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Beanie Award Wrapup

Well, last Thursday evening we announced the Beanie award winners at the Slashdot/Andover/VA shindig at The China Club. For those of you not able to attend, I've written a synopsis below, otherwise you can watch the whole deal at TheSync. You can grab the awards in both streaming and downloadable format. And, if you'd like to see some pictures from the show, check out Brian Hawkins' online-pix as well as Kurt Gray's pix from the Andover booth.

The awards began predictably enough as Hemos narrowly took home the Hemos award. It amazes me how many people actually abstained rather than vote for Hemos, but alas, he still won. *grin* The award for Best Dressed went to Tux. Sadly, no one ever thought to nominate or vote for the fine women of FreeBSD, and Tux didn't even bother to show up for the award, leaving me with no one to hug. *pout* However, an Anonymous Coward was on hand to accept the Favorite Comment Poster award, as was CmdrTaco for the Favorite Author award. The Best Slashdot Story went to Quickies, and the Cluestick award for FUD went to Microsoft. Also, the pair of "Bully" awards for domain bullying and patent bullying went to Etoys and Amazon, repsectively.

The fun awards done with, it was time to get a little more serious (but not much) for the two grand awards. Best Unix Desktop Eyecandy went to Enlightenment, and Best Unix Earcandy went to XMMS. Best Desktop Theme went to BrushedMetal, which everyone uses at least a part of. The Best Perl Module award went to CGI, the best Apache Module award went to mod_perl, and the Best Open Source Text Editor went to vim. It's good to see things that I couldn't do my job without get some recognition, although I could probably have said the same about any of the nominees (except for Emacs, but that's a different matter entirely *grin*) The "Most Deserving of $2000" award went to Debian, while the Best Book award went to Programming Perl. Finally in this award category, the Non-graphical and Graphical Interface awards went to Pine and The GIMP, respectively.

The award for Most Improved Kernel Module went to USB, probably because it went from non-existent to usable in so short of a time. Alan Cox won the Unsung Hero award and immediately donated his winnings to the DVD defense fund, proving that he is indeed worthy of the name hero. Best Newbie Helper went to Tom Christiansen, famous for helping newbies find their way out of #perl (I'm kidding! Okay, only a little. Tom still rocks in my book.) and Most Deserving Open Source Charity went to the FSF. Best Open Source Advocate went to Linus Torvalds, surprisingly enough, but advocating by doing is one of the best ways to do it.

Finally, the Big Award for Most Improved Open Source Project went to the GNOME project. All of the nominees in this category were projects that at some point people shook their heads at, and now use on a daily basis, but GNOME just happened to beat out the rest.

Also, a new award for "Best Merger/Acquisition" was announced and awarded to VA Linux/Andover.Net to follow that day's news. All in all it was a good night, with lots of free beer and getting to know people who I'd only seen before on IRC or through e-mail. I imagine it was that way for a lot of people there.

174 comments

  1. Cynical old me... by Nodatadj · · Score: 2

    It seems from all of this that it's just a way for Andover to try to buddy up to the Open Source community..."Look we're giving you 100,000$ for no reason at all, we're nice people".

    Like as someone said somewhere, (either here, or themes.org - can't remember), "Why do we care about Andover.net? All they did was buy some successful portals"

    Say byebye karma.

    1. Re:Cynical old me... by pen · · Score: 1
      Wasn't it Slashdot who made the awards?

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    2. Re:Cynical old me... by El+Volio · · Score: 2

      Hmm, being as both /. and themes.org are now part of VA Linux per the Andover buy-out, methinks you have answered your own question.

      "Why do we care?"
      "Because that's where we are."

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      "You can never have too many elephants on your team."

    3. Re:Cynical old me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey

      I happen to agree with him. Moderator who moded him a troll, flush yourself JiggityJiggityJargon

  2. Tommy.. by technos · · Score: 2

    Best Newbie Helper went to Tom Christiansen, famous for helping newbies find their way out of #perl

    I don't think the local trolls could have said it any better! Reminds me of the one helpful soul in #perl who, after looking at my code, told me what I could do with that copy of Perl Cookbook, and no, it wasn't RTFM.

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  3. Does this make sense? by Rombuu · · Score: 3

    Alan Cox won the Unsung Hero award and immediately donated his winnings to the DVD defense fund

    Nothing against Alan, and it is nice that he donated his winnings to the DVD guys, but does it really makes sense to have a popular vote for an Unsung Hero? If so, shouldn't the person who comes in last get the award, since almost by definition, an unsung person is largely unknown and will have little chance of winning?

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    1. Re:Does this make sense? by technos · · Score: 2

      When you hear/see/read about Linux, who do you hear mentioned? Linus. Not AC, who probably contributed as much code to the current kernel as any other human. Not AC, who has consistantly spearheaded the cutting edge development, through v4l, USB, etc.

      In that sense Alan Cox was the man for the award. And deservedly so.

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    2. Re:Does this make sense? by Duxup · · Score: 2

      I have to agree, by even being nominated you prove your not that unsung. I think those people nominated should all get the hug for their work, and the award should be given to "That unsung guy we can't talk about." So that we don't ruin it for him.

    3. Re:Does this make sense? by worth · · Score: 2

      AC as in Anonymous Coward ? :)

    4. Re:Does this make sense? by Myddrin · · Score: 1

      Personally I think it does. If you take Unsung hero to mean unsung by the press.

      I mean think of all the press Linus/Red Hat/etc. gets... and then compare that to RMS, ESR, Alan, etc. etc. etc. etc. I mean OSS is literally standing on the shoulders of giants. (Personally I think the unsung hero should have gone to the MoRE for their DeCSS, but that's me. Nothing against Alan, love the man like a son. (not really, don't know but he does impress the *fuck* out of me.) And I think this is an apporpriate way to reward the less appreciated amongst the OSS community....

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    5. Re:Does this make sense? by Afterimage · · Score: 1

      Only if I win since I was unnominated for the award and am therefore emminently qualified to win. Of course, I don't know that I would have given the money back to the community. Huzzahs to Alan.

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    6. Re:Does this make sense? by Tower · · Score: 2

      >AC, who probably contributed as much code to the current kernel as any other human.

      Yup - a great choice 8^)

      I think Donald Becker should have gotten a prize, too. How many people would be reading /. from a linux box without his network drivers. For that matter, how much more slowly would everthing have developed without the aid of ethernet access? Yes someone *would* have done it, eventually, but <i>he</> did it, and deserves many kudos (and I don't mean the candy bar - do they still exist?).

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    7. Re:Does this make sense? by Anonymous_Hero · · Score: 1

      I think that both AC and Donald Becker deserved the prize. Without Donald Becker's ethernet drivers, I might still be an unhappy NT user.

    8. Re:Does this make sense? by technos · · Score: 2

      Yeah. I can see Becker as very deserving of unsung hero. He was the original author of every Linux Ethernet driver I have ever used, and without him I would have gone over to *BSD.

      Hopefully the 'Beanies' become an annual event. My only Q would be: 'If Linus won X this year, is he ineligible to be voted X next year, or are we unable to vote him in as A,B,C,Y or Z?'

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    9. Re:Does this make sense? by Munky_v2 · · Score: 1

      AC = Alan Cox.


      Munky_v2
      "Warning: you are logged into reality as root..."

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      Jay
    10. Re:Does this make sense? by moonboy · · Score: 2

      I think the term unsung more appropriately means: not given the recognition deserved not the least known. Does that make sense? Please feel free to correct me.

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    11. Re:Does this make sense? by Joe+Groff · · Score: 1
      Yes, I should have won the Unsung Hero award.

      How many of you folks have even heard of me? That's what I thought.

      I would like my $2000 in cash, please.

