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Star Trek TNG DVDs

pgudge writes "startrek.com had a post about the paramount release of Star Trek The Next Generation on DVD. Claimed a around $100 for the season pack, including 7 DVD's. And that other season are to be released every other month thereafter. all done in Dolby Digital 5.1. Release date expected 26th march" Good way to watch them without suffering through TNN's ridiculous image squashing technology (Proudly proving that in the future everyone is either a pro wrestler, or shaped like a pear!)

416 comments

  1. About time! by Sethb · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I've been waiting for this, better dump the few ST:TNG Laserdiscs I have on eBay right away.

    Oh, and I submitted this several days ago:

    * 2002-01-11 11:58:47 ST:TNG DVD Sets Officially Announced (articles,tv) (rejected)

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    1. Re:About time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's possible that the story submitter beat you to it and that Taco was just sitting on the story waiting until they ran out of microsoft news on sunday afternoon. Or maybe it's just random.

    2. Re:About time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's happened to me a couple of times too. Story rejected, only to be followed by the same story a day or two later, with the same links. The ones that got posted did have more misspelled words though, so maybe I didn't meet the high Slashdot standard of mediocrity.

  2. what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by jd142 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now if only Babylon 5 could get the same treatment. Buffy is on the way. And Simpsons 1st season is out.

    Anyone have any more info?

    1. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by MaxVlast · · Score: 1

      I wish! My crappily-recorded Sci-Fi VHS tapes really suck. I'd love DVDs.

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    2. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by gibodean · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, we've already got Buffy DVDs seasons 1 to 3, and Angel season 1 in Australia.

      Just get yourself a region free player, and order from here (or New Zealand). I think the UK has them too.

    3. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by thegrommit · · Score: 2

      Yes, at least those three "franchises" have maintained their cachet. Post-TNG Trek has devolved into mediocrity to the point where I don't get upset about missing an entire season.

    4. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      "Welcome to the first of many delux overpriced DVD sets of The Simpson. With 280-odd shows in the can and no end in sight, you might be able to complete your Simpsons DVD collection just before the next format Comes along. Thanks for buying!"

      That is quoted directly from the packaging of the Complete First Season DVD.

    5. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by Y+B+MCSE · · Score: 1


      When B5 comes out, I will buy a DVD player. No reason to get one yet though.

    6. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Flaimbait ? WTF ? Why is this flame bait, Offtopic "maybe".. It is a valid question.. I mean, on Amazon, The B5 DVD is currently #57 of their top 100.

    7. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by rodgerd · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've been waiting in eager anticipation of the Babylon 5 DVD sets, but Warners have started releasing everything in Region 4 as cheap, shittily made NTSC DVDs, for chrissake.

      Shitheads.

    8. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by lunadude · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The first B5 disk was released back in November! The two-sided disk contained:

      The Gathering (Pilot)
      In the Beginning (1993)

      No great extras, they are testing out the waters. If this disk sells well (read: buy one), they will release the entire series.

    9. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by cancrman · · Score: 2

      Warner has been really shitty about releasing their TV properties on DVD. Which is surprising because they were the leaders in putting shit out on DVD in the beginning.

      Take their releases of Friends for instance (Shut up, I know it sucks. Yes I own them). Instead of releasing full seasons they have put out 2 lame 'best of' collections.

      Perhaps they think that they can make more money off of the syndication rights rather than the DVD releases. They need to take a lesson from Fox. They know how to do DVD right. X-Files, Buffy, & The Simpsons have all been top notch releases.

      Pete

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    10. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by Segfault+11 · · Score: 1

      WRT The Simpsons, one can only wish that they would run on the "one season per month" schedule. Image quality left something to be desired in some cases, too.

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    11. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by hughk · · Score: 0, Redundant
      Yeah and someone will rip them and put them up on a file share service.

      I Have seen an ep of Enterprise in YUV2 MP43 format and it squishes down to about 128MB per episode and doesn't look too bad (even against one recorded with another standard at 450MB). However this is compression from TV. B5 was recorded in widescreen and could take more but that makes it frighteningly easy to distribute bootleg copies given an HQ source.

      I would guess that Warner Bros realises this and is beiung careful. This is a shame because B5 was good enough that I already own a bundle of eps in VHS format.

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    12. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by WatertonMan · · Score: 1

      Babylon 5 I can understand. Twin Peaks I can understand. (Great DVD by the way) However I don't understand people buying DVDs of shows still in syndication that are on EVERY NIGHT. i.e. MASH, Simpsons, etc. Aren't you sick of those? I mean Twin Peaks was enjoyable because it hadn't been on in 10 years and other than a brief run on Bravo (which I don't have) hasn't been shown. What's the point of Star Trek DVDs when it seems like you can't turn on the TV at night without one of the 5 different Trek shows on somewhere.

    13. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by SmittyTheBold · · Score: 1

      yeah, the "edge enhancement" in the Simpsons DVDs made the image too sharp and destroyes the subtle color gradations in some places. the black lines were too black, etc.

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    14. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by Dante_H · · Score: 2, Informative

      In the UK, WB have released Friends as entire seasons on both VHS and DVD. Not sure why WB America would drag their feet.

      Up until fairly recently the studios didn't seem to appreciate that custs would want entire seasons, rather than "best ofs". Again, in the UK, we had themed best of's (which were generally lame) of the Simpsons, which was eventually followed by the Box-Sets. One migth cynically say that they did this to squeeze yet more money out of us...

    15. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by iainl · · Score: 1

      I'll try not to make the standard slashdot assumption about you being American (I'm from the UK myself), but if you can play R1 discs then you should know that a (fairly cheap) disc of The Gathering and In The Beginning was released before Christmas. Warner are apparently using the popularity of that disc to decide if its worth doing the whole series; they got burned in the US with abysmal sales of the VHS and Laserdisc episodes, as they continue to deny saying anything about a DVD release and so didn't believe that we are all waiting for them.

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    16. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by dannyspanner · · Score: 2

      I'll only buy it if they release it in anamorphic widescreen. There used to be a petition site somewhere to this effect, but it's disappeared as far as I can tell. Fat chance of WB taking any notice, 7000 "signatures" or no. Their production on film DVDs is lackluster to say the least.

    17. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by Erasmus+Darwin · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      "Just get yourself a region free player, and order from here (or New Zealand)."

      I had a friend who did that. It was only after receiving the DVDs that he found out Australia uses PAL instead of NTSC.

    18. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by LordNimon · · Score: 1
      Well, duh! Anyone who buys a region-free player that doesn't do PAL->NTSC gets what he deserves.

      I think your friend would have hated P.T. Barnum.

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    19. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by Happy+Monkey · · Score: 2

      I just got the shipment notice this morning for Buffy season 1.

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    20. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by Che+Guevarra · · Score: 1


      Special Features
      Audio Commentary
      Deleted Scenes
      Dolby 5.1
      Pause/rewind
      CC
      Foreign Language audio

      There are reasons...

    21. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by Ab0rtRetryFail · · Score: 1

      Perhaps I'm restating the obvious (I only have full text of posts rated over 3, and I'm too lazy to search through all those other posts), but J. Michael Straczynski (forgive me if I butchered his name) was interviewed by IGN recently, and he said something to the effect of "The sales of the current DVD (a 'flipper' 2-pack with 'In The Beginning' and 'The Gathering') will determine whether or not a release of the series is financially feasible." Judging from the fact that its Warner, we'll get a top 10 of the series that's Panned-and-Scanned from the Widescreen presentation. I have been on a 'snapper' fast for quite some time now (snappers == the crappy snap cases sold with most Warner DVDs), but this news has me considering a temporary break from the fast so I can buy the DVD.

    22. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by Zeinfeld · · Score: 2
      I'll only buy it if they release it in anamorphic widescreen.

      What are you on? All the Star Trek series were shot in academy ratio (4:3) for the TV. If you want to watch them in the wrong ratio almost any wide screen TV will oblige by either stretching the picture horizontally so Picard fatter than Kirk did or by chopping off the top half of everyone's head.

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    23. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because then I can watch whatever episode I want, when I want.

      Are you really that dense?

    24. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by Y+B+MCSE · · Score: 1


      you should know that a (fairly cheap) disc of The Gathering and In The Beginning was released before Christmas

      I did not know this. Thank you.

    25. Re:what about B5, Buffy, Simpsons by dannyspanner · · Score: 2
      I'll only buy it if they release it in anamorphic widescreen.
      What are you on? All the Star Trek series were shot in academy ratio (4:3) for the TV.

      Apologies; I was referring to B5 and should have quoted the comment I was replying to. Of course I don't want to see Picard stretched to 16:9! I have a hard enough time explaining widescreen to the family. B5 was filmed in widescreen although it looks like much of the CGI wasn't, which causes problems.

  3. I forget.... by DAldredge · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do we hate the MPAA this week or not???

    1. Re:I forget.... by Rayonic · · Score: 5, Funny

      FYI, we hate it Monday, Wednesday, and Friday
      We like it Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday
      and we alternate Sundays.

      Get with the program.

    2. Re:I forget.... by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Slashdot conversation:

      Slashdotter #1: MPAA is evil. Look at that DVD copy protection.
      Slashdotter #2: Yeah... Let's boycott them... Hey, look! A Star Trek DVD!
      Slashdotter #1: Cool! Let's go buy it!

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  4. great! by Syre · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Great!

    This means I'll be able to download the shows real soon now on Morpheus, Gnutella or EDonky2000!

    1. Re:great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sir,

      while stealing might save you money, it is a bad idea (regardless of your morals or lack thereof).

      First off, it does cost money to remaster the video and release it to DVD, and damages the episodes' syndication value, so their is a cost to Paramount, etc.

      Also, the money goes to a lot of people, including the actors and writers. Buying the DVD set helps support Wil Wheaton. Perhaps you've noticed he hasn't been first-posting, trolling, and discussing his love of li'l boys around here lately. That's because he's too busy working. If you buy the DVD set, he'll get residuals, and can quit working and start trolling /. At least until he spends all the money on a cocaine binge again.

    2. Re:great! by ywwg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      unless of course you want the picture quality, 5.1 sound, and extra features, not to mention no downloads that take all night, crap out, and have some Hax0rs watermark all over them

      and for 100$, it's a bargain

    3. Re:great! by WNight · · Score: 2

      A 600MB divx DVD rip of a 1-hour (or less, usually) show is going to be incredible quality. Anything where the source is widescreen is going to be ripped that way. The 5.1 it might not do (You can rip the audio streams directly, but I dunno if standard players will recognize and play them...)

      As for downloads taking all night... that matters? Why? Just queue a few up and let them go.

      And watermarks? I've never seen watermarks on a divx movie except for screeners. (You know, some guy with a handy-cam in the theatre.) Nobody bothers to watermark DVD rips, anyone with the DVD can do them, there's no glory.

  5. DVD Only Special Feature: by Nathdot · · Score: 5, Funny

    DVD Only Special Feature:

    *Skip Holodeck Episodes.

    :)

    1. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by Rayonic · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about:

      *Skip First Season?

      ;)

    2. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by wo1verin3 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hrm..if we couple that feature, with the ability to skip over Episodes centered around transporter accidents, we could fit the entire series on to an 8-track.

    3. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great joy and gratitude!

    4. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by servasius_jr · · Score: 5, Funny

      DVD Only Special Feature:

      *Skip Holodeck Episodes.


      Yeah, it's really easy to pick out those end-of-season low-on-cash episodes: "Data's cat suffers from distemper and Worf learns a lesson about sharing when he takes square-dancing lessons on the holodeck. Picard gets a haircut. Wesley shaves for the first time."

    5. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by Spackler · · Score: 2

      I can't believe I'm going to say this, but the very first holodeck episode (I'm not talking about Farpoint where Riker finds Data in the holodeck), the one with the Binars and Minuet, was not bad. It used it as a prop to deceive, and not technology gone crazy (and NOT Captain Proton! What was Berman thinking?).

      Spackler

    6. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by Howie · · Score: 1

      yeah, and picard got a haircut. Stay on target. Geez.

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    7. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can fit the entire premise on the head of a pin.

      Why screw up a perfectly good 8 track tape?

      .

    8. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by doooras · · Score: 0

      binars/minuet episode title: 11001001

    9. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by KILNA · · Score: 1

      And when they release Voyager:

      *Skip Every Episode

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    10. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by sulli · · Score: 0, Troll
      How about:

      Skip the Whole Damn Show?

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    11. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're talking about "The Next Generation" here, not "Voyager".

    12. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 2
      How about:

      * Skip Entire Silly Series

      ST just Ain't That Great, folks. Poor writing, poor economics, poor physics, poor philosophy: a poor show.

      Now, Blackadder and Red Dwarf: those are shows!

    13. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *Skip Wesley Crusher

    14. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Oh, man, Troi is always annoying but in the pilot she made my butthole draw up.

    15. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, he got a haircut on a TNN episode Friday.

      Didn't take long, though.

    16. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by Grayswan · · Score: 1

      *Skip First Season?

      Whats the matter? Don't you like talking black tarpits and sex planets? I'm just thinking: If only they could have combined those two into one episode...ahhhhh...be still my heart.

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    17. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by brogdon · · Score: 3, Funny

      What, and miss Counselor Troi in the short skirt and knee-high boots they stuck her in through the first season? I guess they thought they needed some thigh to keep the borderline geeks coming back, so they added a splash of "Sex Kittens go to Mars" to the series. :)

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    18. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about:

      *Show only Troi- or B. Crusher-centric episodes.

    19. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just described sci-fi.

      Its all the same, but somehow certain people have to pretend that they're watching it because it is deeper than most tv.

      If you watch it for simple entertainment, then just admit it, don't try and be psudo-intellectual.

    20. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by dunstan · · Score: 2

      And sets Riker up for the later episode where the reappearance of Minuet is the telltale sign that his mind has been ripped and an artificial world created around him.

      Dunstan

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    21. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by crsgrg · · Score: 2, Funny

      How about skip all episodes where:

      Picard appears to be made of wood, or

      Riker has that shit eating "I get *lots* more than the Captain" grin on his face, or

      Dr. Crusher appears to be the most masculine crew member, or

      Weasely appears to be the most feminine crew member, or

      Troi fails to show any cleavage.

    22. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by CaseyB · · Score: 5, Funny
      Yeah, it's really easy to pick out those end-of-season low-on-cash episodes

      Three words: "Shades of Grey".

      I can't recall the exact details, but one of the writers/producers' own comments on the show was "It's shit. Utter shit.".

    23. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Troi fails to show any cleavage.

      I second this one. TNG without Troi cleavage is like Slashdot without goatse.cx.

    24. Re:DVD Only Special Feature: by TrickyRick · · Score: 1

      I think they borrowed the idea from the TOS episode "The Deadly Years", where everyone that beamed down started aging except Chekov. When they are each given a shot of adrenalin the return to normal

  6. TNN is bad? by spacefem · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I kinda like watching TNG on TNN, it's weird, I know, but it adds to the atmosphere. So much of Star Trek is like a big party, a community, I don't always feel right watching it myself in the comfort of my own home, I like the feeling that millions of losers are watching it with me. Anybody else catch techTV's little stints at the Star Trek Experience lately? Excellent, nothing like an interview with a real Klingon to remind you that the culture is out there, not on your DVD shelf.

    1. Re:TNN is bad? by nomadic · · Score: 2

      That is a gross misuse of the word "culture".

    2. Re:TNN is bad? by kilrogg · · Score: 2

      Can you explain this "image squashing technology" for us non-Americans? Do they change the aspect ratio? Why would they need to do that? thanks.

    3. Re:TNN is bad? by servasius_jr · · Score: 1

      Can you explain this "image squashing technology" for us non-Americans? Do they change the aspect ratio? Why would they need to do that? thanks.

