Thank you for the explanation. I understand better now.
Since the dead girl was clinically depressed, she probably was treated so she would not be depressed anymore, right? If so, the doctor probably hoped that the treatment made it so that she would not want to kill herself. If so, then her killing herself means that the treatment failed.
Since the girl killed herself over what someone, who she has never met, said on the internet means that her threshold for suicide was quite low. You cannot protect someone from such traumas without locking them up in their room. For example, she killed herself because her virtual boyfriend broke up with her and told her to kill herself. What are the odds of this happening in real life (she finds a boyfriend and later they fight over something real (maybe him cheating on her) and he then tells her that she can go hang herself)? Quite likely, unless her parents were planning on locking her up and not allowing any boyfriends. A lot of bad stuff can happen in real life, a lot of bad stuff happens that drive a "normal" person to suicide. So the doctors needed to prescribe stronger medication or something, I don't know, I am not a doctor.
What Drew did was bad, she knew about the condition and used the knowledge. If she wouldn't have done it, odds are that somebody else would (a disgruntled boyfriend, some girl who is envious, someone random).
It is sad about what happened, but the dead girl should have had better shields.
Now I'll try to make a computer analogy. A lot of people want to hack computers, a lot of programs have vulnerabilities, but you do not put an unpatched computer on the network and hope that nobody hacks it, you patch, install firewalls so that even if anybody tries to hack it, they can't. If you have to use an unpatched computer (for some reason), you do not connect it to a network, unless the network is tightly controlled by you.
If someone hacks the computer anyway, they are guilty, but so are you. For example, someone hacks the computers at my bank and steals my money. While I will be angry at the hackers, I will be more angry at the banks inability to protect their system and my money. The managers of the bank will probably be angry at their IT guys.
If the dead girl was "programmed" with such severe vulnerabilities, she should have been protected by doctors and parents, who should have read her conversations and maybe put a stop to them.
Drew is not guilty of murder or manslaughter, and the relevant law seems to agree with me, but now they added new law that effectively makes it a crime to hurt a teenagers feelings over the internet. If I lived there and told some kid that he was stupid and the kid started crying, I would probably be a criminal for doing that.
this is hacking. If you trick the owner of the account to give you the password that may be considered fraud. If the owner of the account gives you the password without tricks, it should not be illegal.
For example, my friend asked me to modify his website. To do that I needed FTP access to the server, I asked him and he gave me the password. Should this be illegal?
Is it trespassing if i trick your landlord into giving me the keys to your apartment. YES.
But if I give you the keys to my house voluntarily (not because I was beat up or dead) it is not trespassing.
It should only be a crime if the child asked to be left alone, over and over again, and this individual would not go away.
Doesn't the website have a "block this person" button. If not, it should have it. I can block someone in Skype, email (filter by sender address) and probably can call my cell provider to block a specific number or install some blacklist software to my phone. What I can't do is getting someone to stay away from me IRL (maybe there is some law in my country, I did not need it and hope to never need it). However, in this case, the virtual buyfriend did not exist IRL so it was possible to completely block him.
But when a child suffers from clinical depression and is thus runs a high risk of self-harm or suicide,
then the child should be under supervision (parents, nurse or in an asylum) because he/she is a threat to him/herself and there is a high risk of self-harm or suicide for real or imaginary reasons.
COOL - its not illegal to use a stolen account and password to access a computer system.
It was not a stolen account. It was a fake account. The boy did not exist IRL. It's the same when you sign up on some forum and specify some fake name instead of your real one.
I remember being very skilled at pushing my family away and ensuring they did not know everything that was going on in my life.
Maybe it was you.... or maybe it was them letting you think it was you...
In this case the parents should have monitored her conversations with the "boyfriend", especially because they knew that she was predisposed to suicide.
And adults are either responsible for their actions or they are in an asylum.
And I want you to know I utterly despise your blame-the-victim mentality.
Because everyone is a victim, right?
A kid shoots up his school - he is not guilty, the guns, video games, movies, books, someone is guilty, but not the shooter. A kid kills himself - he is not responsible, the parents, guns, video games, movies, books, someone is, but not he himself. A serial killer kills a lot of people - he is not guilty, the parents, video games, guns, knives, movies, books, victims are, but not the killer, oh no. He had a troubled childhood, you see. A drunk driver causes an accident and injures, kills people - he is not guilty, the alcohol, the alcohol ads, the shops are, but not the man behind the wheel.