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      -Joe

    12. Re:Does this make sense? by jagger · · Score: 1

      Unsung
      adj 1: not rendered in song; "their dirge was unsung" 2: not famous or acclaimed; "an obscure family"; "unsung heroes of the war" [syn: obscure, unknown] 3: having value that is not acknowledged [syn: unappreciated, unvalued]

      So therefore the award was for heroes of the linux community that havent had songs written about them. I can only think of two poeple with songs. Linus and RMS. RMS has the Free Software Song and They both are in the the techno remix of the same song. If anyone knows of anyother songs please tell me.

    13. Re:Does this make sense? by sterwill · · Score: 1

      You're James Clark's text formatting tool, aren't you? Yeah, I've been using you for a long time, you don't count.

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  4. Most Stable Open Source Project? by jelwell · · Score: 1

    Is it me, or should there have been a Most Stable/Usable Open Source Project? GNOME certainly wouldn't have won. But even the darling Linux probably wouldn't have won this one.

    Post your winner for the Most Stable/Usable Open Source Project below.
    Joseph Elwell.

    1. Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? by handorf · · Score: 2

      Well, if you're going to snuff out Linux out of the gate (although I disagree, but that's probably because I compare it to NT)..

      Sendmail? (So it's not the GPL. So What?)

      Apache?

      WindowMaker (A personal favorite)?

      Just random thoughts.

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    2. Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? by QuMa · · Score: 2

      I nominate cat. It's never crashed, I use it daily, and I couldn't live without it.

    3. Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? by Nodatadj · · Score: 2

      Windowmaker crashed quite frequently for me, so it wouldn't be win.

    4. Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? by Tower · · Score: 1

      ls has been pretty good to me 8^)

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      "It's tough to be bilingual when you get hit in the head."
    5. Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? by Zorikin · · Score: 2

      Please excuse my off-topicness.

      My experience with KDE and Gnome, and YMMV, has been this. Both almost never crash, even with heavy use. Gnome crashes usually amount to the panel croaking and then starting up again right away. Big deal. At worst, X will quit. KDE crashes tend to cause X to lock up the mouse and keyboard, meaning that I have to drag my ass down the hall and beg someone to give me a telnet window so I can kill X myself. "Why don't you get Windows," they ask. Oh, the shame of it all, the humiliation!

      Thank you, Gnome.

    6. Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? by vectro · · Score: 1

      Without a doubt, that would be GNU cat. ;)

    7. Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? by jagger · · Score: 1

      My apologies if this was sarcasm.

      snip..
      I have to drag my ass down the hall and beg someone to give me a telnet window so I can kill X myself. "Why don't you get Windows," they ask. Oh, the shame of it all, the humiliation!

      If you were using windows and somethin had frozen / blue-screened you would have pushed the reset button and had to reboot. This could cause all sorts of damage to the filesystem, registry, etc... not to mention waiting for scandisk to run isn't any fun.

      With linux you telnet in and kill you X server and then you trot back to your room and continue using your computer like nothing happened. I can't see why this is a source for humiliation.

    8. Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? by steffl · · Score: 1

      I have this old Atari Portfolio and I use it as a terminal for my linux machine via serial cable (null modem) (at home, no other computer to telnet from). why don't you get something like this? I guess palm pilot or other PDA could be used as well...

      you know you just have to have one of those gizmos anyway (if you don't have few already:-)

      erik

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      ...all excited, don't know why...
    9. Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about GNU Hello?-)

    10. Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      true

  5. Slashgrit beanie awards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3

    Coming soon... the Slashgrits beanie awards.

    How many bowls of hot grits should we pour down Rob's pants?

    Thank you.

    1. Re:Slashgrit beanie awards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice job, moderate the trolls up.

    2. Re:Slashgrit beanie awards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why not ? we let karma whores without an original thought in their head moderate themselves up so why not a troll ? at least he/she was original :)

    3. Re:Slashgrit beanie awards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But he's funny, therefore he gets a funny point. You on the other hand are trollish and offtopic so you should get a troll point and an offtopic point!!!

    4. Re:Slashgrit beanie awards by Wah · · Score: 1

      wow, trolls DO have a lot of time on their hands.

      Mix this with that Suckdot piece from a while back and we'd have a new sport...SuckGrits!

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    5. Re:Slashgrit beanie awards by ellem · · Score: 1

      Absolutely brilliant. Complete with nudity and a real sense of humor. Should be there everytime I click on Netscape...(which regrettably is quite often, usually right after Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)

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    6. Re:Slashgrit beanie awards by scumdamn · · Score: 1

      The most inspired thing about the poll is that Signal11 is a choice and that he's actually winning!

    7. Re:Slashgrit beanie awards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sig 11 is poll whore!!!

    8. Re:Slashgrit beanie awards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a lame bitch you are.

    9. Re:Slashgrit beanie awards by fprintf · · Score: 2

      This has to get a +5 Funny for sure! One of the best parodies I have ever seen. Way too cool!

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  6. Best Desktop Theme by worth · · Score: 2

    This is one of the more dissapointing areas of the awards. I was sad to only see Enlightment/Enlightment Based themes. There are a lot of other great themes in other window managers. For example, Blackbox(the window manager I use) has a lot of great themes--my favorite, is the default Sleet. I think it looks great, but that's only my opinion.

    One of the more surprising awards was the one awarded to Alan Cox, the unsung hero awarded. I was glad that he got it, but I didn't think he would--he is usually mentioned in many of Slashdot's stories. It's nice of him for donating the money, so it's probably a good thing that he got the award.

    1. Re:Best Desktop Theme by Filgy · · Score: 1

      I think that only enlightenment themes got nominated because most themes for other windowmanagers are merely a different set of images and colors from all the other themes for that windowmanager. Enlightenment themes are truly unique from theme to theme (for the most part).

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      -- filgy
  7. call me cynical of cynics, but... by T.Hobbes · · Score: 1

    ... it just seems like andover is trying to share some of the big $$ they got from the OSS community.
    don't look a gift horse in the mouth...

    1. Re:call me cynical of cynics, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      it just seems like andover is trying to share some of the big $$ they got from the OSS community.

      Oh, wait, this sounds interesting. We've got to meet in person soon. I've got some nice swampland to sell!

      Unbelievable...

  8. Pine best non-graphical? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh my and nominate the next biggest non-free software (MS Office) as the best production software.

    Thank you.

    AC Inc.

  9. Wow by Foogle · · Score: 1
    You know what? I've got major Karma to burn here, so I'm just going to say it: CmdrTaco is a huge dork. He's also pretty ugly. Hemos, on the other hand, is kind of good looking -- and CowboyNeal is just a fatty.

    But, back on topic here, Rob really is a dork. I mean, seriously, this is the kind of guy that I normally make fun of -- he doesn't even have a stage presence, so why the heck did they put him up there?? It's ridiculous...

    Anyway, mark me down fuckers - 'cause I don't care anymore!! HAHAHAHHAHAH!

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    "You can't shake the Devil's hand and say you're only kidding."

    1. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Reminds me of the movie "Bulworth" a congreeman hires a man to kill him, and, knowing he'll be dead within 24 hours, no longer cares, and consequently SPEAKS THE TRUTH!

      This sort of bravery & independence deserve recognition, not negative moderation by lackey moderators who gained karma by posting "insightful" and "interesting" "Linux Good MS Bad/GNOME Good KDE Bad" posts.

    2. Re:Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You know what? I've got major Karma to burn here, so I'm just going to say it: CmdrTaco is a huge dork. He's also pretty ugly. Hemos, on the other hand, is kind of good looking -- and CowboyNeal is just a fatty.

      But, back on topic here, Rob really is a dork. I mean, seriously, this is the kind of guy that I normally make fun of -- he doesn't even have a stage presence, so why the heck did they put him up there?? It's ridiculous...

