Not exactly. The 6% are about MS licenses. Also, open source for enterprise is not exactly free of charge, because it prefers enterprise distributions witch cost money same as MS.
The support is theirs for 100% whichever way they go.
As you mentioned, open source is not about free of charge, but about reliability and adaptability, which makes sense for bigger corps., as they often have costume solutions which are much better haded on open source software.
Also, while your typical windows admin gets sweaty with a few dozen boxes, you open source admin can manage much larger infrastructure.
You did forget, that we will all accessing this cloud with handhalds and terminal clients. All the world (even the developing one) will have 24/7 broadband coverage to access the cloud. Developers will love to write applications with 5" on-screen keyboards and minority report like interfaces. Everyone will throw away their old computers because the new paradigm is much cooler, and the will love to learn it. Did I forget something?
Hey, he has enriched the world with a wonderful Linux distribution and accelerated the deployment of a superior operating system by years, how is that no profit? Oh, you are talking about money, never mind..
Yes, but most people don't have multiple screens and input devices.
Most people also don't care about user interface improvements if they have to learn something new.
For instance, I customized my UI with compiz fusion. Did things like mapping the Alt+Tab combo to a mouse click in one corner of the screen and a few other things like this. Now this decreased my widow management time overlay factor by about x3 (I'm about 3 times faster than normal mortals).
Now even if this works fine for me, I know I could never convince other users to use this feature, because they would have to learn around 1 new paradigm. Does not work. It's the same as ever: the problem sits in front of the screen.
Well, the headline already got my interest, and surely a lot of yours too. But there are some catches:
1. It's a text editor. Though they probably will have a Linux version soon, it still can't compete with vim / emacs (yea, trying to avoid flame wars, one of them is my favorite).
2. The effort compensation is a bit fuzzy. Trust is a good thing, but putting a working model based on it into reality is a bit hard (see all the trolls on Slashdot, like me).
3. Right now, the site has a bunch of promises, and work in progress plans to implement the open promise. Maybe I'm too cynical with my young years, but I'll only believe it when I can sign up, grab the code, add some useful modifications and see a balance increase on my PayPal account the next month. Not there yet..
4. I'm not quite sure, that even if the idea is good, a Windows based application is the best solution to this kind of project.
Still, I which it will have some success, so people start to think about modes related to this one.
It's the same principle. Why are we still using POSIX and SUS when there is Plan9? Because the former is established and works just good enough. People know how to use it and they don't have to learn something new.. and there is a *huge* set of stuff built on the platform that is not available to the new one. So basically the new is a superior design but a fail in support.
It's the same with databases. RDBMS are not the best we can get in terms of design, but it is established and we have a bunch of tools and technicians who know how to deal with them. Newer concepts much lack the support.
An example is ZODB. It's neat. It incorporates ACID + Transparency + Undo + Pluggable Storages and you mostly get rid of the Billy Tables problem. Still you don't have the technicians who understand how to deal with it and you don't have the myriad of tools accompanying it.
So *after* the direct link to the video was posted on Slashdot, I was watching the video and the counter tells me that I'm no. 271 to watch this video. Amazing how incredibly serious people are about this kind of stuff. Now I picture the thousands of web developers starting to use the suggested security guidelines..
Agree. Most people are barely capable of understanding the functions of their remote and lose it at most dumb-phones. Now they really want to teach them the intricate workings of an abstract user interface for a smart-phone remote emulation? Don't think that will work..
So here we are at the multiprocessing dilemma again. The summary gets it all wrong. It is referring to operating systems, which are fine with this kind of stuff. UNIX and derivate (Linux) systems were fine with multiprocessing for decades. Most of the big irons in the top 500 are running multi-core just fine. Even Windows got the hang out of it lately (I guess).
The problem is, that most application developers did not learn to wrap their minds around the multiprocessing paradigm. No tool can magically design your single threaded application to work multi-threaded. The developer needs to analyze the program flow, export computationally expensive operations to separate threads and manage to get a good junction control (locks, balanced threading). It's a design paradigm that has to be learned.
