I believe you are correct about declining values in 'this' country, we will just go ahead and assume America since mostly only Americans talk about "this" country and expect everyone else to know who it is:).
I do NOT think Free Software is the 'problem' I think parents are the problem.
Free Software and the belief that Music and such should be Free and the prolific use of Napster/gnutella I believe is a result of bad parenting.. Something is causing a decay of sorts and its not really the fact that its the things are available. They have always been available but the fact that it is more readily and easily avaialable due to advances in technology and the *DEMAND* for such things indicates more along my line of reasoning, it is the parents.
All things you think and say are learned expect for some very basic instinctual things such as breathing and eating.
This means of people have no morals then they are just not being taught them.
The mp3's and Free software are not a cause...
Yes.. Welcome to the *real* world. Where these young people NEVER wise up and they will teach even less to their own children. Maybe the instigators of Moral value(parents) need to wise up before reality hits them ehh?
Jeremy
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Is it me or does debian seem to be a tragic victim of the pace of OSS development.
I mean they put an extraordinary amount of detail and care into their distro and its very obvious... But at what cost given they have not produced any releases lately? I mean even dieheard debian fans have gotta be a little antsy for a real release.
Given: The 'beta' stuff or whatever they are releasing as their current development is probably a very usable system
Dont you guys kind of wanna see something just a lil newer? Hmmn just some random postulations.. back to stored procedure land
Jeremy
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Hmmn.. I figure it would be more entertaining To hack him dont you think??
I mean we can effectively deafen, blind him leaving his only sense left the internet
Just imagine that.. instead of having regular senses all you have is IE (AHHHH) and Media player for sound. hehe.. just wait for ILOVEYOU to come to you:)
Hmmn Jeremy
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Interbase has some very awesome features. The overview took the tone of a semi marketing type item yet it was infomrative and if you read through some of the garbage its rather clear to see as a programmer/developer what Interbase offers.
Some of the features that stuck out in my mind from the over view.
-Small memory footprint -Triggers -Stored Procedures -User Definable Functions with some 'libraries' per say already defined for math and string handling -Alert events EX:A certain item goes below xyz dollars it can send an alert using some sort of constant polling method. I am not sure exactly what this one was.. but basically it looks like whenever changes are done to the table if certain criteria are met it can call up a stored proc/UDF or something. This is a bit more powerful than a trigger or a stored procedure since you do not have to do any speical coding on a insert/update/delete.
Some other interesting things... There was a *LOAD* of case studies on the interbase site.
B) Preemptive strike against those saying that new CPUs are useless. Go run 3D Studio on you Pentium-60 and then come back begging for forgiveness
That argument still seems a bit week.
Lets see.. I run Photoshop on the lower power 1Gig Athlon. Then I go run it on a 1.3Gig willamette... Am I going to SEE that much of a difference? I mean im all for more power and more bandwidth, But I mean were not even coming CLOSE to doing 10times the speeds now or nothing. A move from a p60 to a k7-1000 thats an event. A move from a k7-1000 to a willamette Is that such a big deal? Really? Gee quake runs at 150fps not 130fps now.....? Point? I paid for the willamette with my firstborn and now my photo shop filters run 10% faster! Well pat yourself on the back there.
Hmmn.. I just dont see how that argument is relevant. Granted I STILL want speeds to increase I just dont think that its going to be such a ground shaking change... The numbers the big ones are no longer so exciting. Oh yay I got a 2gighz chip.. Its just lost some of its excitement and or use becuase now you run into people with systems that do everything they want and have enough computing power to do so in the near future (Given Software doesnt get to much slower.....)
Jeremy
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Okay I have been on slashdot crap I dont know a long while. Using linux way longer and I really believe in the push behind FreeBSD, and a few really good Linux Distro's I prefer to use.
Ive stuck a DNS server and even a qmail server up when a Linux box was just perfect for it and we did not want to pay anything for our software (DNS and mail for a 20 person office on a p5-133 with 128MB of ram), its great for that.