Or maybe they are responsible for their own actions? And not the guns, video games, movies, alcohol, drugs. Unless the guns, video games, movies come with some device that controls the perpetrators brain. And no, he bought alcohol and drugs while he was sober knowing that they will mess up his brain.
What is the purpose of separating child criminals from the adult ones? If it is so that the adult criminals don't prey on the (physically weaker) children then it's jail just with a different name and the children are responsible for their actions (since they (and not their parents) were sent there). If the juvenile detention is different from adult jail in more ways than just the age of prisoners then you can say that it is different. Otherwise it's the same as prison for men vs prison for women.
Anyway, I do not live in the US, so I know little about its penal system.
On the contrary, the mind is just another biological function, and driving someone to suicide (i.e. by manipulating their mind until they think of death as the only way out) is as much murdering them as pushing them onto a sword.
So a serial killer has no control over his actions and is not responsible for the people he killed?
As for the "mind is just a biological entity and can be disabled", it is very hard to determine which minds are "disabled", because there are a lot of different people with different minds. At least it is quite easy to tell a physically disabled person from a healthy one.
Still, I believe that if someone has a malfunctioning mind and is a danger to himself or others he should be put in an asylum. If the level of stupidity is not enough to warrant an asylum or medication with supervision then "stupidity is no excuse".
Personal responsibility is all well and good for an adult, but we don't hold children to the same standard in civilized countries.
Depends on how old the dead girl was. If instead of killing herself she would have been caught dealing drugs (or killed someone), would she go to prison? If so, it means she was responsible for her actions, because if a very young child commits a crime the parents are held responsible. When the child is older (the age depends on the country) he/she is held responsible for whatever crime he/she committed.
older octal-base dual-triode voltage amplifier tubes need a fair amount of heater current, as the heaters run at 6 volts.
A lot of vacuum tubes use 6.3V for heater, probably because it was easier if all the tubes used the same voltage, so you didn't need separate windings on the power transformer to accommodate different tubes. A lot of high current diodes used 5V for heater, I don't know why, but since a lot of them had cathodes connected with the heater (for indirectly heated tubes), you still needed a separate winding, so it could be of different voltage.
Instead of being from @microsoft.com they are from @hotmail.com or @yahoo.com using a free throwaway webmail address.
Can't you spoof an email address if you do not need to receive a reply? I remember doing this a few years ago. Maybe they patched it now, with the spam filters and such...
I think it's insane and ghoulish to have a market for body parts instead of having donations.
I don't think so. The organ usually costs to the recipient (to pay for transport, the doctors etc), but the donor does not get a cent. Why is that? If someone cold sell his non-vital organs More people that need them would be able to get them.
Or maybe the organs should be free. If someone could give up his kidney for free, the doctor should put it in another person also for free.
They probably use cache in memory (I know I have disabled cache in HDD and only left it in memory), also they cache the pages that you have visited, so they can be rendered immediately after you press the back button.
Probably if you rendered those pages in 24bit uncompressed BMP, they would sill not take that much space.
This is because memory is quite cheap so programmers do no feel the need to optimize their programs. The same can be said about CPU and hard drive. Newer versions of programs usually are bigger and slower but do not offer any useful features to justify it (Adobe Acrobat Reader, later just Reader was always used just for opening and printing.pdf files, but for some reason each version was bigger while doing the same function, now I use Foxit, which is smaller and faster).
But if all albums of a band I like are there, then I can only:
1. Record the songs off the radio or TV assuming they are still played (requires a lot of time). 2. Buy it second-hand (does not change the fact that I bought it). 3. Download it (free, but illegal). 4. Borrow it from a friend and copy it (illegal, and the friend had to do [1-4]). 5. Do not listen to the band (but I like it and want to listen to it!).
Of course most of the time I end up doing #3, like everybody I know personally.
I have more open tabs in Opera than in Firefox, so right now they are both using about 350MB of RAM, but FF usually uses more RAM. Still, FF and Opera are two programs that use the most RAM on my PC.