Problem is, that you can't get developers that are not used to the idea of multiprocessing paradigms to switch. Another problem is, that exactly this group of people is also teaching the new generation, so it is not going to change that fast either.
It's a bit like a chicken and egg problem: until there is no large distribution of multi-core systems, no one will have the urge to switch. So that's why it is a good thing that this new CPU's get out. Once they are there, developers will derive the need to utilize them to stay competitive. Kind of like natural selection and adoption of new environments.
Isn't exactly rocket science (well, except if you are writing a rocket guidance system).
Oh come on people, John Markoff did never ever shine with much clue about computers, much on the contrary. Why are we reading sorries from this dude on computers?
As for the article on conficker: it's speculation. That's not news. It's a guessing game.
I personally which, that the conficker virus should do as much damage as possible and render the whole interwebs useless for a few days, so that our security geniuses get a hint on how sane it is to set up the majority of computer systems with the same OS, especially such a vulnerable one. But that probably won't happen.
I layman's terms: Linus and the other contributors, that published code can not revoke the license after it is out.
In lawyer's terms:
(anonymous lawyer): That sounds like a legal opinion by a non-lawyer who has heard that there is a requirement of "consideration" to form a contract. First of all, the grant of a license is not in itself a contract, anyway. I could grant you a license as a gift; that would not mean that I could revoke it at will anymore than I can require you to give back any other gift I've given you. Second, the requirement of consideration is something that is bound to be misunderstood by someone who has little knowledge of the law.
A person who publishes code (or a book or anything else) under the GPL has no right to revoke it. It becomes in the wild, as they say. This happened, for example, to Borland, which made its Interbase database available under the GPL and then changed its mind. Borland could prevent future versions of Interbase from being open sourced, but the version it made open source was in the wild and became the basis of what is now the Firebird open source database. (See http://www.firebirdsql.org/ ) (Firebird was not gpl'd, but same thing would have happend under gpl.)
Likewise, MySQL cannot revoke rights of anyone to use any version of MySQL that has been published under the GPL. If MySQL decided not to publish future versions under GPL license, anyone else would be free to form a project to continue open source development of a gpl'd version. This new project would not have same rights as MySQL, which is original creator of MySQL and has right to license under any license it wants. But anyone can fork MySQL and grant gpl licenses to others.
Your answers and reactions are as expected. Well, just wanted to see if there are some informed people here, but oh well.. letting my original post stay there with no references and answers to your reactions would be quite dumb, so here it goes.
TheGarggh
The reason the 1918 flu had high mortality among young adults is because sometimes when the body is presented with a new and particularly severe infection, there occurs a "cytokine storm", a positive feedback loop of the immune system which can pretty much destroy you. A healthy immune system becomes a liability.
That's speculative. Not even the official medical community states this as fact.
I'm going to simply respond to your rambling, seemingly paranoid post with a single [Citation Needed].
Paranoid conspiracy theories require some verifiable proof, especially when they directly contradict peer-reviewed and verified science so conspicuously.
I'm on it, as you see.
TroyM
I can't understand why the tin foil hat people think vaccines are a scam to make insane amounts of cash by the pharmaceuticals industry.
Because it is so? Here is an article on the profit motivation part and the documented actions of the pharmacy industry to increase profits (bribes) http://www.naturalnews.com/024114.html Note: this one has a surprisingly mainstream origin.
The reality is the last thing the industry wants is a cure for a disease. What they want is a drug that treats without curing, and has to be taken indefinitely. Something like Prozac, statin drugs, Viagra - that's where the money is.
Thats something I fully agree with.
Microlith
Explain Smallpox, Polio, Hepatitis B, HPV, Chicken Pox, Measles, Mumps, and Rubella. It is not futile. You do it, or you risk dying from easily communicable diseases.
You're an idiot parroting "Vaccines are poison!" crap, who told you this, Jenny McCarthy?
Predjudice? No, that requires knowing nothing about you and making a rash judgment. You've plainly proved you're ignorant and little better than a wishful-thinking conspiracy theorist and deserve every flame fired against your dangerous spreading of mis-information.
Ok, granted, you have no prejudice. You have religion.