      Yup, they change the aspect ratio. They squeeze in some blank space at the bottom of the screen so they can run text ads for wrestling and Baywatch.

    4. Re:TNN is bad? by Monkelectric · · Score: 1
      TNN compresess the image by about 5 - 10% to make room for an annoying bar that says something to the effect of, "TNN, home of star trek" ... sometimes it has announcements, and often it tells what shows are coming up next.

      It dosen't make the shows unwatchable, but it is just enough that you notice that *something* is wrong. It has the effect of making Troy's ass just *that* much fater

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    5. Re:TNN is bad? by kilrogg · · Score: 1

      That would probably annoy me too, especially if text was scrolling, like stock tickers on CNN and other news channels. I hope this doesn't catch on.

    6. Re:TNN is bad? by OSSMKitty · · Score: 1

      Yup, it seems to be catching on. A couple of other networks are doing this same annoying thing. Oxygen, TV for women, does it to run not only ads, but "vital" information about the love lives of the stars of the show...

    7. Re:TNN is bad? by elmegil · · Score: 1
      It has the effect of making Troy's ass just *that* much fater[sic]

      I like Big Butts and I do not lie....

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    8. Re:TNN is bad? by Phexro · · Score: 4, Funny

      "That is a gross misuse of the word "culture"."

      nonsense.

      From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]:

      Culture \Cul"ture\, n.
      1. (Biol.)
      (a) The cultivation of bacteria or other organisms in
      artificial media or under artificial conditions.

      for example, not showering for eight full days because you're too busy watching star trek.

    9. Re:TNN is bad? by gid · · Score: 1

      They change the aspect ratio so much I can't stand it. I'm a casual STTNG watcher, and am tempted every time it's on TNN, but I force myself to keep going. I can't stand that bar. I'd much rather turn off the tv and feed /. trolls than force myself to watch squash-o-vision.

    10. Re:TNN is bad? by Fishstick · · Score: 1

      The random viewer dial-in introductions (_over_ the show!) were just too much.

      I had set my TiVo up to season pass TNG when I saw TNN (_not_ "The Nashville Network", now "The _National_ Network"... we're not just for hicks anymore, no no no) was going to air it. I was horrified when I sat down to watch. Ok, the little bar at the bottom and the resulting squashed picture are pretty bad, but not the end of the world.

      What I really disliked was "Jim Joe Bob" calling in to tell you "You're watchin' Star Trek, 'next gen'ration on the new TNN!" which TNN played over the show.

      No, they didn't play them over a logo prior to the actual show coming back from commercial, these were played as the actual show started, OVER DIALOGUE!!

      What the hell is that?!

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    11. Re:TNN is bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "The Nashville Network", now "The _National_ Network"... we're not just for hicks anymore

      Hey! Not everybody in Nashville is a hick. Some of them are rednecks.

  7. Macrovision? AntiCopy process. by dasheiff · · Score: 2, Insightful
    All seven discs are encoded with the Macrovision? AntiCopy process.

    Yeah, right! All this really means is that there will now be DIVX copies of Next Gen online.

    1. Re:Macrovision? AntiCopy process. by mrjohnson · · Score: 1

      No, really.

      What does that mean? Will I be able to play that on my linux box (d4d)?

      I'm not buying the thing if they're including draconian DRM in it.

    2. Re:Macrovision? AntiCopy process. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Macrovision is a protection mechanism that works only on a standard TV signal (PAL/NTSC/SECAM). It screws with the AGC on your VCR and projection TV, causing it to fade from white to black.

      A simple "video stabiliser" or (more expensive) time base corrector will fix the problem.

      Since it only works in the analog domain, you have nothing to worry about should you want to watch the episodes on your computer. The only time macrovision will prevent you from using the content on your computer is when you try to capture video from brain-damaged cards and drivers.

      I don't think linux could give two shits about detecting it, but YMMV.

    3. Re:Macrovision? AntiCopy process. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      What does that mean? Will I be able to play that on my linux box (d4d)?

      Macrovision is a "shoot yourself in the foot" technology that makes it impossible to plug your DVD and VCR into the TV in a usable chain. It prevents people from making low-quality copies on a VCR, and instead forces them to make perfect digital copies using their computers.

      What it means is that when you rip the DVDs, be sure to use the "remove macrovision" option.

    4. Re:Macrovision? AntiCopy process. by /dev/trash · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Well better stick to TNN then....

    5. Re:Macrovision? AntiCopy process. by cockroach2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      macrovision tries to stop people from copying their dvds to vhs.

      1) who would want to do that? the only answer can be: people who don't have a dvd player yet. and i don't really see why they shouldn't do it. "professionals" will have ways to circumvent those protections anyway, which leads us directly to

      2) the matrox g550's tv out apparently ignores macrovision, and for TNT2 cards there's a 'tv tool' to disable it.

    6. Re:Macrovision? AntiCopy process. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is interesting that the macrovision thingie isn't on the DVD itself, it is in the players, and is enabled in the NTSC video out signal by a code on the disk. With a software player, you simply don't need to add the macrovision scrambling code to the output.

  8. Don't forget File Rogue! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    File Rogue is getting pretty damn good!

    1. Re:Don't forget File Rogue! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How well does it do with pr0n?

      What we need is a pr0n only p2p app.

    2. Re:Don't forget File Rogue! by lordkuri · · Score: 0

      here ya go --> http://www.pornster.com

  9. Will they play on your machines? by -douggy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All seven discs are encoded with the Macrovision(TM) AntiCopy process. The above information pertains to the North American release only.

    When are we getting them in region 2? Will ours be macrovision free? As we know only you US guys copy them to VHS for leet pirate salez :o)

    This post is not serious

    1. Re:Will they play on your machines? by Foddrick · · Score: 2, Informative

      Seem's like region 2 will be coming out.

    2. Re:Will they play on your machines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Dumping to video is pretty easy - get an nVidia geForce based card with TV out, enable TwinView mode, and send the video and audio out to your VCR. Voila. Macrovision gone; and your tape is ready.

    3. Re:Will they play on your machines? by Howie · · Score: 1

      Too bad the video quality will suck worse than a 4th generation tape - or is that just my GeForce? *damn* fringy picture.

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    4. Re:Will they play on your machines? by AntiNorm · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why the heck would they want to region-protect STTNG DVDs anyway? The industry claims that region coding is there so that they can control the release of movies, etc. -- but STTNG is no movie. If they use region coding on something like this, the MPAA's argument for having region coding gets flushed down the drain. It becomes quite apparent (as if it wasn't already) that region coding is there for more than what they claim it is.

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    5. Re:Will they play on your machines? by snicker · · Score: 2

      I would suspect that ST:TNG falls under the category you describe as etc.. Seriously, though, I don't think using region incoding on a television series invalidates the MPAA's argument - it doesn't stop people from still using the encoding to "protect" movies.
      This should not be viewed as an endorsement of idiotic abuses of media rights.
      *n

    6. Re:Will they play on your machines? by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 2
      Why the heck would they want to region-protect STTNG DVDs anyway? The industry claims that region coding is there so that they can control the release of movies, etc. -- but STTNG is no movie. If they use region coding on something like this, the MPAA's argument for having region coding gets flushed down the drain. It becomes quite apparent (as if it wasn't already) that region coding is there for more than what they claim it is.

      One of the reasons *I* always heard given, along with the MPAA reasons, were that it would allow studios to implement price controls for different regions of the world (obviously, regions with low income and so forth will be priced differently than the USA, where people (except for right now, anyways) make oodles of cash). Sucks, but there's no legal reason I can think of for them to NOT do this. Of course, I don't see that there's a legal reason for people NOT to hax0r their DVD player to play all regions/etc. Ditto for firmware hacks and so forth..

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    7. Re:Will they play on your machines? by leuk_he · · Score: 2, Informative

      Good that you posted as ac.

      get an nVidia geForce based card with TV out, enable TwinView mode, and send the video and audio out to your VCR. Voila. Macrovision gone;

      1. Macrovision isn't gone. your video will like S****
      2. Tvout on most geforce cards is not that good: it will be in letterbox format. And the image quality is not DVD quality in lots of cases. But it depends on the card.
      3. Some DVD play software does not play "twinview" it show the dvd only on the monitor.

    8. Re:Will they play on your machines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
      According to that reasoning us europeans are doing pretty darn well. At least, if you look at the pricetag on the R2 Simpsons -box.

      R1 Box £17.99 Delivered
      R2 Box £31.99 Delivered

    9. Re:Will they play on your machines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are using windows, Macrovision will be turned on on the TV out. It's a requirement for software DVD players and graphics cards+drivers.

    10. Re:Will they play on your machines? by cb0y · · Score: 0

      Ahwell, nothing stopping me from copying it..... wankers

    11. Re:Will they play on your machines? by -douggy · · Score: 2

      That doesn't mean you cannot turn it off.

    12. Re:Will they play on your machines? by dr00g911 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There will be a separate set for the UK for a variety of reasons, but there's one reason in particular that comes to mind. The episode (I forget the title) dealing with Tasha's homeworld and terrorism was banned in the UK because it contains a line stating that terror attacks lead to Irish independence. So, in effect, there's a season that's one episode shorter in the UK. FWIW...

    13. Re:Will they play on your machines? by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2


      According to that reasoning us europeans are doing pretty darn well. At least, if you look at the pricetag on the R2 Simpsons -box.

      R1 Box [play.com] £17.99 Delivered
      R2 Box [play.com] £31.99 Delivered


      That ignores that the fact that the UK is a much smaller market to pay back on the production start-up costs, that the BBFC charges ludicrous amounts of money to "rate" videos, a requirement to be legally sold in the UK, and also the high VAT taxes among other things.

    14. Re:Will they play on your machines? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      it would allow studios to implement price controls for different regions of the world

      Sucks, but there's no legal reason I can think of for them to NOT do this.

      I believe this is an example of what economists call "price discrimination." Price discrimination is not possible/practical in a free market. This might be used as evidence that the movie studios are colluding, or that they form a collective monopoly. Now abusing monopolistic powers is illegal under US law....
      Just a thought....

  10. This is better... by wo1verin3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    then the way they packaged the original series, by putting 2 episodes per DVD and charging $20-$30 per 2 episodes.

    I'll be collecting these, and hoping the original series, as well as Voyager is released in this fashion.

    I can't imagine DS:9 would sell quite as well... :)

    1. Re:This is better... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      as well as Voyager is released in this fashion.

      I can't imagine DS:9 would sell quite as well... :)


      What!? I thought DS9 was SOO much better than Voyager. Even though it was a bit more soap-opera-ie, the plots were better and more diverse (but not as good as TNG).
      Also, DS9 had more hot women ;-)

    2. Re:This is better... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      DS9 had more hot women?

      Jeri Ryan cancels out the DS:9 women.

    3. Re:This is better... by Masem · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I've read they've committeed to doing the full TNG run as series packaging, and will decide if the same is merited for DS9 and VOY depending on sales (and compare with TOS). If this method works, then they'll rerelease TOS in series format as well.

      I hope more TV series are released in this fashion. For example, Farscape is still 2eps a disk, making it unweldly to get. If you consider that you can cut the cost of production by having one large inset booklet and combined packaging, it's much more reasonable on both end of the sale.

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      "Pinky, you've left the lens cap of your mind on again." - P&TB
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    4. Re:This is better... by doooras · · Score: 0

      i don't know, man... i always wanted to count Jadzia's spots.

    5. Re:This is better... by AnalogBoy · · Score: 2

      In TN, at least at Best Buy, they were only $14.00 per DVD set.. still steep. They could have at -least- fit a 3rd episode onto each DVD. Or a fourth. Better than the $12.99 for a video tape with one episode on it they did in the early 90's, though.

    6. Re:This is better... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And see just how far down they went...

      mmmmmmmmm.

    7. Re:This is better... by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 2

      Shrug, I actually preferred DS9 episodes (mid to end series run, the first one or two seasons weren't that great) to Voyager episodes and was sad to see it go. Voyager only had a handful of episodes I *truely* loved, and once the met the Borg it went uphill from there. =)

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    8. Re:This is better... by instinctdesign · · Score: 1

      Even stores like FYE have them for about 15.00 I work for them and our prices are high (as I've been told ad nausium), but since I get them for 30% off... Anyhow, I kinda think it'd be worse releasing them like the original series. I'm not a huge trekker, so correct me if I'm wrong... but there were 40 TOS episodes to TNGs 70 or so, right? That would add up real fast I'd think.

      Anyhow, I might buy some of the later seasons, something about the first season... naa...

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    9. Re:This is better... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TNG had something like 178 episodes.

    10. Re:This is better... by lunadude · · Score: 1

      At $100 per season (22 episodes I believe), that's $4.50 an episode (not counting any extras). Sounds like a good deal.

    11. Re:This is better... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is better? $4.5 per episode? For a 14 year old TV show? That's still on TV! Are you mad? Save the planet! Stop buying this crap!

    12. Re:This is better... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DS9 was a hell of alot better then VoyaBORE (sp?), even when compared to the first season (maybe).

      ''enough with the holodecks already."

    13. Re:This is better... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2

      This is better? $4.5 per episode? For a 14 year old TV show?

      Better than $7.50 an episode for the original series, which is about 30 years old, isn't it?

      So? What does age really have to do with it?

      That's still on TV!

      Maybe where you are. It's not on the broadcast anywhere near me, and I'd rather pay for this than buy cable.

      Believe it or not, I'd personally rather pay for the DVDs than pay for cable, as cable and over the air broadcasting has ads that get in the way of the actual show.

      Then that's also discounting the possibility that the DVD video could easily be better in quality, and has the 5.1 audio to boot.

      Stop buying this crap!

      That is only your opinion. And I wish slashdotters would lighten up and quit being so damn opinionated, but then it wouldn't be Slashdot without it.

    14. Re:This is better... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jeri Ryan was only breasts, and not even very large ones. Try looking at her ugly mug and tell me that you could hit that without brownbagging.

    15. Re:This is better... by nurightshu · · Score: 1

      Even better really -- IIRC, only season 1 was 22 episodes long. After that, they were 26 episodes (although there may have been one season that was cut short; I'm not sure). At that rate, it works out to ~3.85 an episode.

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  11. YES ! Now just a few more shows ... by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's about time bloody time Paramoun! Who would pay $20 for 2 episodes on a VHS/DVD ?? X-Files on DVD did it right from the beginning. Each season for ~ $120.

    Now we just need Babylon 5, Futurama, Deep Space 9, and Red Drawf on DVD and I'd be a happy sci-fi geek! Oh yeah, and the complete Lord of the Rings. ;-)

    1. Re:YES ! Now just a few more shows ... by Gid1 · · Score: 2

      Now we just need Babylon 5, Futurama, Deep Space 9, and Red Drawf on DVD and I'd be a happy sci-fi geek!

      Well, B5 is already on Region 1 DVD, and will (allegedly) be coming to R2 in March. However, it looks like Warner UK is being a bit clueless... one TV movie per £20 disc?!?

    2. Re:YES ! Now just a few more shows ... by Gid1 · · Score: 2

      Okay, before I get flamed, *some* of B5 is on DVD =)

    3. Re:YES ! Now just a few more shows ... by glwtta · · Score: 2

      Now we just need Babylon 5, Futurama, Deep Space 9, and Red Drawf on DVD and I'd be a happy sci-fi geek!

      I have pretty much every single episode of Futurama (some not great quality, though) - it's all over the net. (Hey, it's not sealing if the won't even take your money by not releasing it)

      but yeah B5, DS9 and Red Dwarf - sign me up!

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    4. Re:YES ! Now just a few more shows ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, how dare they not even release it on DVD (not VHS thank you) the day after it airs...

    5. Re:YES ! Now just a few more shows ... by Sivax256 · · Score: 1

      I personally have all of Red Dwarf on vhs, but dvd's would be SO much better. Maybe we will get them after the movie comes out this year.