My VCR plays 20 year old tapes almost like new, so in my opinion VHS can be used to store video for long periods of time (and I'm using it to do that). There is a huge number of VCRs (if they are no longer being made), so it will be possible to buy one on ebay if the one you bought for recording the tape breaks from use or non-use.
Audio cassettes and R2R audio tapes can store their content for a very very long time and decks are available on ebay. Cassette players are probably still being made.
Now with computer data is is a bit more difficult, but can still be done. Floppies last a very long time and the drives will be available, but the capacity of a floppy is so small by current standards that you may not be able to put everything you want in a reasonable quantity of floppy disks.
CD drives will be available for a very long time, but CD-Rs do not last long. The same with DVD-Rs.
Tape can last a long time and you can still find old tape drives on ebay. Also, tape drives are usually backward compatible at least with a few of the prior generations (my LTO-1 tapes can be read on LTO-2 and LTO-3 drives).
However, my personal choice is Magneto-Optical disks. The disks last at least 50 years and are resistant to magnetic fields. The drives will be available on ebay.
Just go to ebay and look at the items people sell. You can buy a device that is 40 years old or older. What makes you think that you won't be able to buy a device that is 16 or 20 years old. Just use the medium that can hold onto its data for that long and of course do not throw away the device you used to record it with. But even if your device does not make it to 2025 you will be able to buy another one.
Today I would be hard pressed to find anyone with a working 5.25" drive capable of reading my old late-80s highschool documents.
I have 3 working 5.25" floppy drives (2x 1.2MB and 1x 360KB). If you used a PC to store your data, my PC would be able to read it. I have floppies from 1990 and can read them (the files were modified in 1990). I also have MS-DOS 5 on 5.25" floppies and the floppies can be read without a single error.
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Thank you for the explanation. I understand better now.
Since the dead girl was clinically depressed, she probably was treated so she would not be depressed anymore, right? If so, the doctor probably hoped that the treatment made it so that she would not want to kill herself. If so, then her killing herself means that the treatment failed.
Since the girl killed herself over what someone, who she has never met, said on the internet means that her threshold for suicide was quite low. You cannot protect someone from such traumas without locking them up in their room. For example, she killed herself because her virtual boyfriend broke up with her and told her to kill herself. What are the odds of this happening in real life (she finds a boyfriend and later they fight over something real (maybe him cheating on her) and he then tells her that she can go hang herself)? Quite likely, unless her parents were planning on locking her up and not allowing any boyfriends. A lot of bad stuff can happen in real life, a lot of bad stuff happens that drive a "normal" person to suicide. So the doctors needed to prescribe stronger medication or something, I don't know, I am not a doctor.
What Drew did was bad, she knew about the condition and used the knowledge. If she wouldn't have done it, odds are that somebody else would (a disgruntled boyfriend, some girl who is envious, someone random).
It is sad about what happened, but the dead girl should have had better shields.
Now I'll try to make a computer analogy. A lot of people want to hack computers, a lot of programs have vulnerabilities, but you do not put an unpatched computer on the network and hope that nobody hacks it, you patch, install firewalls so that even if anybody tries to hack it, they can't. If you have to use an unpatched computer (for some reason), you do not connect it to a network, unless the network is tightly controlled by you.
If someone hacks the computer anyway, they are guilty, but so are you. For example, someone hacks the computers at my bank and steals my money. While I will be angry at the hackers, I will be more angry at the banks inability to protect their system and my money. The managers of the bank will probably be angry at their IT guys.
If the dead girl was "programmed" with such severe vulnerabilities, she should have been protected by doctors and parents, who should have read her conversations and maybe put a stop to them.
Drew is not guilty of murder or manslaughter, and the relevant law seems to agree with me, but now they added new law that effectively makes it a crime to hurt a teenagers feelings over the internet. If I lived there and told some kid that he was stupid and the kid started crying, I would probably be a criminal for doing that.
if I trick the server
this is hacking. If you trick the owner of the account to give you the password that may be considered fraud. If the owner of the account gives you the password without tricks, it should not be illegal.
For example, my friend asked me to modify his website. To do that I needed FTP access to the server, I asked him and he gave me the password. Should this be illegal?
Is it trespassing if i trick your landlord into giving me the keys to your apartment. YES.
