"Series of Tubes" Metaphor Implemented
meisteg writes to tell us about Tubes: a beta application that uses a tube metaphor to enable users to share files over the Internet. The Windows-only app is free and the company hopes to make money on an enhanced version targeted at businesses. See this video for some details of how Tubes works. From the article: "[Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens] endured ridicule last year for his assertion that the Internet is 'a series of tubes.' But one Web startup hopes to bring that metaphor to life with a new service that makes it easy for people to share videos, songs, pictures and other big files."
writes to tell us about Tubes: a beta application that uses a tube metaphor to enable users to share files over the Internet.
Good. Because we all know that it's not a big truck.
The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
Doesn't Bittorrent do this already?
So much for advertising a new application on /. when more than half the userbase can't use it.
doesnt VPN do this already?
to code or not to code, that is the question.
Initially it will be a series of pringle tubes duct taped together and connected to users computers thru which they can share files.
Do not try to read the dupe, thats impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth
What truth?
There is no dupe
I don't care who I've invited to do what, I really don't want my friends to be able to put stuff on my PC as they feel fit. Anyone that has ever shared a printer in a University house will know the feeling - it doesn't take long until a hundred pages of "you're gay" wake you up in the middle of the night.
OK so let's hear your explaination. And NO geekspeak.
Hm, that's funny... these tubes seem to run windows .NET Framework
System Requirements: Microsoft Windows XP running Service Pack 2 + Microsoft
Oh snap! Not compatible with my Internets Tubes, such a shame.
This is not the greatest
So, where do I get the torrent? Oh wait..
This is just a marketing strategy to try and build hype for their product. Explain to me how you implement the concept of "internet as a series of tubes"?. It's not a metaphor for anything - it's a running joke of how Ted Stephens is in the pockets of lobbyists and is trying to "educate" people on the importance of abolishing net neutrality.
Damn him for not saying that the Internets is a series of hot horny women who want to share their charms with virgin geeks everywhere. What the hell do I need with tubes?
Fascism trolls keeping me up every night. When I starts a preachin', he HITS ME WITH HIS REICH!
Or is it just that the rest of the Senator's speach that was ignorant, and people just latch onto tubes as a one word reminder.
This is a commercial plain and simple.
But what about the little people running inside the tubes to deliver messages?
How long does it take to send an internet over it? Sometimes it takes days to receive them on the current implementation.
There are a zillion apps out there that accomplish the same thing. This is just one company riding a meme for publicity sakes. God how I hate marketers...
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"So much for advertising a new application on /. when more than half the userbase can't use it."
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...to send some tube steak to my (female) friends (with benefits) when I'm not there in person!
This company makes a metaphor about tubes, and suddenly it is news as if Ted Stevens' assertion might perhaps have been correct all along. But a user interface metaphor including tubes doesn't mean the internet is a series of them.
In fact, I have an application where I drop files onto a duck (Cyberduck widget for Mac OS X), with the result that they are transferred to someplace else, but still the internet is not a series of ducks (I hope).
It looks like an interesting product. The most useful feature for me would be the ability to synchronize files easily between all my devices. I do have to wonder what would happen if malicious programs were shared through a tube? Sally wants to share a file that has a virus, so it instantly updates all the computers attached to the Tube. I suppose virus scanning software would work, but that wasn't covered in the demonstration.
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All decentralized version control systems do this kind of stuff already.
Inventions have long since reached their limit, and I see no hope for further development.-- Frontinus, 1st cent. AD
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Isn't this what DropChute did like years ago?
http://www.hilgraeve.com/dropchute/pro/index.html
http://www.ifolder.com/
Many slashdotters so far have commented on the brutal marketspaek going on in this presentation, but this concept has one thing going for it that torrent networks so far haven't touched on very well... the use of a private share network that is collaborative.
I think Tubes looks like it will catch on. If sites like Facebook and Technorati implement some hooks into it, there is no telling where this could go.
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As Mac users know, The Big Truck file-sharing application has been around for years!
Someday Sen Stevens will brag about inventing the tubes, and we'll still make fun ...
It looks like a total rip off of Grouper but that's okay cuz if it works the way they say it does, it kicks Grouper's ass several times over in features and functionality. btw I hope it has a little animation of the file being put into one of those containers and the bank and sucked up a tube cuz that's totally cool :-)
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The slides showed Tubes sending Word files, spreadsheets, and other data through the tubes. But Senator Ted Stevens clearly described the capability to send entire Internets through the Tubes. If this can't send Internets, it is clearly not a complete Tube implementation.