    6. Re:YES ! Now just a few more shows ... by etceteral · · Score: 2


      I would pay damn good money if they ever released Max Headroom DVD's....

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    7. Re:YES ! Now just a few more shows ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but the remastered red dwarf's look all nasty...

    8. Re:YES ! Now just a few more shows ... by Sivax256 · · Score: 1

      I never saw the original versions so I don't know the difference.

  12. Entertainment worth paying for by imrdkl · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    And waiting for. In long lines... with suitable body armor and urban warfare armaments to fight off the hordes at Wherehouse on the day they ship.

  13. Re:Yea, right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I can barely stand to watch it on TV. To have a permanent copy in my house would be intolerable.

    I am married to a trekky in denial. It's okay, but you have to be careful to hide any videotapes you value. I bought a copy of Two Moon Junction once, but it was used to record over a trek episode before I got a chance to watch the movie.

  14. More Wil Wheaton! by cliffy2000 · · Score: 1, Funny

    Thank you! Now I can DIGITALLY peruse my collection for those delightful Wesley Crusher moments!

    1. Re:More Wil Wheaton! by tunesmith · · Score: 2
      Didn't you hear? Wil is cool now. You are sooooooo out of touch. ;-)

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  15. TNT does not maintain aspect ratio by irq · · Score: 1

    Yeah, their picture shrinking technology really sucks, they don't even maintain the aspect ratio, they just smoosh their message in at the bottom, and they do it on almost all of their shows. It really blows.

    1. Re:TNT does not maintain aspect ratio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it is not bad if you convert it to DivX and use cropping + resizing filters in the process. Sure beats some urgy station ID bug.

    2. Re:TNT does not maintain aspect ratio by Aelgifa · · Score: 1

      Yeah well it sure as hell beats out what MTV decided to do with their programming. Just be glad watching Cable Television isn't like paying for 500 channels of MTV style integrated marketing. You know, where you only get to watch 3/4 of the original image because of some stupid whirly gig in the corner that's obscenly distracting obscures everything underneath it. Then every five minutes some stupid pop up in the other corner that obscures another quarter of the image AND proceeds too voice over the audio in an annoying way. This is part of the reason that I quit watching MTV years ago, the other reasons include that I grew up and oh yeah the music went to shite.

    3. Re:TNT does not maintain aspect ratio by JohnG · · Score: 2
      This is part of the reason that I quit watching MTV years ago, the other reasons include that I grew up and oh yeah the music went to shite.


      MTV Plays music?! ;-)

    4. Re:TNT does not maintain aspect ratio by Aelgifa · · Score: 1

      yeah, a long time ago they did.

      The M in Mtv doesn't actually stand "Marketing", although I could see why one would be confused.


      *Jesus that made me feel old.

    5. Re:TNT does not maintain aspect ratio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FYI MTV does this to avoid paying the record companies to play music videos. The onscreen crap is considered 'editorial comment' and saves them millions.

  16. Paramount gets it right. by funkhauser · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Having screwed up quite a bit in the past, it's good to see Paramount getting their act together with this boxed set. I guess they're just trying to make up for Enterprise.

    1. Re:Paramount gets it right. by I.T.R.A.R.K. · · Score: 0
      Is Enterprise still on? Did it even make it past the first six episodes?

      Um, yes. This is an honest question.

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    2. Re:Paramount gets it right. by servasius_jr · · Score: 1

      Having screwed up quite a bit in the past, it's good to see Paramount getting their act together with this boxed set. I guess they're just trying to make up for Enterprise.

      Whoa, there! Let's not get ahead of ourselves -- they're still making up for DS9.

    3. Re:Paramount gets it right. by servasius_jr · · Score: 4, Informative

      Is Enterprise still on? Did it even make it past the first six episodes?

      Um, yes. This is an honest question.


      Yup. New episodes in January, I believe. I think those pouty Vulcan lips will keep the show going long enough to hit its stride and attract a following. With some luck, they'll rethink the music.

    4. Re:Paramount gets it right. by glwtta · · Score: 1

      ummm... their typical (and I presume still shrinking/tightening) costuming considered - which lips are you talking about? (or do we have to wait for sweeps time for my question to be relevant?)

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    5. Re:Paramount gets it right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I kind of wish they would actually put Enterprise on a real network.. I live in a decent sized city, and we don't even fucking get UPN!

      Damn paramount, fucking put Enterprise on FOX or something so I can actually watch it!

    6. Re:Paramount gets it right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DS9? Why would they have to make up for DS9? Were there any episodes of DS9 that I missed with fucking wrestlers in them?

      They should make up for Voyager. Especially the first half of the series and half of all the seasons afterwards.. Hey, you can fuck some of the stuff up some of the time.. but you can't fuck everything up all the time... or something.
      Still Voyager sucks.

    7. Re:Paramount gets it right. by Alsee · · Score: 2

      With some luck, they'll rethink the music.

      I want them to do something to the music alright,
      but I'd have said something much more elaborate and graphic than "rethink".

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    8. Re:Paramount gets it right. by slitfinger · · Score: 1

      http://www.trektoday.com/news/131201_01.shtml

      It doesn't look like they plan on changing the theme. :(

    9. Re:Paramount gets it right. by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      The music point is dead on... they need to use Creed's latest hit for the theme music. with a smattering of Prodigy and a bit of older NiN.

      Although when they hit the "holodeck episodes" (by finding an alien ship with a holodeck) they can do things like jamming with ICP or the Mansons... Marylin meets the real manson family could be a funny one.

      they NEED to take it out of a death time-slot. and put reruns of that weeks episode on later in the week. (Sunday at 1pm would be a great position)
      oh and do some fricking cross channel advertising! cable adverts cost almost nothing... basically if you have $1500.00 you can get your spot on every high visibility cable channel at a nauseating level for 2 weeks.

      if they dont srart promoting it and paying attention to it..... its dead.

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    10. Re:Paramount gets it right. by slavetrade55 · · Score: 1

      Call me fucked in the head, but I like Enterprise, and I don't mind the opening. Who gives a shit if there's singing...boo fucking hoo.

      From what I've seen the show is a hundred percent better than voyager was on most days, and at least matches TNG's first season, not to mention a host of shitty TNG episodes that came in the last couple seasons (haunted candle for instance).

      I like the concept behind Enterprise, I like the characters (no one in voyager was the least bit interesting), and I've liked all the episodes so far. The Andorian Incident was badass. (Well, maybe i just say that 'cause it had the guy who played Wayoon on DS9. Fuck I loved that guy. Remember when Worf snapped his neck?)

      Anyway, if anyone reading this has stayed away from Enterprise based on the accusations leveled against it on slashdot and elsewhere, and because of some misdirected unease about it having lyrics in the opening, I'd just like to implore you to actually sit down and watch a couple episodes. You might be surprised by what you see.

      --RMT

  17. Re:Yea, right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  18. I'll wait for now... by supernova87a · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although I enjoy watching Star Trek TNG (and none of the other series for some reason), I won't be rushing out to buy this set. I just watched one of the first series episodes on TNN last week, and it was awful -- just like I remember.

    If you want to see bad dialog, melodramatic music, poor lighting, etc. then buy this set. Honestly, I feel a little embarassed for the cast and producers when these first episodes are shown on tv...

    Whenever I watch one of these first episodes, I feel like they were trying so hard, yet it just didn't come out right. There were cheesy props, outlandish plot lines, and the thoughtful issues that made later episodes a success weren't yet developed. I enjoy it more when the stories and cast were subtle and nuanced. These episodes stand out like an ugly sore in TNG's generally good later work.

    I'll wait till the uniforms change -- that's one of the turning points!

    1. Re:I'll wait for now... by Ataeagina · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As you corny as you say the first episodes were (I disagree, but I digress), they are still better than half of the damn crap on tv today.

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    2. Re:I'll wait for now... by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1

      Agreed, but I'll be upset if I don't have the entire collection.

      The characters didn't really devlop personalities beyond that of a coat hanger until mid season 2.

    3. Re:I'll wait for now... by glwtta · · Score: 2

      Isn't that a big part of the appeal of the various treks - if they weren't so bad, it just wouldn't be as much fun.

      That btw, does in no way apply to the new one - that's just bad. (Though I've seen all of 20 minutes, so I guess this is a fairly uninformed judgement) I don't know, maybe the difference is the blatant, "relevant" propaganda - the bit I did see had to do with some Vulcan, pacifist temple being overrun by (absolutly ridiculous looking) blue aliens - for some reason it reminded me of a very Huxleyish book I read in highschool, forget the name ("The Giver"? maybe - don't quote me on that) - anyway, the whole thing just reeked of a new low.

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    4. Re:I'll wait for now... by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 1
      "If you want to see bad dialog, melodramatic music, poor lighting, etc. then buy this set. "

      Some reasons to buy the first season DVD set (note to moderatrors: I'm being sarcastic):

      - See Troi with big hair in the TOS style wardrobe ;-)
      - See Wesley realise that the girls Rubicam III want him to teach them how to play ball, not how to have sex. (Episode Name: Justice)
      - See Troi show up nude (well you don't see much) at her 'wedding' in the episode "Haven."
      - See the guys in tight pants in "Angel One."
      - See Data dodge the possessed drilling laser in "Home Soil" - this was hilarious!
      - See Jonathan Frakes (Riker) get pulled into a pool of oil/ink in "Skin of Evil" - supposedly Levar Burton (Geordi) told Frakes that he was nuts to do the scene after it was shot.
      - Hear Captain Picard (or so it seemed) turn over command of the ship to Wesley Crusher in (The Naked Now (I think?))

    5. Re:I'll wait for now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, if you had finished watching, you would have seen that the Vulcan "Temple" was just cover for a massive spying operation that the Vulcans were using on the rediculous looking blue aliens. Also, the blue aliens were in the origonal series, so they have them there for continuity.

    6. Re:I'll wait for now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, that's the best Enterprise episode so far.

      It's like "Unbreakable", pretty good until the end, then you go, "Oh, cool!".

    7. Re:I'll wait for now... by yoink! · · Score: 2

      Whenever I watch one of these first episodes, I feel like they were trying so hard, yet it just didn't come out right. There were cheesy props, outlandish plot lines, and the thoughtful issues that made later episodes a success weren't yet developed. I enjoy it more when the stories and cast were subtle and nuanced. These episodes stand out like an ugly sore in TNG's generally good later work.

      Why is it that people always seem to forget how it was that they first learned to like and expect certain behaviours from characters. It seems that for many shows, especially STTNG and The Simpsons, even the most diehard fans hate the first seasons. I still love the first seasons, at times badly done and off the wall, it was during the first two seasons of these shows which people fell in love with; becoming 7 (and 13 respectively) season fans. Admittedly the budgets got higher and since the characters were more developed and understood by the audience there was more room for plot, but it was those critical first few episodes, when we were introduced to our heroes. They are still valuable in this respect.

      And for laughs.

    8. Re:I'll wait for now... by glwtta · · Score: 1

      Yes, I saw that part - the pacifist vulcans with their "morals" are really just a bunch of power crazy terrorists ready to squash their enemies at the first opportunity - how very fitting.

      What you mention was very much a part of my point. (btw, does this mean they are eventually going to have the ridiculous looking "original" Klingons on there as well?)

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  19. Memories of the early seasons by Mihg · · Score: 1

    Well, the first season will be released in March and additional season will be released every other month.

    That means that there won't be anything worth buying until September or so...

  20. Cost? by ImaLamer · · Score: 2

    Has anyone else really thought about these DVD tv episode deals?

    Seems to be a little too much. And when do we get Seinfeld, News Radio, or Night Court?

    1. Re:Cost? by instinctdesign · · Score: 1

      Who knows, I've read that Seinfeld is tied up in licensing issues, though don't quote me on that. Just hope that whatever TV series your looking for isn't owned by Warner Bros, because then you'll get about 10 'Best Of...' DVDs so you'll probably never be able to buy them all and especially not be able to 'collect them.' I'm just praying that when Cartoon Network (who's owned by Warner) releases Samurai Jack they pull a New Line and go it alone (well, mostly). So far they are doing ok, the four part movie is slated to come out in March.... after that... who knows.

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  21. Complete Seasons on DVD by Champaign · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was really excited initially when I saw they started releasing complete seasons of shows on DVD. Since getting a couple, truth be told, I hardly watch them at all... There's some things that I'm willing to invest the energy to put on and watch, and other things that I'm only willing to pick up when channel surfing.

    The only thing I've found them really valuable for is when someone hasn't seen a series, and I want to show them a few episodes (e.g. The Sopranos). I was delighted to get the first season of "The Simpsons" and tore through the special features, but haven't watched a single episode from it. Something like TNG everyone's seen and I really can't see myself getting a craving to see "Data's Day" and throwing it on...

    Am I a freak or do other people buy these things and not watch them?

    1. Re:Complete Seasons on DVD by Knightmare · · Score: 1

      If you are a freak so am I... and I will _still_ probably buy the Next Generation DVDs. I have EVERY Next Generation on the little columbia house video deal that came out a few years ago. I can guarantee I don't watch those.... I don't even own a VCR anymore.

    2. Re:Complete Seasons on DVD by Masem · · Score: 2

      I figure that, at some point, I'll have the urge to just watch one episode from the series set, and this makes it easier to find it than VHS and much easier to store. Sure, I might only watch some episodes once ever, but, there will be others that I will watch over and over again.

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    3. Re:Complete Seasons on DVD by issachar · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't buy them, but they're great for video rentals. D-Video near where I live will rent an entire season of The Soprano's for the regular rental price. ($4 CDN) ($2.50USD).

      Unfortunately, they only give you a single story arc of Dr. Who which is only about 4 episodes generally.

      Regardless, it's great for finding those episodes that you missed.

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    4. Re:Complete Seasons on DVD by smallpaul · · Score: 2

      No, you're not a freak. I'm the same way. There is something about knowing you can watch it whenever you feel like that makes you never feel like watching it. Part of it is that I feel like I spent money on so I should watch more carefully than I would "regular" TV (e.g. surfing Slashdot over 802.11b while watching).

    5. Re:Complete Seasons on DVD by Spirilis · · Score: 1

      Well, I wouldn't mind buying them sometime since I've seen a lot of miscellaneous rerun episodes from all the seasons, but not
      all of the episodes in sequence...

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    6. Re:Complete Seasons on DVD by weave · · Score: 2
      Or worse, owning it (er, licensing it) and then one day flipping channels and finding you're watching it on a broadcast or cable channel anyway.

      Now that's really stupid...

    7. Re:Complete Seasons on DVD by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 2
      This is where you need one of Pioneer's 301 DVD changers, so you can plop in all of the discs and just watch them as the mood strikes (the only inconvenience might be trying to find a specific episode amidst all of the discs). Plus, if this is like their 301 CD changers, you can link them together for a total of 602 DVD's. I agree though, normally when I buy TV shows on DVD, I usually might watch one or two episodes + all the extras, but I figured I'd provide the other option above for those who want to make their investment worthwhile. =)

      (Oh and BTW, the MSRP on that 301 changer is $1100 right now, but I'm sure you can a) find it cheaper on StreetPrices.com or b) wait for them to realize that the technology is the same as they used in their 301 CD changer, and lower the price accordingly.)

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    8. Re:Complete Seasons on DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a freak.

    9. Re:Complete Seasons on DVD by dangermouse · · Score: 1
      No, you're normal. I'm a freak. I've watched my Sopranos First Season DVD set at least four times, and I've now seen most of the episodes on my Second Season set twice.

      Then again, I have no TV service.

