hate it to break it to you but your heros an idiot.
Everybody knows default deny is a better idea
"Enumerating Badness" - sounds like DRM
"Penetrate and Patch" - while you spend months trying to figure out how to rework your system to provide the service its meant to & not be exploited, your customers are getting infected. sure go back and fix the problem latter, but 1st you need to protect people.
"Hacking is Cool" - Hacking is always going to be cool, just like going on the grass is.
"Educating Users" - This still dosent address the dancing pigs problem, if you dont educate users, your just making it harder for them to get their work done.
"Action is Better Than Inaction" - A good point on security, but ofc epic fail in real life, if you dont adopt new techniques and benefits of IT, you may not have much of a system to protect in 5 years
Marcus sounds like an idiot, hes very good at stating the obvious flaws in IT but really cant offer any solutions
That is assuming that the user is completely stupid, OTOH if you click dancingpigs.exe and get prompted to give your root password or even just accept/deny, most users will click cancel (if they dont you haven't explained sudo well enough). So then it comes down to which OS has the least privilege escalation attacks.
The trick is to start with something easy to avoid. Thanks to torrentz i can avoid buying all RIAA much, i do rarely go out to by music from indie lables tho.
What id quite like is somebody to produce a scanner that lists all non-RIAA music in my collection so i can go and buy the albums the RIAA doesn't "protect".
The problem is when you start trying to apply ethics to buying your snacks & drinks. Think Ms has a monopoly, look at coke. Snacks while not bieng as owned by 1 company are instead owned by 2/3 companies, but atleast they make it obvious so its easier to avoid say nestle than coke (coke, fanta, oasis, powerade, etc)
Instead of one thing that's got a high probability of failure I've replaced it with one that's got a lower probability of failure, and locked down the high failure rate one into a VM that I can snapshot, revert, and even when it does break I've still got 90% of my stuff outside the broken VM image. If you have a working windows box dedicated to doing a couple of tasks, its got a very low probability of failure. With a sensible backup system, even if it fails you can recover the data, then restore the system to the previous backup anyway. A sensible backup system covers you against hardware failure too.
And if you insist on adding two points of failure to server windows programs, it makes more sense to add them for free. That way you have the snapshots and are coverd against everything but hardware failure (although you even then you can take the HDD out and stick it in a different PC)
(speed, screen size, form-factor, etc.) Ok so a corperate system isnt going to be using bluetooth or the webcam, and if they need it these are cheep addons so ill ignore them in the comparisons.
2.1GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (13") 1,099 mac book 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Due (15.4") $799 insprion 1525 (has extra 50GB) Saving $300 (30%) Sure the form factor isn't there you got a bigger screen size, same speed, in the cooperate environment those come in above having it white & sparkle.
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (15") 1.999 mac book pro 2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (14.1) 1.024 insprion 1420 This comparsion isnt as fair as ive got a worse PC, because i was only looking at the dell-linux site, but is the.2ghz and extra inch of screen, worth $970.
As for Mac OS X, well if people have been illegally running vista (pre -SP1) on macs, then were safe to ignore the apple clause in the EULA and just run whatever apple software you want.
0 additional hardware costs only work if you assume the hardware will never die, which isn't even remotely accurate. No the key word was additional, you still need to replace your systems but you can replace them with cheaper systems.
0 installation costs only work if your time is worthless as far as the company is concerned - hence why machines have OSes pre-installed these days Yeah but who gets paid for that time, while setting up the 1t Linux box may take a little time to configure rolling it out will take the same amount of vista. I doubt that even apples are given straight to users, they have to be configured to work in your set-up 1st, which may be faster under linux, as you can burn your setup to an install disk, then install the systems preconfigured.
Also, don't forget that WiFi "just works" if you have just the right chipset (i.e. avoid Broadcom and Realtek unless you want to play with Ndiswrapper or have your OS do it for you). Really? I used broadcom for the last year without any problems, it was litterly clicking the "do you want broadcom to work" box and it worked fine. Perhaps my experience isnt indicative of all users, but while non-recommended hardware like ati (this offerd more problems in fairness) & broadcom, might not be perfect it does work.
But for the cost of a mac, you could get a higher spec Dell which is guaranteed to be compatible with you SuSe And when you phone up Novell with a bug, your phoning people that will fix the bug and send you a patch, not some generic mac help desk.
whens the last time you used linux? Ive been using it for the last 2/3 years and WiFi just works. No you offer the boss the financial benifits ( e.g 0 installation cost, 0 additional hardware costs, dedicated support that will fix the software for you under the support fees)
If you want you can any flavor of Window, or Linux all running in a VM under Any OS. Fixed that for you, if your going to be using free UNIX programs why pay loads for hardware?