A metaphor that enables users to share files! I always thought we needed similes for that. How foolish of me.
Wouldn't it be pretty easy to, say, program some sort of virus/worm that uses tubes to replicate itself and then decimate a whole network of tube-linked computers? I feel that I might wait a while before jumping into these tubes feet first, lest an alligator be at the other end.
Hey, guys. Big gulps, huh? Cool. All right! Well, see ya later.
...and i can confirm his access to female friends with benefits.
Normally, he calls me up, we work out a schedule and I drive over to provide benefits for his lady friends. Honestly though, the commute is a real killer.
Having a series of tubes would make everything vastly more convenient.
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//Or ridden a Segway
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I am the marketer at TubesNow.com and my name is Steve. And no, we didn't name it Tubes because of the Senator from Alaska although we do get a chuckle out of it here in Boston. We named it Tubes because of the metaphor we borrowed: the pneumatic tube used at many bank drive ins to transfer documents & cash. You know that cool thing at the bank the teller uses to send you money with a whoosh? Tubes is the digital version of that - letting you share with many people at once. Just like that bank tube, Tubes is secure, bi-directional, personal (you see and wave at the teller behind glass while she counts out your money), private, nearly instantaneous and fun. I remember getting lollipops in the tube when my Dad would drive to the bank (way before ATMs) and I practically begged him to use the bank tube because I was trying to figure out how it worked. We could have called it Star Trek (but we didn't, that would really be bad marketing) since some people think of it as part Replicator and part Transporter. We think it is cool and I hope you try it. It is beta software and we're hoping the slashdot crowd helps us make it better.
And to the other person worried about getting his computer filled with stuff that other people send you, be aware that we implemented a feature called "On Demand" that lets you see what people are sending you before you accept. Or you can accept it all, delete your local copy, and request a local copy any time you want, on any computer.
Hope that helps. If you have any other questions, feel free to post them on our forum!
So, the Linux equivalent to tubes would be, what?... pipes?
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It also seems a lot like a program WASTE we used to use here at my job to download music from each other without being detected running a P2P network. It was basically described as a "series or hidden TUNNELS in the network". It was interesting because you had to have approval to join the network, and only people who had your private key could connect directly to you, so the network was usually limited to a few trusted people.
...at least, that's what I'm guessing from the "hipcool" language used in their fora (a/k/a "forums"). Nearly every topic is seeded by an "rlunetta" who writes as though she were a 13-yo MySpaceFlickrFrapprButchrBakrCandlestickMakr type. Either Adesso has hired a prepubescent to serve as their public face or they're slickly targeting this at the demographic that has conflated a computer with a keyboard-loaded tellybision.
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... immediately.
-Tenacious D, "City Hall"
"I don't care who I've invited to do what, I really don't want my friends to be able to put stuff on my PC as they feel fit."
Then you're going to hate Tor.
Here is why he gets mocked:
...
"There's one company now you can sign up and you can get a movie delivered to your house daily by delivery service. Okay. And currently it comes to your house, it gets put in the mail box when you get home and you change your order but you pay for that, right.
"But this service is now going to go through the internet* and what you do is you just go to a place on the internet and you order your movie and guess what you can order ten of them delivered to you and the delivery charge is free.
"Ten of them streaming across that internet and what happens to your own personal internet?
"I just the other day got, an internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday and I just got it yesterday. Why?
"Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the internet commercially.
"They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the internet. And again, the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck.
" It's a series of tubes.
"And if you don't understand those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and its going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.
"Now we have a separate Department of Defense internet now, did you know that?
"Do you know why?
"Because they have to have theirs delivered immediately. They can't afford getting delayed by other people."
This quote (more fully found here; there is also a link to the audio recording on that page) doesn't actually get at what the Senator was talking about--how corporations clog the "tubes," causing them to be unavailable to the average consumer for sending "internets," and therefore telephone companies should be allowed to charge fees to content providers to discourage clogging the "tubes."
Here is a tracking of the Senator's delayed "internet."
Also see, of course, the relevant Wikipedia entry.
[and this is why we should probably hand decisionmaking authority with regard to this type of regulation to an expert body, rather than leaving it to congresspeople who don't even know the proper use of the word "email."]