    10. Re:Complete Seasons on DVD by Leeto2 · · Score: 1

      I think it depends on the quality of the series. I recently borrowed some B5 tapes from a friend to check the video quality before dubbing. I ended up getting sucked into a 12 hr B5 marathon over the weekend.
      Maybe it's because B5 is a story arc and TNG is a episode to episode show.
      All I DO know is I will seriously dent my savings when B5 comes out on DVD, and I will likely watch all 5 years in one sitting.
      L2

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    11. Re:Complete Seasons on DVD by junkgrep · · Score: 1

      You are not a freak: you're obviously just too rich to know what to do with your money. Seriously, IN MY DREAMS am I able to afford buying things to the tune of several hundred dollars that I then don't even use.

  22. Months TNG DVDs will be released by bigdreamer · · Score: 3, Informative

    A new season will be released every other month

    March 2002: Season 1
    May 2002: Season 2
    July 2002: Season 3
    Septemeber 2002: Season 4
    November 2002: Season 5
    January 2003: Season 6
    March 2003: Season 7

    I can only afford 1 season. Which one should I get for my Dad? He likes them all.

    1. Re:Months TNG DVDs will be released by Anonymous+Pancake · · Score: 0

      I'd probably recommend season 3

    2. Re:Months TNG DVDs will be released by BitterOak · · Score: 1
      I liked the Fourth Season. Your mileage may vary. You might want to ask your Dad.

      You (or he) can check this site for episode listings, broken down by season.

      I suggest getting a second job so you can afford all seasons.

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    3. Re:Months TNG DVDs will be released by bytor4232 · · Score: 5, Informative
      I would say season 5 has to be one of the best:
      1. "Unification" with Leonard Nemoy was great. I love Picard calling Spock a "Cowboy Diplomat.".
      2. "Cause and Effect" is great as well, wonderful concept of "causality" loop made for a great story.
      3. "First Duty" was another good one, if for nothing but seeing Wes in the hot seat.
      4. "I Borg" with the borg "Hugh" becoming an individual was a great episode
      5. "The Next Phase" is another good episode, as much of a weenie Geordi was, this was a good one with Geordi as one of the primary stars.
      6. "The Inner Light" is my all time favorite episode. This is the one where a probe imprints Picard with all the experiences and trials of an entire society by making Picard live a life of one of the peoples.
      There are other episodes as well. I felt this was the pinnacle of their acting and story development. Don't get me wrong thou, seasons six and seven are awesome as well.
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    4. Re:Months TNG DVDs will be released by Restil · · Score: 2

      "Disaster" was one of my favorite episodes. Any event where EVERYTHING breaks down, massive confustion, and the simple issues of rank vs. experience, brings out more development in the characters and shows how people really hold up in a crisis.

      Dianna taking command of the ship because she was the senior officer present, although she had no idea what to do.

      Worf having to deliver a baby because he was the only one present with the necessary basic medical training.

      Data having to sacrifice himself (potentially) in order to achieve their goal.

      And Picard being stuck in a turboshaft, wounded with three crying children. Ultimately his worst nightmare come true.

      -Restil

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    5. Re:Months TNG DVDs will be released by justsomecomputerguy · · Score: 1

      Just wanted to agree with you that "The Inner Light" is one of if not the best episode ever. Don't care if this comment earns me points or not, I just had to take the time to say I agree with you.

    6. Re:Months TNG DVDs will be released by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Funny

      Which one should I get for my Dad? He likes them all.


      Well, I'm not exactly objective here, but I think the 4th season was the best one. I can't quote you titles and guest stars (and I'm sure I'll catch hell for that), but I thought we had more winners than losers that year.

      And, of course, in a flash of brilliance, I chose to celebrate that streak of great shows by quitting.

    7. Re:Months TNG DVDs will be released by Sloppy · · Score: 1

      * I Borg" with the borg "Hugh" becoming an individual was a great episode

      No, that sucked. The last thing I wanted to see was a "kinder, gentler Borg".

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    8. Re:Months TNG DVDs will be released by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Worf having to deliver a baby...

      Congradulations, you are fully dilated!

    9. Re:Months TNG DVDs will be released by dbolger · · Score: 2, Funny

      I can't quote you titles and guest stars (and I'm sure I'll catch hell for that)...
      Wil you need to learn the art of the "Google search". Without it, I'd appear at least 50% stupider on Slashdot than I already do ;)

  23. I was such a TNG addict back in the day by Y-Crate · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But somehow, watching them years later, especially after going through the entire run of B5 and being a bit older, I find that many of the episodes really, really suck badly.

    They simply don't hold up well at all.

    And while the first season of most shows usually pretty weak, I find it took a long time for TNG to really get anywhere. The early episodes of the first season are especially painful and I find them completely unwatchable.

    I'll just pass on the DVDs and remember TNG for how I saw it then and avoid any reruns. Let the pleasent memories remain.

    1. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to agree with you. The original Trek episodes from the 60s are still relevant and interesting, but TNG episodes are unwatchable. Deana Troi: "I sense he's not telling the truth!"
      No shit, Sherlock. That's some fine writing, TNG. Too bad for Michael "Worf" Dorn - I hear he can't find a job. Maybe he'll show up on Holywood Squares beside Mr. T.

    2. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by Kythorn · · Score: 1

      I liked the old nostalgia better.

    3. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      ISTR that Michael Dorn is the voice of "I Am Weasel" on the Cartoon Network.
      His baritone works well for a suave know-it-all.

    4. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by slavetrade55 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, TNG had some poor, poor moments. Does anyone remember:

      "Ach! lassie, ye canna keep that haunted candle!"

      ;)

      --RMT

    5. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by btlzu2 · · Score: 1

      What is this, a new generation of geeks ragging on TNG or something? God, I thought all geeks loved TNG like me. You can excuse a few cheesy lines for interesting stories and a wonderful escape from the real world. And, dammit, I love the holodeck episodes too. Why the hell is everyone cheesing TNG so much?
      Oh well, I still love the shows.

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    6. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by Restil · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think the problem, primarily with the next generation, is it's just too..... campy. There's no internal conflict. Concepts of a 14 year old boy at the helm seem to go over perfectly with the rest of the crew, many who have spent years and years in training for just such a privalage. People that spend 7 years doing the exact same job and never getting promoted.

      At least DS9 had elements to it which made it more realistic (as realistic as sci-fi can get anyways) and had more interesting story arcs around several common themes. It allowed them to have more character development, and people actually went somewhere.

      We see Nog start the series as a juvinile delinquent and over the years become a respected officer in startfleet. The most growth that any characters show in TNG is Data, and thats for little more than very poorly done comic relief.

      The battles are more intense. Civilians actually get scared when things start blowing up around them. Children of captains somehow don't always aspire to join Starfleet. And sometimes, your most powerful allies are dishonest assassins who used to work for the other side, and if not for exile would gladly join up with them again.

      MUCH more realistic in my opinion.

      -Restil

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    7. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by gilroy · · Score: 2
      Blockquoth the poster:

      Why the hell is everyone cheesing TNG so much?


      Well, it was OK, but then ST:Voyager came along and raised /hack/ the bar /gasp/...


      Oh, darn, I almost said it with a straight face... :)

    8. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 2, Funny
      "We see Nog start the series as a juvinile delinquent and over the years become a respected officer in startfleet. The most growth that any characters show in TNG is Data, and thats for little more than very poorly done comic relief. "

      And what about Data's cat Spot? That cat had more changes than any other character since it seemed to change gender more than once! In the episode "Genesis" it gave birth, but then again in "Generations" they refer to Spot as "he" several times.

    9. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 1
      "Yes, TNG had some poor, poor moments. Does anyone remember:"Ach! lassie, ye canna keep that haunted candle!" "

      What about:

      Geordi: Oh, I see what you're saying, Commander! We kick it into full warp 9 and blast outta here! WHOOWEE!" - Booby Tray

    10. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

      Well, it was OK, but then ST:Voyager came along and raised /hack/ the bar /gasp/.. Nah, that was 7 of 9, and Torres running around in her Starfleet Issue tank top...

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    11. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by guttentag · · Score: 1
      Concepts of a 14 year old boy at the helm seem to go over perfectly with the rest of the crew, many who have spent years and years in training for just such a privalage. People that spend 7 years doing the exact same job and never getting promoted.

      The media stopped calling this "brainwashing" some time ago when they realized they could make good use of it. It's very beneficial for employers. You teach a kid that it's good to be the prodigy at the helm and loyal workers spend 7 years doing the exact same job, and they'll be begging you not to send them home from work at the end of the day.

      I avidly watched TNG for years. In my college years, I was so thrilled to be "the kid at the helm" at work as an intern I didn't care about the fact that I was only getting paid $10 an hour.

      "Don't you have classes to go to or something?"
      "I wanna stay here and realign the fusion induction coils. Please don't make me go back to that horrible place!"

      "I'd like to have you forget about school and work here full-time, but your parents would kill me."
      "They don't have to know."

      It took a lot of reverse brainwashing to show me I could easily be earning four times as much money, but for a long time the organization was saving a fortune.

      So don't be too harsh on the writers; they were only trying to mold good little workers for a strong economy.

    12. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, What the hell?

      Voyager was so full of shit..
      let's see.. they had a wrestler, bad technology, a damned cause and effect loop that shouldn't have even started! (the planet blows up, they inspect and then find out they cause it to blow up because they inspected.. WTFWTFWTF What prevents *anything* from looping them like that?! ARGH)

      Voyager is bad, Brannon Braga is the worst thing to ever happen to startrek. I hope he gets fired and maybe Trek would get back on course.

    13. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by qbfreak · · Score: 1
      What is this, a new generation of geeks ragging on TNG or something? I thought all geeks loved TNG like me. You can excuse a few cheesy lines for interesting stories and a wonderful escape from the real world. And I love the holodeck episodes too.
      TNG was great, too bad it's not on broadcast anymore (yes, I am one of the few with a cable modem and no cable TV). Voyager starts to grow on you after about the 3rd (?) season. It was Voyager's holodeck going awry that sometimes got annoying. Will I buy TNG on DVD? Maybe if I get a DVD player first. But before I do that I'll have to get a CD player for the car...
    14. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, he does a butt load of voices. Or, rather he does the same voice, for a butt load of characters.

    15. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by Gameshow+Bob · · Score: 1

      DS9:TNG::HGTV:Speed Vision

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    16. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by Junta · · Score: 2

      Ok, so you are saying seeing Wesley at the Helm of the enterprise caused you to skip class and work instead? Now either this is really stupid, and if true, well, I have no idea what to think of you... I would imagine that the scenario in TNG was more along the lines of how time worked in the Simpsons. Aside from the unavoidable aging of the real actors, it seems that while time passes and there is some cause and effect between episodes, the structure is in a sort of suspended animation and time doesn't really pass that much, or at least time doesn't factor into the writing that much.

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    17. Re:I was such a TNG addict back in the day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. Worst Episode Ever. I hope someone got fired over that. Well, my breakfast burrito is rapidly congealing. Gotta go.

  24. So it's cheesy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    There were cheesy props, outlandish plot lines, and the thoughtful issues that made later episodes a success weren't yet developed.

    You know, that sounds like the original series... and I liked it, too.
  25. Damn. by lnxslak · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    We are the MPAA, We will add your money and individuality to our own. Resistance is futile.

    damn.

    lnxslak.

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  26. Of course! How could I have been so stupid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #include "sarcasm.h"

    Well, I've certainly been shown the errors of my ways. I'm a full fledged trekkie now.

    Where's the next ST Convention? I have to sign up.

  27. When we get them region 2 by twoshortplanks · · Score: 1
    Sooner than the americans it would seem.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005UO5 M (series 1, 4th March 2002)

    We're way ahead on Buffy as well.

    Now if only we could keep up for movie releases.

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    1. Re:When we get them region 2 by Cheesy+Fool · · Score: 0

      Off-topic, what happened to big trouble in little china R2, its been out for months on R1 and was supposed to be out on R2 back in november.

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  28. Advantages of TNN image squashing by yerricde · · Score: 5, Informative

    Can you explain this "image squashing technology" for us non-Americans? Do they change the aspect ratio?

    TNN (The National Network, formerly The Nashville Network before Viacom bought it, moved all its programming to CMT, and turned TNN into a TBS/USA clone) vertically scales the image on many of its shows into the top 6/7 or so of US TV's 240 visible scanlines. In the bottom 1/7, TNN displays its logo and unobtrusive textual advertisements. Good points: It lets TNN go longer without a commercial interruption, it moves the captions out of the way of the picture, and it's easily switched off for broadcasting letterboxed feature films. Bad point: It modifies the image.

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    1. Re:Advantages of TNN image squashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bad point: It modifies the image.

      Er, and you've got freakin' text constantly during the show. I guess you don't mind, but I find it makes anything on TNN unwatchable.

    2. Re:Advantages of TNN image squashing by sholden · · Score: 1

      Er, and you've got freakin' text constantly during the show. I guess you don't mind, but I find it makes anything on TNN unwatchable.

      Surely you could just gaff tape over the bottom 1/7th of the screen...

    3. Re:Advantages of TNN image squashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Bad point: It modifies the image.

      Er, and you've got freakin' text constantly during the show. I guess you don't mind, but I find it makes anything on TNN unwatchable.

      I can't turn off the "Sony" just below the image on my TV either, but I don't complain about it.

    4. Re:Advantages of TNN image squashing by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 3

      If you use something like dscaler to watch TV and combine that with a window resizing program that can stretch windows off-screen like YxY, then it would be trivial to stretch the image back to the right proportion and then put the "ad-bar" off the bottom of the screen. If you don't watch TV on your computer you are probably SOL, but lots of people have got them hooked up to their projection systems and HDTV sets. This is an MS-Windows based solution though....

      dscaler
      YxY

      (you might not even need YxY with the more recent versions of dscaler).

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    5. Re:Advantages of TNN image squashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The image scaling TNN is using is very messed up. It looks like they're resizing images as frames across field boundaries, so you get weird flickers in the motion, and even worse, horrible judder on fast motion and pans. Looking at edges shows this distinct bleeding of colour in weird scanline patterns.

      It's very messed up, whatever they're doing.

    6. Re:Advantages of TNN image squashing by ez76 · · Score: 1
      Bad point: It modifies the image
      It also promotes uneven CRT wear, particularly noticeable on rear-projection TV sets after extended use at higher contrast settings. Same thing goes for stock tickers, opaque network logos, etc.
    7. Re:Advantages of TNN image squashing by Junior+Samples · · Score: 1

      I've added two resistors and a switch to my TV which increases the vertical size and offsets the vertical centering for watching TNG on TNN. The aspect ratio is completely restored. Only a small portion of the TNN icon is visible in the bottom corner of the screen.

  29. THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!! by minus23 · · Score: 1

    What season was that episode from? --- Heh.. worth buying that season just for that episode. ;)

    1. Re:THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!! by erpbridge · · Score: 2, Informative

      Chain Of Command, parts 1 and 2
      Season 6

    2. Re:THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What made that a great line was that he spoke it like Corky from Life Goes On :-)

    3. Re:THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!! by 110100 · · Score: 1

      best episode(s) ever

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    4. Re:THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's just a ripoff of 1984. Read the book instead, it's much better.

    5. Re:THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, it's not, actually.

  30. What is TNNs problem? by Y-Crate · · Score: 0

    And, I might add, the Oxygen network's?

    For some odd reason, it is now "cool" to put a useless black band at the bottom of the screen at all times. And we're not talking letterboxing here, but just a useless black band that tells you the name of the show you are watching!

    I refuse to watch TNN or any other network that butchers the picture with such filth. It is utterly useless and wastes valuble screen realestate.

    Oh, someone might think "Hey, we need to remind people what channel they are watching".

    OK, that makes sense, but there are other ways to do that!

    This only reminds me what channel I should avoid at all costs from now on.

    1. Re:What is TNNs problem? by sunoxen · · Score: 0

      Yes yes, quite right!

