They're still universally called U-2s in the military, including at DGS-2 where the last U-2s with wet film still fly. Yes, they have other sensors on them these days, but wet film still has better resolution than digital and that's not going away anytime soon either.
The only person who said anything about candidates is you. GP said party, as in GOP, so I assumed he meant all Republicans which would be millions of people. I'm not thrilled with anyone currently running, Obama included. I voted for Nader in 2008 and have no idea whom I'd support this time.
So, I want to get this straight. They have been selling fewer dumb phones and losing money as a whole, but are going to continue making these phones for the next three years despite abandoning Symbian. Are you paying attention to what you're saying? They're clearly transitioning away from dumb phones, and you're making the argument that they have this market sewn up for the next three years! Are you just trolling me with this nonsense?
Nokia has been hemorrhaging money because of its transition policy to from symbian to meego to WP7 in high end phones
Why do think they are trying to transition to something? Are you saying they are trying to transition from their massively profitable and successful market to something else, for what, no reason whatsoever? Because they failed to seek your insightful advice? They saw the writing on the wall that dumb phones are on the way out and are trying to stay relevant. Yes the dumb phones are selling and are bringing in money right now. In three years? Not so much.
True, to a degree. I also know lots of people who once had a motorcycle, but sold it and never got another one after they had an accident. In fact, very few people I know who have a motorcycle currently have had an injury on a bike. Sort of like gambling. Every hardcore gambler will tell you about beginner's luck; because if you're lucky when you first start gambling, you're probably going to continue. If you have a losing streak when you first start gambling, you're probably not going to continue gambling.
Or texting, eating, adjusting the stereo, putting on make-up, or all the other stuff we do instead of watching the road. I ride a motorcycle, and people ask me if I think it's dangerous. I reply that at least I'm alert, watching the road, and have both hands on the handlebars with nary a phone or other distraction in sight. Autonomous vehicles don't have to be perfect to win me over, just better than the average driver, which is a terribly low bar to cross.
Strategy, as in fewer people are interested in a basic phone with no apps. They're losing money on Symbian. Yes, they still have lots of them around and they're still selling lots of phones. But this discussion is about the next three years, and the market share of basic phones is only going to decline. So yeah, they ditched Symbian because of "strategy and design choices", that being a nice way of saying their previous strategy of selling lots of basic phones isn't working.
So, it's about 4-6 times more expensive then low end nokia
The other number you pulled out of your ass was $20-30, which would be 2-3 times. For many people in developing countries, shelling out another $30 to have a pocket computer with access to the Android App store instead of just a phone is clearly worth it.
and is a chinese build which will break in a year,
Where do they make the good phones, if not China? Newsflash, pretty much all phones, including iPhones and high end Androids are made in China. Maybe China only made cheap crap in 2005, but times have changed.
Finally, yes, it's unlikely to get cheaper.
All technology, especially cell phones, have been getting exponentially cheaper for the same capability.
And nokia is known to have one of the best logistics chains in history of Western world, and is quite probably one of its most valuable assets.
So, again, explain why they are failing? Why did they abandon Symbian? Your argument is that Nokia will have the largest market of phones for the next three years, yet Nokia doesn't agree and is trying to ditch it. WHY?
Seriously, get off the fanboy horse and look at the market in places like Africa.
Why don't you? Again, I googled it for. First result for Android phone africa:
Plenty more atricles like that too. How could you miss this massive worldwide market shift? Nokia is trying desperately to find a winning strategy as their market share of low end phones is being taken up my Android, and you think they should stay the course for the next three years? You're either blind or willfully ignorant.
60 fscking dollars for an unlocked Android phone. This has been happening for a while now, your vision impairment aside. Cheap generic low-end Chinese Android phones have been coming down in price and permeating developing countries' markets and eating Nokia's lunch. Just because Samsung can't profit from competing with Nokia, doesn't mean no one can. Tell me again that in another three years there is "no chance" these will be cheaper. And if Nokia has the largest market all sewn up, why are they failing and desperately trying to change their business model?