TempeTerra
In brief: please provide links for your paranoid delusions, I'd enjoy the read.
The flu variant believed to be responsible for the 1918 pandemic killed by causing a cytokine storm (wiki it yourself) - the host immune system overreacts and kills the host. Of course this is most effective against otherwise healthy people with a strong immune system that can really kick some ass... against their own body.
Thats a long comment of you. I did wiki cytokine storm and even there they write statements with "it is believed". No conclusive evidence. But yea, it's wiki, so lets leave it at that.
You suggest that the pharmaceutical industry has duped the entire medical profession into believing in a disease that doesn't even exist, and will inject the entire population with a potentially lethal disease causing agent, causing massive global economic collapse simply because they can get paid for every unit they produce? No comment.
Probably yes.
kklein...
Get some manners, dude.
Now to elaborate some of the other points. Interestingly nobody asked what ingredients vaccines have, as I was hinting. There is quite a good description at
The 1918 epidemic - commonly known as the "Spanish flu" - was probably a lie. Before it broke out, there was a large scale vaccination and surprisingly most of the affected people who got it were vaccinated, which also explains why the victims were mostly young adults, usually unaffected by these types of infectious diseases.
No wonder this is not mentioned in most history books, because most of the people involved in the story were too embarrassed to have committed such a large scale genocide (about 50 million fatalities) and did not want it to get noticed.
The so called bird flu is not inherently a virus either. It's more of an intoxication consequence of modern industrial meat production. So was BSE.
Vaccinating against intoxication is pointless. Actually, vaccination in general is futile. The people originally developing vaccination admitted this themselves in their late days but nobody listened to them once it became a profitable business. Ever wondered why you had such a hellish week after one or the other vaccination? How about where your allergy came from? Ever read the ingredients of a vaccine? Thought so. Never mind.
You really think the pharmaceutic industry has less pork than the software industry, the military industrial complex or the oil industry?
Now I know most of you won't believe me and still take this and other vaccinations. So be it, as long as no one forces me to do this stuff. What bothers me a bit is, that when the coming phantom epidemic will break out (which some people predicted as far as mid last year to shift the blame of the economic collapse ahead of us) there will be a forced vaccination of the whole population done in 2 phases (1 being optional with the suggestion that there is a limited supply of vaccine to maximize profits, second will be the forced vaccination of the whole population).
Purely friend 2 friend based networks seem of quite limited use (come on, who knows anyone on the Internet really?).
There are implementations of Pseudonymous P2P clients like GNUnet which are much less trust reliant (more usable and robust). The only problem is, that they are somewhat alpha state and quite cumbersome to set up, and there are not too much files there. There are also a bunch of other approaches (here is a list of software: http://tinyurl.com/cvrvg7 )
Problem is, the *AA will probably run to the next congressman with bribes as soon as this kind of stuff gets mature and wide spread and will create a new law that makes proxying iProperty illegal, then start leeching..
What they are also doing (right now) is forcing everyone to keep traffic logs. They will probably want to extend it to make it querriable centrally (you know, to protect the children) and use it to track down people. Wait, the last one involves intelligence.. OK, forget about that.
Running Linux/w Firefox here. No default Java extension in sight here. If I want Java, then I have to use the system package manager and install one version of it purposefully (either the sun or the open source version).
With Windows it was always like giving up freedom for ease of use. Now it does stuff to ease use and you are all complaining. Can you please decide, if you want freedom or dictatorship? Both don't work together.
Not exactly. Political power is still with voters (yes, I know, not much, but a little). If they make an interesting public case (like they do), then many people start to ask "what's this about and do we really want this?" You know, there is a limit to fucking with your citizens, and it's lowering when they get aware somebody does so.
I think whoever came up with HTML and CSS was smoking crack. There are so many inconsistencies and bizarre rules that it's impossible for me to believe that a sane person came up with all this.
Crack, well, nearly missed it: it was a committee.
Well, at least they now know how not to do it properly. The probability that it will happen again is quite small, especially because no one will trust them anymore in the first place and it will be really hard to start anew. Their best bet is probably to start a new service under another name and another look.
