That was sort of the point I was trying to get to and I kind of drifted away from it. These types of commitments get made every day,not all of this magnitude of course, but they do get made. The companies/individuals (Like Paul Newman) don't nessasarily do it for the press either, they do it because they can and they feel it's the right thing to do for a particular community or cause. It is a shame that they don't get better coverage, I think it would snowball the effort, but that's not really why they're doing it for the most part.
Ford I think is sorta in the middle. Yeah, good PR, good for the employees etc., but in the long run, it will make Ford more money, I really think this was their motivation, but a great commitment none the less.
It was ironic how short-lived the publicity was over this astounding business move - especially when you compare the coverage of the cracking of Yahoo.
This really is too bad. There have been a lot of different business and charitable grass roots efforts to get a particular segment wired, etc. Most don't receive any press at all unless there is a bill in front of congress and some politician is pressing the flesh. Thiswas a real opportunity to show off the benefit of having a corporation commit to helping it's staff ramp up and become more technical. Way to go Ford! Hopefully when all the press from the recent DoS attacks fades away someone like 60 minutes will do a rah rah on the whole effort.
It's sad but because this wasn't a "sexy" story involiving violence, bad guys, scandle etc., the press will just do a quick fly by to do diligence and say we covered it and then move on to the next Lewinski type story.
Actually you are really on to something there. Sort of like a sig, have a couple of paragraphs or however much you want appended under a "second key" to everything you encript. I can see it now.
Govt Rep.:Mr. L33t H4x0r decrypt these files or you will go to prison! L33t H4x0r: OK
Mr. L33t H4x0r runs key number two and out pours the text to the last opensource man and natalie portman saga.
Much of their initial work focused on the screen's wiring, which is, in fact, etched onto the surface of a piece of glass. One problem with scaling up from current screens is that their wires are created using molybdenum and tungsten, metals that are relatively poor conductors of electricity. Those two metals were originally chosen because they worked well in the wire etching process. After some work, the I.B.M. lab eventually found a way to create faster wiring by developing a new photolithography etching process that substitutes aluminum and copper.
This is going to keep the costs way up there for at least several years. If they are targeting the 30M+ Win customers they are going to need to get the price to come way down. Pretty cool though, I've seen some of those displays they have in the newer A-10 jets, they are very sharp and surprizingly tough, the overall resoulution was sorta like looking at a magazine photo.
Agreed. Obviously they know we want the ports, hence the letter. But a better track I would think would be to "Be nice" and not flame your customers by insinuating that anyone who may have sent a letter was part of a "Mailbomb" campaign.
Reminds me a little of a site I go to from time to time. It's got good threads and gerneally good information, but from time to time the powers that be seem to get tired of the whining and flame a little.
Maybe thats whats happening here. Guess everyone is allowed a little leeway.
Sad but true, but the content, magnetic media etc. including the e-mail correspondence is the property of the company. They had every right to do it. It's a shame that now along with the government in my house, they'll have to also make room for my employer.
AMD continues to expect first revenues from AMD Athlon family processors produced in Fab 30 utilizing its leading edge HiP6L 0.18 copper interconnect technology at the end of the second quarter of 2000.
The at the bottom of the article they state:
Cautionary Statement This release contains forward-looking statements, which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the United States Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are generally preceded by words such as "plans," "expects," "believes," "anticipates" or "intends." Investors are cautioned that all forward-looking statements in this release involve risks and uncertainty that could cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations.. ..
Although I think this will be great (when the prices come down) and all, but I get so disillusioned at promised dates (read Intel) that always get missed. I hope they deliver relatively on time so that maybe by summer we'll have a chance to use the newfound speed.
Way to go Foogle! A little too much cough medicine today? Dude, you need a rest. Take a few days off, enjoy the sun, go out and have adrink with those women who play basketball in high heels.
This is well written and IMO quite accurate. the open source community does not like it when publicly traded corporations buy news media organizations that report on them. This is not complicated, unreasonable, or understated.
This is my feelings on the buyout all wrapped up in one nice little package.
I agree. Although I've only been around here for about 18 mos, My perspective is that the whining level has gone down (the troll level has gone up), and I guess one of the pitfalls of having a popular site is that the communication spreads to each extreme. Even with the increase in negative posts, I think the positive posts have increased at the same rate.
Yeah, but without a little background, We'd all be a little dull. The thing I liked most through the interview is that from end to end you can allways sence he is thinking outside the box, Always thinking about the future. Pretty cool to be able to keep perspective through all the noise.
Kurt, Calm down young man. Sheesh. This is not intended as flamebait, I think that a lot of us do agree with you, although I thought your post was pretty insulting. You posted to all of us, not just flaming one particular post. From my point of view, it seems you made the assumption that all the folks reading this thread deserved you rath.
Anyway, take it as a compliment that/. is so popular, you guys have done a good job. We are here now because we enjoy being here. As you said, we do have a choice, If the attraction goes away so will we, we know you know this, but hopefully you also realize that being flamed by the staff is not what keeps us here.
Yeah, it's not the same as it used to be. Crays HQ was just down the road from my house in Colorado Springs and they still seemed to be making a profit. Then when Mr. Cray pass away the company never quite recovered.