      How can I stand to watch the Lebanese lesbian hour, oprah-robics, the plenitude of "safe men" movies, Xena, SheCommerse, or the 5 hour relationship advice show with a black bar sitting on the bottom of the screen? Not to mention their tech show: "Web Grrrls rockin' the Net with a Message about Domestic Violence."

      Damn you, Oxygen Network, shape up! Or I plan to start a campaign to boycott all of your sponsors. Even Slim-Fast.

  31. Can we can an official comment... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    from Will Wheaton?

    How does he feel about bringing back those childhood nightmares of being Mr Crusher?

  32. Legality Issues by LeiraHoward · · Score: 2, Interesting
    What in the world are you people thinking? One of the reasons these companies have to make their products cost so much is so they actually make a profit. Every illegal copy takes away from that.

    I know Star Trek is a huge enterprise (pun intended) now, but there are still a lot of people out there who worked really hard on the project, and deserve to get a bit of reward for their work.

    My general rule of thumb for file copying is this: do I take income away from the owners of the copyright? For instance, when you watch TV and videotape an episode, the television company has already paid for the rights for the episode to be shown. So you're not taking anything away from the company. However, if they make a special high-quality DVD edition, and you just copy it, they are losing the money they would have gotten if you rented or *gasp* even bought it.

    $100 for a season isn't that unreasonable. It works out to something like $3.50-$4.50 per episode, which is not that hard for you all to do. If you really want them, save your money and buy it! It works out to less than $2/day if each season comes out every two months. Not that hard to do, folks. I know some people who put more than that in the vending machines at work!

    Besides which, once you figure in the price of your internet connection, and purchasing CDs to burn the data on, you really aren't saving that much money, but you're getting an inferior quality ripped file!

    As for me, I think I'll start saving my money now. That extra footage bit sounds cool!

    1. Re:Legality Issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While it's alot of fun to download VCD's of Babylon 5 episodes and such, you have a point I agree with - the extra features, even more so than the extra quality, make the dvd version worth the price! In general, cut scenes and alternate endings are -=sweet=- and make an honest man of even an old pirate like myself!

      I even bought me mum a dvd player for christmas, she's made the mistake of buying lots of movies in vhs format, some of the oldest already look like shait (It's not a curse word if you say shit in Irish)...

    2. Re:Legality Issues by Dudio · · Score: 2, Interesting

      One of the reasons these companies have to make their products cost so much is so they actually make a profit. Every illegal copy takes away from that.

      Let's not forget production costs, which I seem to recall reading were in the range of $1 million/episode for TNG. Also, I think the actual monetary loss to the studios as a result of personal copying is a lot less than the industry would have you believe. The people who d/l ripped copies generally do so for one of three reasons: (1) they can't afford to buy the commercial product; (2) they refuse to buy the commercial product, but wouldn't mind having a copy lying around; (3) they want to check out the product before deciding whether to buy it. Generally, people who want the product and can afford it will buy it. Granted, there are people who will decide not to buy the product if they can get a reasonable copy for free, but with TNN running two episodes of TNG a day, most of those people will just set their VCRs and be done with it.

    3. Re:Legality Issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      100 % right - if its worth buying - then pay for it
      just like XP - I've tried it, it works
      now I'll go buy it

    4. Re:Legality Issues by Phexro · · Score: 4, Insightful
      what in the world are you thinking? there are only a few reasons to buy a tv series on dvd:

      • extra features
      • higher quality than tv
      • you're a rampaging collector


      the extra features usually aren't pirated, just the main feature.

      the difference in quality between cable (or digital cable) broadcasts and the dvd probably isn't noticeable after it's been compressed with divx, and if you're a rampaging collector, you'll buy the dvd anyways. and in most cases it would be to replace the collection of vhs tapes that the shows were recorded on, or to pick up that one episode from season n that they're missing.

      they broadcast the episodes for free for chrissakes. i'd feel just as bad about downloading the episodes as i would asking a friend to tape the show for me.
    5. Re:Legality Issues by fdiaz5583 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      JEEZE PEOPLE GET A GRIP! I'M SURE THAT THE MAN WAS ONLY JOKING. Everybody knows that Kazaa is for pirating music, software, and movies and that it is wrong. Alot of the nerds that read Slashdot have plenty of brains but not alot of personality. Learn to discern a joke (no matter how NOT funny it was, lol) and real legitimate comment. You might find yourself with more tangible friends, and less time with BIGMAMA6969.

    6. Re:Legality Issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every illegal copy takes away from that.

      That's how these companies come up with their hugely inflated estimates of how much money they're "loosing" due to piracy.

      Every illegal copy that would overwise have been purchased or rented takes away from their earnings. And that's pretty hard to estimate.

      Not to argue the moral issues in copyright infringement and whatnot. That's a separate issue.

      I'd just want to avoid the sloppy logic that says: Money lost = # of pirated copies x price per copy. It is, usually, far far less than that..

    7. Re:Legality Issues by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 2

      You forgot the best two reasons: uncut episodes, and THE OTHER SERIES YOU WANT ON DVD LATER.

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    8. Re:Legality Issues by cancrman · · Score: 2

      Word.

      You might classify me as the 'rampaging collector' type, but I love DVD TV collections. Sitting on my shelf I have Sopranos, Simpsons, X-Files, Sex and the City, Friends, Robotech and The Awful Truth (Buffy season 1 comes on Tuesday). I would love to add more to that collection. I want to see '24', the Tick animated series and other such things out there.

      I'm not against 'piracy' per se. I've bought literally 100x more CDs in the past two years because of Napster/Morpheus than I would have bought with out them. TV is different becuse you can see TNG episodes every day if you want to but Trek fans are rabid. Anyway I'm rambling so....

      Pete

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    9. Re:Legality Issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope you didn't actually pay anything for The Awful truth. How could they possibly justify putting that on dvd. Pat Buchanan has more sense and reason that that, and i think we all know how much sense Buchanan has.

    10. Re:Legality Issues by Phexro · · Score: 1

      don't know about you, but my vcr automagicly edits out commercials when it records. it's not too difficult to edit them out on a computer either.

      as for getting other t.v. series on dvd, see my previous post about downloading them instead.

    11. Re:Legality Issues by yobbo · · Score: 1

      What are YOU thinking? The people who make these shows get their reward - their yearly salary. The company that backed them gets their reward - tv ratings. It's only when they get to the stage that they release dvd sets and best of series that it goes beyong "reward" and becomes known as a process called "milking it".

    12. Re:Legality Issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...losing money they would have gotten..."

      Do you know how stupid that sounds? How can you lose something that you don't have and don't know if you'll ever get?

  33. Uh huh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful



    Slashdot (to MPAA): You fucking fascists. We hate you.
    MPAA: But look at these shiny colors!
    Slashdot: Oooh! How much?

    1. Re:Uh huh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This has to be one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time... :-)

    2. Re:Uh huh. by HydroCarbon10 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      and then there's the ever popular:

      Slashdot (to Microsoft): We hate you, go away!
      Microsoft: But we've got DOA3 with realistic bouncing women
      *slashdot hands over it's collective soul

      Go ahead, mod this down. You know, deep down, that you are spineless and have sold out your beliefs for entertainment.

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    3. Re:Uh huh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMFG, this is too true...

    4. Re:Uh huh. by Colin+Bayer · · Score: 1

      You know, deep down, that you are spineless and have sold out your beliefs for entertainment.

      Nah, I sold mine for $10, a box of Tic-Tacs, and a bumper sticker. No entertainment value there at all... :)

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    5. Re:Uh huh. by bitrott · · Score: 1

      like you're not a bloody hypocrite yourself. You mean to tell me you're fasting from all corporate sponsored entertainement until such a time as "The Man stops his evil ways"? I'm SO glad I don't have /.'ers hang-ups. Convictions or not, you're all coming across like a great lot of quakers. You'll get bored of milking cows and playing shareware soon enough.

  34. Why so much? by Logic+Bomb · · Score: 2

    DVDs of the 2nd season of Sex In The City (from HBO), 18 episodes, is $37.48 at Amazon.com (and fits on 3 DVDs). Sorry, but 26 episodes should under no circumstances cost this much. I would love to own some of the later seasons, but $100 is ridiculous. Making the licensee even more greedy is the fact that HBO is selling at that price without any additional income coming in on the show's balance sheets from syndication rights. Paramount, on the other hand... Sigh.

    1. Re:Why so much? by Logic+Bomb · · Score: 2

      Ok, comment withdrawn. I thought Sex In The City was an hour show. It's not. I still think they could knock $25-30 off the price by not putting it in "collector" packaging, but it's not as much of a rip-off as I thought. :-)

    2. Re:Why so much? by wadetemp · · Score: 1

      Do note, on the Star Trek website it says "less than $100." Of course, that means $99.99, but that is less than $100.

  35. *$700* for the entire run? by TheOnlyCoolTim · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It would probably be cheaper to put together a cheap computer and a month of broadband internet to download them all in divx...

    Tim

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    1. Re:*$700* for the entire run? by wo1verin3 · · Score: 1

      I paid about $200 cdn for the entire movie set, this shouldn't be much more expensive.

    2. Re:*$700* for the entire run? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 7 series use up aprx. 55GB in DivX format - I was about to download all, and guess what, my disk crashed (dead), and I lost 45GB worth of movies (ST:TNG only partially downloaded); now I wait for the replace of the disk and then leech again the eposides off the net . . . and some episodes are poorly encoded unfortunately.

    3. Re:*$700* for the entire run? by Treeluvinhippy · · Score: 1

      i love the subtitled ones. What lanquage is that anyways

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  36. Can't they count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why can't they manage to get the shows in order on the DVD's?

    Disc 1: Encounter at Farpoint Parts 1 & 2 (episodes 101, 102), The Naked Now (103), Code of Honor (104)

    Disc 2: The Last Outpost (107), Where No One Has Gone Before (106), Lonely Among Us (108), Justice (109)

    Disc 3: The Battle (110), Hide and Q (111), Haven (105), The Big Goodbye (113)

    Disc 4: DataLore (114), Angel One (115), 11001001 (116), Too Short a Season (112)

    Disc 5: When the Bough Breaks (118), Home Soil (117), Coming of Age (119), Heart of Glory (120)

    Disc 6: The Arsenal of Freedom (121), Symbiosis (123), Skin of Evil (122), We'll Always Have Paris (124)

    Disc 7: Conspiracy (125), The Neutral Zone (126), Special Features

    1. Re:Can't they count? by kaden · · Score: 1

      Maybe episode length required them to shuffle it around so they'd fit on seven discs?
      It's not like there was much continuity in TNG anyway, especially on an episode-to-episode level.

    2. Re:Can't they count? by glwtta · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, syndicated shows are often not show in order (various issues with production schedules and the individual stations broadcasting them) and that order is often corrected when they come out on video.

      I certainly don't know if that's the case here, but it's not unheard of.

      What I am wondering is why they only put 4 episodes per disc - minus the commercials an episode is what, 40 minutes or so? They gotta be able to fit more on a DVD, or did they leave the commercial in? ;)

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    3. Re:Can't they count? by SirNarfsALot · · Score: 2, Informative

      The order the shows are listed in is the order in which they originally aired. The numbers attached to each refer to the order in which they were filmed. For example, Symbiosis (123) was filmed after Skin of Evil (122) and Denise Crosby appears in both, despite Yar's death in Skin of Evil. If the shows were in order of production there would be many more continuity problems to whine about. The first season is generally the worst about this sort of thing; later seasons were filmed more or less in order.

    4. Re:Can't they count? by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 4, Informative
      A dual layer DVD can (according to DVD Demystified) hold over 4 hours of high quality video-- each episode was 45 minutes (commercial free). 240 minutes / 45 minutes = 5.333. They could have fit 5 episodes per disc, with room to spare for the teaser commercials as a per-disc extra. And actually, the author says "over 4 hours" but not by how much.. if it was 4.5 hours, they could have fit 6 episodes possibly per disc. =)

      The only problem is that dual layer discs have that 'layer transition' effect on certain older or low-cost DVD players (the images freezes for a split second while it switches layers).

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    5. Re:Can't they count? by F.Prefect · · Score: 1

      Of course they can count. However, as is common with collections of this type, they are presenting the episodes in the order in which they originally aired. See this chart for a table of the original air dates.

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      --Ford Prefect
    6. Re:Can't they count? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      How much video you can stash on the disc also depends on the resolution and the quality of the compression.

      Sure, they could've put more on each disc, but you'd likely have noticed the difference. In fact, if you use the maximum allowed bitrate (10.08Mbps), you can only hold about 107 minutes.

      These facts all come from your DVD Demystified site with the help of my friend Math.

    7. Re:Can't they count? by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 2

      Uh, the BOOK (which is what I was referencing) says "four hours of high quality video". He was, in that context, discussing high-quality DVD-quality video (the 720x480 variety at a good bitrate). Four hours, with my friend Math, is very reasonable and still uses a decent bitrate (only if you're using CBR, not VBR, would you only be able to fit 107 minutes of content at 10.08 Mbps). VBR takes into account the large amount of static content that can sometimes appear in video, and reduces the bitrate to conserve space.

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    8. Re:Can't they count? by iainl · · Score: 1

      Frankly I've never seen a disc with "four hours of high quality video". I'd alledge that your book is wrong, or at least outdated. What I thought was 3.5 hours of quality video when Das Boot came out three years ago now looks overcompressed, and a more accurate comparison would be the way that it was felt necessary to insert an intermission and disc change into the 183 minute Pearl Harbor in order to maintain the best possible picture and sound quality. Mpeg2 picture encoding is a nebulous art, and generalisations like the above are very difficult however. I would point out though, that Fox have only four episodes per disc on their X-Files episodes, and even some of them could do with some more bits.

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    9. Re:Can't they count? by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 3, Informative

      Shrug, the guy only wrote the DVD-FAQ, and the books been copyrighted for 2001. His FAQ is updated regularly, and has in fact been updated in the past week or so. I direct you to these FAQ entries, and you can decide from there if I'm right or wrong (I really could care less either way, I'm happy ST:TNG is making it out on DVD, be it 3 episodes per disc, 4, or 5)--

      http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#1.21 - [1.21] Why do some discs require side flipping? Can't DVDs hold four hours per side?

      You might also find this question educational--

      http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html#3.3 - [3.3] What are the sizes and capacities of DVD?

      Yes, there are situations where this is false, after all, it IS VARIABLE BIT RATE encoding; but generally speaking, four hours of high quality video is possible on a single side dual layer DVD. If The X-Files has poor quality, I'd lay this at the feet of poor encoding practices (or simply someone lazy at Fox). As you said, it's definately not something that's easy (encoding MPEG2 properly) but it has been done. Plus, and I've noticed this on a number of DVD titles (movies and TV shows), for whatever reason, MPEG2 ruins dark sequences (which I imagine The X-Files has a lot of-- I stopped watching after the sixth season or so). This might be the nature of the beast, or it might be lazy encoders. =) I'm not going to pretend to know.

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    10. Re:Can't they count? by yawnmoth · · Score: 1

      that's a good point! and even if they're in the production order, tasha yar dies in skin of evil, yet is in the neutral zone..

    11. Re:Can't they count? by iainl · · Score: 1

      I stand corrected - thats one quality source. I do know that its perfectly possible that those bitrates can look good (the classic example being the rather wonderful single layer transfer of The Fifth Element), but as you say with dark sequences guessing whats going to need large amounts of bitrate is very difficult. I saw a bit of the testing for encoding the X-Files movie when I was at Fox one time, and I can certainly agree that some scenes just eat bandwidth for breakfast in order to get them looking good.

      Also, one man's quite good is another's unacceptably poor - just look at all the posts in this (or any other /. DVD discussion) thread where people are happy with either Off-Air VHS or DiVX;-) encodings.

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    12. Re:Can't they count? by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 1
      Also, one man's quite good is another's unacceptably poor - just look at all the posts in this (or any other /. DVD discussion) thread where people are happy with either Off-Air VHS or DiVX;-) encodings.