They sure made fun songs to listen to. "White Punks on Dope", "Talk to you later" and "She's a beauty". What's not to like about a band that would go on stage in suits & ties and have a lead singer named Fee Waybill?? :)
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I took a gander at the site and thought it would be interesting to play around with.
d/l and install. Watch a couple of the demo vids to see how it works.
Try to create a Tube - the vid and docs say type in a name and press create...
no go..
The advanced window appears asking me to 'Select an account' and this is required.
However this is a drop down box with no accounts pre-loaded and no apparent way to create them..
Can't even click the ellipsis button to select another folder to share
Pity cause it appears to be a good concept
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It's a lousy metaphor and it isn't helpful. We have enough metaphors for the internet already. Clearly all the good ones were already taken, and now they are scraping the bottom of the barrel, trying to find one that will be easily googlable.
I got a tube for ya, right here.
What's next? Hand-job metaphors? "The internet is really like a big Circle Jerk(s)
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Aren't I kinda, sorta, doing the same thing with Filezilla and a vpn? It's seems more private, and I feel a bit more secure actually connecting directly to the other end instead of another middleman that will just roll over for "National Security Letters" and the sort. I don't find this thing to be really new and impressive. After seeing the site, it looks like just another gimmick for pre-teens who only be giving up all their info for the marketers.
FTS: "The only files that other will see are the files that you have chosen to share within a tube within the group of users you have invited. At no time do others actually read files from your system directly."
Uh huh, until the Pentagon wants to see. I suppose as long as you assume that you will have no privacy with this thing, then there sould be no problem.
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It's not made for people who understand what "decentralized version control systems" are. :)
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We, of course, made plenty of "tubes" jokes, but the funniest had to be when one of the balls accidentally popped off the conveyor belt, and the message was dropped as it entered the receiving terminal as being badly formed. Great, because their model showed what happens when you literally drop a packet. *grin*
I mean, it's a good metaphor. Regardless of the medium (electrical or optical) the internet really kind of IS a series of tubes of varying capacity, interconnecting a bunch of nodes.
Sounds a lot like Novell's iFolder which is a really neat application. Sync files from a central store to multiple computers using a thin client, or access then via a web browser. You can have any number of folders and control who can access what in each folder. Well except iFolder will run on all platforms (mono), not just Windows. And it's free.
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Needs a little work. Here's a tip. Expand your metaphor pool and your examples will not sound so stilted. Now try to overlay P2P or VOIP onto your "road" example, and you'll see why picking a good base metaphor is so important.
We can't be so smug - Email is the name of a decades old company that makes household electronics - the proper use is supposed to be "e-mail" even though few bother to use it. What is supposed to happen is elected officials get advised by experts instead of a baracading themselves in with a few personal freinds and the guys that pay the biggest bribes.
Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens and the rest of the Senate are a series of giant assholes.
I think Tubes looks like it will catch on. If sites like Facebook and Technorati implement some hooks into it, there is no telling where this could go.
I'm already worrying about how I'll need to block its data traffic.
This is exactly what kids will love. Kids love to share parts of their life with their friends. They share photos. They share messages. They share stories. Poems. Videos. Every kid socially needs to define themself, and the internet has become a great way to do it.
Why has myspace (& its clones, which I'll just wrap together in the name "myspace") become so popular? Kids love to share who they are online. After watching the presentation, this tool lets them do that more than ever. They can define tubes that connect them with their friends, their cliques, their relatives...whole social circles can now be defined in this program. Myspace only organizes "friends," but it doesn't organize "networks of friends" like Tubes appears to do.
While I don't think this app will replace myspace, I can see it being a part of the page...almost like subscribing to an RSS feed. Why bother posting links to hundreds of files on a website (personal, commercial, or otherwise), when you can just "tube" that page? (I'm not trying to be the first to verbify the name of the program, i.e. "google", but if Tubes catches on...I can say I was the first to lay claim to its usage!) You could pull up a sidebar in your web window, select that tube, and automatically have access to all the data they share.
There is one drawback, however...everything gets downloaded to your hard drive. And with up to 2GB of storage per tube...well, let's just say that 300GB hard drives might just not hold the needs of your typical social 14-year-old teenage girl anymore.
No, the Internet is NOT like a superhighway
"Think of the Internet as a highway."