If you ask the gamers: Yes, way too much! I better pirate it.
If you ask the studios: How much can we squeeze the most out of the costumer? Can we put into legislation, that games cost 100$ and every one has to buy one at least once a month? Can we also put an additional tax on everyone, because everyone is pirating anyway?
If you ask some folks how don't feel gaming is of mush value, and do it only as passion: They cost enough to keep me away from buying them. And cool, I have a lot of time I can use for something useful.
Because every game is a monopolistic product by it's definition, you really can't compare it like for instance cheese. It's also not utterly required for survival. At this point it is only a question on priority. Probably the software houses can increase this priority (demand) of third group costumers and increase the legal purchase of the first group by producing better quality games and/or lowering the price.
C:> tracert myshare.live.com
traceroute to myshare.live.com (12.34.56.78), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
your.provider.com (234.213.535.213) 43.436 ms 45.114 ms 46.053 ms
check.riaa.com (234.24.24.546) 43.436 ms 45.114 ms 46.053 ms
check.mpaa.com (34.57.25.123) 43.436 ms 45.114 ms 46.053 ms
check.us.gov (34.63.32.467) 43.436 ms 45.114 ms 46.053 ms
spam.group.net (43.64.32.57) 43.436 ms 45.114 ms 46.053 ms
myshare.live.com (234.213.535.213) 43.436 ms 45.114 ms 46.053 ms
Slashdot Mirror
Not exactly. The 6% are about MS licenses. Also, open source for enterprise is not exactly free of charge, because it prefers enterprise distributions witch cost money same as MS.
The support is theirs for 100% whichever way they go.
As you mentioned, open source is not about free of charge, but about reliability and adaptability, which makes sense for bigger corps., as they often have costume solutions which are much better haded on open source software.
Also, while your typical windows admin gets sweaty with a few dozen boxes, you open source admin can manage much larger infrastructure.
You did forget, that we will all accessing this cloud with handhalds and terminal clients. All the world (even the developing one) will have 24/7 broadband coverage to access the cloud. Developers will love to write applications with 5" on-screen keyboards and minority report like interfaces. Everyone will throw away their old computers because the new paradigm is much cooler, and the will love to learn it. Did I forget something?
Hey, he has enriched the world with a wonderful Linux distribution and accelerated the deployment of a superior operating system by years, how is that no profit? Oh, you are talking about money, never mind..
Does that mean that we now finally get viable mass darknet solutions?
Does this means that levitating cars are coming to the shops now? Where can I order mine?
Yes, but most people don't have multiple screens and input devices.
Most people also don't care about user interface improvements if they have to learn something new.
For instance, I customized my UI with compiz fusion. Did things like mapping the Alt+Tab combo to a mouse click in one corner of the screen and a few other things like this. Now this decreased my widow management time overlay factor by about x3 (I'm about 3 times faster than normal mortals).
Now even if this works fine for me, I know I could never convince other users to use this feature, because they would have to learn around 1 new paradigm. Does not work. It's the same as ever: the problem sits in front of the screen.
Well, the headline already got my interest, and surely a lot of yours too. But there are some catches:
1. It's a text editor. Though they probably will have a Linux version soon, it still can't compete with vim / emacs (yea, trying to avoid flame wars, one of them is my favorite).
2. The effort compensation is a bit fuzzy. Trust is a good thing, but putting a working model based on it into reality is a bit hard (see all the trolls on Slashdot, like me).
3. Right now, the site has a bunch of promises, and work in progress plans to implement the open promise. Maybe I'm too cynical with my young years, but I'll only believe it when I can sign up, grab the code, add some useful modifications and see a balance increase on my PayPal account the next month. Not there yet..
4. I'm not quite sure, that even if the idea is good, a Windows based application is the best solution to this kind of project.
Still, I which it will have some success, so people start to think about modes related to this one.
It's the same principle. Why are we still using POSIX and SUS when there is Plan9? Because the former is established and works just good enough. People know how to use it and they don't have to learn something new.. and there is a *huge* set of stuff built on the platform that is not available to the new one. So basically the new is a superior design but a fail in support.