      Agreed on this point entirely-- I think the FAQ author is a good judge of MPEG2 compression quality though, but as you said, this is an objective issue with some people.

      Myself, I'm not pleased with DiVX;-) or Off-air VHS recording quality-- in the former case, the image simply loses too much quality and the frame size is too small (usually).. (although there's a question in the DVD-FAQ about MPEG4 and how it affects DVD video-- he notes that it's intended for streaming video (as well as some other uses), but that at the bitrates MPEG2 uses MPEG4 can perform better).. as for VHS, blech... I've pretty much sworn off recording TV, and haven't bought a movie on VHS since I bought my first DVD player (two years ago). If there's something on TV worth re-watching or showing to someone else, I'll download it off of Gnutella and burn it to an (S)VCD. (Not as good quality as NTSC broadcast, but sharper IMHO than VHS). Just some afterthoughts on the subject. =)

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  37. Cliffhangers. by bytor4232 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a great concept, if for nothing else but the marketing involved. At the end of every season after the second one, there was a season finale cliffhanger. You will get to the last DVD in the series and go, "well dang, I gotta have the next season!" Then you run out and pop down another C-note!

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  38. Bab5 coming? by bishnu · · Score: 1

    Isn't Babylon 5 coming out? I remember reading a few weeks back that the first set would include all of the first season plus the "In The Beginning" TV-movie...was I high?

    1. Re:Bab5 coming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhh, yes and yes.

    2. Re:Bab5 coming? by Leeto2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Step 1. www.warnerbros.com
      Step 2. Do a search for Babylon 5 under DVD heading.
      Step 3. Fork over dough for intro movie. Cost = 14 + 4 Shipping. $18.00 total.
      Step 4. Begin saving dough to buy Seasons if / when they come out.
      L2

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      "That's no moon"... Obi-Wan Kenobi
    3. Re:Bab5 coming? by Sivar · · Score: 1

      Amen, brother!
      Seriously, though. Babylon 5 DVDs are takingentirely too long to be released. You can already get the excellent soundtracks, but those just aren't the same.

      Soundtracks have no plots.

      I have a friend that purchased a Super-VHS VCR for the sole purpose of recording B5. If people are willing to do that, I am sure many more would happily fork out $100/season for B5 DVDs.

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    4. Re:Bab5 coming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would! I would!!! I missed season 5, didn't have cable at the time. :(

    5. Re:Bab5 coming? by Kheldarstl · · Score: 1

      I bought the first B-5 DVD back before Christmas, which contained "In The Begining" and "The Gathering", Picked up the 2nd DVD Saturday Jan. 12, 2002 at Borders in St. Louis MO it contains, "Midnight on the Firing Line" and "Soul Hunter" pamphlet inside says new episodes to follow in march of 2002.

      Hope this Helps

      Keith

  39. So the upshot is... by glwtta · · Score: 2

    that every episode will be divxified and all over gnutella (and the like) within days after each season's release, right?

    Hey, I am all for supporting stuff I like, but close to $1K (how many seasons were there, anyway?) is a bit much to rewatch TNG again... Now, DS9 I'll pay for, if/when they put that out on DVD.

    Incidentally, this would be perfect for digital distribution though - I doubt many people will buy even several seasons at this price, and $100 is probably as low as they can get, all things considered (most shows are about $160-$180/season if I recall correctly; but that's all from VHS days - 7 DVDs gotta be less expensive than 12 tapes), but I am sure a lot more people would pay, let's say, $30ish per season to download (that's download, not stream) high quality mpegs (let's say VCD compliant, to make that road to the DVD player from the PC that much easier) of one season, from a reasonably fast server. Hell, I would, and I am willing to wager that in fact they'd end up making a lot more money off of it that way.

    If only there was a way to sort out this digital distribution/rights management debacle without making it feel like the consumer is taking it up the ass.

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    1. Re:So the upshot is... by Sivax256 · · Score: 1
    2. Re:So the upshot is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that every episode will be divxified and all over gnutella (and the like) within days after each season's release, right?

      And people wonder why these companies are going after these file sharing services.

      Hey, I am all for supporting stuff I like, but close to $1K (how many seasons were there, anyway?) is a bit much to rewatch TNG again...

      Then don't buy it. If you're "all for" supporting stuff that you enjoy, but feel the price is a bit too much to pay for TNG, don't pay it. But that damn sure doesn't give you the right to STEAL it.

      ...or is this one of those "I don't like it enough to buy it" deals?

      Fucking theft justifiers. You make me sick.

    3. Re:So the upshot is... by glwtta · · Score: 2

      ...or is this one of those "I don't like it enough to buy it" deals?

      Yes, most definitely it is. I would never, ever (ever) spend $700 to watch TNG again (btw, they got theirs by cramming the commercials in there the first time I watched it), but if there's another way to do it - win it in a giveaway or maybe a friend has it, or maybe it's all over the net - then yeah I'll do it. And since the first option is unlikely and I don't have any friends, then the last one it is.

      Fucking theft justifiers. You make me sick.

      I wasn't justifying jack, if you'd care to pay attention - if it's theft, fine (though in my case they don't loose anything by it, but I won't really say that since you might see it as an excuse or something). A nice bonus is that I think television is a scourge on society and hate the guts of most companies behind it, but that's probably besides the point.

      In any case, like I said during that rant in my original post - until this whole digital media debacle (from now on referred to as the DMD) is sorted out to everyone's reasonable satisfaction (which is possible, but highly unlikely) it's a free for all out there - they (media "copyright holders") fuck us with horizontal, and soon, vertical monopolies and exorbitant prices, we fuck back by stealing their shit. So fuck 'em. And I am sure as hell not justifying anything I do or not do, to you - so, fuck you too!

      (was that expressive enough of my feelings on the subject?)

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  40. finally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    finally, high quality divx rips here we come...

  41. Idea by KILNA · · Score: 1

    You know, when I have the time and resources (yeah, right) I think bringing the feel of channel surfing to a video collection would be a great idea! You just dump all your DVDs to hard disc, and have a button on the remote that just randomly pulls up the middle of one of the files you have on the drive. If you see something "on" that you like, you just hit a button to go back to the beginning of the file.

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    1. Re:Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought this was cool. Just thought I'd say so.

    2. Re:Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, man, you need to get a life SO bad!

    3. Re:Idea by KILNA · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I may want to watch the boob tube and have it serve up content I may actually want to watch (i.e., from my collection), but maybe not something I want to bother to choose specifically (how often do you really set out to watch something like first season TNG, but one cannot help entranced by it when it comes on, if only for the mockery factor). Its just plain un-American to not enjoy flipping channels.

      Regarding not having a life, think about how much less of a life I have than you, seeing as you're going around pointing fingers at all the people who supposedly don't have a life. On a slashdot article. Regarding Star Trek. Anonymously.

      Yeah, I may be a geek, but at least I realize it. :)

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    4. Re:Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have cable now for channel flipping. (DirecTV sucks for surfing.)

      After I wrote that you need a life, I remembered I had a similar idea for digital pr0n watching.

  42. No widescreen? by compupc1 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I am dissapointed to find out that these DVDs are in full frame only. While today full frame is more popular, what about in a couple years? If a program was shot in widescreen, it needs to be presented in widescreen, at least as an option on DVDs. Also, I don't like the face that the episodes are out of order and the fact that the box height doesn't match that of a normal DVD case. Other than than, they look great, but at $100/season, I for sure expect widescreen and standardized cases/episode ordering.

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    1. Re:No widescreen? by hogsback · · Score: 2, Informative

      According the this it was filmed full-frame.

    2. Re:No widescreen? by Aelgifa · · Score: 1

      I do not believe ST:TNG was shot in Widescreen. I am also a fan of Widescreen myself, better composition and whatnot. A lot of people think that watching Widesceen means they are missing the top and the bottom of the picture when actually watching Full frame means they are missing half the picture a little on each side. And some of the pan and scan movements aren't very seamless at all. Irritates the hell out of me actually. And really if you have a 30" TV or Bigger Widescreen isn't bad. But I wouldn't expect a Television show I watched in Full Frame to be released in Widescreen. About the only Widescreen TV show I can think of is B5. Are there many others?

    3. Re:No widescreen? by instinctdesign · · Score: 1

      TNG was not shot in widescreen, thats a recent trend partly due to the required switch over to HDTV (2006 is it?) and also because the producers feel it gives a more 'cinematic' feel to it.

      More and more TV series are being shot in a widescreen aspect ratio. A bunch of the more recent X-Files are, and I think a few of the other more popular prime-time shows (ER... I think, among others). Perhaps the most ardent supporters of widescreen ratios on TV can be found on PBS, a great deal of the new episodes of Nova, Frontline, and The American Experience are in widescreen as well as a good deal of their specials.

      I believe that NPR will also be switching to widescreen in the coming months as well. ;)

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    4. Re:No widescreen? by AnalogBoy · · Score: 2
      Enterprise is presented in Widescreen.

      • UPN is showing Enterprise in the 16 x 9 ratio in anticipation of the advent of High Definition television. This format, with more picture and better clarity, will eventually replace TV viewing as it exists now in the more limiting 4 x 3 aspect ratio.
        -- from FAQ at www.startrek.com
    5. Re:No widescreen? by Macgruder · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The order on the CD's match the order the episodes were written, not produced.

      In other words, this is the sequence the writers thought they should be.

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    6. Re:No widescreen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then why are the TOS DVDs advertised as being widescreen? So they filmed in widescreen, went to full screen, then sometime partway through TNG or DS9 or VOY they went back to widescreen. Hmmm...

    7. Re:No widescreen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really doubt the original series was filmed in widescreen. Perhaps they letterboxed it to look cool (or to block out mics, etc that were outside of the TV Safe box but still in the frame).

    8. Re:No widescreen? by Markus+Landgren · · Score: 1

      The TOS discs are not widescreen. I don't know about what they are advertised as being, but I bought them and watched them and all of them were full frame.

    9. Re:No widescreen? by Lacutis · · Score: 1

      That can't possibly be true.

      Otherwise there would be HUGE continuity problems.

      The most notable being Tasha Yar dying, then being there the next episode?

      It has to be production order.

  43. Re:Yea, right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    my god, somebody else has seen Two Moon Junction. I cannot believe that you would actually have paid money from it. It is quite possibly the most staggeringly aweful film ever made.

  44. Re:Yea, right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Read the parent again. He/she tried to watch it but was thwarted. Another tragedy narrowly averted.

  45. Re:Yea, right. by renehollan · · Score: 1

    Er, you've never seen Plan Nine from Outer Space, have you?

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  46. Re:Its definitely for stupid people by doooras · · Score: 0

    must be one of the most successful "2nd rate fantasy" shows ever made.

  47. You forgot one: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't forget The Young Ones

    1. Re:You forgot one: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, you just had to remind me of that show didn't you? I'll be watching PBS for weeks now, hoping for a miracle.

  48. Rejection is one thing... by .havoc · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    but rejection by a fool is cruel...

    Hey, I keep wondering my slashcode doesn't tell us who the moderator is that rejects our stories...

    1. Re:Rejection is one thing... by Sethb · · Score: 2

      That would be handy, but then you'd be twice as pissed when the same moderator who disses your story on Thursday posts the story two days later. At least I can understand two people having different opinions of whether or not a story is news, but when it's the same person, it just seems so arbitrary...

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      When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout. --Robert A. Heinlein
    2. Re:Rejection is one thing... by .havoc · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      What's really funny is that you got a score of 2 and I got dinged for "off topic." and lost a karma point.

      Oh, the power of moderators.

  49. Barbie dolls are successful too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because it's successful and popular is nothing
    to brag about, nor does it imply quality.
    Barbie Dolls, Brittany Spears, and microsoft
    are examples to consider.

  50. Where's the postscript TNG Episode Guide? by Deagol · · Score: 2
    Funny this topic should come up. After making the TNN Star Trek think a regular habit, I hunted down an old resource: http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/st-tng

    This episode guide has been a great thing, at least while I'm online.

    But I can't find the old Vidiot Postscript version that killed so many trees while I was in college. I mean, printing that puppy up on a nice color laser would be a great companion to this DVD set!

  51. Re:Yea, right. by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

    One of my holy grails was to have _Plan Nine_ MST3K'ed. Sometimes life is unfair....

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  52. star trek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sucks.

    1. Re:star trek by Telepathetic+Man · · Score: 1

      Someone's not a nerd.

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  53. What's up with TNN? by almightyjustin · · Score: 1
    Is it just me, or does TNN not have any programming except TNG? Every time I turn around, they're showing yet another episode, and now they're running these bizarrely composited (but funny) commercials for "Bonus Treks".

    I've started referring to them as The Next-generation Network. ;)

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    1. Re:What's up with TNN? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, I've been referring to them as "The Nipple Network". Being that two of the top three shows on the Network are "Babewatch" and WWF.

  54. Re:JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll second that.

  55. Outtakes / Bloopers? by instinctdesign · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't see them on the feature list, dang... that would have made this one really worth having. Perhaps we might get lucky and see some on the upcoming sets.

    I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I kinda remember reading that there are a host of licensing issues surrounding outtakes and bloopers hence the lack of any released tapes. I have a short mpeg of a few from Voyager, DS9, and TNG and they are great! You can find them on Kazaa (gotta love spyware...) since I doubt my host would be too impressed if I were to host them off my site.

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    forma3
    1. Re:Outtakes / Bloopers? by bnavarro · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't know about TNG, but apparantly with each season of Voyager's bloopers, these were compiled onto a tape, played at the season wrap party, and then destroyed. They decided that the bloopers would be reserved for the cast & crew's (one time) enjoyment only.

      A shame too. I read an interview with Jeri Ryan (7 of 9) once, and she gave an anecdote of an amusing blooper where Garret Wang (Ensign Kim) was supposed to grab her elbow to get her attention. She miscued and turned to face him too early, and Garret wound up accidentally grabbing her boob! Apparantly there were many "That's not an elbow" jokes on the set from that point on...

  56. Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder if they'll return my calls on this one?
    *grin*

    1. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by sid_vicious · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hmmmm.. here's an idea...

      Rent the DVD and while watching it, simultaneously record your *own* commentary track on your PC. MP3 it and sell it to geeks on your website for oh, I dunno, $7. Then we can just hit 'mute' and queue up the MP3 while watching the DVD.

      Heck, I'll pay $10 if you'll do an imitation of Marinia Sirtis. Make it $15 if you throw in a passable William "F'ing" Shatner.

      :-)

      --
      If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
    2. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't mean to be rude, and I do enjoy your posts around here (particularly on Star Trek-related subjects), but the "actor seeks work" joke is getting pretty old. This is what, like the fifth time?

      --
      Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
    3. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by CleverNickName · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You're right...I think it's the fourth time, and it's really played out...I just couldn't resist, this time...all things considered, and what not. :)

    4. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by Monkeyman334 · · Score: 2

      Heck, I'll pay $10 if you'll do an imitation of Marinia Sirtis. Make it $15 if you throw in a passable William "F'ing" Shatner.

      Wait, I think your job search ends here! I like this idea. I'd pay $20 if you do a good impression of my chemistry teacher. I'll give you $30 if you do .. my ex girlfriend. But I don't think you should do a flat rate thing. You could auction it off on your site. If someone offered to pay $21 for their chemistry teacher, I would do $21.50, maybe. Think about it.

    5. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by DoorFrame · · Score: 2

      in all fairness, this isn't the sad out-of-work-actor joke, this is an entirely new dvd-related commentary joke... not neccessarily related to being out of work.

      i'll give him credit, it was pretty funny.

    6. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by merlin_jim · · Score: 3

      That is where you are wrong my friend! The actor seeks work joke will never be old!!!

      Sorry, just had to pipe in real quick.