      Anyway, mark me down fuckers - 'cause I don't care anymore!! HAHAHAHHAHAH!

      Ha ha, that's the funniest thing I've read on Slashdot in a while.... noone really gives a fuck anymore... people came to Slashdot to check out a few links to stories that were semi intersting. As it progresses we've learned that the people who run this site are idiots.

      AC OUT

    3. Re:Wow by rellort · · Score: 2

      Yep. I've seen it before. Slashdot burnout.

      Too many Open-Source cheerleader stories. Too much psuedo-geek masturbation. Too many flames for people expressing opinions not SDC (SlashDot Correct).

      Symptoms: Unmasked flaming, frustration with narrow-minded Linux zealots, not giving a flip about your "Karma" anymore.

      Treatment: Abstain from Slashdot for a while. Take a vacation. Sharply limit future Slashdot visits. Let your old login die and create a new one with no traceable identifiers so you can flame freely. Post a well-crafted troll every now and then.

      You've been reading Slashduh too long and too much, Foogle. The quality of the contributions around here is dropping. The good old days are over. Take a breather. When you come back, have some fun posting pure garbage with a default 2.

      rellort -- President of Slashaholics Anonymous -- "Just because I use Linux doesn't mean I have to talk about it all damn day."

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    4. Re:Wow by Foogle · · Score: 1
      You know what? I hope you realize how on-the-money you are... I think I'll take that advice.

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    5. Re:Wow by Enoch+Root · · Score: 2
      Hee-haaw, rellort, you are so on the money!

      I bet we'd be amazed how many so-called 'good posters' on Slashdot have alternate IDs for creative trolling. Myself, I'd fancy burning off the excess karma and always be sure to keep my karma at exactly 0. That would certainly be in synch with the concept of cosmic balance.

    6. Re:Wow by 348 · · Score: 2
      BBBBUUUUUHHHAAAAAHHHAAA!!!!!

      Way to go Foogle! A little too much cough medicine today? Dude, you need a rest. Take a few days off, enjoy the sun, go out and have adrink with those women who play basketball in high heels.

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      than any one place on the net.

    7. Re:Wow by hcsiii · · Score: 1

      Hmmm. Can't help but wonder if 'Foogle' might not have already done this with 'Foogle.' After all, what better way to flame freely, than to take 'Foogle.'. Since everybody knows that the groupies try to troll as someone by registering their nick with a period after it, which he reinforces by posting immediately after 'Foogle.'s comments "That wasn't me" signed 'Foogle', maybe he is 'Foogle.'.

      That would be pretty sad though. Being one's own groupie, I mean. Then again, what about Hemos?

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  10. The only reason.... by GNUs-Not-Good · · Score: 1

    GNOME won for most improved is because it was so bad in the first place. Even with all of the supposed imporvements, it still can't touch KDE.

    KDE is more stable, has more features, and is overall a much better project, with nicer project leaders and a better toolkit.

    1. Re:The only reason.... by Millennium · · Score: 2

      GNOME won for most improved is because it was so bad in the first place. Even with all of the supposed imporvements, it still can't touch KDE.

      You know, you could try not flaming. Why can't Gnome touch KDE? And yes, Gnome was pretty bad to start. That's why it's called improvement.

      KDE is more stable, has more features, and is overall a much better project, with nicer project leaders and a better toolkit.

      One: you're dead wrong about stability. Compare the two, and it's a wash; both are pretty good but both still have a way to go.
      Features: Pray tell, what does KDE have that Gnome doesn't?
      Nicer project leaders: I'll grant, the KDE project leaders are nice. Even their responses to flames are nice (take it from someone who once flamed KWM and got called on it, by KWM's maintainer no less). But I don't see how Gnome's project leaders are any less nice. You'd better be ready with examples for this one...
      Four: Better toolkit? Ever programmed in both of them? Unless you have, you have no right to compare.

    2. Re:The only reason.... by GNUs-Not-Good · · Score: 1

      Well put....you made my point exactly.

    3. Re:The only reason.... by Tower · · Score: 2

      >One: you're dead wrong about stability. Compare the two, and it's a wash; both are pretty good but both still have a way to go.

      Yup, both are pretty good, but have some room for improvement... I have been running KDE on my AIX workstation for several months no with litle or no incident (knock on polymer desk surface). I haven't gotten Gnome running over here yet, so I can't compare the two on this platform, but at home on Linux I haven't had any problems with KDE, and very few with (the newer releases of) Gnome...

      I think both are good features wise - they aim at a different user segment, it seems, but both are configurable to whatever you really want (Gnome may have the edge here).

      >Better toolkit? Ever programmed in both of them? Unless you have, you have no right to compare.

      hmmm... I have, and I can say that QT is (IMHO) a lot nicer than GTK... but (shrug) it all depends on what styles you like as a programer. I find the interface easier and more intuitive, and the end results of either one can be pretty much identical (as I duck from the flying flames).

      All in all, I started using KDE before Gnome (back when both were really bad), and that may have skewed my views, but all that really matters is What Works For You(TM).

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    4. Re:The only reason.... by extrasolar · · Score: 2

      KDE is more stable, has more features, and is overall a much better project, with nicer project leaders and a better toolkit.

      You must not have used GNOME in a *long* while. After all, it was voted most improved project. Was KDE even nominated for anything? (honest question)

    5. Re:The only reason.... by Zorikin · · Score: 1

      Hello, please do not post to slashdots in realities other than your own. This slashdot exists in a reality other than the one which contains the Gnome and KDE to which you are referring. While your comments regarding these projects, and regarding Millennium's post, may apply to the reality from which you originated, they simply do not apply to this reality, and as such should not be posted on this slashdot.

    6. Re:The only reason.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But I don't see how Gnome's project leaders are any less nice. You'd better be ready with examples for this one...

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid _321000/321433.stm

      "I don't think KDE has a future"

    7. Re:The only reason.... by sparkes · · Score: 1

      What does KDE have that Gnome dosen't????

      Kdevelop for a start!

      and Mosfet.org to finish :-)

      sparkes

      oh and me developing software :-P

      *** www.linuxuk.co.uk relaunches 1 Mar 2000 ***

  11. So what do you plan for next year? by Steve+G+Swine · · Score: 0

    Will the FSF get the Best Open Source Charity award every year forever, and will Linus get the Advocate award every year forever?

    Or is there some expectation that these folks will be "dethroned" at some point?

    Or are Beanies not an annual award/excuse to drink beer?

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  12. Controversy and semantics by SkulkCU · · Score: 1

    No, no, no. Nominees are eligible because they do not have ballads (yet) singing their praises. Although Alan's been on t-shirts and mentioned in numerous .sig's, we have yet to hear a song about him.

    There was a bit of contoversy with the other nominees, because although Linus has not yet had any folk-songs sung of him by the firelight, he was excluded becuase there was an off-off-broadway musical about him. While some argue that this is not in the spirit of a true hero's song, others maintain that ANY song qualifies to create an officialy 'Sung Hero'.

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  13. What they didn't say by Pike · · Score: 1

    They told us CmdrTaco was voted favorite /. author.

    What we really want to know was how many people actually voted for jon katz :-)

    To make it fair, why not give us the results for every entry, instead of just telling us who won?

    JD

    1. Re:What they didn't say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      To make it fair, why not give us the results for every entry, instead of just telling us who won?

      Because Slashdot & its readers give lip service to open source, but are too 'l33t' to let you see the results. Security through obscurity. Voter fraud by not knowing the results. No difference between the 2.

    2. Re:What they didn't say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jon Katz got one vote and that was his mother. Even he doesn't himself!!!