There it is again. Some clueless fool talking about the "Information Superhighway." They don't know didley about the net. It's nothing like a superhighway. That's a rotten metaphor.
Suppose the metaphor ran in the other direction. Suppose the highways were like the net. . .
A highway hundreds of lanes wide. Most with pitfalls for potholes. Privately operated bridges and overpasses. No highway patrol. A couple of rent-a-cops on bicycles with broken whistles. 500 member vigilante posses with nuclear weapons. A minimum of 237 on ramps at every intersection. No signs. Wanna get to Ensenada? Holler out the window at a passing truck to ask directions. Ad hoc traffic laws. Some lanes would vote to make use by a single-occupant-vehicle a capital offense on Monday through Friday between 7:00 and 9:00. Other lanes would just shoot you without a trial for talking on a car phone.
AOL would be a giant diesel-smoking bus with hundreds of ebola victims on board throwing dead wombats and rotten cabbage at the other cars, most of which have been assembled at home from kits. Some are built around 2.5 horsepower lawnmower engines with a top speed of nine miles an hour. Others burn nitrogylcerin and idle at 120.
No license plates. World War II bomber nose art instead. Terrifying paintings of huge teeth or vampire eagles. Bumper mounted machine guns. Flip somebody the finger on this highway and get a white phosphorus grenade up your tailpipe. Flatbed trucks cruise around with anti-aircraft missile batteries to shoot down the traffic helicopter. Little kids on tricycles with squirtguns filled with hydrochloric acid switch lanes without warning.
NO OFFRAMPS. None.
Now that's the way to run an Interstate Highway system.
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A private files sharing app that I set up for my folks in NY that have Windows boxes. My parents love it for photo and video sharing with the in-laws. http://www.enjoymymedia.com/
....but that stop your "friends" from sending you those important "files"....or trying to get some for themselves.
well, have you thought about a babys hand holding an apple metaphor?
"Many slashdotters so far have commented on the brutal marketspaek going on in this presentation, but this concept has one thing going for it that torrent networks so far haven't touched on very well... the use of a private share network that is collaborative."
;-)
Note those two phrases. You'll be seeing more of them in the future.
BTW Yay to the two digit GUID.
We all know that porn and spam block tubes, causing the internets to be congested and slow down.
Will this new service allow for online gambling to "flush out the tubes", since poker chips are round?
-David
While on one level an analogy like tubes might make a certain kind of sense, for me at least it immediately brings to mind some kind of silly Rube Goldberg contraption with emails being put into bank teller container things and shot off across the internet in a burst of air. Plus he didn't say the internet works LIKE a series a tubes, he said IT IS a series of tubes. And thats just.... funny.
-Lod
The problem is that while an abstraction can be a great way to explain a technical concept to someone non-technical, it isn't a complete understanding of the concept, and when non-technical people try to make decisions based on that metaphor they are often wrong.
The internet is, in some ways, like, a series of tubes, but it is not actually a series of tubes, and when you make decisions about the internet as if it were a series of tubes instead of what it actually is, most of the time you'll get it wrong. Most of our elected officials don't have a technical background so we have a bunch of people trying to make decisions based, at best, on abstractions, or on the advice of experts(who are usually bought and paid for by someone).
Probably the best solution to all of this is to start funding independent pools of experts on technical and scientific fields and then taking their advice, but those sorts of people don't tend to tell the politicians what they're being paid to want to hear, so that'll never happen.
...they have the Tube. And it pretty much satisfies both arguments.
... my ferrets have had internets for years! They love 'em! I even got them a router, that connects one of the 25' innernets to two of the 12' internets. The other three 25' innernets are simple PPP, however, and the routes are a tangled mess. I'm hoping to upgrade to a six port router in a few weeks, because as hard as the weasels try, the internets are DEFINITELY half duplex. They're not Cat5, either... he can stuff his head in, but that's all that'll fit without fragmentation.
The thing that sucks the most is when one of the internets get a hole chewed into it. The damned packets end up misrouted, on the floor, and you have to twist the innernet so that the hole is facing up to make it stop. Having a kitten who repeatedly cannonballs the array doesn't help much, either, because he uses the holes in the web to intercept the traffic.
In Ferret Internets, PACKETS SNIFF YOU!
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The Internet is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad.
Are your circuits registering correctly? Your root name servers are green!
The Russians have won. They have made the world a cesspool of distrust, greed, fear and hate.