Could the year of desktop linux be the year of OSX + 1, there have been three problems with getting linux adopted format lock in (e,g everybody runs word), with people switching to OS X are people starting to use OO,or are they using word4mac anyway ? vendor lock in, but this seams broken now with dell offering linux User unawarnes, (monkey see windows, monkey do windows), but now as theres diversity, perhaps users will start realising windows may not be the best OS for them.
Is the dream of a 30/30/30 market, just a dream or could the end of MS (Dominance) be near?
actually if youd read the link (i know its hard because your too busy looking at the grovey safari fonts man), its incompatible with GPL2 & GPL3 and may only be usable if you use a BSD shim of unreleased source code. But the truth is apple wont stop free software, its just a bad choice of development kit rules.
Why would you want to run windows in parrallels? current situation, you have a dedicated working windows box for some reason cost = 0 your solution get a mac $$$ get parallels $$$ move programs across to the VM
so instead of 1 thing that can fail youve just spent a shitload of money to add 2 points of failure to your system. Smoooth!
The Mac looks good from a support overhead standpoint, which is not insignificant with the number of users we have. what sort of support are you talking, If the system is locked down, its just as easy to support linux. I suppose you have a point if you let everybody set-up their own stuff tho
While i agree ubuntu dont do much for kubuntu, kubuntu isnt that bad. Apart from trying kde4 when it was experimental ive never come across a broken package Installing mp3 support was simply sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-something, which google answered didnt even have to ask. Restricted-manager-kde also solved all my wifi/ati problems without a problem. I then went on to google and install the latest ATI drivers without any problems
The comunity are usually quite helpful, ofc there's always somebody thats trying to help/stupid and gives bad advice, but aslong as you 1) Dont arrive complaining about ubuntu, instead ask how to fix the problem 2) Dont claim 300 years of windows/mac/gentoo experience 3) Google for really obvious stuff they will normally help a fair amount.
Sure some people get easily annoyed and will just refuse to give you actual help but generally the response your talking about is unseen.
On the otherhand ive been thinking of switching to gentoo for a while, but on my old PC the install took so long that i could have installed ubuntu 2/3 times, each distro has pros and cons, just because Kubuntu wasnt for you dosnt mean it sucks.
On the otherhand complaining that both gentoo and ubuntu dont contribute as much as Redhat/novell is a valid point
either that or your linux is ready? Sure he did alot, but the biggest 2 projects causing linux adoptions have to be firefox & compiz
mark, may have made a great distro that got alot of limelight, but the fast is that he just happens to have jumped on board at a very good time, ubuntu has done very little that isnt just tying loose ends together, very little high quality coding.
Ubuntu may be many things but it has not "demonstrated exceptional creativity, and collaboration in the development of open source software."
That has to go to novel or redhat for their efforts, now if only they would stop developing groupware and get me laid!*
*before some idiot mods me down, that's a JWZ reference not flamebait(that's flamebait)
I wonder if it will every be cost effective to put FPGAs in consumer systems, i can see them really helping in bottlenecks (why waste cpu on doing the same processing over and over, ship it of to a specialised FPGA) and in low power situations (why wake up the cpu when you can program the FPGA to do 50% of the wake-ups), unfortnatly i can only see this helping mac & linux, as the windows kernel being closed makes implementing this stuff down to MS not the chip makers.
I think the goal of this project isnt high performance, but high redundancy, there are only so many backups you can put on a probe, with this if they do it right you could end up with a system where any core could break and be fix/replaced at fraction of the cost shipping 2 chips for every component. Unfortunately often the sensors go before the core technology so i dont know how effective that will be, plus due to a lack of funding often projects are abandoned long before all the systems are broken
"So I said, narrow the focus. Your "use case" should be, there's a 22 year old college student living in the dorms. How will this software get him laid?" http://www.jwz.org/doc/groupware.html
Basically its a rant about why groupware sucks and why if OSS wants to kick outlooks arse we should do what he says, If somebody had listend maybe we wouldnt be stuck with facebook:(
The theory goes something like if users like the software they're going to show it to people, they're going to use it your user base keeps expanding and you get more developers so your program keeps improving. But if you develop for managers, your software has to meet some random checklist decided by a bunch of people that dont even use the software, and then everybody hates. OSS had a shot at kicking some arse, by making software to gets you laid, but they missed and so people still define outlook as the gold standard of email clients, and nobody got laid:( As a side note if you plan on developing OSS software 1) get me laid 2) http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html
Remember kids, cool screensavers like xscreensaver, get you laid,( i mean a chick walks into your dorm and sees a cow on a trampoline/one of those duck things, things are only going to turn out one way), groupware doesn't.