But if I give you the keys to my house voluntarily (not because I was beat up or dead) it is not trespassing.
Hitler himself chose when and how to die, some people probably wanted to choose for him.
The fat businessman dies from old age, a person who was good all his life also dies of old age, so how is karma fulfilled for the businessman?
It should only be a crime if the child asked to be left alone, over and over again, and this individual would not go away.
Doesn't the website have a "block this person" button. If not, it should have it. I can block someone in Skype, email (filter by sender address) and probably can call my cell provider to block a specific number or install some blacklist software to my phone. What I can't do is getting someone to stay away from me IRL (maybe there is some law in my country, I did not need it and hope to never need it). However, in this case, the virtual buyfriend did not exist IRL so it was possible to completely block him.
But when a child suffers from clinical depression and is thus runs a high risk of self-harm or suicide,
then the child should be under supervision (parents, nurse or in an asylum) because he/she is a threat to him/herself and there is a high risk of self-harm or suicide for real or imaginary reasons.
COOL - its not illegal to use a stolen account and password to access a computer system.
It was not a stolen account. It was a fake account. The boy did not exist IRL. It's the same when you sign up on some forum and specify some fake name instead of your real one.
The "victim" LIED about her age to get on MySpace in the first place.
Wait, so if she had survived her suicide attempt she would have been charged with the same crime as the "murderer"?
I remember being very skilled at pushing my family away and ensuring they did not know everything that was going on in my life.
Maybe it was you.... or maybe it was them letting you think it was you...
In this case the parents should have monitored her conversations with the "boyfriend", especially because they knew that she was predisposed to suicide.
And adults are either responsible for their actions or they are in an asylum.
And I want you to know I utterly despise your blame-the-victim mentality.
Because everyone is a victim, right?
A kid shoots up his school - he is not guilty, the guns, video games, movies, books, someone is guilty, but not the shooter.
A kid kills himself - he is not responsible, the parents, guns, video games, movies, books, someone is, but not he himself.
A serial killer kills a lot of people - he is not guilty, the parents, video games, guns, knives, movies, books, victims are, but not the killer, oh no. He had a troubled childhood, you see.
A drunk driver causes an accident and injures, kills people - he is not guilty, the alcohol, the alcohol ads, the shops are, but not the man behind the wheel.
Or maybe they are responsible for their own actions? And not the guns, video games, movies, alcohol, drugs. Unless the guns, video games, movies come with some device that controls the perpetrators brain. And no, he bought alcohol and drugs while he was sober knowing that they will mess up his brain.
That's what juvenile detention is for.
What is the purpose of separating child criminals from the adult ones? If it is so that the adult criminals don't prey on the (physically weaker) children then it's jail just with a different name and the children are responsible for their actions (since they (and not their parents) were sent there). If the juvenile detention is different from adult jail in more ways than just the age of prisoners then you can say that it is different. Otherwise it's the same as prison for men vs prison for women.
Anyway, I do not live in the US, so I know little about its penal system.
Wait, so in the US it is not a crime to "drive somebody to suicide"? OK, then Drew is not guilty of it, because it is not a crime.
On the contrary, the mind is just another biological function, and driving someone to suicide (i.e. by manipulating their mind until they think of death as the only way out) is as much murdering them as pushing them onto a sword.
So a serial killer has no control over his actions and is not responsible for the people he killed?
As for the "mind is just a biological entity and can be disabled", it is very hard to determine which minds are "disabled", because there are a lot of different people with different minds. At least it is quite easy to tell a physically disabled person from a healthy one.
Still, I believe that if someone has a malfunctioning mind and is a danger to himself or others he should be put in an asylum. If the level of stupidity is not enough to warrant an asylum or medication with supervision then "stupidity is no excuse".
Personal responsibility is all well and good for an adult, but we don't hold children to the same standard in civilized countries.
Depends on how old the dead girl was. If instead of killing herself she would have been caught dealing drugs (or killed someone), would she go to prison? If so, it means she was responsible for her actions, because if a very young child commits a crime the parents are held responsible. When the child is older (the age depends on the country) he/she is held responsible for whatever crime he/she committed.
Men just trying to have sex with teenage girls get jail time, but succeeding in coercing suicide gets nothing?