I DO NOT use it as my Desktop at home. I have two FreeBSD boxes sitting here, I run an X server to play with a few xterms and do my Mud Programming in KDeveloper or whatever and just display it on my windows machine.
The point Im getting at may seem vague but Here goes.
People who know enough to do that kind of setup and or even brave enough to use a *nix for their desktop are just so few and far between I do not see why you people find it disappointing a company is porting a game?
Disappointing it took to long to port a game to the lowest percentage of the market were talking 10% of ppl MIGHT use Linux or their only desktop.
And yet I see people complaining...? What is up with that I think what has happened within the Linux community is something really awesome.
Linux got the respect of one of the most well known gaming companies and got a Simultaneous!! Port of the thing
OH no that was not good enough the small 10% or less of the gaming market wants EVERY game??? Its just not going to work people, I do not know why you find it disappointing a company decided to do *anything* For linux. Its good stuff and shows that they respect the platform even a little. And oh my god SO what, you have to use windows to play a video game its not like its a sin.
I Bought the windows version of QIII and I will continue to buy games in windows only. Why? I work closer to 50 hours a week and do not feel like sitting down trying to fiddle with drivers for my G400 for half a day just to play a Game that installs and just works on my windows machine.
Okay so maybe if I were more proficient at setting up a machine it would not be so bad but EVERYONE has to learn how to cinfigure a system in order to do it fast and its just not something I have time for
I play QIII as a distraction not something to make me crazier trying to get it to run at a decent framerate... anyways
Thats just a minor point on top of the larger issue of why I use windows and why I think windows is always going to be around.
I love my Unix machines but I cant bring myself to converting my desktop machine to a Unix box so I cant bring myself to see why such a minority of people are complaning so much.
Yes I realize the reasons are not related but I just wonder why people find they can complain. Not everyone does but enough people do to make it kind of annoying. Its why Linux community has this kind of elite feel to it.. anyhow
Jeremy
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Right on, People are holding onto Mozilla for dear life. Why dont we have a browser yet? Oh well you can write an arcade game emulator in the new platform we have developed *CHOKE* and how does this help your browsers market share? JUST HOW!?!#@$?!#?$. *sigh* Back to cross browser code.. IE is going to leave Mozilla in the dust. Sadly because neither browser has a compliant DOM and never will IMO.
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No no.. you combine this with the MS attention span stuff;) You know just whip your head rapidly around and it turns the radio back down then it can hear voice commands.
Altho... People around you may be slightly unnerved if you turned it to active driving mode where the car kind of steered wherever you were looking, if you are a Guy you would mow down the first pretty woman walking down the street:P hehe
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Maybe its Trollaxors english paper and he wants to get feedback on it.. its rather creative if thats true
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I agree.. I have never seen anything other than some mild talking about stories from k5 being linked to/.
It is totally unfair of slashdot to say things negatively like that to them.. Thats not really nice/. How would you like it if people went around saying/. readers and staff set upt he site to habitate a bunch of linux eliteists? Hmmn wait.. PEOPLE DO think that and you wonder why? I dont believe it but it does not change peoples perceptions a lot of the time
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I can see the good nature of your post.. but it seems a little elitist as... this.
Since you can obviously spot people who are non intelligent and intelligent, and you imply you understand a lot of things since you can tell when someone responds who understands how to run a business versus somoene who does not..
That comes off as really kinda hypocritical.
Yes of course most slashdot people are under 30 computer hackers and insane people who drive the technology industry, NOT businessmen in most cases.. Okay yeah some people are but.. People can only learn of people teach or we learn by our mistakes.. So in your opinion couldnt you help point out some of our failings instead of just say wow someone finally gets it?????
I mean.. This is kinda uncharted terrotity someones gotta try it, most of us are just young guys who can program computers not run a business and <SARCASM>take over the world like we want..</SARCASM> Mind helping out a bit since you know so much?
