYI, Japan had offered to surrender before we dropped the FIRST bomb. We had already defeated them. How do you know it would have been 10 million casualties? Can you magically predict the past's future?
Gas stations have such big conspicuous outdoor price signs that it must be required by law, but is that state or federal law? Out of curiosity, I just tried to find such laws, but I could only find one for Cleveland.. Wikipedia also doesn't state anything about laws requiring them. It's odd because, without exception, all the gas stations around do the exact same thing. Wikipedia states it's because of high competition.
throwing out glib comments you read on some web forum does not equate to actual business experience. What on earth does the GNU Library (glib) have to do with this?
Anyway, your argument flew out the window the second you mentioned naked supermodels delivering free pizza..
So long as you can read large text at the top of every page, and click clearly-offered links, you can read the documentation for dev version, or for any stable release we've ever done. My comment was a "be aware" one, and have you ever spent time in #django before? If you have, you will know how many people miss that "large text" at the top of every page... including myself when it came to newforms.
And as for VNC and friends, well, if they didn't change that code they don't need to give you the source either. No. If they statically linked to GPL code, they are obliged to hand over their source code to whoever they distribute to.
Whether it's Ruby on Rails, or Django, most developers will have to learn a new language. Python has a book available online: Dive into Python. I found it very easy to switch from C/C++/PHP to python. Django does have a slight learning curve though. Oh, and be aware, the Django documentation online is for their SVN version! Most likely NOT your distro's version. They are still under heavy development.
There was a good video, although outdated (2005), that had two of the main developers of Django and RoR. The video is quite long (3hrs), so I'll link to the Google Video Search. The second and third are each person's presentation, and the fourth, which I recommend, is a Q/A session.
I'm not too interested in the main alternative either. The Citizen's Debate Commission (CDC) had a lot of support running up to the 2004 election, but when it came time to organize the debate, they excluded every party except for the Democrats and Republicans. Not to mention they were completely ignored by the only two parties that they were allowing. These two parties have a monopoly over the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) considering it was a bipartisan secret agreement that created it in the first place.
I know this isn't a vote, but I second for calling it 'monochrome'
1. Obviously, it has the direct association with the mono project.
2. Silver is somewhat analogous to chrome.. (alright alright it really isn't)
3. Every artist knows what monochromatic is.. as in having to do with color and light.
Miguel, I think the choice should be obvious unless there are legal issues with calling it 'monochrome'.
Avoiding any air-resistance, you don't need some gravity-from-the-moon argument to show that the hammer will hit first. It's quite clear from the equation that the hammer will hit before the feather. The extreme mass of the Earth relative to both hammer and feather makes the difference in acceleration practically irrelevant. Nevertheless, the hammer does hit first.
..nothing in the constitution forbids direct wealth transfer as a right "Wealth Transfer"? That's a nice euphemism for stealing.
All enforcement of individual rights requires sacrifice from the whole. Can we both agree that our differences lie in what constitutes individual rights? If so, then I'd argue that Libertarians do not ignore the 9th amendment. We simply believe that these rights are defined differently than you. The founding fathers were rather fond of John Locke's natural rights of life, liberty, and property.
We might actually see some [progress]
seemed to imply that no progress is taking place at the moment. I figured it was an exaggeration on purpose to make the point more effective.
PP was saying no progress is taking place.
I don't see any line of argument in this tree that says that progress isn't taking place.
you abolish IP laws you also have to let content producers protect their content as they see fit.
So.. you're saying they are going to have us sign non-disclosure agreements?
I don't see how this is off topic.. IMO if copyleft gets to be too intrusive on intellectual property holders, the IP holders will want to abolish copyrights. Without copyright, there is no copyleft, and they know they can use their brand-names to push their products. (trademarks are a different topic)
It essential involves a simple question of whether IP is still able to, as the US Constitution says, "promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts". It was my conclusion that the massive increase in communication technology recently has turned "Intellectual Property" [sic] into a hindrance of progress today rather than what A1S8C8 was intended for. Yes, it has been an effective establishment in the past, but look at the reality for a second. How fast is our technological achievements going to progress in the future regardless of IP? How much faster would it advance in the absence of IP? How much of a head start would nation/states have over the US who abolish IP?
I think it's well time to stop thinking of information as property, because it isn't. A government mandated monopoly over the copying of information is property.
Information has no intrinsic value. Information that hasn't been created or distributed does. People will still create information because they can get paid in advance to create progress.
Last time I checked windows didn't have a package management.
Actually, windows has MSI files now, which Installshield and WISE both use internally.
I'm not sure if this qualifies as good package management... e.g., lack of dependency resolution.
A one-size-fits-all solution is an absolute requirement if Linux is to gain any mainstream popularity.
There is an easy solution to this.
Stop thinking of Linux as an operating system, because it isn't.
This one-size-fits-all solution has already been embraced by individual Linux distributions. Why does Linux have to gain mainstream popularity when something like Debian with a Solaris kernel could do the trick?
I'm beginning to see less relevance at the kernel level. Where the distro packaging systems are being ported to many different kernels. I like the idea of choosing which kernel you want when installing the distro. Be it a BSD, Linux, Darwin, HURD, OpenSolaris, Haiku, or even Windows with Cygwin.