This is obvious - sex is worse than death.
older octal-base dual-triode voltage amplifier tubes need a fair amount of heater current, as the heaters run at 6 volts.
A lot of vacuum tubes use 6.3V for heater, probably because it was easier if all the tubes used the same voltage, so you didn't need separate windings on the power transformer to accommodate different tubes. A lot of high current diodes used 5V for heater, I don't know why, but since a lot of them had cathodes connected with the heater (for indirectly heated tubes), you still needed a separate winding, so it could be of different voltage.
You mean something like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBwM2U77F2c
Instead of being from @microsoft.com they are from @hotmail.com or @yahoo.com using a free throwaway webmail address.
Can't you spoof an email address if you do not need to receive a reply? I remember doing this a few years ago. Maybe they patched it now, with the spam filters and such...
I think it's insane and ghoulish to have a market for body parts instead of having donations.
I don't think so. The organ usually costs to the recipient (to pay for transport, the doctors etc), but the donor does not get a cent. Why is that? If someone cold sell his non-vital organs More people that need them would be able to get them.
Or maybe the organs should be free. If someone could give up his kidney for free, the doctor should put it in another person also for free.
They probably use cache in memory (I know I have disabled cache in HDD and only left it in memory), also they cache the pages that you have visited, so they can be rendered immediately after you press the back button.
Probably if you rendered those pages in 24bit uncompressed BMP, they would sill not take that much space.
This is because memory is quite cheap so programmers do no feel the need to optimize their programs. The same can be said about CPU and hard drive. Newer versions of programs usually are bigger and slower but do not offer any useful features to justify it (Adobe Acrobat Reader, later just Reader was always used just for opening and printing .pdf files, but for some reason each version was bigger while doing the same function, now I use Foxit, which is smaller and faster).
But if all albums of a band I like are there, then I can only:
1. Record the songs off the radio or TV assuming they are still played (requires a lot of time).
2. Buy it second-hand (does not change the fact that I bought it).
3. Download it (free, but illegal).
4. Borrow it from a friend and copy it (illegal, and the friend had to do [1-4]).
5. Do not listen to the band (but I like it and want to listen to it!).
Of course most of the time I end up doing #3, like everybody I know personally.
I have more open tabs in Opera than in Firefox, so right now they are both using about 350MB of RAM, but FF usually uses more RAM. Still, FF and Opera are two programs that use the most RAM on my PC.
My VCR plays 20 year old tapes almost like new, so in my opinion VHS can be used to store video for long periods of time (and I'm using it to do that). There is a huge number of VCRs (if they are no longer being made), so it will be possible to buy one on ebay if the one you bought for recording the tape breaks from use or non-use.
Audio cassettes and R2R audio tapes can store their content for a very very long time and decks are available on ebay. Cassette players are probably still being made.
Now with computer data is is a bit more difficult, but can still be done.
Floppies last a very long time and the drives will be available, but the capacity of a floppy is so small by current standards that you may not be able to put everything you want in a reasonable quantity of floppy disks.
CD drives will be available for a very long time, but CD-Rs do not last long. The same with DVD-Rs.
Tape can last a long time and you can still find old tape drives on ebay. Also, tape drives are usually backward compatible at least with a few of the prior generations (my LTO-1 tapes can be read on LTO-2 and LTO-3 drives).
However, my personal choice is Magneto-Optical disks. The disks last at least 50 years and are resistant to magnetic fields. The drives will be available on ebay.
Just go to ebay and look at the items people sell. You can buy a device that is 40 years old or older. What makes you think that you won't be able to buy a device that is 16 or 20 years old. Just use the medium that can hold onto its data for that long and of course do not throw away the device you used to record it with. But even if your device does not make it to 2025 you will be able to buy another one.
Today I would be hard pressed to find anyone with a working 5.25" drive capable of reading my old late-80s highschool documents.
I have 3 working 5.25" floppy drives (2x 1.2MB and 1x 360KB). If you used a PC to store your data, my PC would be able to read it. I have floppies from 1990 and can read them (the files were modified in 1990). I also have MS-DOS 5 on 5.25" floppies and the floppies can be read without a single error.
Well, pressing a single CD would cost a lot.