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Thanks, I understand the concept is hard to wrap ones mind around in a single session or anything but making some keynotes and just showing some of the general slcikness/cool points to a functional language with some well written code would still be really cool, like some really common routines such as the quicksort comparison I found, but some more in depth stuff would be awesome..
Really from what I have read im interested enough to start figuring out a functional language.. problem is a lot of these examples are written by research type people and the examples tend to assume you have a lot of knowledge:) anyways I appreciate some of the well informed posts ive seen running around here... This was a facet of programming I almost ever looked at in this light before;) Thaanks
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LoL I have really enjoyed reading your posts.. It really reminds me of the passion people pursue Linux. Like its REALLY GREAT!! Yet with Java its like yeah its been pushed hard on us, its an okay language I have fun hacking it.. But wow... not being sarcastic the few people who have really experienced functional programming languages seem very passionate about it.. That inspired me to dnwload hugs and play around with one.. Im not sure what the heck im doing in there but I will probably be checking it out over the next few months
So.. honestly I appreciate you just posting.. There something to be said about a idea, concept, or just anything that can inspire this kinda fire in comptuer junkies.. I think EVERYONE just needs to take note of that, something is causing it just like something causes us to all get fired up over Linux? Maybe we should all buckle down and wrap our brains around it just a little?
I mean From what I KNOW its a Major pain to really learn to write good OO code in C++.. I am JUST now getting real good after almost 3 years of hacking C++, and I just now am out of making my programs look like hackish C programs... its complex so yeah Functional may be complex but no worse than the learning curve that Ive been thru im willing to bet.. More than one person has stated it is not.
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Haskell Monads.. and it kind of mentions the fact that even though they are purely functional (whatever the heck that means) are still written like most any imperative code.. I was looking at some code snippets where it talked about that and its true I mean.. some things are going to have an imperative look to them no matter what just due to the nature of PC hardware.. Unless you really abstract stuff... but you lose just to much control IMO
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Support ? Well with the biggest software company in the world behind them, You can be hell sure about the kind of support you get for C#. You missed what he meant by support....
He means support for an individual program written in Haskell
He means tons of nicely written tools to work with a language
The "support" of the entire industry not just MS, yes they DO make a difference you better believe it but C# is kind of like an anomoly to his anologies.
It is a bad idea we all know it its just hard to stop it. PHB's will see it oggle over it and force people to use it based on a whim in some cases
BUTT the point is at some point sensibility takes in and languages that are usable HAVE to be used or projects just will cease to be and im sure many programmers armed with shotguns have informed management of this......
Anyways, dont underestimate the torture MS can put an industry through... THEY ARE a monopoly its been proven in court....so be wary of so easily dismissing C# but also we cant take it seriously:) just have to be ready to put it down when the time arises
Jeremy
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Supposing the thoughts of one developer of software matters here goes..
No matter how hard MS Push C# I will not spend ANY time learning it. I will know what it can DO but no I will not learn it since I dont really think its a tool worth learning to use to accomplish any particular job.
I will stick with Java as I happen to like Java a lot more than the bastardized feeling C# gives me every time I peek at the reference manual
Again I am one person but Java is more tried than C# and it happens to be pretty nice, blow it away for the memory hogging it does go ahead it needs work still... BUT its finally gaining a lot of recognition and some serious companies are doing some major work with it
Allaire to just name one company that does not have Java at its business core.
They do JRun and they are gonna make ColdFusion compile to bytecode
Thats a little off from my raqnt about C# the point is Its a tool that is not going to accomplish any job better than stuff out there and no one is going to really use it for a lot of serious stuff.
Jeremy
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Yeah,:) rofl im busted, but it would work for that kind of system if it just wanted any ole finger print. And I do believe ive seen some advertisements in like popular science for some garbage like that
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Excuse the heck out of me, I suppose I did not *WATCH* them feed this into the damn machine and it pull up the fingerprint
The LIC does store fingerprints. *looks at his lic*
IT IS NOT magnetic either, I can be certain because the device used optics to read the information.