      --
      I am disrespectful to dirt! Can you see that I am serious?!
    7. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by daeley · · Score: 2

      Do we really want Wil -- heck, anybody -- to reprise the infamous spoken-word 'Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds'? :)

      --
      I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
    8. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by daeley · · Score: 2

      I don't know, Wil. Not after that Roxanne Dawson / Weakest Link incident. ;-)

      --
      I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
    9. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by wls · · Score: 1

      Actually, if you think about it, Wil's perspective on things might actually be the best commentary for the /. audience.

      He'd know first hand what would truly interest the geek within. I doubt the other actor's would be able to do so.

    10. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by sid_vicious · · Score: 1

      Do we really want Wil -- heck, anybody -- to reprise the infamous spoken-word 'Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds [tripod.com]'? :)

      *Shudder*...

      Ok, Wil will have to define some reasonable parameters for his performance.
      ;-P

      --
      If it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet.
    11. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by LordNimon · · Score: 1
      I guess you really need that job in order to afford your eBay purchases.

      Dude, what are you trying to do? Corner the market on yourself? Or maybe you're hoping to buy up all this stuff, so future generations won't know it ever existed?

      --
      And the men who hold high places must be the ones who start
      To mold a new reality... closer to the heart
    12. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by eples · · Score: 1

      Dude.
      What's he gonna do? Go to K-Mart and get it?
      Quit being a bully.
      You probably watch Babylon 5.
      Tell me you are an actor and I'll eat my words.
      I mean really - what were you thinking? You just woke up this morning and decided to be a TOTAL ASSHOLE?

      --
      I'm a 2000 man.
    13. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by yamla · · Score: 2

      This is _brilliant_! What a wonderful idea! Really, I'd pay money for this. Low production costs, low distribution costs (the MP3s would compress really well), low overhead. I like it a lot!

      --

      Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
    14. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by berck · · Score: 1

      But he's Wil.. Therefore it's okay, because it's cool whenever he posts. Because we're geeks, and he longs to be more of a geek. This makes him something of a weird creature, an actor who would like to be geek. We, as slashdot readers, should feel honored that someone with (presumably) a life, would be interested in sharing his thoughts with us.

      But then, before I rush to defend him, didn't anyone sit through his commentary during the TNN marathon? I mean, it was all fine and good the first 20 times. But I really don't want to hear any more about how it was hard being the only kid on the set, and how Wesley lacked the maturity of the adults, yadda yadda... Sorry, Wil, it really got pretty bad. Not as bad as that of Marina Sirtis, but pretty bad.

      So if someone buys me the DVD and Wil's on it, saying "Wesley didn't have the maturity of the adults..." I think I'll scream.

      Note, this is not the same old wesley bashing. Being a young kid myself when TNG was on the air, Wesley was my hero. I loved it whenever he showed up.

      Berck

    15. Re:Actor hopes to do DVD commentary track by CleverNickName · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dude, what are you trying to do? Corner the market on yourself? Or maybe you're hoping to buy up all this stuff, so future generations won't know it ever existed?


      Dude.

      How could I pass up the opportunity to own one of the worst movies ever made? It's like finding "Plan 9 from Outer Space" or the remakes of "Planet of the Apes" or "Psycho"...like a terrible car crash, I can't tear my eyes away...I just happen to be involved in this particular pile of stinking crap, and, believe it or not, I don't already own it...and I'm pretty sure that a DVD version is not on the way.

      ObTrek: Tonight on TNN, I got to hear Worf say my favorite Worfism of all time: "I am not a merry man!"

  57. TNN Sucks by connah47 · · Score: 1

    TNN is ridiculous. I agree with the observation that their image-squashing technology makes watching TNG so annoying. I went to their website (http://www.tnnonline.com/) today and on top of having a horrible site design, they have spelled Picard's name, in bold letters on the front page, as "PICCARD".

    Pardon my griping...

    1. Re:TNN Sucks by F1_Fan · · Score: 1

      I bitched about the "squashing" on TNN's feedback form. No reply, gee what a surprise.

      I mean, what do they think they're doing messing with the fine form of Marina Sirtis? She looks pregnant from some angles now...

    2. Re:TNN Sucks by Junior+Samples · · Score: 1

      I complained to TNN about the squashing and banners (that dissappear during commercials). Never got any response.

      I'm seriously thinking about complaining to TNG's advertisers about the squashing and annoying banners and threatening to boycott their product unless they pull their advertising or demand that TNN show the TNG episodes in their original format without the banners and icons.

  58. $50/season, ok... $100? Hell no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too damn much money.

  59. Re:Yea, right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't understand why linux geeks get so worked up over Denise Crosby. When she's naked, she looks like a little boy.

  60. Re:Its definitely for stupid people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >> --Memphis, TN

    Nuff said.

  61. The worst part of the new show by Pope+Slackman · · Score: 2

    Is the new theme song.

    Rock
    the
    fucking
    mullet.

    C-X C-S

  62. Boxed Sets Only? by lunadude · · Score: 1

    Gee, the boxed sets are nice (if I wanted the "entire series"), but what if I want a few choice epicodes? I trust there is a single disk option, like TOS DVDs.

    Anyone know?

    1. Re:Boxed Sets Only? by bnavarro · · Score: 1

      I read The Digital Bits regularly, and from the editor's comments (which I agree with), most collectors of TV shows on DVD apparantly prefer to collect entire season box sets, as opposed to one or two ep.'s per disc priced separately, or "best of" compilations. Apparantly, Paramount ran a poll on the ST web site a few months ago asking how they should handle TNG DVDs, and the overwhelming consensus was to go with season box sets.

      The biggest problem, IMO, with releasing one or two ep's at a time is that if the sales numbers don't crunch, additional ep's may be indefanately delayed, or cancelled. This happened with South Park (they released a bunch in order, then there was a loooong delay, and now they release out-of-order "best of" compilations, much to my dismay), and My So-Called Life (one disc with 2 or 3 eps was released, and when nobody bought it, the rest were quietly cancelled).

  63. Re:Its definitely for stupid people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you actually know any scientist? Hrm? I see you're from Memphis, TN. That's a fine city in a fine state. Perhaps you've confused a brewer with a scientist? Perhaps wrestling shows would be more to your liking? Sadly enough, noone's going to be making a show about fucking your cousin. However, I am sure that you see enough of that without turning on the "Boobtube". I'd offer you something to drink, but I don't buy Jim Bean, nor do I have anywhere you could spit your chewing tobaccer!

    BTW, AOL is the devil. Dell is an imp. You should "log off" and go milk your cows.

    -1234

  64. Not true by Ybrog · · Score: 1
    While piracy does take away $$$ from the hard working movie companies, it's not as bad as they'd lead you to believe. The vast majority of people who steal music/movies/tv shows online were probably never intending to buy that item anyhow.

    Seriously, you all have Britney Spears and Michael Jackson songs/videos on your computers you would NEVER actually buy, right? Besides, I still believe the biggest reason to buy in stores is better quality. Sure, some things are close, but only true fans would buy the dvds to begin with.

    In the future piracy of movies will probably be a big deal, but I have trouble feeling sorry for studios willing to shell out $20 million to Julia Roberts so we can go watch a steaming pile of dogshit (like that classic My Best Friend's Wedding).

    --

    bleh

  65. Re:Its definitely for stupid people by Macgruder · · Score: 1

    Ever hear of JPL? CalTech? I know PHD's their that live for that show.

    Stephen Hawking offered to do his guest shot because he was such a fan.

    --
    I'm not crazy,I'm actively irresponsible.
  66. Re:Months TNG DVDs will be released (OT) by etceteral · · Score: 2

    Season 5 *was* definitely one of the best seasons, (though I think you missed Darmok on that list :) )...

    .. But my all-time favorite episode had to have been "Frame of Mind." (When Riker is convinced he's going insane.) I loved the surreal ones - and that one definitely takes the cake for that label!

    --

    ------------
    "...and Maddest of all, to see Life as it Is, and not as it Should Be."

  67. Sweeeet by whereiswaldo · · Score: 1

    Man, I've been waiting a loooong time for this to happen. Thought it never would. What I'll really be eager to get is the first Borg episode, though! Anyone remember what season that was?
    Also, I would love to get the Voyager (?) one with the Borg homebase. That was like a full movie for cryin' out loud! Damn cool.
    Wonder if there are plans to release Seinfeld season episodes on DVD? That would also be great. (though admittedly anti-climactic after this event, hehe)

    On another note - I guess these DVDs are commercial-free, too! What a bonus.

    1. Re:Sweeeet by FrayLo · · Score: 1

      I believe the first episode featuring the Borg is "Q Who?", [or maybe it was some other Q episode]...where he throws the ship a couple hundred (million?) light years away where he shows them 'an enemy they're not ready to face', or something to that effect. I think that was in season 2. Then they come back in The Best of Both Worlds, at the end of Season 3, if I remember correctly.

  68. Re:Legality Issues-What big pipes you have. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Notice also that this issue dovetails nicely with the "overfull pipe" syndrome, that "/" posted a day or two ago. I bet if people actually started paying for the bandwith consumed. File sharing and subsequently the piracy issue would diminish greatly. Same with USENET.

  69. I thought I was the only one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I totally agree about 'The Inner Light'. For me it was the most poignant episode. The idea of a doomed society sending out a Voyager type probe with the life experience of one of its members somehow deeply moved me. I still remember it quite well, although it's been years.

  70. Re:signature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The best way to accelerate a windows box is at 9.8 meters per second square.

    Yeah, that should be per second squared.
  71. Re:Its definitely for stupid people by malkman · · Score: 1

    Notice he comes from TN, original creators of TNN.
    aka: the WORST.channel.ever.

    --

    Robort knows all.
  72. Mod parent up! by bigdreamer · · Score: 1

    Wil Wheaton says the 4th season is best! Everyone get it!

    What can I say, I'm infatuated. :-)

  73. This will free up gigs of hard drive space by Sean+Clifford · · Score: 1

    Yay - now I can free up gigs and gigs of hard drive space! Though I've grabbed a lot of episodes from Morpheus, I don't mind paying the $4 an episode for the whole collection. It's about time they've been released.

    Like a few other posters have mentioned, I don't see plucking TV episodes from P2P networks to be much different from having a friend record them for me. The Tick (animated) and a few other shows just aren't otherwise available in my area. I suppose that's the same logic that Replay is using with their episode sharing technology. It'll be interesting to see how this works out in court.

  74. B5 is Shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Probably because REAL(TM) Trekkies know that B5 is complete and total shit and it shouldn't even be mentioned in a Trek story.

  75. Why $100? by BTWR · · Score: 0

    With 22 seasons, this will be, like someone said, around $4.50 an episode. But still... Simpsons DVD 1 was 13 episodes for $30 ($20 many places on the internet). My question is... why charge $100 when DVD media costs them what... pennies? They'd still get every TNG geek to lay down $350 for the series if they charged "only" $50. Just seems unfair to me...

    1. Re:Why $100? by Graymalkin · · Score: 2

      Why charge 50$ a season when you can charge 100$ for a season by your logic. Releasing DVD collections of highly sought after syndicated shows makes you lose money. How many people are going to watch FX every day (theoretically making FX money being subjected to their advertisements) to see their favourite X-Files episode when they can go out and buy it on DVD. The theoretical shrinking of the syndication market by releasing DVD or VHS copies of an entire season needs to be made up for in the eyes of the executives. It is unfair but that is why they do it.

      --
      I'm a loner Dottie, a Rebel.
  76. Trek is Human Waste by-products by First_In_Hell · · Score: 0

    I still do not understand what the fascination is with this gay bullshit. I would rather take 19 violent shits in a row than have to see any TNG episodes. For some reason these episodes are the bane of all late night programming. I think Trek has whored itself out to every low-end network in existence to serve as filler so they can have something to show that constitutes as "name" programming. These people should just show infomercials . . . networks get paid for it, and it is 100 times more entertaining than watching Worf have anal sex with Captian Picard. I would rather watch an informertial with that hot blond chick from Whos the Boss talking about disfiguring acne than DS9, wouldn't you? Star Trek has become a sick joke, a parody of itself. It should be put out of its misery. William Shatnet can kiss my anus. goatse.cx rules!

  77. Ahh... Finally by Wheaty18 · · Score: 1

    I'll definately be purchasing some (if not all) of the season collections. I'm also looking forward to the DS9 and Voyager collections if/when they ever come out...

  78. Widescreen TV shows by sph · · Score: 2, Interesting

    About the only Widescreen TV show I can think of is B5. Are there many others?

    Yes there are, though B5 was basically the first one, the other pioneer being Lois & Clark. Some other shows that I know of include ER (from season 6, I think), NYPD Blue (from season 8), Sopranos, Buffy (from season 4), Angel... Neither TNG, DS9 nor Voyager were widescreen, Enterprise is the first one in Star Trek franchise. Come to think of it, most of recent television shows with budget have been moving to widescreen, though television broadcast versions may still be pan&scan. Widescreen is the future way, and now there no point making shows that will have black bars on left and right in 5-10 years.

    Actually, most of European TV productions, even low-budget ones, have been widescreen for years already.

    And back to B5... It's a rather complicated example when it comes to widescreen. While live action was filmed widescreen with Super35 process, almost all CGI and composite shots were done in 4:3 (except for the last few episodes). Therefore all the CGI and composite shots must be cropped from top and/or bottom for widescreen version. Also there will be definite resolution loss when making anamorphic widescreen masters, because the original rendering was made for NTSC resolution. There is a long analysis of all the problems involved here.

    1. Re:Widescreen TV shows by compupc1 · · Score: 1

      I heard that VOY began shooting in Widescreen in the third season but it was just always aired in full screen.

      --
      -James
  79. good time for geekdom by sunhou · · Score: 1

    As someone else mentioned, the first season of Buffy is also coming out on DVD. Also, a 20th anniversary edition of Tron is coming out, apparently with lots of extras. Dunno how that'll look after all these years; it's been quite a while since I saw it.

    But I'm really waiting for the second season of Stargate on DVD. I got the first season, and it was very good, much better than the rough first season many shows have before they hit their stride. If you watched Stargate the movie and thought it was boring (I did), I recommend giving the series a chance. It's one of my favorite series now. You may find it a little jarring at first seeing Richard Dean Anderson ("McGuyver") running around with big guns though. :-)

  80. Re:Yea, right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just like some of you like to view/fondle enormous breasts, some of us prefer smaller breasts.

  81. Because.... by bnavarro · · Score: 1

    Well, for regular (non-premium) TV, once you have bought the TV series on VHS or DVD, you will never watch it again in reruns/syndication, and that's one less eyeball watching the commercials, so the studios figure that they can at least partially make up for it by charging you an arm and a leg to watch the show commercial free whenever and wherever.

    As for premium channels like HBO, well, A) HBO has been good about enhancing the DVDs (commentaries, anamorphic widescreen, Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound) and has to recoup the additional production costs, and B) why buck the trend? :-)

  82. [OT] Lord of the Rings by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 2

    I HOPE when they do this movie that they AVOID what was done with Pearl Harbor-- splitting the movie across two discs. That was inexcusable in my mind, and could have been avoided (there's what, three audio tracks for Pearl Harbor? DROP one or two of them, and include only the Dolby Digital 5.1 and the Dolby Stereo 2.0 (release a seperate DTS DVD, if need be)). Blech, icky.

    --
    All I know about Bush is I had a good job when Clinton was president.
    1. Re:[OT] Lord of the Rings by Johnny+O · · Score: 1

      You've got to be kidding. I was watching this DVD movie with a friend of mine with my jaw dropped thru the entire 2 discs. I was stunned at the picture quality. I finally said to my friend this is what SHOULD have replaced Laserdisc. This picture had STUNNING clarity thru the entire film, not just high action parts, the entire film! Not some of that artifact crap I still get on some DVD's. What they SHOULD have done was to put the rest of the film on the OTHER side of the disc, so that people with DVD players that play BOTH sides of the disc could benefit like the old Laserdisc players. (Dual side DVD players are appearing now.)