While on the whole your right, the 1st game i remember playing was a maths challenge on the acorn, took you through a maths based version of jack and the beanstalk. never finished the damn thing tho.
In the Ubuntu repos i spotted a few but none seamed promising, id suggest finding a computer with over 512 ram and using a liveCD to test out the games, if you find anything, as its OSS chances are it will be available for windows too.
However here are very few programs for kids under GPL, they dont really conform to the "software thats going to get you laid principle" or "software somebody has paid for".
but if the raytracking GPU doesnt have the speed to keep up with a raster GPU, they cant really be combined into a game, when your moving you get worse graphics:S.
has anybody stoped to think that they might be trying to go after a different market. Laptop gaming just isnt a very big market (if you geeky enough to play games, your probably not far off building your own desktops for about 1/3 of the price of a laptop). The main use of graphics cards on laptops is for graphics design and the sort. Sure there are people that want to play games on their laptop, but few people will spend $3000 to get a laptop capable of playing the latest games, when a desktop will cost them $1000 and they can keep playing the latest games for about $200/300 a year! On the other hand a design company will happily keep throwing money at laptops which they can use to show customers simulations in high detail.
I can easily image that if Intel designed a really good card for image design, and it was in the consumer price range, a certain fruit based company would love to use it, now selling parts to them, thats where the money is.
Oh, and I should note that lightning improved greatly from Spring 2007 to the summer. Before then, it was really not helpful. Thats good to no i switched away from TB because lightning wasnt as good as kontacts calander, but im big fan of TB, if lightning is finally good enough i may switch back.
As a kubuntu user i have to say the only option is to walk away:( Ive been using Kmail and i can fairly say i wouldnt want to put it in a production enviroment just yet. home enviroment sure, geek enviroment go for it, but it has a few too many bugs for putting into your corperate network
i recon since they started offering ubuntu laptops, all of thier geeks have switched and now they sit around the office all day thinking of good ways to piss off balmer, (like any good slashdotter/linux user). Dell are definatly too big for M$ to try and fsck with.
In terms of buisness they cant afford to pin themselves to ubuntu, without support for outlook, too many business users would phone up dell support saying i ran install-outlook.exe and nothing happened, and too many home users would say i ran install-outlook-cracked.exe and complain. Even if they could they shouldn't for years OSS advocates have been asking for OEM neutrality, not OEM exclusivity, forcing ubuntu on users is a terrible idea, offering no default OS is terrible for noobs as is offering every OS. Hopefully dell will keep pushing ms and as ms cant retaliate, all their systems will be offered with vista(default),blank (+ optional XP cd) and those will all linux hardware will have novell(buiness) or ubuntu too. But even as a ubuntu users i would hate to see OEMs start offering only ubuntu (although in fairness as its free, im free to remove it and stick whatever i want on it)
Alternatively they're running low on office chairs and are hoping for a balmer-by some time soon to restock.
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hate it to break it to you but your heros an idiot. Everybody knows default deny is a better idea "Enumerating Badness" - sounds like DRM "Penetrate and Patch" - while you spend months trying to figure out how to rework your system to provide the service its meant to & not be exploited, your customers are getting infected. sure go back and fix the problem latter, but 1st you need to protect people. "Hacking is Cool" - Hacking is always going to be cool, just like going on the grass is. "Educating Users" - This still dosent address the dancing pigs problem, if you dont educate users, your just making it harder for them to get their work done. "Action is Better Than Inaction" - A good point on security, but ofc epic fail in real life, if you dont adopt new techniques and benefits of IT, you may not have much of a system to protect in 5 years Marcus sounds like an idiot, hes very good at stating the obvious flaws in IT but really cant offer any solutions
That is assuming that the user is completely stupid, OTOH if you click dancingpigs.exe and get prompted to give your root password or even just accept/deny, most users will click cancel (if they dont you haven't explained sudo well enough). So then it comes down to which OS has the least privilege escalation attacks.
The trick is to start with something easy to avoid. Thanks to torrentz i can avoid buying all RIAA much, i do rarely go out to by music from indie lables tho.
What id quite like is somebody to produce a scanner that lists all non-RIAA music in my collection so i can go and buy the albums the RIAA doesn't "protect".