It's the same with databases. RDBMS are not the best we can get in terms of design, but it is established and we have a bunch of tools and technicians who know how to deal with them. Newer concepts much lack the support.
An example is ZODB. It's neat. It incorporates ACID + Transparency + Undo + Pluggable Storages and you mostly get rid of the Billy Tables problem. Still you don't have the technicians who understand how to deal with it and you don't have the myriad of tools accompanying it.
So *after* the direct link to the video was posted on Slashdot, I was watching the video and the counter tells me that I'm no. 271 to watch this video. Amazing how incredibly serious people are about this kind of stuff. Now I picture the thousands of web developers starting to use the suggested security guidelines..
Agree. Most people are barely capable of understanding the functions of their remote and lose it at most dumb-phones. Now they really want to teach them the intricate workings of an abstract user interface for a smart-phone remote emulation? Don't think that will work..
So here we are at the multiprocessing dilemma again. The summary gets it all wrong. It is referring to operating systems, which are fine with this kind of stuff. UNIX and derivate (Linux) systems were fine with multiprocessing for decades. Most of the big irons in the top 500 are running multi-core just fine. Even Windows got the hang out of it lately (I guess).
The problem is, that most application developers did not learn to wrap their minds around the multiprocessing paradigm. No tool can magically design your single threaded application to work multi-threaded. The developer needs to analyze the program flow, export computationally expensive operations to separate threads and manage to get a good junction control (locks, balanced threading). It's a design paradigm that has to be learned.
Problem is, that you can't get developers that are not used to the idea of multiprocessing paradigms to switch. Another problem is, that exactly this group of people is also teaching the new generation, so it is not going to change that fast either.
It's a bit like a chicken and egg problem: until there is no large distribution of multi-core systems, no one will have the urge to switch. So that's why it is a good thing that this new CPU's get out. Once they are there, developers will derive the need to utilize them to stay competitive. Kind of like natural selection and adoption of new environments.
Isn't exactly rocket science (well, except if you are writing a rocket guidance system).
Oh come on people, John Markoff did never ever shine with much clue about computers, much on the contrary. Why are we reading sorries from this dude on computers?
As for the article on conficker: it's speculation. That's not news. It's a guessing game.
I personally which, that the conficker virus should do as much damage as possible and render the whole interwebs useless for a few days, so that our security geniuses get a hint on how sane it is to set up the majority of computer systems with the same OS, especially such a vulnerable one. But that probably won't happen.
In lawyer's terms:
That's speculative. Not even the official medical community states this as fact.
There is an article on this at http://www.whale.to/vaccine/sf1.html with some more detail.
I'm on it, as you see.
Because it is so? Here is an article on the profit motivation part and the documented actions of the pharmacy industry to increase profits (bribes) http://www.naturalnews.com/024114.html Note: this one has a surprisingly mainstream origin.
Thats something I fully agree with.
Ok, granted, you have no prejudice. You have religion.
Thats a long comment of you. I did wiki cytokine storm and even there they write statements with "it is believed". No conclusive evidence. But yea, it's wiki, so lets leave it at that.
Probably yes.
Get some manners, dude.
Now to elaborate some of the other points. Interestingly nobody asked what ingredients vaccines have, as I was hinting. There is quite a good description at
The 1918 epidemic - commonly known as the "Spanish flu" - was probably a lie. Before it broke out, there was a large scale vaccination and surprisingly most of the affected people who got it were vaccinated, which also explains why the victims were mostly young adults, usually unaffected by these types of infectious diseases.
No wonder this is not mentioned in most history books, because most of the people involved in the story were too embarrassed to have committed such a large scale genocide (about 50 million fatalities) and did not want it to get noticed.
The so called bird flu is not inherently a virus either. It's more of an intoxication consequence of modern industrial meat production. So was BSE.
Vaccinating against intoxication is pointless. Actually, vaccination in general is futile. The people originally developing vaccination admitted this themselves in their late days but nobody listened to them once it became a profitable business. Ever wondered why you had such a hellish week after one or the other vaccination? How about where your allergy came from? Ever read the ingredients of a vaccine? Thought so. Never mind.