  14. Too bad... by rbf · · Score: 1

    Too bad there isn't a RealPlayer for Alpha Linux... That would be kinda useful IMHO.

  15. the stink of corporate......descent of /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is it just me or does the aroma emmanating from /. now resemble that of any other corporate entity...... the scent of money always smells like sewer....

    1. Re:the stink of corporate......descent of /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      the scent of money always smells like sewer....

      In that case, please give me all your money. Thanks.

  16. Re:whoopdy-doo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I think it says a lot if GIMP won an award for best GUI interface....

    (Hey, I love GIMP, it deserves a real award, but the interface sucks).

  17. Hemos Award - The Conspiracy by Rodney+L+Caston · · Score: 3

    I feel the Hemos Award was rigged, It should have been presented to me as I feel I am a better "Hemos" then the Hemos who accepted the award. This leads me to believe that there is a conspiracy underway to prevent the more worthy Hemos-i from stepping forward to claim their heritage. No - instead we are forced to acknowledge this false prophet Hemos as our true Hemos. This is most Anti-Hemos and his coming has been told in the great book of Hemos for some Hemoniums now. Anonymous Hemos #981376351

    1. Re:Hemos Award - The Conspiracy by Hemos · · Score: 3

      I am the Way, The Truth, and The One True Hemos. Only through me shall the hemos be dispensed, and thus only through me shall the Hordes of hemos control the earth.

      --
      Yeah, I'm that guy.
    2. Re:Hemos Award - The Conspiracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm hemos, aka Jeff Bates. I help run this site, along with Rob Malda. I handle books, and generally posting stories.

      Well *DUH*

      And don't edit your posts after you hit the submit button. Not playing fair there, Hemos.

    3. Re:Hemos Award - The Conspiracy by Field+Marshall+Stack · · Score: 1
      I am the Way, The Truth, and The One True Hemos. Only through me shall the hemos be dispensed, and thus only through me shall the Hordes of hemos control the earth.

      To be expected, really. I'm just surprised he hasn't moderated it up to Score: 7 (Brilliant).
      --
      "HORSE."

      --
      "HORSE."
      -Flaming Carrot
  18. GPL qustn: If I lease modded code, must I release? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I modify a piece of GPL'd code and include in in a system that I lease (not sell or give away) to a customer, then does GPL require that I release the source code? I am always the owner of the system, so the code really never left my possession, yes?

  19. MODERATE THIS UP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Suggested score: 5, insightful.

    1. Re:MODERATE THIS UP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      HAWHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAHAHAH!

      The parent of this wasn't really funny, but this is the one that made me break out laughing. This deserves a 5,funny.

  20. Scandal! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    The Beanie awards were fixed! It was planned for Hemos to win the Hemos award, right from the beginning! He is an Andover.Net employee, and should have been disqualified because of this. The real winner was Abstain, but somebody with administrative access to the database (*cough*Hemos*cough*) must have tampered with the votes.

  21. Nice ass. by kevlar · · Score: 2

    BSD Ass... check it out.

    1. Re:Nice ass. by kevlar · · Score: 2

      http://members.xoom.com/linuxdaddies/nyc/nyc-088.j pg

      You'll have to copy and paste to see it... they're not allowing links :(

    2. Re:Nice ass. by David+Ham · · Score: 1
      if you liked that, you'll *really* like this...

      i am a picture link!

      i don't own this image, btw, i just found it online, so if it's yours and you want me to take it down, mail me and let me know.
      --

      --

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      you must amputate to email me
      i read all replies to my comments

    3. Re:Nice ass. by screeching+weasel · · Score: 0

      cool sig. KMFDM is cool.

    4. Re:Nice ass. by alumshubby · · Score: 1

      Is she the real deal, or booth candy?

      --
      "How many light bulbs does it take to change a person?" --BMcC-->
    5. Re:Nice ass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, they're cool. That is, if you're a total fucking pathetic loser.

    6. Re:Nice ass. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh oh. Looks like the red-haired guy from 12 Monkeys has already delivered the virus (note that he is lacking the suitcase)...
      I guess that Y2K bunker will becoming in handy after all.

      Seriously though, the resemblance is uncanny.

      jonathan@apathetic.net

    7. Re:Nice ass. by Otto · · Score: 1

      Also check out:
      http://members.xoom.com/linuxdaddies/nyc/nyc-010 .jpg
      http://members.xoom.com/linuxdaddies/nyc/nyc-011 .jpg
      http://members.xoom.com/linuxdaddies/nyc/nyc-012 .jpg
      http://members.xoom.com/linuxdaddies/nyc/nyc-013 .jpg
      http://members.xoom.com/linuxdaddies/nyc/nyc-041 .jpg
      http://members.xoom.com/linuxdaddies/nyc/nyc-084 .jpg

      If these images are any kind of order of these guys day, they just couldn't help but come back to that BSD booth... :-)

      ---

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      - Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
  22. Next year's nomination for the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "You ignorant interloper, you're not one of us, and you never will be. OK, the hellmouth series was interesting but the rest of your stuff is crap, so take this money and leave us the fuck alone!" award should be JonKatz

    Anonymous because I'm a closet karma whore.

    1. Re:Next year's nomination for the by kvhaz · · Score: 1

      What exactly does "one of us" mean? Didn't realize this was a cult. And heaven forbid one should read something other than tech news. lighten up guy.

  23. duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would have to say Windows 98

  24. A briliant troll by law · · Score: 1

    I am usualy of the opinion that feeding trolls is a bad thing; but this is unique.
    Maybe someone will post it as a article. Then I guess it would not be a troll anymore, Oh the irony!

    --
    "Think of it as evolution in action."
  25. But what were the stats!? by kwclark · · Score: 1

    What were the vote results? Its all fine and nice to know Linus won the best open source advocate, but we want to know how RMS, ESR, and all the other TLAs did.

    Ken

  26. Re:Bah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    bullshit. KDE and gnome both suck. use AfterStep and see what youre missing with your crappy 'im an idiot - look i need pretty pictures' wms. Real Men use AfterStep.

  27. Who voted for Tom Christiansen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Tom definitely doesn't deserve the "Best Newbie Helper" award. Sure, he's co-authored many great Perl books, but this just serves to confuse the facts. Tom's EVIL. (He's actually LAWFUL EVIL, which also confuses people, but just remember: EVIL is the opposite of GOOD.)

    Go read Larry Wall's 2nd State of the Onion address. Pay particular attention to the following paragraphs:

    Most of you are familiar with the virtues of a programmer. There are three, of course: laziness, impatience, and hubris.

    These are virtues of passion. They are not, however, virtues of community. The virtues of community sound like their opposites: diligence, patience, and humility.

    They're not really opposites, because you can do them all at the same time. It's another matter of perspective. These are the virtues that have brought us this far. These are the virtues that will carry our community into the future, if we do not abandon them.

    If anyone can show me A SINGLE INSTANCE of Tom being either patient or humble, I'd love to see it. Otherwise, I'm going to keep on believing that this award was given to Tom not because he deserved it, but because he led the pack in name recognition.

    1. Re:Who voted for Tom Christiansen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Christiansen is an arrogant clueless fuckhead. He is a selfish bastard who has threatend to sue anyone who uses his Perl code examples with out permission. The funny thing is that most of his examples are completely trivial.

      Did anyone ever see that film Midnight Express? Christiansen should be put into a Turkish prison for 7 or 8 years. That would teach him some respect. I'd love to have a video tape of him being gang raped by Turkish prison thugs.

  28. Trolls by HaikuMan · · Score: 2

    Vital to slashdot
    Denied cheap Andover stock
    Give trolls a beanie

    --
    --- HAIKU MAN.
  29. he weebles and he wobbles but he won't fall down! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone should watch the video just to see the fat guy. Had me laughing for a solid hour.