    2. Re:[OT] Lord of the Rings by DarkEdgeX · · Score: 2

      Shrug, the problem isn't with their video encoding method, the problem is with the numerous audio tracks packed along-- had they left only the bare minimum in audio tracks (and subsequently offered a seperate DTS release) the whole damn thing would have likely fit. Hell, here's what I got from DVD Empire for an audio track listing--

      Audio:
      ENGLISH: Dolby Digital 5.1 [CC]
      ENGLISH: DTS 5.1 [CC]
      FRENCH: Dolby Digital 5.1

      So, they included the DTS version of the audio and the FRENCH version of the DD 5.1 audio.. both of which could have easily been dropped in favor of 1) a seperate DTS release (other DVDs do this, why not this one?) and 2) a seperate French release for Canadians that might be buying it.

      I haven't done the math, but I'm willing to guess that with those dropped, the other discs content might have fitted (that and a less liberal use of bitrate). Dual sided would have made more sense, I agree, but when you can fit 4 hours of high quality video on a single-sided dual layer DVD, it makes no sense to span sides OR discs...

      --
      All I know about Bush is I had a good job when Clinton was president.
  83. $100 for 7 DVD - for rerun TV show? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man, you folks have a lot of money spending on old TV shows. In a year, you can get that 7 DVD for half the price - or in 10 years, those will be in a late night ads - all available for $39.95.

  84. yeah.... by TheQuantumShift · · Score: 1

    I like to watch all my sci-fi on THE FUCKING NASHVILLE NETWORK!!! What's their other show? Wrestling? Christ, last time I checked, Next gen., ds-9, and voyager were all in syndication on my local fox and UHF stations. I say as long as you pay for cable, there should be absolutely NO ADVERTISING! That's why it's on the free stuff. But shelling out 30-50 bucks a month for 3-5 channels actually worth watching, that all have about three shows per channell that they repeat over and over and over? Next time you see a commercial on TNN, make sure to remind yourself that you're paying for the privilege of being marketed to.

    --

    Shift happens. Fire it up.
  85. Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    testing.

  86. I know by Treeluvinhippy · · Score: 1

    this is off topic, but I had for years a tape of the original broadcast of Encounter at Farpoint.
    Yeah I know it sucked, however it was a nice addition for my sci-fi collection. The VHS was made in EP mode and it was the complete 2-hour movie with original commercials. The picture quality degraded of course being made in 1987, but wasn't watched often and I stretched the tape once in a while. It held up fairly well for a long time.

    I being the dumb fuckhead that I am, lent this prized novelty to my friend. I 'm sure you know how this is going to end. Just let me tell you what I got back. His little sister used my tape for....

    Maverick staring Mel Gibson and Jodi Foster.

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    >
  87. The borg's first apperance is by Treeluvinhippy · · Score: 1

    Q-Who
    Episode 42
    Airdate 5-8-89
    Stardate 42761.3
    Written by Maurice Hurley
    Directed by Rob Bowman

    --
    >
  88. Futurama coming to the UK on DVD shortly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    In 2 weeks' time (28th Jan), Futurama Season 1 is released in a 3-DVD box set in the UK.

    However, at that price (32 quid !), I'll wait for it to get a US release and buy it from the same site (Simpsons Season 1 was half the price in the US compared to the UK).

    Feel free to moderate me up :-)

  89. To be or not to be... by GrouchoMarx · · Score: 2

    Coolness! I've been waiting for this for a long time, and it even looks like they're doing it right by not putting a mere 2 episodes on a disk. (It's still a bit pricy, but not as extortionary as it could have been.)

    Oh, wait, I don't buy DVDs on principle. Damn you moral code!!!

    --

    --GrouchoMarx
    Card-carrying member of the EFF, FSF, and ACLU. Are you?

  90. impersonation by DarkHelmet · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I'd pay 20 to hear you dub over the DVD's with your own special impersonation of Picard.

    Still, my personal favorite Picard impersonation still goes to Jon St. John (The guy behind Duke Nukem) found here

    --
    /^[A-Z0-9._%+-]+@[A-Z0-9.-]+\.[A-Z]{2,4}$/i
  91. Never mind TNG... by CProgrammer98 · · Score: 1
    I Want "Enterprise".

    Disk 1, Episode 1 - special features, Decontamination Gel - Uncut....

    Now THAT would get my $$$

    --
    And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every one by his neighbour Isaiah 3:5
  92. Pear? by ColGraff · · Score: 2

    I thought avacado! Am I alone in this, or is "pear" the consensus?

    Seriously though, why does TNN do the banner-squishing thing? Why can't they just display their logo in the lower right corner, like everybody else?

    More to the point, why do I get the disturbing feeling they're tarketing their trek airings at the - erm - less educated market? I watch star trek: tng, and I see ads for Baywatch, monster trucks, and conspiracy "news" shows. Is the Star Trek demographic changing, or is TNN just on crack? Or are both true?

    --
    I'm the stranger...posting to /.
  93. Alternate sundays? Ah crud! by ColGraff · · Score: 1, Redundant

    I thought we hated them every sunday! Anything I can do to fix my mistake?

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    I'm the stranger...posting to /.
  94. No, Tasha Yar's Death is the turning point by ColGraff · · Score: 2

    As soon as she died, I just knew the show would get better! Ugh, butch tomboy who hits on androids - spare me. (Note: I don't care what you say, no one who isn't really drunk would think Yar was sexy in the "Everyone is Wasted" episode.)

    Also, LaForge's promotion greatly improved the quality of the show.

    --
    I'm the stranger...posting to /.
    1. Re:No, Tasha Yar's Death is the turning point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean his promotion from Koonta Kintay?

      "What's ya name boy?!?!"

  95. What goes around... by Monte · · Score: 1

    In the future piracy of movies will probably be a big deal, but I have trouble feeling sorry for studios willing to shell out $20 million to Julia Roberts so we can go watch a steaming pile of dogshit (like that classic My Best Friend's Wedding).

    Just as I'll feel sorry when US legislation mandates ISP implement a surcharge per megabyte of download, with a percentage of that charge going back to the big studios. You'll get all the episodes you want, and you'll pay for them. Win/win all around.

    Ha, ha. Just kidding. Really.

  96. Morality is pointless by ColGraff · · Score: 2

    "Damn you moral code!"

    See, that's why I've adopted the solution I have: Bitch about the MPAA constantly, then buy the DVDs, turn off my brain, and complain on slashdot about how crappy the DVDs are, how eveil copy protection is, and how much I hate the MPAA. It's the best of both worlds! (And not in the bad assimilation way.)

    --
    I'm the stranger...posting to /.
  97. Oh yeah, of course it does by ColGraff · · Score: 2

    What's low-end soft-core porn without a cheesy soundtrack?

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    I'm the stranger...posting to /.
  98. It's not a bargain by alexhmit01 · · Score: 1

    If your allowance isn't sufficient to cover it. I mean, many of Slashdot's readership, like Syre (who figured out how to link to multiple piracy options, go you!) may have just moved on to living in their parent's basement. You can't expect them to spend money on goods and services.

    They are entitled to it, remember?

  99. Airdate order by BRSQUIRRL · · Score: 1

    I didn't check on this theory, so I could be wrong, but they might be ordered by airdate instead of production date for the DVD release. I seem to remember the first season of TNG in particular having some airdate/production date weirdness...resulting in the spontaneous reincarnation of Tasha Yar if you watch the episodes in production order. :)

  100. st:tos dvd's by yawnmoth · · Score: 1

    it's truely amazing - paramount is actually learning from their mistakes! the st:tos dvd's had 2 eps per dvd, and no special features, but now... paramount prooves that they listen to their customers, and do something like this! What a great company. And I remember when Warner Brothers was being hailed as more ahead of it's time than Paramound was - predictions that we'd get DVD's of B5 sooner than we'd get them for star trek... heh. in heindsight, that's sorta funny!

  101. DS9 by akandels · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd rather see a DS9 release. Baby steps, I guess.

    1. Re:DS9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We can still find TNG on the tube, but like you, I'm still waiting for DS9, undoubtedly the best of all of the ST series. The most controversial, adult oriented, and an excellently done series.

    2. Re:DS9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      indeed

    3. Re:DS9 by ShadeEagle · · Score: 1

      I'd gladly pay for DS9... I never saw it on video, save "The Emissary, Parts 1 and 2" in a Pilot Episode boxset.

      All the Ferengi episodes back to back to back in 5.1 - I'd love THAT. "Little Green Men" is still one of my Top 5 Star Trek episodes...

  102. Who wants to see the first coupla seasons anyway? by a+random+streaker · · Score: 1

    Aside from Q, the first season was a waste, as was Dr. Pulaski. The story didn't pick up until the return of Hot Red, the enbearding of Riker, and when it became the Data-n-Picard show.

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    "All representatives are busy. The estimated hold time is one..hundred..sixty..four..minutes." Detroit Edison, 02/01/02
  103. sometimes widescreen IS less. by CoreWalker · · Score: 1

    I'm a big fan of wide screen, which is why I was so disappointed with the DVD for Shawshank Redemption (one of my favorite movies), which was advertised as wide screen. When I did a side by side comparison with it and my full frame version on VHS, I found that the "widescreen" version was just the full frame version with top and bottom cropped. Very disappointing.

  104. We are not Borg by ajs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I hate to be topical, here, but we are not Borg. The "Slashdot Community" is no more a single hive-mind with but a single thought than any other broad-based subculture (I remember someone explaining to me that this is why the gay community has such a hard time getting anything done).

    When you see one article with folks flaming the MPAA and saying that they (MPAA) needs to be stopped, and another which raves about some new DVD, why would you assume that the same people are interested? Slashdot is correctly reporting on "News for Nerds", it's not censoring "cool MPAA stuff" because it would hurt some particular cause any more than its censoring anti-MPAA stuff; nor should they!

    Now, I very much see the value in pointing out to the "ooh, shiny thing" audience that these brand new nifty DVDs are brought to you by the folks who want to stamp out fair use as if it were a plague, but let's not expect that EVERYONE will listen. Many folks who are geeky enough to care about what Slashdot says have no interest in fair use and what it means to them. I consider this their loss, but it's a valid point of view.

  105. This is great! by Like2Byte · · Score: 1

    I can't wait to get them. off topic a little, I've got an old comic book with record of ST. It's called 'ST: A Passage to Mauve' or something similar to that. The comic is in pretty good shape but I can't seem to find any information about it. Anyone know where I might find out about how much it's worth? It was printed circa 1972. I even tried contacting Paramount -- nothing.

  106. *Cough* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the television industry, not the MPAA.

    Chao

  107. X-files DVD collection by Peter+Dyck · · Score: 3, Informative
    Sopranos, Simpsons, X-Files

    I bought X-files 2nd season a while ago but was thoroughly disappointed in it. The package was nice and audio and visual quality was good, but the "usability" of the disc set was abyssmal.

    First of all, when you start watching an episode you're forced to watch the equivalents of the "FBI warning" in at least four languages. After the episode ends, you get to see another four warnings before you get back to the main menu.

    The main menu is my second gripe. I like to watch TV DVDs like I listen to music. I play them in the background, mostly listening and occasionally watching. What I don't want to do is to click through menus every time an episode ends. I want the all episodes to play consequently without any interaction from me. Unfortunately the X-files collection doesn't let you do that. After watching the episode (and the damn warnings) you have to travel all the way back to the main menu and click on the next episode (and watch the warnings again).

    1. Re:X-files DVD collection by friedo · · Score: 2

      That's odd. I have seasons 1 - 4 of The X-Files on DVD and I'm pretty sure the FBI warning only shows up when I first put the disc in, and not when I start each episode.

      I agree it would be nice to have the episodes show continuously though.

    2. Re:X-files DVD collection by Kymermosst · · Score: 2

      I think it might depend on the DVD player... as far as I know, it just has to play them once at disc insertion to meet the MPAA's requirements.

      Some players might do it every time you press play, however, or every time you go to the main menu.

      I could be wrong, though.

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      "Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives" should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
  108. Re:what about cool Cases? by aztec1430 · · Score: 1

    And why aren't the US getting the same trippy cases the UK are getting?

    As in here: amazon.co.uk

    I can't seem to find any in the US that look like this - the US one's all look like the XFiles box sets...

    Cheers,
    Richard

  109. Re:what about cool Cases? by aztec1430 · · Score: 1

    Let me follow that up, with a link to pics of the US verison...
    http://www.dvdreview.com/html/news.html
    CHeers,
    Richard

  110. New Enterprise on Wednesday by janke · · Score: 1

    According to a couple fan sites, and to TV Guide, the new Enterrprise episode, "Silent Enemy", airs this Wednesday.

  111. Re:TNN Sucks on DirecTV by netringer · · Score: 1

    My complaint with TNN is with DirecTV.

    Sometimes when I'm watch ST:TNG on TNN over DirecTV the picture is so bad I think I need glasses or I'm seeing ghosting. DirectTV has lowered the MPEG sampling rate on TNN so much it's often unwatchable. There are often blocky digital artifacts.

    If a character moves fast you get to see where the character WAS as well as where it IS. I don't think that's caused by Wesley Crusher doing some more warp bubble experiments.

    DirecTV has obviously decided that TNN's bandwidth can be better used to add a few more shopping channels.

    Hey, DirecTV! Some of us know that "digital" doesn't always mean "better quality." I'd rather have analog ghosting than digital artifacts your negligence is giving us.

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    Ever dream you could fly? Get up from the Flight Sim. I Fly
  112. looking either like pro wrestlers or pears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every Star Trek male actor goes through at least 2 stages of physiological development: 1. The muscle-bound "pro-wrestler" look 2. The late-30's "pear-shaped look" Similarly, every female actor has 1. hot model look 2. horse with saddlebags

    This has nothing to do with TNN image compression

  113. Subtitles by roie_m · · Score: 1

    German, I think,

  114. Well said by festers · · Score: 1

    Seems like the easiest way to get modded up these days is to spout off about the "slashdot hypocrisy," as if the Anti-MPAA and the pro-DVD posts are from the same person. Generalizations like that should be marked (-1, Clueless)

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  115. Expensive! by Sir+Joltalot · · Score: 1

    So basically you're telling me that all of ST:TNG will be $700? That's $1050 Canadian, which is a fuck of a lot to pay. ST:TNG is good, but over $1k for the series?

    Am I missing something? I mean surely they can put more than 2 episodes on 1 DVD. Double side the damn things and get 8 or 12 on each one.

    This is so, so very clearly just Paramount trying to fuck us over, a la George Lucas with the constant re-releasing of Star Wars. Somehow I thought Paramount might be a bit better about it. Obviously I was mistaken. Sigh...

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    "Caffeine is not an option. Caffeine is a way of life."
  116. Sokath, his eyes uncovered! by ShadeEagle · · Score: 1

    Season 5 *was* definitely one of the best seasons, (though I think you missed Darmok on that list :) )...

    I've only got one thing to say about that:

    Sokath, his eyes uncovered!

    ...

    Mirab, his sails unfurled!

    [A Darmok 'dictionary' can be found here.]

  117. Cheaper X-Files was Re:YES ! Now just a few mor... by Jaegan · · Score: 1

    >X-Files on DVD did it right from the >beginning. Each season for ~ $120.

    Um, save yourself $20 on the rest of the X-Files sets and buy them at WalMart as they come out. $99.96
    (Online shopping does not always result in saving money.)

  118. Reply from ACs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never read if signed by LordNimon.

    BTW, as "Funny" is often passible of -14 / Offtopic, most funny thing pass as 0 / AC.

    So read more.

    Faithfully not yours,
    A_C_Incorporated.