FYI, Japan had offered to surrender before we dropped the FIRST bomb. We had already defeated them. How do you know it would have been 10 million casualties? Can you magically predict the past's future?
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Anyway, your argument flew out the window the second you mentioned naked supermodels delivering free pizza..
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Whether it's Ruby on Rails, or Django, most developers will have to learn a new language. Python has a book available online: Dive into Python. I found it very easy to switch from C/C++/PHP to python. Django does have a slight learning curve though. Oh, and be aware, the Django documentation online is for their SVN version! Most likely NOT your distro's version. They are still under heavy development.
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There was a good video, although outdated (2005), that had two of the main developers of Django and RoR. The video is quite long (3hrs), so I'll link to the Google Video Search. The second and third are each person's presentation, and the fourth, which I recommend, is a Q/A session.
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This would also require a re-compile on the part of the application vendor. IMO, highly unlikely. -metric
Any idea if OpenBSD supports Sun's ZFS filesystem?
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They renamed it WXWidgets.. and yes, it really is "super-cool". Especially with Code::Blocks and the new wxSmith stuff.
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I'm not too interested in the main alternative either. The Citizen's Debate Commission (CDC) had a lot of support running up to the 2004 election, but when it came time to organize the debate, they excluded every party except for the Democrats and Republicans. Not to mention they were completely ignored by the only two parties that they were allowing. These two parties have a monopoly over the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) considering it was a bipartisan secret agreement that created it in the first place.
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I know this isn't a vote, but I second for calling it 'monochrome'
1. Obviously, it has the direct association with the mono project.
2. Silver is somewhat analogous to chrome.. (alright alright it really isn't)
3. Every artist knows what monochromatic is.. as in having to do with color and light.
Miguel, I think the choice should be obvious unless there are legal issues with calling it 'monochrome'.
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Avoiding any air-resistance, you don't need some gravity-from-the-moon argument to show that the hammer will hit first. It's quite clear from the equation that the hammer will hit before the feather. The extreme mass of the Earth relative to both hammer and feather makes the difference in acceleration practically irrelevant. Nevertheless, the hammer does hit first.
Stare at: F=G*((m1*m2)/r^2) for a while.
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..nothing in the constitution forbids direct wealth transfer as a right "Wealth Transfer"? That's a nice euphemism for stealing.All enforcement of individual rights requires sacrifice from the whole. Can we both agree that our differences lie in what constitutes individual rights? If so, then I'd argue that Libertarians do not ignore the 9th amendment. We simply believe that these rights are defined differently than you. The founding fathers were rather fond of John Locke's natural rights of life, liberty, and property.
Saying that we ignore the 9th is misinformation.
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Actually, Amazon says the book was first published in 1996. More than a decade ago...
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Mathew Alper's book The "GOD" Part of the Brain postulated this years ago. At least my copy is dated from the year 2000.
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but.. literally, I stand corrected.
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As long as it doesn't obstruct the actual presentation I believe product placements are the way to go for online content.
You mean like that part in Wayne's World?
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PP was saying no progress is taking place.
I don't see any line of argument in this tree that says that progress isn't taking place.
you abolish IP laws you also have to let content producers protect their content as they see fit.
So.. you're saying they are going to have us sign non-disclosure agreements?
I don't see how this is off topic.. IMO if copyleft gets to be too intrusive on intellectual property holders, the IP holders will want to abolish copyrights. Without copyright, there is no copyleft, and they know they can use their brand-names to push their products. (trademarks are a different topic)
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side note: I just wrote a paper about this.. ugh.
It essential involves a simple question of whether IP is still able to, as the US Constitution says, "promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts". It was my conclusion that the massive increase in communication technology recently has turned "Intellectual Property" [sic] into a hindrance of progress today rather than what A1S8C8 was intended for. Yes, it has been an effective establishment in the past, but look at the reality for a second. How fast is our technological achievements going to progress in the future regardless of IP? How much faster would it advance in the absence of IP? How much of a head start would nation/states have over the US who abolish IP?
I think it's well time to stop thinking of information as property, because it isn't. A government mandated monopoly over the copying of information is property.
Information has no intrinsic value. Information that hasn't been created or distributed does. People will still create information because they can get paid in advance to create progress.
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Last time I checked windows didn't have a package management.
Actually, windows has MSI files now, which Installshield and WISE both use internally.
I'm not sure if this qualifies as good package management... e.g., lack of dependency resolution.
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A one-size-fits-all solution is an absolute requirement if Linux is to gain any mainstream popularity.
There is an easy solution to this.
Stop thinking of Linux as an operating system, because it isn't.
This one-size-fits-all solution has already been embraced by individual Linux distributions. Why does Linux have to gain mainstream popularity when something like Debian with a Solaris kernel could do the trick?
I'm beginning to see less relevance at the kernel level. Where the distro packaging systems are being ported to many different kernels. I like the idea of choosing which kernel you want when installing the distro. Be it a BSD, Linux, Darwin, HURD, OpenSolaris, Haiku, or even Windows with Cygwin.
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The fact that the IP addresses are originating from China indicates that it's probably anyone but China.
Or.. maybe they are clever enough to think we are clever enough to figure that out, and then host the attack from China.
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please mod parent up, it's making it look like the JACK designer is commenting on the wrong person. What a stupid way of laying out arguments.