Why should the govt care so much about "disarming citizens"? The President gave himself the right to assassinate citizens and none of the stalwart defenders of the Second Amendment rose a finger. Just stop pretending that it is about freedom already, you just want the guns.
I see many here quoting the Koran. Thing is, just like with most Christians, Muslims don't have the faintest clue of what their Holy Book prescribe, and when they do they just "interpret" it in whatever way fits the social context they where born in.
Now, don't get me wrong. Nutty aggressive foaming violent morons ARE a problem, and I do want to see less religion and more education in the world.
But I do have Muslim friends, I had Muslim girlfriends and they have nothing to do with what you see on the TV. Many, many Muslims are secular, drink alcohol, fuck liberally and don't wear any headscarf and in general adhere to their religion just as our local Christians do.
Violence and fundamentalism are bred by lack of education, the specific flavor of religion is not that relevant.
This is insanely bad. You are moving the control from "the guys back at the precinct" to whoever controls the superstitious doctrine.
If rather than "don't steal the cookie" you tell the kids "beat the shit out of those who question my authority" what will the kids of the experiment do?
I am a "vegetarian" and I'd have no problems with it, because, as you point, it wouldn't change the slightest my impact on the environment. Many lazy vegetarians like me just don't buy meat, but have no problems eating it if they are offered or in general does not support the industry. Others eat meat only once per month so that they can spend into quality, sustainable stuff and enjoy it more.
Jobs wanted to sell stuff, and he managed to do that. Torvalds wanted to write an awesome kernel, and he did that brilliantly. Even if they have the same assholeness, they also have different goals.
A step closer to dictatorship... Where are all the 2nd Amendment stalwart protectors now, those bastions of freedom? Where are those who need their guns to rise in arms against a tyrannical government? Where are those explaining that the first thing that a dictatorship does is to take away your guns?
How much do I have to wait, how far will this go, before I see them putting their money where their mouth is?
1) The obsession with the Founding Fathers. Can't you just decide what is best for you NOW without trying to interpret their words as if it was the Bible?
2) The obsession for violent ousting of a tyrant. You like guns, you want guns, you know... it's ok. But don't go around telling bullshit about rising in arms against a tyrannical government. Your President can order arrest, torture and assassination of any US citizens. What about the Patriot Act? What about all the propaganda, all the lies? They just scream "Terror! Think of the children! Jump!" and you ask "How high?" Your gun in hand, you are just waiting for your dear government to tell you where to shoot. Do you really, seriously think that the government is afraid of your guns? So stop deceiving yourself, the time to rise in arms is passed, you don't give a shit about freedom, you just want the guns and possibly someone to shoot.
...it is a matter of allowing the parents to mourn their kids.
One thing is free speech, one thing is disruption. As a rabid atheist, I wouldn't go in a church and scream that they believe bullshit. This has nothing to do with free speech.
There should be some protection for those who want to mourn their dead. If the law does not provide, the citizens usually must take initiative, forcing the law to follow.
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You must be a philosopher.
Indeed, it is apparently hard for True Believers to accept that most atheists do not agree 100% with what their "prophets" write or say.
Like the Tea Parties and II amendment nuts?
Oh, what, they are not in an Al-Queda camp.
What makes you think, exactly, that it was "drastic"?
Why should the govt care so much about "disarming citizens"?
The President gave himself the right to assassinate citizens and none of the stalwart defenders of the Second Amendment rose a finger.
Just stop pretending that it is about freedom already, you just want the guns.
Enrico Fermi was an immigrant.
Is it me or Star Wars is sounding more and more like Windows?
I see many here quoting the Koran.
Thing is, just like with most Christians, Muslims don't have the faintest clue of what their Holy Book prescribe, and when they do they just "interpret" it in whatever way fits the social context they where born in.
Now, don't get me wrong. Nutty aggressive foaming violent morons ARE a problem, and I do want to see less religion and more education in the world.
But I do have Muslim friends, I had Muslim girlfriends and they have nothing to do with what you see on the TV.
Many, many Muslims are secular, drink alcohol, fuck liberally and don't wear any headscarf and in general adhere to their religion just as our local Christians do.
Violence and fundamentalism are bred by lack of education, the specific flavor of religion is not that relevant.
And yet their healthcare is still better than the one in the US...
Go figure.
You obviously have never tried to publish a scientific paper.
Most of the stuff above is made or paid for by the authors themselves.
Yup.
Humans are humans everywhere, and Istanbul night life is awesome.
Thanks for this post.
Iran.
I am sure that the Evangelical nuts will be happy to see that they are together with Iran and Turkey.
As an European slashdotter, I think that those laws are stupid and harmful.
Turkey tried badly to separate religion from politics, and it was one one the most secular Islamic country.
It appears that they are failing.
Women in Istanbul are taking back the veil as sign of political support to the conservative party.
This is insanely bad.
You are moving the control from "the guys back at the precinct" to whoever controls the superstitious doctrine.
If rather than "don't steal the cookie" you tell the kids "beat the shit out of those who question my authority" what will the kids of the experiment do?
Not even close, indeed.
Just closer.
I am a "vegetarian" and I'd have no problems with it, because, as you point, it wouldn't change the slightest my impact on the environment.
Many lazy vegetarians like me just don't buy meat, but have no problems eating it if they are offered or in general does not support the industry.
Others eat meat only once per month so that they can spend into quality, sustainable stuff and enjoy it more.
That speaking (what you genuinely think is) the truth offends people, is a sign that we gave special treatment to religious ideas for too long. -_-
This would imply that there are true religions.
Jobs wanted to sell stuff, and he managed to do that.
Torvalds wanted to write an awesome kernel, and he did that brilliantly.
Even if they have the same assholeness, they also have different goals.
I do agree with everything you say.
The fact that my sarcasm is not taken as such is even more troubling.
A step closer to dictatorship...
Where are all the 2nd Amendment stalwart protectors now, those bastions of freedom?
Where are those who need their guns to rise in arms against a tyrannical government?
Where are those explaining that the first thing that a dictatorship does is to take away your guns?
How much do I have to wait, how far will this go, before I see them putting their money where their mouth is?
This assumes that the govt officials are not in the corporation's pockets and have the taxpayers best interests at heart.
Are you that naive?
I don't really understand two things of the US:
1) The obsession with the Founding Fathers.
Can't you just decide what is best for you NOW without trying to interpret their words as if it was the Bible?
2) The obsession for violent ousting of a tyrant.
You like guns, you want guns, you know... it's ok.
But don't go around telling bullshit about rising in arms against a tyrannical government.
Your President can order arrest, torture and assassination of any US citizens.
What about the Patriot Act?
What about all the propaganda, all the lies?
They just scream "Terror! Think of the children! Jump!" and you ask "How high?"
Your gun in hand, you are just waiting for your dear government to tell you where to shoot.
Do you really, seriously think that the government is afraid of your guns?
So stop deceiving yourself, the time to rise in arms is passed, you don't give a shit about freedom, you just want the guns and possibly someone to shoot.
...it is a matter of allowing the parents to mourn their kids.
One thing is free speech, one thing is disruption.
As a rabid atheist, I wouldn't go in a church and scream that they believe bullshit.
This has nothing to do with free speech.
There should be some protection for those who want to mourn their dead.
If the law does not provide, the citizens usually must take initiative, forcing the law to follow.