The problem is when you start trying to apply ethics to buying your snacks & drinks. Think Ms has a monopoly, look at coke. Snacks while not bieng as owned by 1 company are instead owned by 2/3 companies, but atleast they make it obvious so its easier to avoid say nestle than coke (coke, fanta, oasis, powerade, etc)
And if you insist on adding two points of failure to server windows programs, it makes more sense to add them for free. That way you have the snapshots and are coverd against everything but hardware failure (although you even then you can take the HDD out and stick it in a different PC)
2.1GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (13") 1,099 mac book
2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Due (15.4") $799 insprion 1525 (has extra 50GB)
Saving $300 (30%)
Sure the form factor isn't there you got a bigger screen size, same speed, in the cooperate environment those come in above having it white & sparkle.
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (15") 1.999 mac book pro
2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (14.1) 1.024 insprion 1420
This comparsion isnt as fair as ive got a worse PC, because i was only looking at the dell-linux site, but is the
As for Mac OS X, well if people have been illegally running vista (pre -SP1) on macs, then were safe to ignore the apple clause in the EULA and just run whatever apple software you want.
I doubt that even apples are given straight to users, they have to be configured to work in your set-up 1st, which may be faster under linux, as you can burn your setup to an install disk, then install the systems preconfigured. Also, don't forget that WiFi "just works" if you have just the right chipset (i.e. avoid Broadcom and Realtek unless you want to play with Ndiswrapper or have your OS do it for you). Really? I used broadcom for the last year without any problems, it was litterly clicking the "do you want broadcom to work" box and it worked fine. Perhaps my experience isnt indicative of all users, but while non-recommended hardware like ati (this offerd more problems in fairness) & broadcom, might not be perfect it does work.
Combine with http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=535736&cid=23212080
and just throw a normal party, drink, drugs, put for decorations use xkcd comics.
But for the cost of a mac, you could get a higher spec Dell which is guaranteed to be compatible with you SuSe And when you phone up Novell with a bug, your phoning people that will fix the bug and send you a patch, not some generic mac help desk.
whens the last time you used linux? Ive been using it for the last 2/3 years and WiFi just works. No you offer the boss the financial benifits ( e.g 0 installation cost, 0 additional hardware costs, dedicated support that will fix the software for you under the support fees)
Could the year of desktop linux be the year of OSX + 1, there have been three problems with getting linux adopted
format lock in (e,g everybody runs word), with people switching to OS X are people starting to use OO,or are they using word4mac anyway ?
vendor lock in, but this seams broken now with dell offering linux
User unawarnes, (monkey see windows, monkey do windows), but now as theres diversity, perhaps users will start realising windows may not be the best OS for them.
Is the dream of a 30/30/30 market, just a dream or could the end of MS (Dominance) be near?
actually if youd read the link (i know its hard because your too busy looking at the grovey safari fonts man), its incompatible with GPL2 & GPL3 and may only be usable if you use a BSD shim of unreleased source code. But the truth is apple wont stop free software, its just a bad choice of development kit rules.
Why would you want to run windows in parrallels?
current situation, you have a dedicated working windows box for some reason cost = 0
your solution get a mac $$$
get parallels $$$
move programs across to the VM
so instead of 1 thing that can fail youve just spent a shitload of money to add 2 points of failure to your system. Smoooth!
While i agree ubuntu dont do much for kubuntu, kubuntu isnt that bad.
Apart from trying kde4 when it was experimental ive never come across a broken package
Installing mp3 support was simply sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-something, which google answered didnt even have to ask.
Restricted-manager-kde also solved all my wifi/ati problems without a problem. I then went on to google and install the latest ATI drivers without any problems
The comunity are usually quite helpful, ofc there's always somebody thats trying to help/stupid and gives bad advice, but aslong as you
1) Dont arrive complaining about ubuntu, instead ask how to fix the problem
2) Dont claim 300 years of windows/mac/gentoo experience
3) Google for really obvious stuff
they will normally help a fair amount.
Sure some people get easily annoyed and will just refuse to give you actual help but generally the response your talking about is unseen.
On the otherhand ive been thinking of switching to gentoo for a while, but on my old PC the install took so long that i could have installed ubuntu 2/3 times, each distro has pros and cons, just because Kubuntu wasnt for you dosnt mean it sucks.
On the otherhand complaining that both gentoo and ubuntu dont contribute as much as Redhat/novell is a valid point
either that or your linux is ready? Sure he did alot, but the biggest 2 projects causing linux adoptions have to be
firefox & compiz
mark, may have made a great distro that got alot of limelight, but the fast is that he just happens to have jumped on board at a very good time, ubuntu has done very little that isnt just tying loose ends together, very little high quality coding.
Ubuntu may be many things but it has not "demonstrated exceptional creativity, and collaboration in the development of open source software."
That has to go to novel or redhat for their efforts, now if only they would stop developing groupware and get me laid!*
*before some idiot mods me down, that's a JWZ reference not flamebait(that's flamebait)
I wonder if it will every be cost effective to put FPGAs in consumer systems, i can see them really helping in bottlenecks (why waste cpu on doing the same processing over and over, ship it of to a specialised FPGA) and in low power situations (why wake up the cpu when you can program the FPGA to do 50% of the wake-ups), unfortnatly i can only see this helping mac & linux, as the windows kernel being closed makes implementing this stuff down to MS not the chip makers.
I think the goal of this project isnt high performance, but high redundancy, there are only so many backups you can put on a probe, with this if they do it right you could end up with a system where any core could break and be fix/replaced at fraction of the cost shipping 2 chips for every component. Unfortunately often the sensors go before the core technology so i dont know how effective that will be, plus due to a lack of funding often projects are abandoned long before all the systems are broken
"So I said, narrow the focus. Your "use case" should be, there's a 22 year old college student living in the dorms. How will this software get him laid?"
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http://www.jwz.org/doc/groupware.html
Basically its a rant about why groupware sucks and why if OSS wants to kick outlooks arse we should do what he says, If somebody had listend maybe we wouldnt be stuck with facebook
The theory goes something like if users like the software they're going to show it to people, they're going to use it your user base keeps expanding and you get more developers so your program keeps improving. But if you develop for managers, your software has to meet some random checklist decided by a bunch of people that dont even use the software, and then everybody hates.
OSS had a shot at kicking some arse, by making software to gets you laid, but they missed and so people still define outlook as the gold standard of email clients, and nobody got laid
As a side note if you plan on developing OSS software
1) get me laid
2) http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html
For information why the vista email scandal is extra ironic see: http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/rbarip.html
Remember kids, cool screensavers like xscreensaver, get you laid,( i mean a chick walks into your dorm and sees a cow on a trampoline/one of those duck things, things are only going to turn out one way), groupware doesn't.
While on the whole your right, the 1st game i remember playing was a maths challenge on the acorn, took you through a maths based version of jack and the beanstalk. never finished the damn thing tho.
In the Ubuntu repos i spotted a few but none seamed promising, id suggest finding a computer with over 512 ram and using a liveCD to test out the games, if you find anything, as its OSS chances are it will be available for windows too.
However here are very few programs for kids under GPL, they dont really conform to the "software thats going to get you laid principle" or "software somebody has paid for".
but if the raytracking GPU doesnt have the speed to keep up with a raster GPU, they cant really be combined into a game, when your moving you get worse graphics :S.
has anybody stoped to think that they might be trying to go after a different market. Laptop gaming just isnt a very big market (if you geeky enough to play games, your probably not far off building your own desktops for about 1/3 of the price of a laptop). The main use of graphics cards on laptops is for graphics design and the sort. Sure there are people that want to play games on their laptop, but few people will spend $3000 to get a laptop capable of playing the latest games, when a desktop will cost them $1000 and they can keep playing the latest games for about $200/300 a year! On the other hand a design company will happily keep throwing money at laptops which they can use to show customers simulations in high detail.
I can easily image that if Intel designed a really good card for image design, and it was in the consumer price range, a certain fruit based company would love to use it, now selling parts to them, thats where the money is.
As a kubuntu user i have to say the only option is to walk away :(
Ive been using Kmail and i can fairly say i wouldnt want to put it in a production enviroment just yet. home enviroment sure, geek enviroment go for it, but it has a few too many bugs for putting into your corperate network
i recon since they started offering ubuntu laptops, all of thier geeks have switched and now they sit around the office all day thinking of good ways to piss off balmer, (like any good slashdotter/linux user). Dell are definatly too big for M$ to try and fsck with.
In terms of buisness they cant afford to pin themselves to ubuntu, without support for outlook, too many business users would phone up dell support saying i ran install-outlook.exe and nothing happened, and too many home users would say i ran install-outlook-cracked.exe and complain. Even if they could they shouldn't for years OSS advocates have been asking for OEM neutrality, not OEM exclusivity, forcing ubuntu on users is a terrible idea, offering no default OS is terrible for noobs as is offering every OS. Hopefully dell will keep pushing ms and as ms cant retaliate, all their systems will be offered with vista(default),blank (+ optional XP cd) and those will all linux hardware will have novell(buiness) or ubuntu too. But even as a ubuntu users i would hate to see OEMs start offering only ubuntu (although in fairness as its free, im free to remove it and stick whatever i want on it)
Alternatively they're running low on office chairs and are hoping for a balmer-by some time soon to restock.
just make sure you dont mistranslates its 414 for those geeky enough to know the numbers