It looks like a majorly condensed barcode all scrambled up. It is more than a magnetic strip.
It does not store the picture I take that back but I you take a fingerprint scan at the time of your LIC.
So yes im sure a lot of stupid people believe that for a good reason, it is true.
Mysteriously mine was scratched up and now the readers cant seem to read it.. hmmn I dont know just HOW it got scratched;-(
Also just to save people the trouble from calling me stupid or implying it... again, I know that my Lic being scratched does me absolutely no good anyways.
Just a little side note.. Looking over the strip part that is still somewhat 'readable' There are at least 220+ distinc 'columns' of varying width and at least like 30 rows, probably more and lets see we are talking probably just something similar to a coordinate system so a bunch of sets of numbers, 3-4 numbers per set to map out a fingerprint?? I dont really know but I know compression is no secret and you can squeeze 10K of data on the back of this card pretty easily by my guessing. Have you ever seen a small GIF? Anyways.
Jeremy
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Then they are even more cool than I thought :) I just saw that it was a cool feature and tried my best to relate it in my words :) Thanks!
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This is ripe for trolling/flaming.. :-)
:).
However I will make an intelligible reply.
I believe you are correct about declining values in 'this' country, we will just go ahead and assume America since mostly only Americans talk about "this" country and expect everyone else to know who it is
I do NOT think Free Software is the 'problem' I think parents are the problem.
Free Software and the belief that Music and such should be Free and the prolific use of Napster/gnutella I believe is a result of bad parenting.. Something is causing a decay of sorts and its not really the fact that its the things are available. They have always been available but the fact that it is more readily and easily avaialable due to advances in technology and the *DEMAND* for such things indicates more along my line of reasoning, it is the parents.
All things you think and say are learned expect for some very basic instinctual things such as breathing and eating.
This means of people have no morals then they are just not being taught them.
The mp3's and Free software are not a cause...
Yes.. Welcome to the *real* world. Where these young people NEVER wise up and they will teach even less to their own children. Maybe the instigators of Moral value(parents) need to wise up before reality hits them ehh?
Jeremy
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Is it me or does debian seem to be a tragic victim of the pace of OSS development.
I mean they put an extraordinary amount of detail and care into their distro and its very obvious... But at what cost given they have not produced any releases lately? I mean even dieheard debian fans have gotta be a little antsy for a real release.
Given: The 'beta' stuff or whatever they are releasing as their current development is probably a very usable system
Dont you guys kind of wanna see something just a lil newer? Hmmn just some random postulations.. back to stored procedure land
Jeremy
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Hmmn.. I figure it would be more entertaining
:)
To hack him dont you think??
I mean we can effectively deafen, blind him leaving his only sense left the internet
Just imagine that.. instead of having regular senses all you have is IE (AHHHH) and Media player for sound. hehe.. just wait for ILOVEYOU to come to you
Hmmn Jeremy
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Among other apps.. I know that KDE installed to /opt as a default at some point on one of my systems :-D. It was not *that* bad.
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I found myself wondering exactly what Interbase could do for me
So I dug through their site (not hard to find) and found this lil gem
Interbase Product Overview
Interbase has some very awesome features. The overview took the tone of a semi marketing type item yet it was infomrative and if you read through some of the garbage its rather clear to see as a programmer/developer what Interbase offers.
Some of the features that stuck out in my mind from the over view.
-Small memory footprint
-Triggers
-Stored Procedures
-User Definable Functions with some 'libraries' per say already defined for math and string handling
-Alert events
EX:A certain item goes below xyz dollars it can send an alert using some sort of constant polling method. I am not sure exactly what this one was.. but basically it looks like whenever changes are done to the table if certain criteria are met it can call up a stored proc/UDF or something. This is a bit more powerful than a trigger or a stored procedure since you do not have to do any speical coding on a insert/update/delete.
