wait until OS X gets enough market share for these vulnerabilities to be bought, sold and used to compromise computers en masse.
Apple sells over five million new systems each year. There are probably about 20 or 25 million systems running Mac OS X right now. The financial incentive to exploit Mac OS X has been plenty high enough for a long time.
Botnets are rentable, and people peek at the prices now and then and report on it. I've seen numbers like this several times:
going rate for botnets:
the going rate is around the USD$1,000 per hour for as many as 30,000 zombie PC's
If crackers could easily take over Mac OS X systems, they could make lots of money. Clearly, they can't easily own Mac OS X. There are plenty of systems to make it worth their while.
Although I agree that a Mac OS X worm would be bad publicity for Apple, and that Apple could improve the way they handle response to reported security defects, I think they have produced a reasonable track record over the past five years regarding the basic security of Mac OS X. Apple's security track record is due much more to the relatively weaker security of Windows systems than to Windows market dominance. Windows is low hanging fruit, crack-wise. If it were harder to own Windows systems, crackers would switch to Mac OS X in a flash. Crackers don't need to own 20 million systems, they really only need a few thousand at a time.
I knew I was going to get in trouble for that witty remark. I even added "OK, just kidding there.:-)" so that the knuckle draggers amongst you might feel the Whump! of the clue stick. Alas, you plainly did not read the entire remark. Sigh.
The parent is not informative, it is wrong, or at least out of date.
The Space Shuttle will be retired upon completion of the ISS. NASA will be taking steps over the coming years which would prevent almost any extension of the currently planned flight schedule, like reconfiguring launch pads to support the future vehicles, retiring shuttle craft as they complete their scheduled missions, caniballizing said vehicles for parts, and refraining from ordering parts like external tanks and solid rocket boosters which would be required to extend the schedule by even one flight.
The shuttle will cease operations regardless of the status of replacement vehicles. Although many planned technology programs intended to help replace the shuttle with a more reliable and cost effective system were cancelled over the years, NASA is currently pursuing a manned vehicle program, Orion which has not been cancelled.
You are right! I shall retire off the proceeds from referring people to the spamassassion man page!
If you can solve SPAM so easily with your customized SpamAssassin rules and your skills in proper care and feeding of the filters, then you could easily train a few disciples and charge $25,000 a week to fix the problem for each of the Fortune 500. Yes, you could get rich from your SpamAssassin rules and skills. You would do it for the first customer for free, and then there would be a line outside your door.
SPAM is a real problem which has threatened to make email unusable. If we professionals don't acknowledge that this is a real problem and figure out how to fix it, email will become such an annoyance for people that they will stop using it. I submit that in fact this is already happening. Ordinary people who don't make their living in Information Technology are already abandoning email. Why? SPAM makes email a pain in their backside.
More seriously, I'm not saying that I can solve the world's spam problem, just that a motivated person can make spam a non-issue for themselves.
Yes, that's what you are saying. Unfortunately, this isn't a relevant point. Just because you, a Ninja, can walk safely through the streets of a crime-ridden neighborhood doesn't mean that this neighborhood would be safe for your grandmother, too. Your answer is the naive (or perhaps merely innocent) equivalent of "Grandma can be safe if only she too became a ninja!"
Actually I already posted my config in reply to another comment, but more importantly you have to feed it properly.
So, can your grandmother "properly feed" her baysean filter? (Thanks for posting your configuration. I'll take a peek at it, and I'm sure others will benefit. I'm not calling you a liar, I'm simply pointing out that your solution isn't scalable. It's not like there are not lots of smart people using the same tools to fix this problem. It's still a problem. Something is obviously not working.)
Even if everyone had broadband, 18% of the population couldn't find, say, Swordfish nor any other movie file on the internet to download if you had a gun to their head as punishment for failure and oral sex on tap as a reward for success.
Please post it to a web page where everyone can benefit. Undoubtedly your configuration is more effective than those used by many people, probably including me. If I may humbly submit, however, it is not my own inbox that I have in mind when I suggest that spam is a real problem. One of my clients rejects so many messages at their gateway that they generate about 1 GB of logging messages about that activity each day. Despite several very competently designed antispam layers, including spamassassin, at least 1 GB of spam still gets through each day. They are responsible for many thousands of inboxen. Even if only 1 in 900 spam leak through, it's still a huge, huge problem. Spam accounts for the majority of email traffic on the internet. Spammers can and do generate messages which defeat baysean filters. It is a real, large, and growing problem.