No one really expects him to read white papers do they?
Of course, there are plans afoot to actually transmit data over fluid-filled hoses, cardboard tubes, and whatever else can be cooked up by then. See my sig for the details.
Actually, it looks pretty cool and useful. Only problem - it won't install (click Run, whirl whirl hourglass, nothin); virus shield off, try again, rinse repeat. Nothin. Guess I won't be squirtin' anyone through my huge tube.
Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people!
Remind me what's new here - We've been seeing this in Grouper (http://www.grouper.com), iMeem (http://www.imeem.com) and Krawler (http://www.krawlerx.com - shameless plug, it uses RSS and bit-torrent for file transfers as well). Same old Media sharing. Same old Social Networking. Same old File Transfer.
Two things -
(1) That p2p Networks are fringe activities, and 99% of the web users will use youtube.com to share videos is a fact these p2p networks have to realise.
(2) There can not be a viable business model for p2p based file-sharing networks which doesn't rely on some sort of Adware or (minor) spyware. Since the volumes can never justify the ad-spend by advertisers, the advertisers will increasingly push for personal information of the users - which, considering the technologies involved, is not very hard to get from the back door.
I salute the PR team of this company on having managed to get their crap of a product on slashdot.
I don't care much for Sen. Stevens' politics, and less for his party, but... The phrase "Bridge to Nowhere" was repeated so many times that people accepted it at face value. But the problem is, the bridge in question was to connect a town to an airport. Granted, it's a small town, and, a small general aviation airport. But, how reasonable is it for someone to sit in a restaurant eating a Pacific Salmon that was flown in that morning from a fishing village, and call that place "nowhere", especially when what they really mean is that the people affected are "nobody." It's not right to do that. Smaller towns and even just small neighborhoods have had bigger construction projects, and people don't go on for years about how *those* places are "nowhwere" or try to make arguments about how the people who live there are somehow not deserving of roads or bridges. But otherwise reasonable people did this against Alaska, just because they wanted to follow a trend of criticizing Sen. Stevens.
As for the internet being "tubes", if he'd said "pipes" it would have gone over much better. Even network engineers who know better call it "pipes." Since I'm strictly application layer, I'm satisfied with "streams."
Geez, if I was a senator after being an IT geek for a few decades, would you guys make fun of me for talking about how we need a "fat pipe" for the capitol offices?
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I thought the Internet was a flock of birds, with or without quality of service enhancements.
Knowledge is how to play a game, intelligence is how to win, wisdom is knowing what game to play.
I don't see anything that would prohibit someone from creating a ring of accounts with a huge file going round and round that brings the server down to it's knees. Let's assume they use file signatures to prohibit this. Since the files end up on a windows directory, what's to stop a script kiddie in scripting something that would add a character to the end of the file and change the name and send it on to the ring. How would they protect against that?
... large intestine, small intestine analogy ?
That one gets me every time
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From the presentation:
... and Tubes will setup a shared network between all the users in YouTube ... you now will have a pipeline for all content in YouTube ..."
:(
"Setup YouTube, drop any of the digital content you own in YouTube
I *know* he says "your tube" every single time, but this is how it comes out of his mouth.. marketing hurts my brain
But what was a much bigger cause for ridicule (at least to me) was the rest of the speech which showed he didn't have the slightest clue how the internet works,
"I just the other day got... an Internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday, I got it yesterday. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the Internet commercially"
I know people can occationally jumble terms but even my parents wouldn't confuse the terms "Internet" and "email". Not to mention the lateness of the email would of had nothing to do with time it took to travel over the internet (unless the email was several gigs large!).
The reason he got so much flack was because he headed the committee that controlled the Internet and knew less about the Internet than the average clueless person. The reason so much was made of tubes is because that's how the media works, "tubes" was the easiest way to refer to the incident, and even if it wasn't the most ridiculous part it's easy to make sound ridiculous in a sound byte.
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As I don't know how it precisely works I'd be reluctant to put it on my machines, however useful it looks (usability is a big key in getting an app accepted). Worse, it's only for one narrow OS (WinXP SP2), and it install .Net code. Not very good credentials for security, so I think I'll give this one a miss..
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Free? Free as in what? Not that I care, I won't run Windows.