Some other interesting things... There was a *LOAD* of case studies on the interbase site.
Case Studies
I looked at some of these and they were real industry proven case studies IMO.
Its Free.. and it has a good reputation
You can buy support for it
It appears to be VERY ANSI Compliant and supports all the trappings of MS SQL Server..
It also claimed to be self optimizing... anyways hope this provided a little information.
Jeremy
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B) Preemptive strike against those saying that new CPUs are useless. Go run 3D Studio on you Pentium-60 and then come back begging for forgiveness
That argument still seems a bit week.
Lets see.. I run Photoshop on the lower power 1Gig Athlon. Then I go run it on a 1.3Gig willamette... Am I going to SEE that much of a difference? I mean im all for more power and more bandwidth, But I mean were not even coming CLOSE to doing 10times the speeds now or nothing. A move from a p60 to a k7-1000 thats an event. A move from a k7-1000 to a willamette Is that such a big deal? Really? Gee quake runs at 150fps not 130fps now.....? Point? I paid for the willamette with my firstborn and now my photo shop filters run 10% faster! Well pat yourself on the back there.
Hmmn.. I just dont see how that argument is relevant. Granted I STILL want speeds to increase I just dont think that its going to be such a ground shaking change... The numbers the big ones are no longer so exciting. Oh yay I got a 2gighz chip.. Its just lost some of its excitement and or use becuase now you run into people with systems that do everything they want and have enough computing power to do so in the near future (Given Software doesnt get to much slower.....)
Jeremy
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Okay I have been on slashdot crap I dont know a long while. Using linux way longer and I really believe in the push behind FreeBSD, and a few really good Linux Distro's I prefer to use.
Ive stuck a DNS server and even a qmail server up when a Linux box was just perfect for it and we did not want to pay anything for our software (DNS and mail for a 20 person office on a p5-133 with 128MB of ram), its great for that.
I DO NOT use it as my Desktop at home. I have two FreeBSD boxes sitting here, I run an X server to play with a few xterms and do my Mud Programming in KDeveloper or whatever and just display it on my windows machine.
The point Im getting at may seem vague but Here goes.
People who know enough to do that kind of setup and or even brave enough to use a *nix for their desktop are just so few and far between I do not see why you people find it disappointing a company is porting a game?
Disappointing it took to long to port a game to the lowest percentage of the market were talking 10% of ppl MIGHT use Linux or their only desktop.
And yet I see people complaining...? What is up with that I think what has happened within the Linux community is something really awesome.
Linux got the respect of one of the most well known gaming companies and got a Simultaneous!! Port of the thing
OH no that was not good enough the small 10% or less of the gaming market wants EVERY game??? Its just not going to work people, I do not know why you find it disappointing a company decided to do *anything* For linux. Its good stuff and shows that they respect the platform even a little. And oh my god SO what, you have to use windows to play a video game its not like its a sin.
I Bought the windows version of QIII and I will continue to buy games in windows only. Why? I work closer to 50 hours a week and do not feel like sitting down trying to fiddle with drivers for my G400 for half a day just to play a Game that installs and just works on my windows machine.
Okay so maybe if I were more proficient at setting up a machine it would not be so bad but EVERYONE has to learn how to cinfigure a system in order to do it fast and its just not something I have time for
I play QIII as a distraction not something to make me crazier trying to get it to run at a decent framerate... anyways
Thats just a minor point on top of the larger issue of why I use windows and why I think windows is always going to be around.
I love my Unix machines but I cant bring myself to converting my desktop machine to a Unix box so I cant bring myself to see why such a minority of people are complaning so much.
Yes I realize the reasons are not related but I just wonder why people find they can complain. Not everyone does but enough people do to make it kind of annoying. Its why Linux community has this kind of elite feel to it.. anyhow
Jeremy
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Right on, People are holding onto Mozilla for dear life. Why dont we have a browser yet? Oh well you can write an arcade game emulator in the new platform we have developed *CHOKE* and how does this help your browsers market share? JUST HOW!?!#@$?!#?$. *sigh* Back to cross browser code.. IE is going to leave Mozilla in the dust. Sadly because neither browser has a compliant DOM and never will IMO.