If you could solve the spam problem with your SpamAssassin rules, you would be an internet hero and perhaps could become very wealthy as a result. Why are you hiding out in a slashdot forum when you can help save the world from spam?
now don't talk to me about the polar bear
don't talk to me about the ozone layer
ain't much of anything these days, even the air
they're running out of rhinos - what do I care?
let's hear it for the dolphin - let's hear it for the trees
ain't running out of nothing in my deep freeze
it's casual entertaining - we aim to please
at my party
-- Dire Straits
Yes, it does reflect badly on them. In fact, it's a huge warning sign. If this company treats prospective employees this way, imagine how crappy it will be to work there.
No, your original point does not stand, it was only ever wobbly at best. The minor differences in your stats really don't bear on the point at hand, which is that although you have managed to massage your filters to an impressive degree, the experience of others indicates that baysean filters are no longer as effective as they need to be. The approach is (a) too labor intensive, (b) error prone (valid emails get eaten) and (c) failing for many people. It's really nice that it hasn't bitten you yet, but really, I didn't think there was anybody left on the planet who didn't realize that spam is a growing problem because the spammers have learned some clever ways to get around clever filtering. You should be studied by science. There is probably some area of your brain that will light up when you think about this problem that will someday be called the Missouri Lobe.
It's nice that your baysean filters are working just fine. If you think that can't be changed in about an hour and a half, then give me your email address. I'll post it to a few web pages and you'll be back to hundreds of unfilterable emails a day. I guarantee results. What rock are you living under?
6 Months for the FCC approval doesn't look like the truth. I'm guessing its a long estimate to throw off other big phone manufactures. I expect to see the phone inside a few months.
Not very likely. If there were any chance of a shipment much earlier than June, Mr. Jobs would have said, "We're shipping in the first half of 2007," but instead he said, "June". It's likely that there will be FCC approval within a couple months of the keynote address, but the remainder of the time will be production ramp up, software development and beta testing. Apple will be plenty busy getting this just right, they won't rush it out the door in March or April. They will be able to accept orders as soon as they get FCC approval, however. That will help them prepare for the June launch, too. I will not be surprised at all if they get over a million orders the first week, which would be ten percent of their announced two-year sales goal for the product. I hope they are adding server capacity to the Apple Store. There are probably a hundred thousand people who will click "Buy" to pre-order the iPhone within an hour of the FCC approval.
That's why it was presented at MacWorld. Not because of the FCC, not because of a lack of other products, but Jobs being overwhelmed with excitement.
Steve Jobs has been working to get Apple into position to build this product since the day he orchestrated the acquistion of Apple by NeXT for a negative $400 million. People have been begging him to reinvent the phone with the Apple attention to detail at least since the birth of the iPod. He's had people working on technology infrastructure, hardware and software, required to make this happen ever since he euthanized the Newton. He's had people actively working to design and build this very device for two and a half years. He told an interviewer that he had the prototype iPhone for a while, but couldn't use it out of the house because it was a secret.
I'm pretty sure the man can keep a secret, regardless of his personal level of enthusiams for a product.
I am very interested in Leopard, but of that there was no sign. So... bleagh.
The entire iPhone keynote was a Leopard demonstration.
The iPhone was clearly running a Leopard build, as it was making keen use of the resolution independent display. The performance they were squeezing out of a tiny device like the iPhone was impressive, and very likely reveals nice optimizations in several parts of the operating system. Power management in Leopard will undoubtedly be improved as a result of the iPhone work. Hardware innovations from the iPhone will probably appear in future Macintosh systems, too. Safari and Mail were running on the iPhone, which means that the performance and stability of those applications will receive additional attention, which they have sorely needed.
The fact that the iPhone runs Mac OS X will provide many benefits to Macintosh users of the platform.
It's a lousy metaphor and it isn't helpful. We have enough metaphors for the internet already. Clearly all the good ones were already taken, and now they are scraping the bottom of the barrel, trying to find one that will be easily googlable.
I got a tube for ya, right here.
What's next? Hand-job metaphors? "The internet is really like a big Circle Jerk(s)
What part of "Mac OS X is highly portable" is so hard for people to understand? From it's original NeXT roots m68k, x86, sparc, pa-risc, and powerpc were shipping platforms at one time or another. Yes, it takes work to port to another platform (which might be ARM this time), but every time they port it they get better at it. The MacWorld 2007 keynote presentation of the iPhone sure looked like Mac OS X to me. Would you rather believe they wrote an entire embedded operating system *from scratch*? It's clear that the bogon flux has increased.