  30. Ugly George?! by triple6 · · Score: 1

    Geez, I didn't think that guy was still alive?!

    http://members.xoom.com/linuxdaddies/nyc/nyc-036 .jpg
    http://members.xoom.com/linuxdaddies/nyc/nyc-037 .jpg
    http://members.xoom.com/linuxdaddies/nyc/nyc-086 .jpg

    Anybody know if his "show" is still on the air?
    /me shudders.

    1. Re:Ugly George?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who is he?

    2. Re:Ugly George?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      5 seconds with google suggests he/it is a New York porn TV channel/show.

    3. Re:Ugly George?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's certainly better-looking than Jon Katz, but I'm afraid they have the same tailor and hair-dresser.

  31. Breakdown of votes by rotten_ · · Score: 1

    I was really hoping to see a breakdown of the votes as well as just the winners. Or at least a 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Is there plans to do this?

    -k

    1. Re:Breakdown of votes by scherrey · · Score: 1

      YES! I spent the time voting (knowing full well that none of my selections would win) so I'd like to know just how many other people agreed with me even though we're in the minority (that it, we think).

      thanx,

      Ben Scherrey

  32. Best dressed my ass! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was robbed!

    Thank you.

  33. GIMP was undeserving by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a side note, even before my actual 1 cent, I have this. Why is it that people seem to assume that if they can foretell another's actions those actions somehow become less worthwhile. For example, somehow I assume that if I say "Mark this as a -2 Troll, I expect moderators to reel back, aghast that I was able to open up the intricate workings of their mind, and that to do so now would be to vindicate my assumptions. That was a bit less organized than my usual rantings.

    Oh yes, my actual note. The gimp has a terrible user interface, with those right mouse bring up menus.

  34. Re:GPL qustn: If I lease modded code, must I relea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ummm... I'm not exactly sure what this question is doing here, but, as far as I can tell, the key word here is "distribute." You've distributed the code for use by others -- commercial use, no less. Sorry, but it's most likely time to fork over the source, as well. Hell: if you're leasing it, and you wrote it speicifically *for* them, why not try to do what OS is all about? Support the hell out of 'em, and charge 'em up the wazoo.

  35. I am the Susan Lucci of the Beanie Awards by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 3



    humor_mode(on);

    When I found out E won, I looked up from my plate of pancakes and said, "Well, that sucks. I shoulda won that one." (I really like pancakes) ..It put a damper on my whole day. "Bastards," I thought to myself, "..dont these people realize that its a windowmanager?" I mean, cthulga, xlockmore, thats eye-candy. Saying a windowmanager is eye-candy is like saying "Mmmm! Wow! Look at the morals on that gal!" ..A windowmanager is incidental to what goes _in_ it. Propaganda is a $5,000 paintjob with 10 layers of polyurethane high-gloss finish. Enlightenment is merely a chassis.

    As I ate my pancakes, I imagined Geoff and Carsten gladly accepting the award, and the $2000 prize that went with it.. I imagined them going to the bank to cash it, and stopping by Piggly Wiggly to pick up a roll of scotch tape, only to march home, tape all the bills together in one big long line, roll it up, and insert it into the toilet paper holder right next to the john. "Damnit!" I said to myself, "Geoff and Carsten make too much money! Salary! Stock options! What good would two grand do those two?" , and I began to dream...What would I do with two grand?

    I'd put it to good use, thats what I would do with it.

    I'd hire a skywriter up in Redmond to put the words "WE SUCK" with a big arrow pointing down to Microsoft's HQ, every day for a year.

    I'd go to one of those ultra-sized supermarks and buy like 200 kegs of Log Cabin syrup..keep one for my pancakes, and pour the rest into Lake Washington where Gates lives, so his whole house smells like maple syrup for weeks. Call in the news media, and blame it on Bill, saying he finally went nutty like Howard Hughes did. "He just likes dumping maple syrup into the lake behind his house, then denying it." , i'd tell the press.

    Or, if on that particular day, I felt particularly artistic, I would ...eh, well...if only I had won. Maybe the world could have been different.

    I'll just eat my pancakes and wait till next year. ;)

    "Well, at least your not like Susan Lucci....not yet." - My dad

    humor_mode(off);

    Congrats Carsten & Geoff :)


    Bowie J. Poag
    Project Manager, PROPAGANDA For Linux (http://propaganda.themes.org)

    --
    Bowie J. Poag

    1. Re:I am the Susan Lucci of the Beanie Awards by Ian+Schmidt · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but PROPAGANDA by the "new guy" is like $1000 worth of "powered by Honda" stickers. Proving once again that anyone can draw seamless tiles, but only Bowie can draw PROPAGANDA.

      Pleeease return to drawing kick-ass seamless tiles Bowie! All is forgiven!

    2. Re:I am the Susan Lucci of the Beanie Awards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been meaning to drop you a note saying how cool your tiles are. So...

      "Gee, your seamless background tiles are really great. Thanks for making them. And the whole JFK thing is funny as hell too."

  36. hello by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i've just put a flute in my ass. the flute is not magical.

    --Linux and flutes in my ass. Does it get any better?

    1. Re:hello by HomerG · · Score: 1

      I laughed myself to tears and almost wet my pants when I read this. I think it may be because I just watched "American Pie". "The flute is not magical" will be a phrase I will be using for some time to come. Thanks for a good laugh and phrase.

  37. Re:Slashdot Gnome love-in continues by Arandir · · Score: 2

    Now I hate the Gnome just as much as the next guy, but this is a bit overboard...

    "BrushedMetal is a Gnome/E theme"

    Uh, BrushedMetal is an Enlightenment theme. Enlightenment is not Gnome. I don't have one bit of Gnome on my box but I use Enlightenment and BrushedMetal, eSlate, and BlueHeart.

    "I bet KDE and Windowmaker themes weren't even allowed in this stupid contest."

    Did you nominate one? I was torn between Windowmakers's AIndustrial, KDE's Photon and E's BlueHeart, and I ended up with BlueHeart. There is a very good reason there were pretty much only Enlightenment themes nominated: you can do tons more with them than with any other wm themes.

    --
    A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
  38. I remember the first time I was drunk too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That video reminded me of the first time I got drunk, IN GRADE 8.

  39. GNOME / KDE: Who cares? by WHiTe+VaMPiRe · · Score: 3

    So what if KDE won no awards? If I wanted to use Windows, I would run Windows; it has a better interface anyway. (Spare me the flames, I care not.)

    Seriously though, I am not out to bash KDE, to each their own. I am not a big fan of GNOME either, just another excuse to eat resources. That is what Enlightenment is for.

    Enlightenment won best unix desktop *eyecandy* -- KDE and GNOME have very little *eyecandy*.

    I am not too fond of the default Enlightenment theme. Nevertheless, you must agree that it is hard for a Blackbox theme to win the 'best theme' award. Enlightenment, overall, has the most eyecandy when it comes to themes. Blackbox is an excellent windowmanager. In fact, I am running it now. Nevertheless, it is simplistic. To reiterate, Enlightenment, overall, has really neat stuff when it comes to themes.

    Quit complaining about it being 'one-sided.' Did you vote for what you liked? Good, you got your side in. If not, too bad, you should have. This was not intended to be a big deal anyway, it was just for fun.

    I was slightly shocked when I read this report and saw 90% of negative comments. Why must everybody be so negative? Do you always have to go out of your way to attack Slashdot or something they have done? Opinions differ, get used to it, and deal. You are not 12 any more, try acting like it.

    You people might enjoy life more if you quit whining.