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There is a new Microsoft bug in IIS.
.+htr to the end of the .cfm file and you can view the ColdFusion source... Ouch..
:)
Go to any website you know of that uses ColdFusion. Add
That is why you encrypt any production code
Sorry to not make this article more informative by providing the link on how to fix it its real simple.. Heres a link
Microsoft Security Bulletin
This article covers yet another new DoS attack and also discusses the file fragment thing I just shared
No joke its ugly...
Jeremy
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No no.. you combine this with the MS attention span stuff ;) You know just whip your head rapidly around and it turns the radio back down then it can hear voice commands.
:P hehe
Altho... People around you may be slightly unnerved if you turned it to active driving mode where the car kind of steered wherever you were looking, if you are a Guy you would mow down the first pretty woman walking down the street
Jeremy
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Maybe its Trollaxors english paper and he wants to get feedback on it.. its rather creative if thats true
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I agree.. I have never seen anything other than some mild talking about stories from k5 being linked to /.
/. How would you like it if people went around saying /. readers and staff set upt he site to habitate a bunch of linux eliteists? Hmmn wait.. PEOPLE DO think that and you wonder why? I dont believe it but it does not change peoples perceptions a lot of the time
It is totally unfair of slashdot to say things negatively like that to them.. Thats not really nice
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Just like someone said! ROFLMAO!! I WISH I ahd written the post down it was modded high tho
:P
Someone said oh boy I cant wait for Katz comparison to how computer geeks are treated like the X-Men are
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I was being sarcastic.. we all know just Sun, Oracle and MSFT want to take over the world ;)
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I can see the good nature of your post.. but it seems a little elitist as... this.
Since you can obviously spot people who are non intelligent and intelligent, and you imply you understand a lot of things since you can tell when someone responds who understands how to run a business versus somoene who does not..
That comes off as really kinda hypocritical.
Yes of course most slashdot people are under 30 computer hackers and insane people who drive the technology industry, NOT businessmen in most cases.. Okay yeah some people are but.. People can only learn of people teach or we learn by our mistakes.. So in your opinion couldnt you help point out some of our failings instead of just say wow someone finally gets it?????
I mean.. This is kinda uncharted terrotity someones gotta try it, most of us are just young guys who can program computers not run a business and <SARCASM>take over the world like we want..</SARCASM> Mind helping out a bit since you know so much?
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Thanks, I understand the concept is hard to wrap ones mind around in a single session or anything but making some keynotes and just showing some of the general slcikness/cool points to a functional language with some well written code would still be really cool, like some really common routines such as the quicksort comparison I found, but some more in depth stuff would be awesome..
:) anyways I appreciate some of the well informed posts ive seen running around here... This was a facet of programming I almost ever looked at in this light before ;) Thaanks
Really from what I have read im interested enough to start figuring out a functional language.. problem is a lot of these examples are written by research type people and the examples tend to assume you have a lot of knowledge
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LoL I have really enjoyed reading your posts..
It really reminds me of the passion people pursue Linux. Like its REALLY GREAT!!
Yet with Java its like yeah its been pushed hard on us, its an okay language I have fun hacking it.. But wow... not being sarcastic the few people who have really experienced functional programming languages seem very passionate about it.. That inspired me to dnwload hugs and play around with one.. Im not sure what the heck im doing in there but I will probably be checking it out over the next few months
So.. honestly I appreciate you just posting.. There something to be said about a idea, concept, or just anything that can inspire this kinda fire in comptuer junkies.. I think EVERYONE just needs to take note of that, something is causing it just like something causes us to all get fired up over Linux? Maybe we should all buckle down and wrap our brains around it just a little?