So there's no chance that, in three years, inexpensive Android phones will permeate these markets? Are you blind? I've found low-end unlocked generic Android phones on eBay for less than $200. Moore's Law will cut than half twice in the next three years to $50. Is that affordable yet?
Overall, I found it hysterical and very creative. 2 of my favorite parts: After the initial iconic text scrolls off the screen, there appear several Facebook-like comments, one of which is by Alderon_Dude, "Thank god I live on a peaceful planet!" The other is when Obi Won first shows Luke his father's lightsaber, done in a noir setting, apparently done just so he can say, "in a more civilized age" like Humphrey Bogart. There's a few Kill Bill references sprinkled here and there, a scene done like The Big Lebowski, etc. I loved it.
So the scanner should mindlessly follow the rules instead of using common sense? How many Senators or relatives of Presidential candidates have ever tried to hijack a plane?
They've already proved that they can't be trusted.
Right, because we all know Senators have a tendency to hijack planes. Seriously, they should have looked at his ID, checked his bags, and let him through.
Comparing variation between and across races has no bearing on whether one race is, on average, smarter than another. Try reading The Bell Curve. It's unfortunate, disheartening, politically incorrect, etc but true that some races are smarter than others, on average.
Bingo. I also realize that was a joke, but I've argued with people who think that intelligence is not heritable, but support evolution. I point out that man's ancestors were less intelligent, so clearly in order for man to become more intelligent over time, intelligence must be heritable to some degree.
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Hey, I'm an insensitive clod, you insensitive clod!
You still haven't found what you're looking for.
They're still universally called U-2s in the military, including at DGS-2 where the last U-2s with wet film still fly. Yes, they have other sensors on them these days, but wet film still has better resolution than digital and that's not going away anytime soon either.
The only person who said anything about candidates is you. GP said party, as in GOP, so I assumed he meant all Republicans which would be millions of people. I'm not thrilled with anyone currently running, Obama included. I voted for Nader in 2008 and have no idea whom I'd support this time.
your a bigoted raciest like the rest of your GOP brethren
Good thing you don't overgeneralize either. I might be tempted to call you a hypocrite.
So, I want to get this straight. They have been selling fewer dumb phones and losing money as a whole, but are going to continue making these phones for the next three years despite abandoning Symbian. Are you paying attention to what you're saying? They're clearly transitioning away from dumb phones, and you're making the argument that they have this market sewn up for the next three years! Are you just trolling me with this nonsense?
You mean the oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic? Seems he's one of the few who took it seriously.
Was that you watching me last night?
Do you actually follow the company
Yes, though I'm not so sure you do.
Nokia has been hemorrhaging money because of its transition policy to from symbian to meego to WP7 in high end phones
Why do think they are trying to transition to something? Are you saying they are trying to transition from their massively profitable and successful market to something else, for what, no reason whatsoever? Because they failed to seek your insightful advice? They saw the writing on the wall that dumb phones are on the way out and are trying to stay relevant. Yes the dumb phones are selling and are bringing in money right now. In three years? Not so much.
Send a robot probe!
True, to a degree. I also know lots of people who once had a motorcycle, but sold it and never got another one after they had an accident. In fact, very few people I know who have a motorcycle currently have had an injury on a bike. Sort of like gambling. Every hardcore gambler will tell you about beginner's luck; because if you're lucky when you first start gambling, you're probably going to continue. If you have a losing streak when you first start gambling, you're probably not going to continue gambling.
Or texting, eating, adjusting the stereo, putting on make-up, or all the other stuff we do instead of watching the road. I ride a motorcycle, and people ask me if I think it's dangerous. I reply that at least I'm alert, watching the road, and have both hands on the handlebars with nary a phone or other distraction in sight. Autonomous vehicles don't have to be perfect to win me over, just better than the average driver, which is a terribly low bar to cross.
Listen buddy, the egg came first. That's where the chicken came from, OK?
What a strange sig, considering you not only replied to but agreed with an AC.
Strategy, as in fewer people are interested in a basic phone with no apps. They're losing money on Symbian. Yes, they still have lots of them around and they're still selling lots of phones. But this discussion is about the next three years, and the market share of basic phones is only going to decline. So yeah, they ditched Symbian because of "strategy and design choices", that being a nice way of saying their previous strategy of selling lots of basic phones isn't working.
So, it's about 4-6 times more expensive then low end nokia
The other number you pulled out of your ass was $20-30, which would be 2-3 times. For many people in developing countries, shelling out another $30 to have a pocket computer with access to the Android App store instead of just a phone is clearly worth it.
and is a chinese build which will break in a year,
Where do they make the good phones, if not China? Newsflash, pretty much all phones, including iPhones and high end Androids are made in China. Maybe China only made cheap crap in 2005, but times have changed.
Finally, yes, it's unlikely to get cheaper.
All technology, especially cell phones, have been getting exponentially cheaper for the same capability.
And nokia is known to have one of the best logistics chains in history of Western world, and is quite probably one of its most valuable assets.
So, again, explain why they are failing? Why did they abandon Symbian? Your argument is that Nokia will have the largest market of phones for the next three years, yet Nokia doesn't agree and is trying to ditch it. WHY?
Seriously, get off the fanboy horse and look at the market in places like Africa.
Why don't you? Again, I googled it for. First result for Android phone africa:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/41568/android-phone-huawei-ideos-africa
Plenty more atricles like that too. How could you miss this massive worldwide market shift? Nokia is trying desperately to find a winning strategy as their market share of low end phones is being taken up my Android, and you think they should stay the course for the next three years? You're either blind or willfully ignorant.
Here ya go, I googled it for you:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Quad-band-one-Sim-A-GPS-Android-2-1-Cell-Phone-3G-Mobile-Qwerty-Unlocked-New-Wh-/260936117519?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item3cc1012d0f
60 fscking dollars for an unlocked Android phone. This has been happening for a while now, your vision impairment aside. Cheap generic low-end Chinese Android phones have been coming down in price and permeating developing countries' markets and eating Nokia's lunch. Just because Samsung can't profit from competing with Nokia, doesn't mean no one can. Tell me again that in another three years there is "no chance" these will be cheaper. And if Nokia has the largest market all sewn up, why are they failing and desperately trying to change their business model?
So there's no chance that, in three years, inexpensive Android phones will permeate these markets? Are you blind? I've found low-end unlocked generic Android phones on eBay for less than $200. Moore's Law will cut than half twice in the next three years to $50. Is that affordable yet?
Yes he does.
Overall, I found it hysterical and very creative. 2 of my favorite parts: After the initial iconic text scrolls off the screen, there appear several Facebook-like comments, one of which is by Alderon_Dude, "Thank god I live on a peaceful planet!" The other is when Obi Won first shows Luke his father's lightsaber, done in a noir setting, apparently done just so he can say, "in a more civilized age" like Humphrey Bogart. There's a few Kill Bill references sprinkled here and there, a scene done like The Big Lebowski, etc. I loved it.
So the scanner should mindlessly follow the rules instead of using common sense? How many Senators or relatives of Presidential candidates have ever tried to hijack a plane?
They've already proved that they can't be trusted.
Right, because we all know Senators have a tendency to hijack planes. Seriously, they should have looked at his ID, checked his bags, and let him through.
Exactly. We should all just roll over and do nothing.
Comparing variation between and across races has no bearing on whether one race is, on average, smarter than another. Try reading The Bell Curve. It's unfortunate, disheartening, politically incorrect, etc but true that some races are smarter than others, on average.
Bingo. I also realize that was a joke, but I've argued with people who think that intelligence is not heritable, but support evolution. I point out that man's ancestors were less intelligent, so clearly in order for man to become more intelligent over time, intelligence must be heritable to some degree.