Although it might be appropriate to start lobbying Apple, it's probably too early to panic or get upset (as many seem to be doing). What Mr. Jobs actually said isn't entirely unreasonable. It seems to leave the door open for 3rd party apps, but in a less chaotic environment than you see on the PC/Mac. Seems like it might be a reasonable strategy that won't lock out 3rd party developers.
"We define everything that is on the phone," he said. "You don't want your phone to be like a PC. The last thing you want is to have loaded three apps on your phone and then you go to make a call and it doesn't work anymore. These are more like iPods than they are like computers."
The iPhone, he insisted, would not look like the rest of the wireless industry.
"These are devices that need to work, and you can't do that if you load any software on them," he said. "That doesn't mean there's not going to be software to buy that you can load on them coming from us. It doesn't mean we have to write it all, but it means it has to be more of a controlled environment."
there's no replacing a real tactile keyboard for heavy use.
Correct. And most smartphones don't have them, except as may be connected via bluetooth, and most people don't carry real keyboards around with them.
The QWERTY keyboards on the current generation of smart phones is silly when the keyboard is so tiny you are forced to type with two fingers anyway. These phones need a new keyboard layout optimized for typing with two thumbs. QWERTY ain't it. When or if it comes along, the Apple iPhone can make it a user preference. Try that with your silly buttons.
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Although I agree that a Mac OS X worm would be bad publicity for Apple, and that Apple could improve the way they handle response to reported security defects, I think they have produced a reasonable track record over the past five years regarding the basic security of Mac OS X. Apple's security track record is due much more to the relatively weaker security of Windows systems than to Windows market dominance. Windows is low hanging fruit, crack-wise. If it were harder to own Windows systems, crackers would switch to Mac OS X in a flash. Crackers don't need to own 20 million systems, they really only need a few thousand at a time.
Not to mention... how are comments moderated when mods don't read the comments?
I knew I was going to get in trouble for that witty remark. I even added "OK, just kidding there. :-)" so that the knuckle draggers amongst you might feel the Whump! of the clue stick. Alas, you plainly did not read the entire remark. Sigh.
I can't see spending all that money on an iPhone unless it has this magic lens.
:-)
OK, just kidding there.
It could simply be that she had a crush on the camera person. Pupils dialate for all manner of reason.
Apple's stated goal is 10 million iPhones by the end of 2008. That's just not not going to happen.
The parent is not informative, it is wrong, or at least out of date.
The Space Shuttle will be retired upon completion of the ISS. NASA will be taking steps over the coming years which would prevent almost any extension of the currently planned flight schedule, like reconfiguring launch pads to support the future vehicles, retiring shuttle craft as they complete their scheduled missions, caniballizing said vehicles for parts, and refraining from ordering parts like external tanks and solid rocket boosters which would be required to extend the schedule by even one flight.
The shuttle will cease operations regardless of the status of replacement vehicles. Although many planned technology programs intended to help replace the shuttle with a more reliable and cost effective system were cancelled over the years, NASA is currently pursuing a manned vehicle program, Orion which has not been cancelled.
You do not get your phone for $0.
SPAM is a real problem which has threatened to make email unusable. If we professionals don't acknowledge that this is a real problem and figure out how to fix it, email will become such an annoyance for people that they will stop using it. I submit that in fact this is already happening. Ordinary people who don't make their living in Information Technology are already abandoning email. Why? SPAM makes email a pain in their backside.
Yes, that's what you are saying. Unfortunately, this isn't a relevant point. Just because you, a Ninja, can walk safely through the streets of a crime-ridden neighborhood doesn't mean that this neighborhood would be safe for your grandmother, too. Your answer is the naive (or perhaps merely innocent) equivalent of "Grandma can be safe if only she too became a ninja!"
So, can your grandmother "properly feed" her baysean filter? (Thanks for posting your configuration. I'll take a peek at it, and I'm sure others will benefit. I'm not calling you a liar, I'm simply pointing out that your solution isn't scalable. It's not like there are not lots of smart people using the same tools to fix this problem. It's still a problem. Something is obviously not working.)