I mean From what I KNOW its a Major pain to really learn to write good OO code in C++.. I am JUST now getting real good after almost 3 years of hacking C++, and I just now am out of making my programs look like hackish C programs... its complex so yeah Functional may be complex but no worse than the learning curve that Ive been thru im willing to bet.. More than one person has stated it is not.
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Haskell Monads.. and it kind of mentions the fact that even though they are purely functional (whatever the heck that means) are still written like most any imperative code.. I was looking at some code snippets where it talked about that and its true I mean.. some things are going to have an imperative look to them no matter what just due to the nature of PC hardware.. Unless you really abstract stuff... but you lose just to much control IMO
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Support ? Well with the biggest software company in the world behind them, You can be hell sure about the kind of support you get for C#.
:) just have to be ready to put it down when the time arises
You missed what he meant by support....
He means support for an individual program written in Haskell
He means tons of nicely written tools to work with a language
The "support" of the entire industry not just MS, yes they DO make a difference you better believe it but C# is kind of like an anomoly to his anologies.
It is a bad idea we all know it its just hard to stop it. PHB's will see it oggle over it and force people to use it based on a whim in some cases
BUTT the point is at some point sensibility takes in and languages that are usable HAVE to be used or projects just will cease to be and im sure many programmers armed with shotguns have informed management of this......
Anyways, dont underestimate the torture MS can put an industry through... THEY ARE a monopoly its been proven in court....so be wary of so easily dismissing C# but also we cant take it seriously
Jeremy
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Supposing the thoughts of one developer of software matters here goes..
No matter how hard MS Push C# I will not spend ANY time learning it. I will know what it can DO but no I will not learn it since I dont really think its a tool worth learning to use to accomplish any particular job.
I will stick with Java as I happen to like Java a lot more than the bastardized feeling C# gives me every time I peek at the reference manual
Again I am one person but Java is more tried than C# and it happens to be pretty nice, blow it away for the memory hogging it does go ahead it needs work still... BUT its finally gaining a lot of recognition and some serious companies are doing some major work with it
Allaire to just name one company that does not have Java at its business core.
They do JRun and they are gonna make ColdFusion compile to bytecode
Thats a little off from my raqnt about C# the point is Its a tool that is not going to accomplish any job better than stuff out there and no one is going to really use it for a lot of serious stuff.
Jeremy
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Yeah, :) rofl im busted, but it would work for that kind of system if it just wanted any ole finger print. And I do believe ive seen some advertisements in like popular science for some garbage like that
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Hehehhe, thanks :)
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Excuse the heck out of me, I suppose I did not *WATCH* them feed this into the damn machine and it pull up the fingerprint
;-(
The LIC does store fingerprints. *looks at his lic*
IT IS NOT magnetic either, I can be certain because the device used optics to read the information.
It looks like a majorly condensed barcode all scrambled up. It is more than a magnetic strip.
It does not store the picture I take that back but I you take a fingerprint scan at the time of your LIC.
So yes im sure a lot of stupid people believe that for a good reason, it is true.
Mysteriously mine was scratched up and now the readers cant seem to read it.. hmmn I dont know just HOW it got scratched
Also just to save people the trouble from calling me stupid or implying it... again, I know that my Lic being scratched does me absolutely no good anyways.
Just a little side note.. Looking over the strip part that is still somewhat 'readable' There are at least 220+ distinc 'columns' of varying width and at least like 30 rows, probably more and lets see we are talking probably just something similar to a coordinate system so a bunch of sets of numbers, 3-4 numbers per set to map out a fingerprint?? I dont really know but I know compression is no secret and you can squeeze 10K of data on the back of this card pretty easily by my guessing. Have you ever seen a small GIF? Anyways.
Jeremy
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To the poster who said wear gloves, a finger print is required (just use a fake finger print)
:-\
I just wanted to make a comment, Here in Georgia, finger prints are mandantory when you get your driver lic.
Its all encoded into a bar strip on the back, everything, your finger print a digital picture...
To late to stop the national database thing huh?
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