I don't know that's all it does, but I'm not stupid enough to make up conspiracy theories about what it hasn't been proved to do when quite frankly the theory is stupid in the first place.
I'm against them updating Firefox without telling you.
However, they're not exactly trying to 'force' much on you. It's not like they're installing Microsoft Bar.
Sure, it's a bad move on their part, but the panic level we see on slashdot (Some users claim it's Microsoft sabotaging the rendering engine! WHAT?) is ridiculous.
'They' refers to Sun. Java shouldn't fuck with Firefox. I have that stupid frakkin' Quick Starter and there's no way to uninstall it from the add-on pane either, similar to the MS add-on.
At least the MS plugin does something useful other than attempting to "maek ur javaz run fasterr"
Microsoft isn't trying to fuck up your web browser, they're enabling ClickOnce functionality via a plugin. You can tell what it's doing because it works exactly as is expected.
Conspiracy theories are not needed here. True, they should have enabled Uninstall, but jumping the gun is absolutely ridiculous.
Fucking up your ACID test via plugin in order to make IE seem better? Are you frakkin' serious? There's absolutely no possible way the community wouldn't notice that, and it'd be a ridiculous waste of time.
If I were Microsoft, I'd fire you for such a terrible idea.
You could say that, but the OP mentions reformatting a machine when it gets slow, which does no good if you reinstall the same programs. This is purely user error, and nothing Microsoft can fix.
Also, on the off-topic side, since you haven't given any real numbers for your boot times, it's hard to compare, but my Dell Inspiron 6400 can boot XP in under a minute, and it hasn't been upgraded at all. It's really not as bad as most people make it seem.
It's rather easy. You install an antivirus, and set them behind a router.
For most users, this isn't really a problem, considering they're not the kind to setup FTPs and allow people to connect random applications to them. MSN file transfers and the such will still work. For people who need port routing, they're probably smart enough to set it up.
The advantage is that if you set them up with a wireless router right away, then they can connect their laptop whenever it's convenient, and whenever their friends bring their own. They also have a few Ethernet jacks if they ever buy a second computer for their son or if it's required somehow.
It works fine on the Microsoft UI if you just download the driver instead of the whole package. But since Intel seemed to support more options than the MS one in the first place, I kept it.
You can let a Windows machine run for years without a reinstall. It does not magically get slower. It gets slower when people install applications that sit in the background, and that's the only thing formatting takes away.
There is no cost in keeping Windows updated. You can setup automatic updates and it'll be done for you, with no intervention except a reboot every month.
The choice for the average person is this: An OS that actually does the things they want, and does it reliably and fast, or an OS that sometimes doesn't do the things they want, and does it more reliably and just as fast.
Every platform has that. There are apps that aren't available on Windows, too,
But quite frankly, no one cares about those. For the average person, everything works on Windows (it better, it's the only OS they use), and _some_ things do not work on Linux.
If I installed Linux on the PCs of people I tech for, I wouldn't have a life anymore.
I already went through the process of teaching them how to use Windows, I'm not going through the one of teaching them how to compile applications from source if it's not in a repository. And that's an up-to-date opinion.
I don't think Microsoft trying to stop people using a single CD-Key and install them on 50 machines a bad move on their part.
That said, my entire networking class has been installing Windows on multiple VMs for 4 months now, and we've yet to run in trouble with activation issues. I think the 5 minute phone call isn't too much to ask, so we'll have to disagree.
Congratulations. Your anecdotal evidence is different than mine.
The thing is that mine proves that the system isn't as limited as you think. Yours imply everything will break if you put in a sound card, which is completely wrong.
Besides, if you didn't care about anecdotal evidence, why'd you post? Pfft.
I've never had a Windows installation disable itself or "stop working on purpose". Ever. And I've replaced my entire computer, reinstalled Windows on it (many times), and it activated flawlessly every time.
And on the extremely rare (never happened in 5 years) occasion where it does happen, a 5 minute phone call and you're done.
Your bug report will be ignored because it's not an issue.
I don't know that's all it does, but I'm not stupid enough to make up conspiracy theories about what it hasn't been proved to do when quite frankly the theory is stupid in the first place.
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I'm against them updating Firefox without telling you.
However, they're not exactly trying to 'force' much on you. It's not like they're installing Microsoft Bar.
Sure, it's a bad move on their part, but the panic level we see on slashdot (Some users claim it's Microsoft sabotaging the rendering engine! WHAT?) is ridiculous.
Next time, try reading the comments you reply to.
'They' refers to Sun. Java shouldn't fuck with Firefox. I have that stupid frakkin' Quick Starter and there's no way to uninstall it from the add-on pane either, similar to the MS add-on.