    Kind regards,

    WHiTe VaMPiRe\Rem

    1. Re:GNOME / KDE: Who cares? by Otter · · Score: 2

      This was not intended to be a big deal anyway, it was just for fun.

      That's what I found so odd about this whole thing -- Slashdot basically just gave $100,000 away as party favors. There was no explanation of how candidates were selected from the nominees, no vote counts anywhere, minimal participation in the forums. It's a little disconcerting, especially to those of us who remember Rob posting a couple of years ago begging for a sponsor to cover his trip to Linux Expo.

  40. Its usenet, all over again by Yarn · · Score: 2

    Aye, its got pretty bad, as for trolling, I cant be bothered. I'll just go on saying what I think. I wont just disappear like I did on usenet.

    (The fact I lost my ability to connect to a news server may have contributed to my dumping of usenet :)

    --
    -Yarn - Rio Karma: Excellent
  41. CGI Award by lstein · · Score: 1

    I just found out about the Beanie Awards, and also that the CGI module won the award for best Perl module. Since I wrote the module, does that mean I get some money (which would certainly be a first!)?

    Where do I go to get my check?

    1. Re:CGI Award by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Everybody knows that the guys who actually wrote the code don't get any of the money...

  42. Damn! Who is the BABE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://members.xoom.com/linuxdaddies/nyc/nyc-077.j pg

    1. Re:Damn! Who is the BABE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF do you mean Babe? She should have won the "I'm starving, buy me something to eat." Beanie award.

      That chick is tooooo skinny!!!!!!!

    2. Re:Damn! Who is the BABE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By the way, if you couldn't tell from my last post, I LOVE fat women. More cushion for the pushin', as the man says.

  43. Slashdot Slashgrits Box! by pb · · Score: 1

    Even if Slashgrits is just headlines and a poll, couldn't we have a Slashbox for it?

    Pretty please? I *need* my daily updates on the latest grits-pouring, pancake-making, ninja news for trolls, stuff that petrifies! :)
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  44. Live from NYC by mholve · · Score: 0
    Whoa, what a dorkfest the Andover booth was... So what did you guys actually *do* there?

    Buy anyway... LinuxWorld was weak. Only half of the top floor, the very small side - was used. The downstairs area was closed also. Maybe it's just me, but Linux Expo in Raleigh/Durham was more exciting and "big money" than this lame beast.

    Anyone else find something strange about SGI's tie-dyed shirt that said, "open is not free?" Yeah, it is true sometimes - but what did I miss? Thie was apparently a quote from the dude mentioned below the quote, but WTF?

    LinuxOne. LOL. 'Nuf said.

    What was so special about the BSD woman? If she had worn a red g-string then I can see the commotion...

    Applixware is looking WAY better thanks to it's GTK re-write. Keep it up Applix! Got a preview CD at the show... It runs rather well so far with only one crash and a lot of PNG library warnings so far.

    A few cute stickers to be had but nothing memorable like LinuxCare's "Linuxgruven" one that I got last year. "Living la vida Linux" was cute, the VA Linux ones inescapable and the "Linux is where I want to go today" ones were lame and ugly.

    Lots of cool games to be had about the show. Loki is kickin' some serious bootie out there. Keep it up folks!

    Overall I wasn't really impressed with the show itself. Linux Expo was way more energetic and seemed to have a lot more cool stuff.

    And that's all I have to say about that.

    1. Re:Live from NYC by ellem · · Score: 1

      what was so special about the BSD woman?

      LOSER!

      A. She's a hottie...ps she USES BSD...
      B. In a sea of unwashed men she was a REAL hottie
      C. Latex...it's not just for Typesetting anymore!

      --
      This .sig is fake but accurate.
    2. Re:Live from NYC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > B. In a sea of unwashed men she was a REAL hottie

      Well, looking at the typical GNU/Linux man (e.g. Alan Cox, RMS...): Is there a section in the GPL that says, you are not allowed to take a shower more than once a month?

    3. Re:Live from NYC by Robert+S+Gormley · · Score: 1
      I just love C. :)

      --

      Open Source. Closed Minds. We are Slashdot.

  45. How about a special Beanie? by ckd · · Score: 0

    We should have a special Beanie Award for longest use of the term "recent" to describe an event. (Maybe as part of a special story on the upcoming anniversary of "recent" events?)

    (Oh, and guys? The features box still says that "Voting has begun" for the Beanie Awards. This is true. WWII has begun, but it has also ended; as, I presume, has the Beanie Awards voting period.)

  46. Old News! by Anomalous+Canard · · Score: 3

    I mean, this happened like, last Thursday.
    Anomalous: inconsistent with or deviating from what is usual, normal, or expected

    --
    Anomalous: deviating from what is usual, normal, or expected
    Canard: a false or unfounded repor
    1. Re:Old News! by sparkes · · Score: 1

      Yeah it took Alan Cox Two days to get home and his website beat /.

      *** www.linuxuk.co.uk relaunches 1 Mar 2000 ***

  47. Test -- moderate down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My god -- does posting text-only actually work now?
    >>>>>>>>>>&&&&&&>&>

  48. System 12 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just curious, what ever happened to system 12?

  49. Re:Slashdot Gnome love-in continues by HomerG · · Score: 1

    "Most improved project? Gnome? Improved from crashing every second to crashing every other minute, I suppose."

    I use Gnome and I can't remember the last time it crashed. I must not be running any of the good stuff. What am I missing?

  50. Bluesteel: not just for Enlightenment anymore... by tuffy · · Score: 5
    I must admit, Bluesteel looks pretty nifty. It's got nice sharp corners and a neat shape to it. I actually went to the trouble of installing Enlightenment for it.

    Then I discovered that Enlightenment sucks.

    It ran slowly, used icons for things (ick), and made a general mess of my X session. I won't even get started on the customization menu ("transparent" window dragging? WTF?). Maybe somebody really loves Enlightenment, but that somebody is not me.

    So then I found Sawmill. Sawmill has the Bluesteel theme, and yet doesn't suck. It has no icons, has genuinely useful customization, and lets me attach a theme to as many or as few windows as I'd like. (I usually pick one xterm for Bluesteel, just cuz). So, I voted for Bluesteel anyway simply because Shinyblue wasn't available.

    Enlightenment may suck, but its prettiness can be ported...

    --

    Ita erat quando hic adveni.

  51. More pics! by GeorgieBoy · · Score: 1

    For even more pics, visit:
    http://www.penguinempire.com/linuxworld
    Mascotts, Alan Cox, and much of /. team in there.

  52. vim award goes to charity by Dicky · · Score: 4

    vim has always been 'Charityware' - if you use it, you are encouraged to make a donation towards a charity working with orphans in Uganda. On Friday, Bram Moolenaar announced on the vim mailing list that vim had won the award, and that the money would go to that charity.
    Which I think is pretty cool.

    --
    Paranoia isn't an infectious condition, it's a way of life
  53. beanie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the origin/significance of the beanie?

  54. Who were the nominees? (I missed it) by ToastyKen · · Score: 1

    I missed the voting, and now vote.pl only says that voting is over.

    I can't find a nominees list anyway. Someone want to help me out?

    Thanks.

  55. Back in your cage! by Esperandi · · Score: 1

    Open Source is about the users, not the programmers. It is about the community, 95% of which is users!

    Back in your cage and keep coding! You've got a "day job" for a reason! You chose to be passionate about coding, now the users are going to exploit it.

    Esperandi
    You've sold your soul to the GPL!

  56. Re:Slashdot Gnome love-in continues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Having been involved in hiring tigert to make brushedmetal for Red Hat for RH 6.0 I can promise you it was intended to be both a GNOME and E theme. Interesting how the 3 desktop categories RH has heavily sponsored (GNOME, E, and themes) won... I'd have a nick but then I'd be embarrassed that people knew I read slashdot.

  57. i took the pics on the xoom server by snerfu · · Score: 0

    my name is actually hankins, i go by snerfu though, wanted to let everyone know. i will keep taking more pictures so peace out.....

    1. Re:i took the pics on the xoom server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was it such a big thrill to see actual live women that you had to take a photo of each and every one, generally from behind? You're pathetic.

    2. Re:i took the pics on the xoom server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Peace in. Snerfuhankins, you need a class on photography.

    3. Re:i took the pics on the xoom server by snerfu · · Score: 1

      i have had a few classes. what can i say i didnt have much time to take those pictures and i had a pretty cheap digital camera. i think it really comes down to the fact that i am poor. yeah thats it. heh

  58. Re:Bluesteel: not just for Enlightenment anymore.. by Tarrant · · Score: 1
    Where exactly were these icons in Enlightenment? Are you thinking of Gnome or something?

    Also, about the transparent window dragging...if you don't like it, don't turn it on.

  59. Re:Bluesteel: not just for Enlightenment anymore.. by tuffy · · Score: 1
    Gnome? Bigger ick. I installed Enlightenment and minimized a window. An icon appeared on the screen in its place. If there's a way to change that behavior, I sure didn't find it in the sparse configuration options.

    Which is exactly why the transparent dragging was so annoying. Not because of the option itself, but because it probably took some deal of effort for a special effect of so little use. Give me speed and give me heavy-duty configuration over plain eye candy.

    That's what I'm ranting about, really.

    --

    Ita erat quando hic adveni.

  60. Vim ??? by Salsaman · · Score: 1

    Vim....vim....excuse me while I go and throw up...ah that's better :-)

  61. Re:Slashdot Gnome love-in continues by Arandir · · Score: 2

    Oh, I know it was intended to be Gnome theme. In fact, Redhat wanted Enlightenment to be a part of Gnome. I still remember the murmurs of disbelief travelling across the SVLUG attendees as Mandrake calmly announced that, no, Enlightenment was not Gnome.

    In any case, Gnome always stated that Gnome could be used with any windowmanager. That Redhat commissioned an Enlightenment theme to be used for Gnome appears to be self-deception.

    Interesting that Gnome started the work of replacing Imlib and finding a new WM just after Rasterman left Redhat.

    --
    A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
  62. Strange Quote: by Craig+Davison · · Score: 1
    http://kurt.andover.net/cgi-bin/picdexer.pl?pics/L inuxWorld2000/day0/12

    "So back in 1991 this guy Linux uploads a port of Minix to x86 on USENET and nine years later look what happens."

    See how many glaring errors you can find in that phrase.

  63. OPEN SOURCE AWARDS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i knew this would be a biased award process. that is why i took the liberty to run my own, completely unbiased, contest. unfortunately, all of my posts were moderated down to -1 and no longer appear when loading the archived pages... here are the real winners:


    Most Improved Open Source Project
    natalie portman

    Most Improved Kernel Module
    natalie portman

    Unsung Hero
    natalie portman

    Best Newbie Helper
    natalie portman

    Most Deserving Open Source Charity
    natalie portman

    Best Open Source Advocate
    natalie portman

    Best Unix Desktop Eyecandy
    natalie portman

    Best Unix Desktop Earcandy
    natalie portman

    Best Desktop Theme
    natalie portman

    Best Open Source-Related Book
    natalie portman

    Best Perl Module
    natalie portman

    Best Apache Module
    natalie portman

    Best Open Source Text Editor
    natalie portman

    Best Deserving of a $2,000 Award
    natalie portman

    Best Designed Interface in a Graphical Application
    natalie portman

    Best Designed Interface in a Non-Graphical Application
    natalie portman

    Best Dressed
    natalie portman

    Favorite Slashdot Comment Poster
    natalie portman

    Favorite Slashdot Author
    natalie portman

    Best Slashdot Story of 1999
    natalie portman

    Big Dumb Patent Bully
    natalie portman

    Big Dumb Domain Bully
    natalie portman

    Clue Stick Award for FUD in Journalism
    natalie portman

    The Hemos Award (only Hemos is eligible)
    natalie portman


    thank you.

    1. Re:OPEN SOURCE AWARDS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Best Dressed
      natalie portman


      Surely you mean 'best undressed'

  64. The women of FreeBSD by Brett+Glass · · Score: 1
    Actually, I nominated the original FreeBSD Daemon Girl (who showed up at the New York LinuxWorld in a skin-tight latex body suit) for "Best Dressed." Several times, in fact. But she was, for some reason, left off the ballot.

    It's sad to see that the FSF won an award for "most deserving charity." Not only is it not a charity (since it does not specifically help the needy or means-test its benefits, as an actual charity does), but it was also far and away the richest candidate already. What's more, it releases code under the GPL -- for the explicit purpose of hurting commercial programmers. A group whose stated purpose is malicious should not be rewarded.

    --Brett Glass

  65. Ask him a civil question by tilly · · Score: 1

    Seriously.

    Upon occasion I have needed to ask him direct questions or point things out. He has always answered me with direct, to the point, answers. Sure, they are short. But considering how many he must answer, I am astounded that he would continue to answer them.

    Additionally go look through the Perl documentation. Tom has been working on that for years. He still is. That is patience.

    As for being humble, if you ever find an occasion where Tom is wrong he admits it. Sincerely. Takes it to heart. Learns from it. Despite his many strongly-held positions, he has the humbleness to accept his mistakes and learn from them.

    OK, so he is an excellent programmer. His hubris and pride are obvious. But exactly as Larry said, he also manages to be humble and patient.

    It just isn't the sort of humbleness and patience that people would sometimes like to see from him...

    Cheers,
    Ben

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    My usual seat in the cluetrain is at A HREF="http://pub4.ezboard.com/biwethey.ht
  66. Re:Good God by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Real Geeks could actually kick the Slashdot wannabe geeks sorry asses from here to Hawaii. What pathetic losers.

  67. Sexism is not funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sexism has no place in the Open Source community. Would you have nominated Aunt Jemima or Uncle Ben? I don't think so. Exploitation and objectifying women isn't funny either. You owe an apology to all female geeks.

    1. Re:Sexism is not funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm not the original poster. I agree with you totally. Exploitation and objectifying women isn't funny. But, damn, it turns me on! Are you a woman?! Can I bend you over the toilet and love the shit out of you?! Please post your phone number if you're interested.

  68. And lacking a sense of fun isn't sexy. by Brett+Glass · · Score: 1
    There's nothing wrong with a cute or fantastic costume. You'd probably be absolutely horrified by the much more revealing costumes that many women -- often self-described geeks -- design for themselves and wear at science fiction conventions. And I doubt that you'd be willing to accept the notion that no one is forcing or paying them to do it, or that it's all in good fun.

    If you have no sense of fun, there's no use trying to explain this to you. But virtually everyone at both computer and science fiction conventions takes such costumes in the spirit in which they were intended, and the wearers generally get many compliments. As the daemon girls at the BSD booth all did.

    --Brett

  69. That's odd. by Robert+S+Gormley · · Score: 2
    I could have sworn the girl (or a person claiming to be her) made several comments on people mentioning her on the LWE article. If anything, she seemed flattered, not 'objectified'. I don't think she was 'ordered' or even 'asked' to wear latex. *shrug*

    Valium is good.

    --

    Open Source. Closed Minds. We are Slashdot.

  70. The GPL and personal hygeine by Brett+Glass · · Score: 1
    Is there a section in the GPL that says, you are not allowed to take a shower more than once a month?

    Maybe Stallman would consider it to be "hoarding" water.

    --Brett Glass

  71. Re:I can see at least two things wrong with it by Kurt+Gray · · Score: 1

    1. s/Linux/Linus/ (force of habit)

    2. He didn't upload the port -- he announced he was working on it.

    Perhaps you can enlighten me if there's something else.

  72. Re:I can see at least two things wrong with it by / · · Score: 1

    Wasn't minix already running on x86 and therefore Linus's version wasn't truly a "port"?

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  73. Re:whoopdy-doo by lunatik17 · · Score: 1

    Perhaps because the GIMP was responsible for introducing GTK, which is unquestionably very widely used and important. Nothing against Qt, but in the spirit of Open Source, it would be best to be using a completely and totally open widget set.

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    Here's my DeCSS mirror, where's yours?

  74. The Amazing Hemos Clam Trick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everytime I hear the name Hemos, I am reminded of a joke ad in an old copy of National Lampoon circa 1978. It was a spoof of the kinds of ads you see in the back of comic books. This one had a picture of a magician bending over and pulling a string of clams out of his ass. This was known as "The Amazing Hemos Clam Trick".

    Coincidence? I think not......

  75. NOT a troll by Felinoid · · Score: 1

    This never was a troll.. It was however off topic -1 before.. By being a little clever it becomes +3 funny...

    A troll seeks to make people mad...
    The "Hot grits" posts seek to make people laff
    they make people mad becouse they are OFF TOPIC.. Not becouse the post says anything offensive..

    Whats wrong with being a little off topic?
    Nothing much.. I am a little off topic now...
    But those "hot grits" posts were not "a little" off topic... they were TOTALLY off topic...

    However a spoof is allway cool... (unless it's done in poor tast... but thats a bit to subjective for my poor brain)
    Anyway this never was a troll.. it was just off topic... now it's a spoof....
    Being creative is a must when trying to be funny...

    Thank you.. and this concludes this rant :)

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  76. Somebody has to ask... by Eddie+the+Jedi · · Score: 2
    ...it was a good night, with lots of free beer... Do you meen 'free' as in free speech or 'free' as in free beer?

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  77. IT'S REAL!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a troll parade
    You know we have to do it
    We like to get out
    And make the children boo it

    Three Cheers for TROLLS!!!!
    HIP HIP HURRAY!!!
    HIP HIP HURRAY!!!
    HIP HIP HURRAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  78. Re:Bah by sparkes · · Score: 1

    'real men'(tm) think curses is for wimps, just shows how you are not a 'real man'.

    ahh fsuk it lets go the whole hog here 'real men' think that HEX is for wimps.

    sparkes

    *** www.linuxuk.co.uk relaunches 1 Mar 2000 ***

  79. um, ever heard of the word "asthetics" ? by semis · · Score: 1

    Sure, enlightenment might be eyecandy, but that's only because its completely configurable (look at its WM theme, thats certainly not eye-candy.)

    As for all its eye-candy effects, I feel that a nice theme like Bluesteel can really *improve* the asthetics of your desktop. What does asthetics have to do with anything? Well, to me (and alot of people I know), the asthetics of your desktop really play a part in how your desktop feels, and how you, as a user, feel towards your desktop.

    Simply, I nice looking X session makes me feel happier about the horrible piece of coding that I am about to tackle.

    1. Re:um, ever heard of the word "asthetics" ? by tuffy · · Score: 1
      (no one's likely to read this at this point, but...)

      I'm all for aesthetics. Give me pretty looking windows any day. I have tons of themes and they do a really nice job of making my desktop a happier place to be.

      The trouble is, Enlightenment does such a rotten job of it. Sawmill is much more configurable than Enlightenment is, uses a whole ton of the same themes and doesn't slow everything down in the process. It does a better job of being aesthetic and yet doesn't interfere with my work by being slow and unweildy.

      I don't dislike Enlightenment just for being pretty, I dislike it because it's a PITA to work with on a daily basis.

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      Ita erat quando hic adveni.

    2. Re:um, ever heard of the word "asthetics" ? by semis · · Score: 1

      (nobody is likely to read this either... but)

      did you know that E is actually *less* lines of code than WM? I know that I can't compare to sawmill (haven't looked), but I really beg to differ with this "e is so slow" stuff.

      E is as slow as you want to make it. Use a zillion trillion textures and I'm sure its going to slow down. I've never had a problem with E - I just don't understand where people are coming from with this "e is slow" stuff :/

      have you configured your imrc correctly?

      I.

    3. Re:um, ever heard of the word "asthetics" ? by tuffy · · Score: 1
      (probably just one more before they archive this article :)

      I haven't tried WM much myself, so I'll refrain from commenting on it. Slowness is all relative, of course. But I'm used to the speed of FVWM and FLWM. When I tried out E, just in the default configuration, my windows dragged slower at the same settings (opaque window moving and point to focus but not much else). Maybe it was just the Bluesteel theme I was using.

      But when I switched over to Sawmill, suddenly everything moved at FVWM speeds again with my old settings, but looked as good as E. And it was even more configurable! I was shocked, to say the least. This is all on a non-GNOME box, of course.

      But don't take my word for it. All it costs is a little of your time, so I recommend giving it a shot and judge for yourself. It's over at Sourceforge and always has the latest RPMs for easy installation/de-installation.

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      Ita erat quando hic adveni.

  80. Re:Most Stable Open Source Project? TEX!!!! by samuisan · · Score: 1
    TEX of course!!!!

    A certain Mr D. Knuth has laid down a yearly increasing prize to anyone who can find a bug in the Tex code. It's been there some years and so far as I know, no one has come up with one yet.

  81. The Truth Be Known by Bruce+Perens. · · Score: 0
    Not only are you absolutely 100% correct (which is mind-bogglingly insightful, I might add), but I rather think that I invented the idea of appending a period to well-known user's names. What do you think about that? You can check the UID #s if you don't believe me... But then, why wouldn't you?

    Sad? Clearly. Want to know why?

    This "Bruce Perens." copy was created as a test of how Karma is given out (think of it like Signal 11's test). Since Bruce is *always* moderated up when he posts, I figured I could go around spouting pure BS and get "Score 5: Insightfuls". (It's not like I needed the Karma, since I've got way more than I could ever burn off) And, I was quite sure that no one would notice either because, seriously, how often do you look at a posters name? If it looks like Bruce, and it sounds like Bruce -- it's probably Bruce. Or a Foogle.

    And it worked -- people were moderating me up and telling me what a great guy I was. Until the real Bruce saw the posts, and started replying with his "This is not me" posts. Then all my old posts were moderated down to "Score -1: Troll". I sent an anonymous mail to Bruce apologizing for any trouble I put him through and that was that.

    The "Foogle." idea was really twisted. I was really curious as to my own apparent character. Did people on Slashdot recognize my name? Did they remember my sig when they saw it? Did they hate me? Did they like me? It's not that I have such low self-esteem that it was bothering me; I was just kind of curious.

    So the test was, rather than asking people, to see how they would react to someone pretending to be me (and very obviously doing so).

    Bruce

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    Warning: I'm fake. Most of the stuff I post here is stupid. Use your head. Blah Blah Blah

  82. Re:I can see at least two things wrong with it by hob42 · · Score: 1

    My understanding is that is wasn't exactly a port, either. Linux was written from scratch, with different design philosophies even. It was inspired by Minix (or it's price, at least), but that's about it.

    -JuPo

  83. Vim yea! woo-woo! by Domini · · Score: 1

    And you ask: Whys vim, and not Xemacs?

    Xemacs tries to be too much, it's too big... and betting bigger. A great plus for vim is it's vi compatibility (although if you prefer notepad-like editors such as emacs, it can be set up to work simalarly)

    Emacs is a great news/mail reader amongst other things... yes. Pity this award went to 'Text editor'

    ;)