There have been quite a few articles about this problem in the past couple of months. Here's one: Spam on the rise with new breeds Researchers say spam has risen significantly in recent months -- by as much as 80 percent
Even if everyone had broadband, 18% of the population couldn't find, say, Swordfish nor any other movie file on the internet to download if you had a gun to their head as punishment for failure and oral sex on tap as a reward for success.
Please post it to a web page where everyone can benefit. Undoubtedly your configuration is more effective than those used by many people, probably including me. If I may humbly submit, however, it is not my own inbox that I have in mind when I suggest that spam is a real problem. One of my clients rejects so many messages at their gateway that they generate about 1 GB of logging messages about that activity each day. Despite several very competently designed antispam layers, including spamassassin, at least 1 GB of spam still gets through each day. They are responsible for many thousands of inboxen. Even if only 1 in 900 spam leak through, it's still a huge, huge problem. Spam accounts for the majority of email traffic on the internet. Spammers can and do generate messages which defeat baysean filters. It is a real, large, and growing problem.
If you could solve the spam problem with your SpamAssassin rules, you would be an internet hero and perhaps could become very wealthy as a result. Why are you hiding out in a slashdot forum when you can help save the world from spam?
now don't talk to me about the polar bear
don't talk to me about the ozone layer
ain't much of anything these days, even the air
they're running out of rhinos - what do I care?
let's hear it for the dolphin - let's hear it for the trees
ain't running out of nothing in my deep freeze
it's casual entertaining - we aim to please
at my party
-- Dire Straits
Yes, it does reflect badly on them. In fact, it's a huge warning sign. If this company treats prospective employees this way, imagine how crappy it will be to work there.
No, your original point does not stand, it was only ever wobbly at best. The minor differences in your stats really don't bear on the point at hand, which is that although you have managed to massage your filters to an impressive degree, the experience of others indicates that baysean filters are no longer as effective as they need to be. The approach is (a) too labor intensive, (b) error prone (valid emails get eaten) and (c) failing for many people. It's really nice that it hasn't bitten you yet, but really, I didn't think there was anybody left on the planet who didn't realize that spam is a growing problem because the spammers have learned some clever ways to get around clever filtering. You should be studied by science. There is probably some area of your brain that will light up when you think about this problem that will someday be called the Missouri Lobe.
It's nice that your baysean filters are working just fine. If you think that can't be changed in about an hour and a half, then give me your email address. I'll post it to a few web pages and you'll be back to hundreds of unfilterable emails a day. I guarantee results. What rock are you living under?
No, greylisting can be applied to RFC-compliant MTAs as well.
I'm pretty sure the man can keep a secret, regardless of his personal level of enthusiams for a product.
The iPhone was clearly running a Leopard build, as it was making keen use of the resolution independent display. The performance they were squeezing out of a tiny device like the iPhone was impressive, and very likely reveals nice optimizations in several parts of the operating system. Power management in Leopard will undoubtedly be improved as a result of the iPhone work. Hardware innovations from the iPhone will probably appear in future Macintosh systems, too. Safari and Mail were running on the iPhone, which means that the performance and stability of those applications will receive additional attention, which they have sorely needed.
The fact that the iPhone runs Mac OS X will provide many benefits to Macintosh users of the platform.
good grief, mods, show some respect for a difference of opinion.
It's a lousy metaphor and it isn't helpful. We have enough metaphors for the internet already. Clearly all the good ones were already taken, and now they are scraping the bottom of the barrel, trying to find one that will be easily googlable.
I got a tube for ya, right here.
What's next? Hand-job metaphors? "The internet is really like a big Circle Jerk(s)
What part of "Mac OS X is highly portable" is so hard for people to understand? From it's original NeXT roots m68k, x86, sparc, pa-risc, and powerpc were shipping platforms at one time or another. Yes, it takes work to port to another platform (which might be ARM this time), but every time they port it they get better at it. The MacWorld 2007 keynote presentation of the iPhone sure looked like Mac OS X to me. Would you rather believe they wrote an entire embedded operating system *from scratch*? It's clear that the bogon flux has increased.
The QWERTY keyboards on the current generation of smart phones is silly when the keyboard is so tiny you are forced to type with two fingers anyway. These phones need a new keyboard layout optimized for typing with two thumbs. QWERTY ain't it. When or if it comes along, the Apple iPhone can make it a user preference. Try that with your silly buttons.
I'll bet you a beer that even the prototype wasn't using an XScale.