At least the MS plugin does something useful other than attempting to "maek ur javaz run fasterr"
And go right ahead and profile it. Don't forget your tinfoil hat. I'll bet my house nothing changes at all.
Microsoft isn't trying to fuck up your web browser, they're enabling ClickOnce functionality via a plugin. You can tell what it's doing because it works exactly as is expected.
Conspiracy theories are not needed here. True, they should have enabled Uninstall, but jumping the gun is absolutely ridiculous.
Fucking up your ACID test via plugin in order to make IE seem better? Are you frakkin' serious? There's absolutely no possible way the community wouldn't notice that, and it'd be a ridiculous waste of time.
If I were Microsoft, I'd fire you for such a terrible idea.
They still fuck around with stuff they shouldn't be fucking around with.
At least the Microsoft update gives me functionality I actually desire (ClickOnce).
Are you blind? The purpose of the plugin is written in the summary, the article, and in the plugin description.
You could say that, but the OP mentions reformatting a machine when it gets slow, which does no good if you reinstall the same programs. This is purely user error, and nothing Microsoft can fix.
Also, on the off-topic side, since you haven't given any real numbers for your boot times, it's hard to compare, but my Dell Inspiron 6400 can boot XP in under a minute, and it hasn't been upgraded at all. It's really not as bad as most people make it seem.
It's rather easy. You install an antivirus, and set them behind a router.
For most users, this isn't really a problem, considering they're not the kind to setup FTPs and allow people to connect random applications to them. MSN file transfers and the such will still work. For people who need port routing, they're probably smart enough to set it up.
The advantage is that if you set them up with a wireless router right away, then they can connect their laptop whenever it's convenient, and whenever their friends bring their own. They also have a few Ethernet jacks if they ever buy a second computer for their son or if it's required somehow.
You're making it harder than it really is.
It works fine on the Microsoft UI if you just download the driver instead of the whole package. But since Intel seemed to support more options than the MS one in the first place, I kept it.
You can let a Windows machine run for years without a reinstall. It does not magically get slower. It gets slower when people install applications that sit in the background, and that's the only thing formatting takes away.
There is no cost in keeping Windows updated. You can setup automatic updates and it'll be done for you, with no intervention except a reboot every month.
The choice for the average person is this: An OS that actually does the things they want, and does it reliably and fast, or an OS that sometimes doesn't do the things they want, and does it more reliably and just as fast.
Every platform has that. There are apps that aren't available on Windows, too,
But quite frankly, no one cares about those. For the average person, everything works on Windows (it better, it's the only OS they use), and _some_ things do not work on Linux.
I know reading the article isn't popular, and reading the summary sometimes isn't, but reading the comments you reply to should be mandatory.
HINT: I'm pretty sure a high-tech aerospace/electronics company falls under "Full of geeks".
Yes, I did.
It went like this: Launch setup.exe, wait until the install finishes (Intel drivers pretty much install with no intervention), setup a network, done.
And that's how it goes 99% of the time.
If I installed Linux on the PCs of people I tech for, I wouldn't have a life anymore.
I already went through the process of teaching them how to use Windows, I'm not going through the one of teaching them how to compile applications from source if it's not in a repository. And that's an up-to-date opinion.
Fucking Woosh.
Summary is misleading. Microsoft already delivered an OS that is faster than his previous one. It's called Windows Vista with SP1 installed.
Hell, there are a lot of end users that don't know if they are currently running XP or Vista (but you can tell by complaints about performance LOL).
Considering Vista beats XP in benchmarks, I'm gonna assume you meant if they complain, they're running XP?
I don't think Microsoft trying to stop people using a single CD-Key and install them on 50 machines a bad move on their part.
That said, my entire networking class has been installing Windows on multiple VMs for 4 months now, and we've yet to run in trouble with activation issues. I think the 5 minute phone call isn't too much to ask, so we'll have to disagree.
Congratulations. Your anecdotal evidence is different than mine.
The thing is that mine proves that the system isn't as limited as you think. Yours imply everything will break if you put in a sound card, which is completely wrong.
Besides, if you didn't care about anecdotal evidence, why'd you post? Pfft.
I've never had a Windows installation disable itself or "stop working on purpose". Ever. And I've replaced my entire computer, reinstalled Windows on it (many times), and it activated flawlessly every time.
And on the extremely rare (never happened in 5 years) occasion where it does happen, a 5 minute phone call and you're done.
Your bug report will be ignored because it's not an issue.
Woosh.
And because Google is definitely a common desktop user susceptible to botnets, anyway.
It's not a problem. They made it that way after seeing a lot of issues caused by the PAE addressing with several device drivers.
Woosh!
I do believe sir you need to get a sense of humor.
Frag is a term used in video games for kills. The parent obviously knows what it means in the real world.