You really think the pharmaceutic industry has less pork than the software industry, the military industrial complex or the oil industry?
Now I know most of you won't believe me and still take this and other vaccinations. So be it, as long as no one forces me to do this stuff. What bothers me a bit is, that when the coming phantom epidemic will break out (which some people predicted as far as mid last year to shift the blame of the economic collapse ahead of us) there will be a forced vaccination of the whole population done in 2 phases (1 being optional with the suggestion that there is a limited supply of vaccine to maximize profits, second will be the forced vaccination of the whole population).
Now go on with your prejudice and mod me flame..
Purely friend 2 friend based networks seem of quite limited use (come on, who knows anyone on the Internet really?).
There are implementations of Pseudonymous P2P clients like GNUnet which are much less trust reliant (more usable and robust). The only problem is, that they are somewhat alpha state and quite cumbersome to set up, and there are not too much files there. There are also a bunch of other approaches (here is a list of software: http://tinyurl.com/cvrvg7 )
Problem is, the *AA will probably run to the next congressman with bribes as soon as this kind of stuff gets mature and wide spread and will create a new law that makes proxying iProperty illegal, then start leeching..
What they are also doing (right now) is forcing everyone to keep traffic logs. They will probably want to extend it to make it querriable centrally (you know, to protect the children) and use it to track down people. Wait, the last one involves intelligence.. OK, forget about that.
Running Linux /w Firefox here. No default Java extension in sight here. If I want Java, then I have to use the system package manager and install one version of it purposefully (either the sun or the open source version).
With Windows it was always like giving up freedom for ease of use. Now it does stuff to ease use and you are all complaining. Can you please decide, if you want freedom or dictatorship? Both don't work together.
Not exactly. Political power is still with voters (yes, I know, not much, but a little). If they make an interesting public case (like they do), then many people start to ask "what's this about and do we really want this?" You know, there is a limit to fucking with your citizens, and it's lowering when they get aware somebody does so.
Crack, well, nearly missed it: it was a committee.
Just in case someone really wants to read TFA, here is a link to the more eye friendly version (printer version): http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=printArticleBasic&taxonomyName=Network+Security&articleId=9128280&taxonomyId=142
Ps. Just because there is a "Slashdot this article with maximum clutter" button, you don't have to inherently click on it.
Well, at least they now know how not to do it properly. The probability that it will happen again is quite small, especially because no one will trust them anymore in the first place and it will be really hard to start anew. Their best bet is probably to start a new service under another name and another look.
It's really a question on who you ask.
If you ask the gamers: Yes, way too much! I better pirate it.
If you ask the studios: How much can we squeeze the most out of the costumer? Can we put into legislation, that games cost 100$ and every one has to buy one at least once a month? Can we also put an additional tax on everyone, because everyone is pirating anyway?
If you ask some folks how don't feel gaming is of mush value, and do it only as passion: They cost enough to keep me away from buying them. And cool, I have a lot of time I can use for something useful.
Because every game is a monopolistic product by it's definition, you really can't compare it like for instance cheese. It's also not utterly required for survival. At this point it is only a question on priority. Probably the software houses can increase this priority (demand) of third group costumers and increase the legal purchase of the first group by producing better quality games and/or lowering the price.
C:> tracert myshare.live.com
traceroute to myshare.live.com (12.34.56.78), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
your.provider.com (234.213.535.213) 43.436 ms 45.114 ms 46.053 ms
check.riaa.com (234.24.24.546) 43.436 ms 45.114 ms 46.053 ms
check.mpaa.com (34.57.25.123) 43.436 ms 45.114 ms 46.053 ms
check.us.gov (34.63.32.467) 43.436 ms 45.114 ms 46.053 ms
spam.group.net (43.64.32.57) 43.436 ms 45.114 ms 46.053 ms
myshare.live.com (234.213.535.213) 43.436 ms 45.114 ms 46.053 ms
*connection successfully established*
Come on, this does not highlight vulnerabilities of SSL, but errors in implementing it for specific platforms. This was always a weak point.
Sure, they will not replace local editing tools for the main development of applications, but for remote access and small stuff it sounds nice.