I'm glad you jumped in. Seems that verio management only backed out when it became too expensive. Can't blame them for wanting to make a profit, but the tactic seems to generate huge amounts of negative PR. Sort of like a VA Linux type wanting to trademark the term "Open Source".
Your right to a point. They did back out, but not for the right reasons. Ethically that is. They backed out because of pure -Risk/Reward- , there simply wasn't enough profit margin to justify the legal expense of having council shove this through the courts and the other appelate processes. So it short they punted to use their resources on another track. Right thing, hardly, but a good thing, non the less.
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Your on to something here. Now I know why Ms is renaming Win2K to Wind*ws Excursion just before the launch. (G)
Ford I think is sorta in the middle. Yeah, good PR, good for the employees etc., but in the long run, it will make Ford more money, I really think this was their motivation, but a great commitment none the less.
This really is too bad. There have been a lot of different business and charitable grass roots efforts to get a particular segment wired, etc. Most don't receive any press at all unless there is a bill in front of congress and some politician is pressing the flesh. Thiswas a real opportunity to show off the benefit of having a corporation commit to helping it's staff ramp up and become more technical. Way to go Ford! Hopefully when all the press from the recent DoS attacks fades away someone like 60 minutes will do a rah rah on the whole effort.
It's sad but because this wasn't a "sexy" story involiving violence, bad guys, scandle etc., the press will just do a quick fly by to do diligence and say we covered it and then move on to the next Lewinski type story.
Govt Rep.:Mr. L33t H4x0r decrypt these files or you will go to prison!
L33t H4x0r: OK
Mr. L33t H4x0r runs key number two and out pours the text to the last opensource man and natalie portman saga.
Maybe it's that the fleet of developers are busy working on SP2??
This is going to keep the costs way up there for at least several years. If they are targeting the 30M+ Win customers they are going to need to get the price to come way down. Pretty cool though, I've seen some of those displays they have in the newer A-10 jets, they are very sharp and surprizingly tough, the overall resoulution was sorta like looking at a magazine photo.
Reminds me a little of a site I go to from time to time. It's got good threads and gerneally good information, but from time to time the powers that be seem to get tired of the whining and flame a little.
Maybe thats whats happening here. Guess everyone is allowed a little leeway.
Sure getting crowded in here.
Your not the only one. *shug*:(
AMD continues to expect first revenues from AMD Athlon family processors produced in Fab 30 utilizing its leading edge HiP6L 0.18 copper interconnect technology at the end of the second quarter of 2000.
The at the bottom of the article they state:
Cautionary Statement .
This release contains forward-looking statements, which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the United States Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are generally preceded by words such as "plans," "expects," "believes," "anticipates" or "intends." Investors are cautioned that all forward-looking statements in this release involve risks and uncertainty that could cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations.. .
Although I think this will be great (when the prices come down) and all, but I get so disillusioned at promised dates (read Intel) that always get missed. I hope they deliver relatively on time so that maybe by summer we'll have a chance to use the newfound speed.
Way to go Foogle! A little too much cough medicine today? Dude, you need a rest. Take a few days off, enjoy the sun, go out and have adrink with those women who play basketball in high heels.
This is well written and IMO quite accurate. the open source community does not like it when publicly traded corporations buy news media organizations that report on them. This is not complicated, unreasonable, or understated.
This is my feelings on the buyout all wrapped up in one nice little package.
I agree. Although I've only been around here for about 18 mos, My perspective is that the whining level has gone down (the troll level has gone up), and I guess one of the pitfalls of having a popular site is that the communication spreads to each extreme. Even with the increase in negative posts, I think the positive posts have increased at the same rate.
Yeah, but without a little background, We'd all be a little dull. The thing I liked most through the interview is that from end to end you can allways sence he is thinking outside the box, Always thinking about the future. Pretty cool to be able to keep perspective through all the noise.
Didn't you sort of slide around the question?
As long as you and Rob are here. . . Seems sort of non-commital.
Anyway, take it as a compliment that /. is so popular, you guys have done a good job. We are here now because we enjoy being here. As you said, we do have a choice, If the attraction goes away so will we, we know you know this, but hopefully you also realize that being flamed by the staff is not what keeps us here.
Haha, are you insinuating that we are a bunch of whiney spoiled brats, who scream and yell when we don't get are way?
We are.
Thanks for the update.
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Thats because it was spec'd to be strong, sort of like those bounty paper towels. The PDA with the processor that can withstand 1 ton PSI!
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Yeah, it's not the same as it used to be. Crays HQ was just down the road from my house in Colorado Springs and they still seemed to be making a profit. Then when Mr. Cray pass away the company never quite recovered.
Actually, this is great to see, too bad for Cray though they used to kick some serious ass in this sort of head to head processing prowess.
Never knock on Death's door:
They backed out because of pure -Risk/Reward- , there simply wasn't enough profit margin to justify the legal expense of having council shove this through the courts and the other appelate processes. So it short they punted to use their resources on another track.
Right thing, hardly, but a good thing, non the less.
Never knock on Death's door: