Sun is pretty cool because they patch their patches; you'll notice that every patch has a revision number.
When I was doing tech support a few years back, we had a few Solaris customers call in. They were getting segfaults on execution of our product. Nobody else. Just three or four people. We checked hardware, we checked the patches we required, we checked other running software, we checked everything. Until, one day, while I'm staring at the Sun webpage for one of the patches our product required for Solaris, one of the customers, with whom I'm reviewing everything we've done up till now, says something like 'And the patch 238509 rev 5 was installed...' and the page I'm staring at says '238509 rev 6' with a release date of a week beforehand. Grabbed an archival copy of rev 5, and sure enough, it was available for something like a week, and caused the segfault.
Say something like "Although I recognize that the American Dream has always been that somebody can take an idea and roll it into a million dollar business, I also believe that ONE SPECIFIC million dollar business is EVIL(tm) and therefore, suggest that we run this city using free software written in the free time of college students, and by philosophers who tend to wear brown robes."
That should get the underlying ideas across. And after all, your opponent will only be talking about, you know, taxes, crime prevention, improving public works, The Safety Of The Children(tm) and other such inconsequentials. Sticking It To Microsoft!(tm) is MUCH more important to them all.
We're not trying to extend and perpetuate our hegemony through elitist imperialism and antagonism.
Quite a few zealots of ANY OS movement, be it BeOS, Linux, OS/2, whatever, are quite elitist, imperialistic, and antagonistic.
Hell, RMS..."You should be free to choose any license, as long as it's MINE! I WILL FORCE YOU TO BE FREE! BWAHAHAHAHA!"
"Perhaps, if you were to IDENTIFY some Communists for us, we would therefore know that YOU YOURSELF are not a Communist..."
"Of course, Senator McCarthy...."
I love how you need to register for the software; how much do you want to bet that it puts you on the 'Po$$ible Licen$e I$$ues, call immediately!' list?
Or you could read this older ask slashdot comment that points out that they'll try to reformat Sun boxes to install their windows based piracy finders.
Or, say, providing a 'product activation' service that checks the hardware it's being installed on, then checks the hardware that it's next installed on?
So, basically, what most of you are saying is that if Microsoft wanted to put out a version of UNIX and call it, oh, 'Winux' or, say, Microsoft Linux XP Server, that would be OK?
Christ, it's a standard part of discovery. You hand over EVERYTHING to the opposing lawyers, and they look for goodies.
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Wrong. You should have a more durable vehicle. Why should the rest of us be forced to accept responsibility for your poor choice of transportation?
Pretty much any consumer level car these days is built with safety crumple zones. That's like saying 'Guns should be legal; wear kevlar if it worries you.' Of course, chances are you're American, and would agree with that sentiment wholeheartedly.:-)
You made that comment at least half in jest...but that penalizes the people who somehow managed to learn how to walk and chew gum at the same time. (As for me, I keep talking-while-driving to a minimum.)
It's not a question of penalizing; it's a question of not making innocents pay for one's mistakes. Your sentance could just as easily say 'it's like outlawing alcohol in the car; that penalizes the people who somehow managed to learn how to drink and drive safely.' It's utter bullshit. You're driving; drive.
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So, you get sick of your car someday and ram me in my SUV (hypothetically speaking, I really drive a VW) just so that you can take advantage of my automatic liability to get yourself a new car?
No, obviously not. That's not an accident; that's attempt to murder with a weapon.
As for the cell phone problem, it's thorny. I will point out, though, that we humans managed, more or less, to survive for several hundreds of thousands of years without.
It's my car, and I will put in it what I want.
Your right to put what you want in your car ends where my right to drive on the same road as you in safety begins.
That's why you make it stated policy to delete ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING with 'youcannotseemeehahahahaha'. Then, it's not incriminating, it's standard practice.
This is why companies have 'document retention' policies; if you don't, but you've destroyed documents that a court wants, you're in trouble. If you DO, and you've destroyed documents the court wants, too bad, you're following the published policies of your company.
The corallary to that is, I believe, that you need to follow your policy religiously, or it's not a viable defense.
Yup. This is why you do things like melt the bugger down to slag, subject it to an acid bath, blah blah blah.
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but certainly not automatic liability.
If you're specifically driving a vehicle that's designed to resist damage, and I'm driving one that's designed to write itself off, on impact, for safety reasons, then yes, you should have automatic liability.
Oh, and all vehicles should come with cell phone jammers that are on when the car is running.:-)
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I agree. Are you going off road? Yes? Then you need an SUV. Trying to transport three kids? Get a minivan.
I honestly believe that SUVs should require a separate license, and hefty registration fees. And automatic liability in any accident situation.
You forgot the best two reasons: uncut episodes, and THE OTHER SERIES YOU WANT ON DVD LATER.
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Well, it was OK, but then ST:Voyager came along and raised/hack/ the bar/gasp/..
Nah, that was 7 of 9, and Torres running around in her Starfleet Issue tank top...
A lot of companies who sell phone equipment to do stuff like this have, on staff, 'talent' to come over to your business and record all the prompts and what not. Hired, obviously, for voice.
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Sun is pretty cool because they patch their patches; you'll notice that every patch has a revision number. When I was doing tech support a few years back, we had a few Solaris customers call in. They were getting segfaults on execution of our product. Nobody else. Just three or four people. We checked hardware, we checked the patches we required, we checked other running software, we checked everything. Until, one day, while I'm staring at the Sun webpage for one of the patches our product required for Solaris, one of the customers, with whom I'm reviewing everything we've done up till now, says something like 'And the patch 238509 rev 5 was installed...' and the page I'm staring at says '238509 rev 6' with a release date of a week beforehand. Grabbed an archival copy of rev 5, and sure enough, it was available for something like a week, and caused the segfault.
Say something like "Although I recognize that the American Dream has always been that somebody can take an idea and roll it into a million dollar business, I also believe that ONE SPECIFIC million dollar business is EVIL(tm) and therefore, suggest that we run this city using free software written in the free time of college students, and by philosophers who tend to wear brown robes." That should get the underlying ideas across. And after all, your opponent will only be talking about, you know, taxes, crime prevention, improving public works, The Safety Of The Children(tm) and other such inconsequentials. Sticking It To Microsoft!(tm) is MUCH more important to them all.
"Perhaps, if you were to IDENTIFY some Communists for us, we would therefore know that YOU YOURSELF are not a Communist..."
"Of course, Senator McCarthy...."
I love how you need to register for the software; how much do you want to bet that it puts you on the 'Po$$ible Licen$e I$$ues, call immediately!' list?
The BSA will often claim an 'anonymous tip' and that'll get the court order. You can assume they know which judges to go to, as well.
Or you could read this older ask slashdot comment that points out that they'll try to reformat Sun boxes to install their windows based piracy finders.
Or, say, providing a 'product activation' service that checks the hardware it's being installed on, then checks the hardware that it's next installed on?
So, basically, what most of you are saying is that if Microsoft wanted to put out a version of UNIX and call it, oh, 'Winux' or, say, Microsoft Linux XP Server, that would be OK?
Christ, it's a standard part of discovery. You hand over EVERYTHING to the opposing lawyers, and they look for goodies.
Thanks. I'll look at those. :-)
That's why you make it stated policy to delete ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING with 'youcannotseemeehahahahaha'. Then, it's not incriminating, it's standard practice. This is why companies have 'document retention' policies; if you don't, but you've destroyed documents that a court wants, you're in trouble. If you DO, and you've destroyed documents the court wants, too bad, you're following the published policies of your company. The corallary to that is, I believe, that you need to follow your policy religiously, or it's not a viable defense.
Can you suggest any good Foucalt books? Preferably starting with a 'primer' or 'introduction' sorta thingy?
Yup. This is why you do things like melt the bugger down to slag, subject it to an acid bath, blah blah blah.
I agree. Are you going off road? Yes? Then you need an SUV. Trying to transport three kids? Get a minivan. I honestly believe that SUVs should require a separate license, and hefty registration fees. And automatic liability in any accident situation.
You forgot the best two reasons: uncut episodes, and THE OTHER SERIES YOU WANT ON DVD LATER.
Well, it was OK, but then ST:Voyager came along and raised /hack/ the bar /gasp/..
Nah, that was 7 of 9, and Torres running around in her Starfleet Issue tank top...
A lot of companies who sell phone equipment to do stuff like this have, on staff, 'talent' to come over to your business and record all the prompts and what not. Hired, obviously, for voice.
Me too, but I'm living it large with 64 megs. And all because of Audible.com.
Try Terminal Services, which is a) built in, b) free to use for 'remote administration' mode, c) blazingly fast, and d) quite happy on a modem.
You should have had the service packs, if not the fixes, slipstreamed into a custom install disc.