I once had the idea to do just this - using the tube/pipe metaphor to help non-tech users to share files. Wanted to do it more screen-visual, though: two computers next to each other would have NES Mario kind of green tubes to drag and drop files through that would just pop up on the other side. Including sound effects ;-) I dumped the project because tar -czv files... | netcat -v target port and netcat -lv port | tar -xzv is cooler by order of magnitude.
Interesting, this is like Hamachi on crack.
This is marketing genius.
All you do is tell Windows customers they need to have their pc on a network edge. Then, magically, anyone can share their data immediately.
Hell, you don't need extra software for that! You need a tonne of software to STOP Windows doing that!
But still an abomination of privacy. Because it requires an account somewhere, there is always the possibility of some network geek being able to monitor and snoop on your shit, or worse, hand over the console to some government agency closely linked to the mafiaa..
The internet is a path between two or many points for sharing (email, pictures, video, movies, radio ...) data/information.
....
... railroads. We all know where our local airport, train station, garage, home/cell phone ... is located and that everything is connected some by concrete/asphalt, others steel rails, and still others by air (planes fly from city to city).
... provides the internet path for data to get from you at home or work to anyone/anyplace in the world. The connection to an internet path/access (phone, cable, airwaves/wireless ...) is sort of like traveling from LA to DC or NYC to NOLA on roads in a car, but then hopping on a ship or plane to London, then a train to Paris, ....
... it is just internet technology the virtual asphalt and rails that gets us (our data at least) too there from here.
The internet path carries the shared info that is packaged or contained in wrappers called circuits, packets, cells, channels
The internet network is sort of like airlines, telephones, highways/roads
The internet allows you to send (or even virtually travel) by sharing a request for data with many, few, or one person/server and then receiving data from the person/server which has the requested information available.
Telecommunications technology, just like paths, roads, rails, trails, and planes, cars, trains, phones
It ain't magic
Unaccountable leaders are masters, and unrepresented people are slaves. How do US and EU fare?
Maybe they deserve a copyright for the software application on obvious communications network concepts, but it ain't patentable (I hope).
Unaccountable leaders are masters, and unrepresented people are slaves. How do US and EU fare?
This is the age old problem of explaining colour to a man born blind. Of course, he'd listen to you. Worse is the arrogant seeing man who demands you don't use the words radiation or wavelength.
The three colours we perceive arise from how our brain interprets the information from three different sets of light-sensitive cone cells in the retina that respond to different ranges of electromagnetic radiation.
In the dark ages, few people knew *anything*, and it was fucking magic. If you understand something , you are its master. If you use something without understanding, you are a slave to it.
They are working for the senator, all of the tubes pass directly in front of his desk for viewing of the contents. Then he logs where its going to and who to contact, the RIAA or the MPAA.
But whatever the object, you must keep him praying to it. To the thing he has made, not to the person that has made him.
To better put it in layman's terms the Internet is like a phone network. When you want to reach someone, you dial their number, if you do not know the number use the yellowpages or 411 (in Canada Ontario at least,) they will probably give you the contact information. When you call someone, you have to identify yourself and the other side identifies itself or tells you that whoever you are looking for is unreachable (so there is a protocol handshake.) The only difference is that with the Internet it is possible to send data both ways at the same time, while on the phone you have to wait before the other party finishes talking before you say something, otherwise nobody will understand anything.
You can't handle the truth.
Having tried and given up on half a dozen other so-called private file-sharing applications for various reasons, I thought this one might show promise where the others have failed, except for a couple of major (but fixable) issues.
1) It stores copies of your shared files on your C drive (even ones that you are sharing from your local system), and even though they have a spot in the UI to set where those get stored, it wouldn't let me change it from the default. I don't have space on my C drive to have copies there of all the files I want to share with friends.
2) I lost my password today. Yeah, I used a password generator program, and forgot to make my own copy of the password. Stipd me. But I managed to find a "lost password" link in the forum on their web site, put in my email address, and it told me that it had reset my password, and I'd get an email shortly. That was 5 hours ago, still no email, and I can't use the application because my old password (which it had stored) is no longer valid.
You can see this metaphor explored in the movie Brazil, made in 1985....
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088846/
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How is this different from Peer to Peer file sharing like old school Napster or Kazaa? Is it simply that the only "peers" you would share with would be people you actually know?
.0001 seconds, won't the popularity of "The Tubes" be sharing music, movies, and television that is otherwise copyrighted, leading to an eventual shutting down of the network?
Other than pornography, which clearly will infiltrate this sharing system in